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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-talks-blurred-lines-chuck-berry-and-surfin-usa-20150312-story.html

Couldn't find this posted anywhere, sorry if I'm mistaken about that.

I love the sh*t out of Brian, but I had to do a doubletake, because I was listening to a mashup of all the times Brian's used the Shortenin' Bread riff (posted on YouTube) at the exact moment I saw this thread and started reading the article. :lol Of all the times!

Quote: ""I never repeat myself," Wilson said of the hundreds of songs he's written and co-written over a career that's still going after more than a half century."

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!   Too funny!!!!!!!

Then again he can repeat himself all he wants because generally each time he does it goes to another level.

Speaking of repeating himself...

He's also already starting to think about another album to follow "No Pier Pressure," even though that one isn't being released until April 7.

"It's going to be more rock 'n' roll," he said. "We're going to record 'Johnny B. Goode.'"



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Great news!!! Thank you for the link

Why hasn't he done his "rock n' roll" album? For the last 10? years whenever he does press for an album he always says his next will be it. Is it just talk, is someone "stopping" him doing it? He seems really enthused to do one but it never materialises. It's got weird to me.

I'm gonna get punnished but I have to say it. I love Brian as much as anyone, and his music is the reason I'm here. But I can't fail to notice that if this thread was about a Mike Love interview with the statement "I never repeat myself", we'd have a 10-page collection of rants.

Thanks for the link. It's wonderful news that Brian is still thinking of doing more music.

"Brian never forgets a good riff" - David Leaf, early eighties.  ;D

Probably because Brian doesn't take himself as seriously as Mike does. Look at your signature for example - Brian says his favorite movie is Norbit. Brian says he's going to make a rock n roll album next (has been saying this for years and years). Brian says he never repeats himself. Brian says a lot of things (whether it be because of his sense of humor and/or his nervousness when talking to a reporter). It's who Brian is and we all accept it. Whereas Mike is more of a straightforward guy. So you're right, we probably would have a 10 page discussion about it had Mike said it. But these are two very different people with two very different interview styles.

As for the article itself - I really hope this rock n roll album is the real deal this time.

Pleasure Island needs to happen 8)

Pleasure Island is my dream! 8)

At this point, I think it has to be a running joke. As you say, when he promotes a new album and someone asks him "What's next," he says, "I'm gonna do a rock and roll album!" Maybe it's just his standard answer.

It was to me in 2005 during a phone interview. Maybe in 2040 we'll get a 6-CD box set called The Rock'N Roll Album Sessions.  ;D

Brian could have said that he was now ready to retire. Maybe the rock and roll album will happen, maybe it won't. We don't know why it didn't happen before - Brian just using the words as a stock answer? Brian wanting to do it but perhaps it not going down well with the record company?

The article just gives us something for which to be hopeful. Meanwhile there is NPP.

Brian doing a whole album of Chuck Berry songs? Could you imagine that? What would the tracklist be like? Interesting....

He used to say "Proud Mary" would be on it didn't he? There are two titles I guess.

I dunno, I think this whole "Shortnin' Bread" thing is kind of a non-issue. To me, it just sounds like a generic blues riff, or Brian's particular arrangement of it. You could apply it to anything, much like you could a shuffle riff, or a Chuck Berry bass line, or a Dizzy Miss Lizzy lick.

I just listened to that Youtube medley, and yes, the groove is pretty much the same, but the songs are different.

Not that that would work in copyright law these days, of course.

"Proud Mary" would be a really fun encore number instead of "Barbara Ann." Blondie! Al! SUUUUUUUUURGE!

Brian's been saying his next album will be a rock & roll set since Imagination.

I can't wait to hear his version of "My Ding-a-ling"...

I think the record he's referring to already exists and it's called 15 Big Ones.

I wouldn't mind a whole Brian tribute album to doo-wop classics, such as a song I mentioned in another thread, The Chimes' version of the standard Once In A While. A Brian version of the Flamingoes' take of I Only Have Eyes For You could be nice as well, with a mass of harmony vocals.

I wonder if something like this is what Brian pitched to Mike as the next album before it became TWGMTR?

Brian uses that "gonna do a rock and roll album next time" as often as Micky Dolenz compares the Monkees to Vulcans.

It'd be a covers album. Not that there' s anything wrong with it.

A Brian-arranged version of Chuck's Havana Moon could certainly have potential to be really good.

Mind you, a Brian version of Chuck's Memphis Tennessee could make for a companion piece to Hey Little Tomboy and I Wanna Pick Ypu Up  ;D .

I suspect that quote will be engraved on his headstone:  "The next album is going to be a rock and roll album!"

This is true. I remember reading about it in an interview promoting "Imagination" for the now-defucnt Raygun magazine. "Proud Mary" was the song Brian said he was working on. This "rock and roll" album is growing to mythical SMiLE-like proportions. In 3 years will be celebrating the 20th anniversary of it never having been finished.  ;D

I heard that Brian recorded the "rock and roll album" but he burned some of the tapes because the guitars were causing bad vibrations. Expect a release date of January 2067.

Old people repeat themselves.    Have you ever noticed this?      Old people repeat themselves.     they forget they have already mentioned something.    Have you ever noticed how old people repeat themselves?  they forget they may have already mentioned something.    sometimes they just go on and on.    They repeat themselves.   

Word.

The Andy Paley sessions are probably the closest we will get to a rock and roll album.

At least berrys people sued the beatles too. They were a cover band til 64, jus like the stones were a cover band til late 65. The BBs were orig from the getgo.

Errr...but The Beatles song that the lawsuit was over was "Come Together", a song from 1969.

And The Beatles being a "cover band" 'til '64 you say? I think the songs "Please Please Me", "Love Me Do", "All My Loving", "She Loves You" and "I Want To Hold Your Hand" amongst quite a few others would like to have a word with you. And their cover versions? Well, if "Please Mister Postman", "Money", "Roll Over Beethoven" and "Twist and Shout" suck, well I wanna hear something good!

And even if we say that the "getgo" of The Beatles is 1958 instead of 1962, well they had originals even then. A little number called "In Spite Of All The Danger", written by McCartney and Harrison. And yeah, it sounds a bit like "Tryin' to Get to You" by Elvis, but whatever! Still a LOVELY original tune. In 1958.

And since we are talking Chuck, when is Berry's next album coming out? He's been promising a new album since at least 1985. If you don't count the soundtrack to Hail Hail Rock 'N' Roll, his last was Rockit, summer 1979.

Unfortunately Lonely Summer, I don't think that's ever gonna happen. I don't know if Chuck's ever ruled it out, but I can't see it happening. I know that Little Richard has ruled it out for himself though. At least Jerry Lee Lewis is still making new stuff though.

I know the beatles had originals in the beginning but it was george martin that made them, without him they were unpolished and unable to self.produce...even when brian wasnt in.charge the BBs still put out a half dozen great albums after pet sounds and could still perform live yet the beatles collapsed after revolver and became an ego driven.studio group as was the pop culture of the late 60s/early 70s..

Hey man, I think Brian is amazing that he's been able both perform and produce on so many albums. However, just because George Martin produced The Beatles doesn't mean that all those early songs mean nothing. To be honest, the whole "George Martin aura" doesn't really start for many 'til like Help! or Rubber Soul or Revolver where things like strings, backwards tapes, sped-up tapes and whatnot became part of the deal. Before then, it was pretty much just raw rock 'n roll and a few ballads. Which, to take nothing away from George Martin, very well might have been huge even without him. For a fan of the concise pop of the Ramones to not give credit for the pure pop songwriting of the early Beatles is baffling to me.

And the playing live thing? Are you kidding? The Beach Boys were surely NOT looked at as a live juggernaut after the mid '60s til the early '70s Jack Rieley era. Basically their live fortunes turned around when Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar joined The Beach Boys. But even in the late '60s, where The Beach Boys were playing smaller crowds and whatnot, they started introducing extra players. It wasn't four instrumentalists and a lead singer pounding out rock 'n roll like it was from '62 through '65ish. It just wasn't.

And to say The Beatles couldn't play live in the late '60s? Sure it's not much to go by, but the rooftop performances from '69 kick ass in my book. The takes of "Get Back" rock, "Don't Let Me Down" is awesome and "One After 909" positively kicks. Shoot, they even made relative crap like "Dig A Pony" kinda rock. So...yeah.

FTFY.  ;D

One new Berry recording made the round in the 90s or 2000s iirc. I never heard it and forgot the name... ::)
The Killer's newest album is a disappointment though. Read more about my opinion in the thread on the general music section. But if you think Brian and Joe's use of autotune was terrible, just listen to some of the crap that went on JLL's "Rock and Roll Time" album.

Chuck Berry Keeps on saying that he wants to do a Non-Rock N Roll album for years and years now only not to release it,,,,,  :lol

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He actually did any kind of studio recording in the '90s or '00s? Really? Are you sure of this? I just find it really hard to believe for some reason.

this article was pretty much a bore.

He has a studio at Berry Park; has told reporters about recording new stuff for decades, but nothing ever comes out. I remember an article about him in USA Today, circa 1985, where he talked about putting out a double album. Back in 2001, Rolling Stone interviewed him and told about watching him in the studio doing several new songs, said it was good stuff. Same thing when his 80th birthday rolled around. Still nothing. At least Little Richard did the occasional movie song. There's enough stuff from him since his last full album to make a nice compilation.

I'd hate to see Brian waste precious time on Chuck Berry classics. The Disney album, perhaps just a stopgap, was also redundant. But I am going to buy it anyway.  :)

I wouldn't expect any more recordings from Chuck Berry, the man's last concert appearance in Denmark was an embarrassment and it's clearly time for him to hang up the guitar.

I don't remember the title unfortunately. Maybe it was already recorded in the 80s and planned for a new album.
Just google "Chuck Berry new recordings" or something similar. You'll get the infos about later recordings then (unfortunately even that way I couldn't find the song title or any more info)