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#95 this week is "50 Big Ones" !

- not seeing that many 55 yr old bands up there...

It's really starting to look like Love and Mercy is having a great effect. 

I was beginning to think that The Beach Boys's music was going to become kind of an afterthought to a generation.  Hopefully, the folks who are buying Sounds of Summer and 50 Big Ones and compelled to dig deeper into the catalog like I was a few years back. 

yes, KDS, that is exactly how it happens, no matter what an individual may claim.

Sounds of Summer re-entered the Billboard chart as a result of a stellar 8 date tour
across the pond earlier this summer.

- cheers

I was pretty content with my copies of Sounds of Summer and the companion Warmth of the Sun, along with a copy of Pet Sounds. 

It was seeing the C50 show in 2012 that got me to start getting the rest of the catalog. 

i also had BB records, but it was just a group amongst many which i liked.

- then i saw them live...

That's pretty much what happened to me.   

I was a casual fan, who would spin the greatest hits in the summertime, but that's about it. 

After seeing them in 2012, that all changed. 

It's nice to see this circular thing occur with Beach Boys music. I believe that the movie, the two bands touring and the fact that they draw from across generations keeps the music alive. It's like rediscovering something happy and simple from earlier in life.

I believe its worth buying '50 Big Ones' JUST for the mix of Darlin'  (and the single mix of 'Isn't It Time')

By the way its at No 82 on the chart

Hi Rob, except that this Darlin' mix has the missing "Arlin'" that was later corrected on Made In California.

and #82 is "Here's To The Good Times".

- 95 is still "Fifty Big Ones"

That's incredible. It proves that the music of the BBs really is timeless...

Great to see. The thread title led me to believe that half of the top 100 this week was made up of Beach Boys songs  :o

That would've been cool.  I'd rather listen to Summer in Paradise on loop over most of what's on the current hit singles chart. 

half of the top of the pops !  (sigh)

- Beatlemania all over again

Very much doubt that Joe Q. Public even knew of the UK tour, much less how well received it was. Coincidentally, the movie hit the screens shortly before said album returned to the charts.

perhaps.
UK+ 8 dates began May 27.
"Sounds Of Summer" re-entered June 4.
movie released June 5.

- prolly both gave SOS a push

Yep, I have just looked again - So it's No 95 on The Billboard Top 200 AND No 82 on The Top Album Sales , call me a stupid Brit ( or whatever ) but please explain what the bloody difference is between the different charts  :-\

So, you're saying a tour in a country some 3500 miles away was the reason for an album returning to the lower reaches of the Billboard 200 ?

Seriously ?  ;D

200 is total sales, including downloads: album sales is purely physical sales. Simples !

as you have just observed, there are many ways that sales are tabulated, Andrew.

- so, yup

AHHHHH, Cheers AGD - Thought it might have something to do with purchasing modern formats of a product  :lol

Doesn't a BBs' comp break into the Top 100 nearly every Summer?

Not to sh*t in anybody's Corn Flakes, but there are quite a few old albums in the Billboard Top 200 now, some 20 years or older. Nature of the game right now.  I wish there was raw data on how many each album sold to get to that position, though....curious, as the new Fear 2 Stop album debuts in 2 weeks *cheap plug*

Rob, I feel I need to apologise. My post was on topic, contained useful, accurate information and wasn't a mindless diatribe aimed at any given group member. Really, what kind of fan am I ?  :o

Bellagio 10452 is your friend, young Cameron.

I love it AGD, I say I Love It - Your answer encapsulated information to the highest echelon of utter fandom  :lol

Now to download sh*t loads of copies from Amazon.com to get it higher up the Chart ( NOT )

I'd noticed around the time Love And Mercy came out my local used CD store had plenty of Brian Wilson solo albums. I went there yesterday to pick up his Pet Sounds live album and every single one of his CDs had been sold! Now I wish I'd picked that one up earlier!!

I just completed my Brian Wilson CD collection with Pet Sounds live.  I got the Japanese version with Meant for You and Friends as bonus tracks off Discogs. 

Interesting that 50 Big Ones comes out of nowhere to appear on the top 200.  I wonder if they are also including Greatest Hits (with the same cover) in these sales?  It has been hovering in the top 30 for iTunes.  50 Big Ones however is ranked ~1,400 on Amazon. 

Mea culpa, old pal. Let's say the Top 200 then.

I'd be more impressed if NPP was back in the top 100.

For what it's worth, NPP was hovering all over the Amazon top 100 for the last couple months, but I don't believe it ever made it back into the Billboard 100.

Timeless music, it will always sell.

forever

To get more specific, in addition to physical sales and digital album downloads, these days the Billboard 200 ranking now includes digital album track downloads as well as on-demand audio subscription streaming. With digital track downloads, 10 album tracks equals one album sale, and 1500 song streams from an album is equivalent to one album sale.

On to NPP, how many weeks was it on the BB 200, and how high did it chart?

good question

Amongst other odd nooks, crannies and the like, Bellagio 10452 contains a week by week listing of the chart position of every BB release - group and solo - that bothered the US and UK chart compilers to date.

Excellent clarification. You must be ashamed of yourself.  :)

There was no Billboard chart for 6/4/15. SOS re-entered the Top 200 at #181 on the chart for the week of 6/13/15.

And the single mix of "Isn't It Time" is ALSO available on aforementioned MIC box set! Along with lots of other goodies! (hint, hint)

Shame about the sessionography (hint, hint...)  ::)

"There was no Billboard chart for 6/4/15. SOS re-entered the Top 200 at #181 on the chart for the week of 6/13/15."

there was no Billboard chart for 6/13/15.  Billboard publishes 7AM eastern standard time on Thursday.  each Thursday. no other day.

as an example, the current "Aug 1" chart was published yesterday, July 23, at 7AM.

the chart which you quote, 6/13/15, was published June 4-15, prior to the movie's release.


- cheers
   

According to the Billboard website, there is indeed a chart for the week 6/13/15.  ;D

Further, the sales figures for any given chart are tracked the week ending the Thursday prior to the Tuesday the chart is actually published. Ergo a chart published 6/2/15 reflects sales of week ending 5/28/15.

again, as an example, the current "Aug 1" chart was published yesterday, July 23, at 7AM.

the chart which you quote, 6/13/15, was published June 4-15, prior to the movie's release.

the chart for the week 6/13/15 (and all Billboard 200 charts) are compiled AND published
9  days prior to the date appearing on the chart header.

- a puzzle for sure, but there it is !

Woah, I'd totally forgotten about Bellagio 10452's chart listings.  I do recall NPP had debuted at #28, but a bummer to see that it lasted only one more week on the Billboard 200 album chart, at #128.

For what it's worth, NPP would have debuted at #16 under the old format.  Not sure after that. 

So even with the movie tie-in, the young guest artists, various tv performances, they could not sell many copies of this album. The suits should just leave Brian alone, and let him make the kind of album he wants to make - a rock 'n' roll album. There's no gimmick that's gonna have Brian Wilson Goin' Platinum at this stage.

... except maybe A ROCK AND ROLL ALBUM!

But how well was it really promoted.  It seemed a no-brainer to release GYHTBT as a single and try to get Kacey to do some guest appearances on that (schedules permitting).  What singles were actually released?  What was played on the radio?  Seems a shame as there was a lot of great stuff on it.

Guess You Had To Be There was my choice for a single from the get-go, to me it was the most market-friendly song with the best crossover potential especially to crack the contemporary country market and even the modern hits/mix market that plays Sugar Ray next to Pink/Nate Reuss next to Kelly Clarkson. It's the one I enjoy listening to the most, that classic Brian shuffle and a catchy as hell infectious sound. Maybe there's still time to spin it off. It is a no-brainer as far as a single, IMO.

For the UK, the Official Charts Company now has BB info with full chart runs for singles and albums:

Beach Boys

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/27515/beach%20boys/

Brian Wilson:

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/18638/brian-wilson/

Brian Wilson and Various Artists

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/45404/brian-wilson-and-various-artists/

... or you could have looked on 10452, where the UK chart placings have been since March 2010 - and they include the UK EP positions as well !

But, like any wise researcher, I shall double check. ;D

Thanks. I note one discrepancy with Catalogue number: Getcha Back is listed by the OCC as MIUCT0749

  :lol

The single mix is slightly faster on MIC than on 50 Big Ones.