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Lots, apparently.

Brian "Ike" Eichenberger replacing Randell Kirsch... 54 years later, this band is still full of surprises.

What is Foskett doing?

Sweating...

A shame that Randell is moving on. I think he did a great job and was underused since Jeff`s arrival.

I think that Jeff sounds better on the leads than he does on the falsetto parts nowadays. Giving him more songs like Darlin and letting Brian Eichenberger take over some of the other parts would work well imo.

I wonder if this explains the rather forceful ("effective immediately") wording of Brian's announcement of adding Matt back to his band.

Ike and Matt sound good together on the "Soundstage" Blu-ray.

Kirsche played bass. Will Ike play bass (he played guitar with Brian), or is someone switching over to bass?

Brian better start nailing down his band with retainer agreements or something.  :lol

Also slightly potentially interesting that unlike Foskett, who Mike seemed happy to heavily advertise had previously been in Brian's band for eons, Mike doesn't offer any of the pedigree/stats on Ike in his Facebook post. No mention of being with Brian or the Four Freshmen. Maybe the Facebook post was supposed to be short and more about Kirsche, I dunno.

All that stuff I said about Mike's Beach Boys?  I take it all back.  Randell is a great guy.

Eichenberger can't hold a job. (that's a joke)

Or he doesn't want to be tied down.

Well this is an interesting development.  I'm guessing Ike will take over bass duties.  I can't imagine Scott T. or Foskett switching, although anything is possible in Beach Boys land.

Anybody want to throw down a bet as to who's next?  Darian?  Probyn?  Melinda?

April 13

'The singer said during a recent phone interview that the current configuration of The Beach Boys is the strongest the group has been in decades.'



Strange things happen.... ::)

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Randell is truly one of the nicest and most kind and positive people I have ever talked to!  As great as a musician and vocalist as he is, he is an even more outstanding human being!

Seconded.

Thirded.

Firstly, any time I have heard Randell, I have thought highly of his playing and singing. Hopefully he has a good new gig somewhere. 

Secondly, with the tenor/ falsetto capacities of Jeff, Scott and Ike, this is a band which should be heard.

Maybe that licence should be re negotiated. Shame to lose all that harmony to the ether.........

Beach Boys management  a.k.a. Jackie  Love is in her "firing mode" again.... everybody gets the knife sooner or latter !!   She fired all of the top notch musicians from yester years , also known as "Carl's Band" !  She fires all the "roadcrew" members also sooner or latter !!  NUTS !  :afro

Adrian Baker claimed that she was responsible for him losing his position in the band so everything else can be forgiven I guess.  ;)

All of them? None left for other opportunities or illness or their own reasons?

Won't have a REAL assessment of "what is happening" until August when I see [and hear] them.  I hope this isn't merely just another corporate cost saving 'move'.  Those NEVER work out long term.  Sure...Maybe they only have a 5% negative affect on the over-all sound and presentation...but what do you have left after you've done it 20 times? ???

I guess I'll find out August 8.

I`m not sure it can be said that the changes made in the past had a `5% negative effect'. Kowalski and Baker leaving certainly helped and Chris Farmer moving on allowed Scott Totten to become musical director.

And since Foskett`s arrival, I`m not sure Randell was all that important to the sound of the group (whether that had any bearing in him moving on I have no idea). Obviously they will need to rehearse and re-organise but it shouldn`t really have a negative effect imo.

Cut to Randell with a single tear rolling down his cheek.

I'm not sure the nature of this move whether it was voluntary for Randell or not, but I really truly believe at this point, Jeff is starting to creep up in age a little bit, and to my ears his voice would be a little more well suited in the middle third than the upper third.  I would not be shocked to hear "Ike" take most of the falsetto parts, he has an extremely fine falsetto.  I think this will end up working out quite well, if Foskett sings the middle thirds and Ike take the upper third, unfortunately for us fans there wont be any more interactions with the genuinely great guy Randell. 

When myKe fires br00th will anybody notice??  ???

Yes.

The mic stand would notice and maybe one or two groupies.

So (a) Brian's Back?

          Musicians Wanted.
Must be named either Alan, Carl or Dennis. ;)

Would the lack of adjusting the stand in question have an ill effect on the band's sound. What about the infernal hand clapping? Perhaps, in his honor, there would be an empty keyboard and it's accompanying mic stand.  ;D

One thing's for sure...'Wendy' would sound a whole lot better.

From the way it was presented, it sounded voluntary. But no definitive cause presented yet.

In any case, he will be sorely missed on stage and off.

Add me to the list of fans who will miss Randell.     I had become a true fan of this BAND and this IMHO sucks.  I'm recalling a comment John C. Made to me after a recent show when I told him how great he sounded throughout the show; "well, good.   Maybe that means I'll still have a job".

The more I think about it, the more it seems wrong to leave this lineup to only touring. Those voices--the current blend--- really should be recording and releasing. Plenty of songwriters would welcome the present BB recording their stuff.  The licence really needs renegotiated......otherwise, the BB become an ever older/oldies band.

Perhaps Mike thought that Jeff was starting to sound like Mickie Mouse with a sore throat

Is there a notice that was posted somewhere about this, and Matt Jardine being a full member of Brian's Band?

Can of worms has just been opened!  Much as I like them as singers they are not the Beach Boys for recording purposes and there is no need to renegotiate the licence (unless it's to allow Brian, Al, Blondie e al to release a Beach Boys album IMHO).

Yes, I agree

I'm not a huge fan of the falsetto of JF, however I believe his natural baritone in the middle third is outstanding.  In my honest opinion this band lost its vocal prowess when Christian left the band.  Sometimes I would close my eyes and he could sound a scary amount like a young Carl.  It was truly a shame we had to listen to Bruce sings GOK all those years when Christian sound eerily like Carl and light years better than Bruce on it. 

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I agree that Christian is/was underrated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Qe0dZPJKo

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that Mike's wife is the one calling the shots; Mike has Jackie, Brian has Melinda.

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I agree with you.

Groupies?  Bruce?  What, is he blocking the door to Stamos' dressing room or something?

What? :lol

LOL! Well the "ever older oldies band" ship has already sailed. If Mike wants to record Beach Boys music under the Beach Boys name, he needs to be talking to Cousin Bri without pushing for a room. My guess is, he's not that bothered.

All future M&B performances of In My Room should be reworked as In Mike's Room.

LOL!

There's a world where I must go to write a song or two
In Mike's Room. In Mike's Room.

Cousin Brian will be there in it, but nobody with a mullet too...
In Mike's Room. In Mike's Room.

Well im sure without knowing everything that Mike is calling the shots and his wife does what he wants to do... I actually dont think there was anything wrong with Randall"s playing and singing.. So who know"s whats up..??. Wasn"t there someone in Randall"s family a few years ago that was sick..?? Cancer ??.. I hope everything worked out ok and everyone is well.. Randall will land on his feet.. PaPA doo run run.. Surf city allstars.. California surf inc.. etc.. someone will pick him up he has known all those people for decades

I don't know if this is true at all, but one of the reasons Christian Love left the band was to focus on his other band, 5-Alarm, which he sings and plays bass in. Him and Randell have apparently written songs together and the band's facebook page says that he sometimes joins them. Perhaps he left so he could concentrate on this and his other projects (California Surf Inc.)?

I wonder what this means for Brian E's Four Freshmen commitments. Mike's Beach Boys tour a lot more than Brian does, so does that mean he is leaving the Freshmen?

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I feel like Bruce makes Mike really uncomfortable with his "OMFG R U HEERING THIS" mannerisms at the beginning of this clip that Mike stops watching his son do a great job singing a classic song so Bruce will stop looking at Uncle Mike.

Anyone know if David Marks is still going to be with the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys for their late summer US Tour? 

He stepped back from the keyboard for a few seconds and tried to make eye contact with Mike...nothing that out of the ordinary! Mike doesn't even seem to notice for a second.

One can now do such a chart on who has come and gone with the Beachboys.    One can only imagine how it would look in ten years

Agree with both comments. CL nails it. Bruce is impressed. Mike already knew it.

Nice to see one of my former music professors listed on that chart, he was one of my favorites.  :)

Was Kirsch fired so he could spend more time with his family?

Say, remember when people tried to claim that post C50 Mike Love went back to the "touring band" out of intense loyalty for the backing band and a need to see them employed?