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The 50th anniversary of Dennis's first marriage will be on July 29th. This is from ancestry.com

7/29/65 Dennis C Wilson aged 20 marries Carole E Vanerstrom aged 19

12/66 Dennis and Carole are divorced

8/4/70 Dennis marries Barbara C Charren (born 16 Sep 1945)

9/73 Dennis and Barbara divorce

28/7/78 Dennis Carl Wilson marries Barbara Karen Lamm in Nevada

This marriage date seems very late; I would have guessed 1976. Why marry in Nevada? It's also listed as a religious wedding (!)

5/23/80 Dennis Carl Wilson divorces Barbara Karen Lamm (or she divorces him)

Dennis's SSN is on ancestry, as is Karen's. Infact too much info is on there.

California and Nevada vital statistics and the Social Security Death Index are public records. You can access those SSN's in a number of different places on the internet.

That's Dennis' 2nd marriage to Karen: the first was May 21st, 1976 in Kauai, Hawaii. The first divorce followed on September 19th, 1977

The 12/66 divorce of Carole & DW is wrong: she filed in June 1967.

Carole was born 11/10/46, so she would have actually been 18 when they married (the Wilson boys seemed to go in for that: Marilyn was 16 when she married Brian (22), Annie was the same age with Carl (19))

I have DW and Barbara divorcing in August 1974.

When were Shawn and Dennis married?

And for Dennis' weddings, how many of them were proper ceremonies with attendees, etc? Did other Wilsons, Loves, Jardines and friends attend?

Andrew, are you sure about Annie's age? I recall, back when Carl and Annie's marriage was revealed publicly, that there was a big fuss made in the media about how young she was at 16. Back then, someone getting married at 18 wasn't much of a big deal, but 16 did get attention.

I read that meaning Annie was at the same age that Marilyn was when she & Brian were married.

Pretty much all of this stuff, and even more mind-numbingly trivial stuff is on 10452, somewhere, but because I'm such a sunbeam for Jesus these days I'll save you the looking: July 28th, 1983. In true BB fashion, at the time she was 18. Dennis was 38.

Entirely - she was the same age when she married Carl as Marilyn was when she married Brian: 16. Born 12/27/49, married 2/3/66.

Andrew, I think there were earlier failed filings, which are recorded as if they were the actual divorces:

"Dennis filed for divorce from Carole on December 21, 1966, but the action was dismissed. In June 1967, Carole filed for divorced."

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Dennis-Wilson-Biography/53FEC225E52251D44825698500179647

Carole's first marriage, to John Vanerstrom, 15 Nov 1961, lists her as 16, so that must be another porkie as she was only 15

Really ? On the day their daughter Jennifer was born ? (Unless I've really screwed up...)

I'm reading this bio and by the third sentence I can see credibility running for the horizon with its ass on fire:

"However most drum parts on the Beach Boys records are played by Hal Blaine, Ricky Fataar and others."

But I shall persevere...

I understand now, I just misread your original statement.  

Andrew, I can send you the scan. It definitely has 12/66 as the date.

EDIT: Dan Addington has Jennifer being born 2/25/67, which is also confirmed by Ancestry.com:

http://www.danaddington.com/denny/timeline.html

Carol's maiden name was Unrot.

Well dammit, how 'bout that ? Screwed up big time.

If you're reading the Scott Wilson bio, it's best to leave your IQ in another room until you finish it. Makes Todd Gold look good.

Calling the editing and ghost writing a hack job would be an insult to hacks.

Where was the over-bearing father Murray when Dennis made the disastrous decision to get married at 20?  Somebody should have stopped him.

His English girlfriend: not in any way or form a writer, professional or otherwise.

In the Gaines book Carol says Dennis initially moved out in early 68 after accusing her of starving one of their horses