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Have all the 2fer1's apart from the aforementioned MIU/Light Album, was wondering why is it out of print and are there plans for Capitol to re-release it as I'd like to complete my collection.

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Good taste?

L.A. might not be Pet Sounds but it's a very cohesive album and (for my personal taste) it's a lot better than anything they released afterwards, even though TWGMTR did come close (probably).

Pretty sure they just re-issued these on vinyl recently. I just saw brand new copies in a shop yesterday.

I think Kook requested that Capitol pull them out of circulation.

I had to pay $50 for the double CD.  It was a tough find.  So was Summer In Paradise.

The BBs personally went to Capitol HQ one day and asked that the twofer be withdrawn on the grounds that they're not real albums, just contractally obligated hodegpodges of older material and rehashed solo cuts.

These albums will find their way back into print eventually.

<<The BBs personally went to Capitol HQ one day and asked that the twofer be withdrawn on the grounds that they're not real albums, just contractally obligated hodegpodges of older material and rehashed solo cuts>>

And because they didn't rock.  Except for Shortnin' Bread, which rocks.

Seriously? I'm not TWGMTR's biggest fan, but there are four substantial BW songs on there and while I like LA, there are, maybe three good  songs on it - two by DW and one by Carl.

Agreed. TWGMTR is good...but it's not great. LA was the last great album. The last time they really pulled the magic out and made the effort.

Out of print? I think I've just been f----d!

Since the 2-fer for MIU/LA has no bonus tracks, you could always consider purchasing the individual CDs issued in Japan and probably some other territories as well.

Yea that's a possibility. Not sure what the mastering is like for those though as I assume the other 2fers are digitally re-mastered, although sometimes that can be a bad thing anyway, as some mixers idea of 'remaster' is 'brickwalling'  ::) ;D

The only Beach Boys CD that I know of that is close to brickwalled is Sounds of Summer. The 2-fers are bright so they can highlight the vocals, but none are brickwalled.

Totally serious about it. On L.A. I count two classics (Good Timin', Baby Blue) and several songs that range from pleasant (Sumahama, Shortenin' Bread) to good (Going South, Lady Lynda, Full Sail) to very good (Angel Come Home, Love Surrounds Me). I really like its overall melancholy mood and both Dennis and Carl are very present throughout. Brian's lack of participation is kind of a bummer, though his one song here, Good Timin', is one of my favourite BB songs period. I never seem to get tired of that song. TWGMTR, on the other hand, has its fair share of great moments but to me it's just not the same. As a whole, it's not quite as original, not quite as touching, etc. Absolutely love Pacific Coast Highway, though.

I've never gone off a record as fast as I did TWGMTR.

TWGMTR is like BWPS for me. I liked it a LOT at the time due to the hullabaloo surrounding its release...as time goes on, I like it less and less. TWGMTR is on the level of the self-titled album for me.

Dr BB - Just curious if Mark Linett (or Alan Boyd) has stated that the 2-fers are bright so they can highlight the vocals, or if this is a presumption on your (or someone else's) part.

Presumption on my part. To my ears that is the biggest difference from either the 1990 2-fers and the original albums (old Capitol and the new AP releases).

I know. When I found this out about 4 months ago, I purchased extra copies of 15BO/Love You and KTSA/BB85 from Amazon. And the only copies of KTSA/BB85 Amazon had were UK pressings. They had no MIU/LA copies. I already had extras of Sunflower/SU , CATPST/Holland and Concert.

cmon...the light album is NOT good album, and made no mark whatsoever in the world of rock and offered nothing memorable to the BBs output. Yeah dennis's cuts from bambu are its saving grace, baby blue is a very pretty song....now MIU isn't all bad; half of it is utter garbage BUT the fast songs are fun- pitter patter and shes got rhythm are rockin, their renditions of come go w me & peggy sue (15bO) are solid and the remake of hawaii (kona coast) is fun ,lame but fun. Even though a third of MIU is re-records and/or year old cuts Id rather jam it instead of the BBs parodying themselves while attempting disco (here comes the night) yknow¿

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Why so caught up "in the world of rock"? Who cares? Nothing the band released after Pet Sounds made a mark in the world of rock. For better or worse their canon of work is their legacy and should be available. Don't be so caught up in re-records or year old cuts. Almost every Beach Boys album has both, even the beloved Pet Sounds. One last thing, how does one parody themselves with something that was their first try at it? You can only parody yourself with something that you already have done. I know it is all opinion, but you come off has wanting to convince everyone that you are opinions are pertinent. I don't think you are succeeding very well.

Take away the disco Here Comes the Night, and the throwaway version of Shortenin Bread, and LA is a darn good Beach Boys album if you ask me. 

I think MIU is pretty good too.   

Personally, I think MIU and LA are better than every post Holland release with the exception of TWGMTR. 

C'mon.  Is too, good.  HCTN rocks!

But TWGMTR is a collection of old rehashed solo cuts so it must automatically suck.

I never said pet sounds was their last good album; smiley smile, wild honey, 20/20 are GREAT albums/ dennis's songs on sunflower are awesome, and surfs up and holland are good too, I never said they weren't.

Some of you so-called fans on this board have really shitty taste

Find it on the internet and type in your credit card number and address.  It will magically arrive at your door in amatter of days.     Really.     I've done this myself on the advice of some insiders.    Like magic!

I don't know what is meant by "the world of rock"; I heard "Peggy Sue" once on the local AM in '78; "Here Comes the Night" might have gotten played a few times, but "Good Timin" was a major hit up here in the NW.

Yep,

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I like a lot of LA Light, would love to see a version with HCTN excised in favor of some other track from that period.