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Title: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: OllieBop on May 14, 2015, 06:05:18 PM
It's 1981-83 and I'm an executive for CBS/Caribou/whomever and I demand "new" material: those middle aged Beach Bum's ain't had a hit for 5 years, solo albums ain't selling, so YOUR job, Sonny Jim, is to compile an album from the odds and sods on bootlegs and boxsets of outtakes, to present to myself,  just try to do your best... we need a hit and to sell units...

No more than 12 tracks. With an emphsis on the more recent late 70's, early 80's material, but you can go way back to 1960 if you want... Go compile me a tracklist!


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 14, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Wrinkles (original version) + 9 remixes of Wrinkles.


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Cyncie on May 14, 2015, 07:15:45 PM
Wrinkles (original version) + 9 remixes of Wrinkles.

Ah crap. What happened to the Kokomo Sessions?


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: joshferrell on May 14, 2015, 07:29:08 PM
1. It's not too late
2. Stevie
3. looking down the coast
4. California Feeling
5. he's a bum
6. I don't wanna know
7. school girl
8. too cruel
9. Lines
10. wild situation
11. Be my baby (MIC version)
12. Love remember me


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 14, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Wrinkles (original version) + 9 remixes of Wrinkles.

 :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 14, 2015, 09:42:23 PM
Lets make this happen. :lol


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: c-man on May 15, 2015, 04:09:48 AM
11. Be my baby (MIC version)

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Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Steve Latshaw on May 15, 2015, 07:05:19 AM
I think they would have opted for "finished" vault tracks of mostly recent (1976-83) vintage... tracks that didn't require sweetening in the studio).

In no particular order:
RUNAWAY (live/rejected single)
CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' (1983 version)
BEEN WAY TOO LONG (1980 KTSA remix)
CALENDAR GIRL (Fall 1979 Bruce Johnston re-record)
BRIAN'S BACK
LOOP-DE-LOOP (Al had been lobbying for this for years)
MICHAEL ROW THE BOAT ASHORE
OUR TEAM
GOIN' TO THE BEACH
DA DOO RON RON
SURFER SUSIE
THE LORD'S PRAYER (stereo version, licensed from Capitol)


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Awesoman on May 15, 2015, 07:19:54 AM
Wasn't this period pretty much the band's lowest point in their career?  Brian and Dennis completely burned out, Carl jumping ship, etc.  Jardine was probably even reconsidering going back to dental school during that time. 


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Steve Latshaw on May 15, 2015, 08:30:25 AM
I also think it's safe to assume that there was a paucity of new original material.  As I recall, the two songs being pushed as new material at the time (Runaway and California Dreamin' 83 version) came from Al and were covers, along with a track he mentioned in an interview called "Whispering Bells," originally recorded by the Kingston Trio.  The latter, I think, ended up forming the basis of "Island Girl."


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2015, 08:34:25 AM
Wasn't this period pretty much the band's lowest point in their career?  Brian and Dennis completely burned out, Carl jumping ship, etc.  Jardine was probably even reconsidering going back to dental school during that time. 

By 1983, Al *was* kind of dressing and primping himself like he was a dentist:

(http://davidmcgough.com/photos/Beach%20Boys,%20%20%20%20%20NJ.jpg)


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2015, 08:37:35 AM
Even if some of these potential tracklistings had been released back then and we didn't know the provenance of the recordings, they would have sounded pretty freakin' disjointed.

I don't think by the early 80's they had an album's worth of contemporary, commercial-sounding material in the vault to piece together an album. There was and is a TON of stuff in the vaults that *I* like, but that's of course a different yardstick.


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Steve Latshaw on May 15, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
<<In no particular order:
RUNAWAY (live/rejected single)
CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' (1983 version)
BEEN WAY TOO LONG (1980 KTSA remix)
CALENDAR GIRL (Fall 1979 Bruce Johnston re-record)
BRIAN'S BACK
LOOP-DE-LOOP (Al had been lobbying for this for years)
MICHAEL ROW THE BOAT ASHORE
OUR TEAM
GOIN' TO THE BEACH
DA DOO RON RON
SURFER SUSIE
THE LORD'S PRAYER (stereo version, licensed from Capitol)>>

As an addendum to my list above, I think Bruce might have finally gotten a chance to do his "collage" of SMILE tracks.  That might have been enough to mollify CBS and turn the whole thing into 20/20 part 2.



Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on May 15, 2015, 09:43:37 AM
No particular order

It's A Beautiful Day (if 10 Years of Harmony didn't exist)
California Feeling (group version from MIC)
Mexico
Looking Down the Coast
It's Over Now
Still I Dream of It
Our Team
Wouldn't It be Nice To Live Again
Calendar Girl
Going to the Beach


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: petsite on May 15, 2015, 01:49:53 PM
I have listed some below to be pulled from. I restricted myself to the last several years before 1983.

Sweetie - Recorded with a Mike/Al/Brian lead
Stevie - Polish it up
California Dreamin'
Runaway
California Callin' - 1982 version
Goin' To The Beach
California Feelin'
San Miguel
Calendar Girl - only IF Mike didn't use it.
Lookin' Down The Coast
Our Team
How's About A Little Bit Of Your Sweet Lovin'
Brian's Back
Time For Bed
Johnny B. Goode
Surfer Suzie
Da Doo Ron Ron
Boys & Girls - Lead vocal needed
Been Way Too Long
River Deep Mountain High - lead vocal needed


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Nicko1234 on May 15, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
There are a lot of songs from this era (and just before) that I would like to hear.

Brian`s Sweetie, for example, and Adam Marsland has said positive things about Carl`s rendition of I`ll Always Love You and Mike`s Bucks.

Some of the stuff that is out there like Lookin Down the Coast and Stevie would have needed a lot of production work to get them up to a releasable standard imo.


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
From the demo of "Sweetie" floating around (which admittedly I haven't listened to in awhile), it sounds like an uber-super-simple song, and not terribly interesting. Even on the Queen Mary telecast, Mike seems more interested in the song than Brian himself. As others have mentioned, it's the "Heart and Soul"/"This Boy"(insert the name of a million other songs) chord progression.

Never heard "I'll Always Love You", though some have indeed raved about it. I think they included *only* Carl's lead vocal from it on some public screening of a documentary (Billy Hinsche's perhaps?).

I'm surprised it hasn't surfaced on any archival releases considering how much some folks have raved about it (especially when they included another cover from the KTSA sessions on MIC, the nice but rather innocuous cover of "Da Doo Ron Ron").


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: SloopJohnnyB on May 15, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
MTV just started and was going strong by 1983. I wonder what the guys thought about it or how they were going to compete?

1981-1983 were the best years for MTV....when it was REALLY music television. 


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: punkinhead on May 15, 2015, 09:40:42 PM
Alan Boyd showed a documentary on Carl at the Roxy years ago...he played it for that BB IU class I attended a few years ago. I want to say it's a vocals only and that the original reason it remained unreleased is that Gina didn't like Carl's vocals. The short documentary left everyone teary-eyed, had some great pictures I'd never seen before, and featured vocals only snippets of The Trader and Long Promised Road (I think).


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Moon Dawg on May 16, 2015, 09:00:10 AM
  See label for correct playing order -

 1. California Feeling
 2. Still I Dream Of It
 3. Been Way too Long (KTSA)
 4. Brian's Back
 5. Love Remember Me
 6. School Girl
 7. Stevie
 8. Goin' to the Beach
 9. Don't Fight the Sea
10. Do Doo Run Run


  A 20/20 for 1982.


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: joshferrell on May 16, 2015, 10:44:47 AM
"The Beach Boys- Oh Lord."


1. Oh Yeah
2. Fig Plucker
3. Drip Drop
4. Oh Broadway
5. can't stop talking about American Girls.
6. Deep Purple
7. Carnival
8. Mike come back to LA
9. Brian's Back
10.oh Lord
11.  Mony Mony
12. Battle Hymn of the Republic


Title: Re: No New Album 1981-83?
Post by: Watch a Cave on May 16, 2015, 10:46:29 AM
The beach boys had a ton of stuff laying around.. Take the best of Adult Child as a start and mix in some Dennis songs and you got something.  The center of this album would be "Holy Man" from Dennis.

Side one..

California Feelin'
Goin to the beach
Life is for the living
Lines
Stevie
San Miguel

Side two..

Sherry she needs me
It's over now
Tug of love
Everybody wants to live
Still I dream of it
Holy Man



This would be a great album.  Make Holy man the centerpiece with some beautiful harmonies and there you have it.