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In two hours.

Any reports?

His segment hasn't come on. Looks like they are saving him for last.

"when we got married, I won"

According to Brian, Mike and the band didn't like Pet Sounds. Who always had Brian's back? Dennis and Carl?

Brian has 5 controls covering 50 years; in decades (of course, w/ some overlap):

50's Murry
60's Mike
70's Marilyn
80's Mlandy
90's Melinda

BW is his own guy and always will be....

Very nice, thank you for the link

you are correct, sir.  And that is what makes his need so confounding !
Brian has enjoyed and needed a vast array of collaborators from the get go, too numerous to enumerate.
Brian has also required the 5 controllers for over 55 years.

- yet he Shines through it all

Just saw the segment...

Highlights the roadblocks of a person trying to extricate a patient from a charlatan doctor who has court-ordered authority.  
Landy exceeded that authority.

The AG couldn't intervene (or maybe didn't want to do an investigation) without family involvement.

Balanced explanation from Melinda, saying the "band" was probably at the "end of their rope." In those decades the resources were fewer and farther between.

The court appeared to appoint Landy in "good faith."

This movie, is not about The Beach Boys. It is a universal story from which we can all learn.  If Brian was "Joe the plumber" under the legal and physical control of a bad doctor, the same steps would need replication.  It took the manipulation of a professional caregiver "unduly influencing" a patient (whether Brian or Joe the plumber) to become a primary beneficiary of the will.  Landy expanded his scope beyond the medical (and I use that loosely) insinuating himself in Brian's music business.  

And can't wait, I don't agree with your theoretical "decades" of control. It disrespects Brian, who may be verbally quiet (somtimes!) but who misses nothing, onstage, so please don't confuse "quiet" with "passivity."

See The Wrecking Crew movie or listen to the very entertaining "Hawthorne" sessions...Brian is in charge, all right.  ;)

it is a puzzle for sure

Do you have any proof that he is being controlled, or that he 'requires' control right now, or are you just trolling?

Can you please elaborate on how Brian was/is controlled in these instances?

I'd bet Marilyn would disagree that she had control of Brian. I'm guessing there'd have been a lot less drugs after the kids were born..

Kenny Rogers sang the line "you got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em".

The "controllers" thing...fold 'em. It's a losing hand.

Yes, can we get back to the Morning News?  I slept in this morning and missed it.  I'd like to know more about what was discussed.

Here's the piece in written form: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-wilsons-summer-of-milestones/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-wilsons-summer-of-milestones/)

I thought it was a very sweet segment.

Cool!  Thanks for the link!  There's also video of the program on there. 

I think this is the most relaxed I've ever seen Brian in an interview.

YouTube links...

Full Broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svcgGFmRNFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svcgGFmRNFg)

Just the Brian segment with no lead-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2hrYXPHxA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2hrYXPHxA)

Many thanks… very enjoyable. Melinda's a star.

Absolutely, she seems like a wonderful, loving person. I feel very fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet her. Very warm and genuine.

I agree with Brian, good interview.

My thanks also.     Very nice piece,  left me feeling good,  like closure?

I'm tired of hearing that the Beach Boys didn't like Pet Sounds. Maybe one or two of the guys didn't love the music when it was being made, but those opinions did not reflect those of the entire group.

I don't think Brian comes out with that maliciously… I think he gives interviewers what he thinks they want. He does it to please. My theory, is all…

Hate to say it, but....Melinda hasn't looked well the last few years, and in the interview she sounded...terrible. I dunno, maybe she had an off day or something...just hope nothing's wrong...

Classic Brian ending: "Good interview."

But it was!

I noticed that too (particularly when they were on The View), but I think it might just be her voice. It's a little shakier than it used to be, which sometimes comes with age. I don't know that I've seen her interviewed since BWPS, and that was 10 years ago. it's probably not fair for us to speculate and certainly none of our business, but I, too, hope all is well.

Melinda remarks near the end "people say he's passive (Brian), but he's not he's strong"

at the moment she says 'passive' Brian sitting next to her closes his eyes

...which just goes to show that despite the naysayers who insist that Brian keeps doing all this stuff against his will...what Melinda said and past experience has proven that if Brian truly doesn't want to do something, he will not.

Exactly.

And for those saying that Melinda sounded shaky, well, to me she sounded emotional. That period obviously brings up painful memories for the both of them.

In every interview she's been a part of recently, her voice has been extremely shaky for some reason. I doubt it's nerves but it's very noticeable.

As for it being none of our business...I totally agree, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't care. (It really wasn't any of our business that Carl had cancer, either, but we sure as hell cared.)

I think she looks normal for a woman her age.

As for her voice shaking, I think she was just getting choked up.  It's obviously a very emotional subject.

She seems pretty comparable to other people her age. That said, it's almost unthinkable that in the not-too-distant future, one or the other of them could become legitimately infirm. Brian would need to rely on others to care for an ailing Melinda, and who would then care for him is a question I'd rather not consider.

well as long as she's healthy that's all that matters,,,

I think we should lay off of Melinda and any of the other spouses. Melinda seems like a normal involved and concerned wife of her age.

I just said we should off, and then I didn't, so I'll start now.

Right on.

And I completely agree with Cam.

It's still wrong. When did Carl or Dennis do anything about support him?

Don't know about Dennis, but Carl wasn't that supportive of him in 1995, or otherwise we'd have had the Wilson/Paley stuff out, or the original planned Pet Sounds tour in the 90s.

I didn't say whether I thought if was wrong or right but I don't presume to tell Brian Wilson what to think or say.

hello guitarfool2002, you are correct sir, about the controller discussion being a losing hand.
but that is not what it is about, albeit the word controller was used.
and hello Billyman and rab2951 and marcusb, it also is not about being controlled,
or was/is controlled, or had control of him.

but the point is, it is something which Brian requires/wants/needs.  There is no nefarious inference,
although a person in control COULD do harm.

rather, the need that Brian has for a controller is urgent and ever present.  Brian stated the fact plainly
in his favourite album when he sang "I need God as my guide".

God would be his top guide, or controller, with the mortal ones amongst that "5M" list earlier.
it does not belittle Brian, but rather shows how great he is that he can recognize what he needs,
state it, and get it !

I sincerely hope that this is not "trolling", Billyman.  is it?

can't wait, I think you have to realize that the issue of Brian's "controllers" has been a very heated topic around here. There have been those who claimed that Brian is little more than a burned out idiot who is just the puppet of those behind him. The words "controller" "handlers" "wifeandmanagers" and "Me-Landy" will stir up a strong reaction with those of us who don't agree with that assessment. The word "controlled" is a hot potato, and I think in your case, just a poor choice of terms.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that Brian has always needed an outside force to push him a bit. That maybe Brian's not as much of a self starter. In the early days Murry provided the push, followed by a string of others including Mike, Landy and Melinda.  I think there's some truth to that point. In fact, I would suggest that his obsession with besting The Beatles and Phil Spector also served that purpose.  But, ultimately, I think Brian winds up doing what Brian wants to do. He's not "controlled" as much as motivated from the outside.

Depends. Do you honestly not know what it means to say someone is a 'controller'?  Do you really not know why people are getting upset that you are comparing Melinda to a evil motherfucker like Landy, who was basically slowly killing Brian in order to be the beneficiary of Brian's will after his death?!

I sincerely hope you are just choosing the wrong words, and actually just mean what Cyncie above me suggested, that you are inferring the Brian needs someone to motivate him from time to time.  However, the fact that you put a 'M' in front of Landy (basically saying Melinda and Landy are one and the same) leads me to believe that isn't the case. If you are indeed accusing Melinda of being exactly like Landy, well...best I can suggest to you is to make sure you have irrefutable proof. Otherwise, it can count as libel, and lawsuits  have been won with shakier ground than this. All it would take is one phone call. I suggest you tread lightly.

If Brian was being controlled, he would be a lot thinner.

Yup.

thanks Cyncie, Billyman, and Wirestone; you are very generous to offer a defence of
a poor choice of terms and choosing the wrong words.  You are correct.  And Cyncie,
your explanation of needing an outside force is the best explanation of this phenomena.
In fact, the way you put it, it is something we all need; it's that Brian wears the need on
his sleeve so openly.  one of Brian's incredible powers is he shows us that the outside
force is there to help push him, and he subsequently presses on and perseveres !

- we are so fortunate

Ok cool...glad that's what it was.