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Title: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: branaa09 on February 04, 2015, 10:56:29 PM Has anyone figured who played on the new tracks from the Little Deuce Coupe album from 1963, such as No Go Show Boat or Spirit of America? Was it just the boys or did any studio musicians contribute instruments?
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 04, 2015, 11:46:29 PM On all tracks (except the obvious):
Brian - bass/kbds/gtr Carl - gtr Dennis - drums/perc David - gtr Alan - bass on "BTTYS", "Cutie", "CCC", "SOA", "NGSB" & "CM" Also: Steve Douglas - sax on "BTTYS", "SOA" & "NGSB" (assumed) Jay Migliori - sax on "BTTYS", "SOA" & "NGSB" (assumed) Craig will no doubt correct the finer detail, but that's pretty much it IMHYEO. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Sjöman on February 05, 2015, 12:38:49 AM Brian - "gtr" ?
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lee Marshall on February 05, 2015, 04:50:01 AM Dennis - perc that's pretty much it IMHYEO. So then...Dennis made the coffee? :lol GREAT album "in *MY* humble yet educated opinion." ;) The Beach Boys' FIRST really great album and the very best one 'til the dynamic duo of Today and Summer Days and Summer Nights. And, except for Be True to Your School...NOT the hit version obviously...which was OK but didn't fit the theme... ... ['cept for this wee part..."When I cruise around the other parts of the town I got a decal in back"] ... ...it certainly was, at the very least, an accidental 'concept' album. Think I'll go and "perc" me some coffee. :hat Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on February 05, 2015, 07:26:38 AM I've often wondered if BW had some guitar ability other than Bass Guitar...it's a lot easier to transition from 6-string guitar to 4-string bass than it is the other way around...
So, can C-Man or ADG or anyone else confirm that Brian played guitar on BB's recordings? Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Jim Rockford on February 05, 2015, 07:58:49 AM I've often wondered if BW had some guitar ability other than Bass Guitar...it's a lot easier to transition from 6-string guitar to 4-string bass than it is the other way around... So, can C-Man or ADG or anyone else confirm that Brian played guitar on BB's recordings? Yeah. I'm curious about that too. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 05, 2015, 08:04:25 AM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight.
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 05, 2015, 08:31:54 AM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight. I owned the Pickwick Surfer Girl and Good Vibrations albums. Was confusing to me as a new fan to see albums with the same titles but different track listings, different covers.Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 05, 2015, 08:34:18 AM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight. I owned the Pickwick Surfer Girl and Good Vibrations albums. Was confusing to me as a new fan to see albums with the same titles but different track listings, different covers.Same here. At a certain point I finally understood that Pickwick made jumbled up collections. The album covers usually never matched the era. Wow Great Concert especially comes to mind. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lee Marshall on February 05, 2015, 08:57:42 AM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well?
I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: elnombre on February 05, 2015, 09:05:01 AM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight. I owned the Pickwick Surfer Girl and Good Vibrations albums. Was confusing to me as a new fan to see albums with the same titles but different track listings, different covers.Same here. At a certain point I finally understood that Pickwick made jumbled up collections. The album covers usually never matched the era. Wow Great Concert especially comes to mind. Just looked it up. Absolutely bizarre. (http://cdn.discogs.com/IVqzTDTgzkmrVgAqwZ3V8s4uWVk=/fit-in/596x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2274777-1311653288.jpeg.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 05, 2015, 09:12:16 AM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recal there being Pickwick Beatles records. Actually there were Pickwick Beatles albums. I have a few of them...Beatles Live Vol. 1 (Star Club recordings), The Silver Beatles Vol. I and 2 (all early stuff, Pete Best, Tony Sheridan). Very generic album artwork. No pictures of the band members. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lee Marshall on February 05, 2015, 09:19:34 AM So then...NOT the John Paul George and Ringo Beatles...but more back when they were paying their dues and backing Tony S for a little extra $$$...
The Beach Boys stuff was repackaging of their A-list stuff...and that 'live' thing. [I didn't like the first 'official' live album...BBs In Concert. You couldn't enjoy it with the screaming. The quality was way too THIN. It obviously was toyed with too...I mean studio stuff added in? Come ON!!! WTF are you thinking?...was what I was thinking at the time...and still it became their biggest selling album up to that point...or darn close to it.] No Capitol has NEVER impressed me. Buffoons. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 05, 2015, 09:22:14 AM So then...NOT the John Paul George and Ringo Beatles...but more back when they were paying their dues and backing Tony S for a little extra $$$... The Beach Boys stuff was repackaging of their A-list stuff...and that 'live' thing. [I didn't like the first 'official' live album...BBs In Concert. You couldn't enjoy it with the screaming. The quality was way too THIN. It obviously was toyed with too...I mean studio stuff added in? Come ON!!! WTF are you thinking?...was what I was thinking at the time...and still it became their biggest selling album up to that point...or darn close to it.] No Capitol has NEVER impressed me. Buffoons. I definitely agree with you about Capitol Records. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: joshferrell on February 05, 2015, 09:34:58 AM I agree about LDC being their first great album, sure it has songs from other albums but it's consistent, no cover tunes (well except for the rewrite of "Our hearts" into "A young man") no "surfing" Instrumentals, like half of the "Surfin' USA" album, no comedy bits or studio chatter. it also has a strange stereo mix which I actually like, mono instruments with stereo vocals on top of the mono music, it sounds unique that way almost artistic in a way..also the lyrics for "Betsy" are some of my favorite lyrics about a Female...lol..(er I mean a car) :lol
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: GoodVibrations33 on February 05, 2015, 08:05:22 PM I've often wondered if BW had some guitar ability other than Bass Guitar...it's a lot easier to transition from 6-string guitar to 4-string bass than it is the other way around... So, can C-Man or ADG or anyone else confirm that Brian played guitar on BB's recordings? Yeah. I'm curious about that too. Not a Beach Boys recording per se, but hasn't it been confirmed that Brian played guitar on the Survivors track "After the Game"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhWXtQJNr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhWXtQJNr8) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 05, 2015, 10:15:38 PM Yes. Said B side was recorded in the Crenshaw apartment he shared with Bob.
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 05, 2015, 11:19:06 PM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight. I owned the Pickwick Surfer Girl and Good Vibrations albums. Was confusing to me as a new fan to see albums with the same titles but different track listings, different covers.Same here. At a certain point I finally understood that Pickwick made jumbled up collections. The album covers usually never matched the era. Wow Great Concert especially comes to mind. Just looked it up. Absolutely bizarre. (http://cdn.discogs.com/IVqzTDTgzkmrVgAqwZ3V8s4uWVk=/fit-in/596x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2274777-1311653288.jpeg.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Jim Rockford on February 06, 2015, 08:51:26 AM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( They also had Elvis ones too.:) (http://www.elvis.net/wordsmusic/1978/img/1978-05lprcapickwickcamdemacl1-7064mahalofromelvis.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 06, 2015, 09:03:00 AM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( They also had Elvis ones too.:) Oh yeah they did, tons of Elvis ones. I had a few myself, might still have 'em. Pickwick also had lots of 50s oldies compilations. Springboard was another label I seem to remember that had lots of these types of generic budget albums. I think Springboard may have put out a couple of Beach Boys albums too, with the Kenny and The Cadets stuff and Luau etc. (http://www.elvis.net/wordsmusic/1978/img/1978-05lprcapickwickcamdemacl1-7064mahalofromelvis.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 06, 2015, 12:38:28 PM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( They also had Elvis ones too.:) (http://www.elvis.net/wordsmusic/1978/img/1978-05lprcapickwickcamdemacl1-7064mahalofromelvis.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Alan Smith on February 06, 2015, 01:43:41 PM My first copy of an album titled Little Deuce Coupe album wasn't even the same album as the original but the 1976 Pickwick re-issue, without Ballad Of Ole' Betsy, Be True To Your School, Shut Down, Spirit Of America, No Go Show Boat and A Young Man Is Gone, BUT included Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Drive-In and This Car Of Mine. I think I bought it at the supermarket (remember the budget priced albums at the supermarkets? Pickwick Records were big for that.) Then years later I bought the actual Little Deuce Coupe album on Capitol and finally heard A Young Man Is Gone much to my delight. I owned the Pickwick Surfer Girl and Good Vibrations albums. Was confusing to me as a new fan to see albums with the same titles but different track listings, different covers.Same here. At a certain point I finally understood that Pickwick made jumbled up collections. The album covers usually never matched the era. Wow Great Concert especially comes to mind. Just looked it up. Absolutely bizarre. (http://cdn.discogs.com/IVqzTDTgzkmrVgAqwZ3V8s4uWVk=/fit-in/596x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2274777-1311653288.jpeg.jpg) Available in a Thrift Shop near you. (http://www.discogs.com/Beach-Boys-The-Beach-Boys/release/1936723) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Jim Rockford on February 06, 2015, 02:11:55 PM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( They also had Elvis ones too.:) (http://www.elvis.net/wordsmusic/1978/img/1978-05lprcapickwickcamdemacl1-7064mahalofromelvis.jpg) And the rest movie songs. Haha. They sure loved using them whenever they could. It's a shame that Pickwick had the rights to put out all these barely thought out releases. The only good thing about these releases is sometimes getting unreleased stuff. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 06, 2015, 10:49:11 PM Just looked it up. Absolutely bizarre. Bizarre beyond words. But I like it! The song choice, tho - not good. esp. not fond of "Long Tall" & "Papa Oom".(http://cdn.discogs.com/IVqzTDTgzkmrVgAqwZ3V8s4uWVk=/fit-in/596x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2274777-1311653288.jpeg.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 07, 2015, 12:33:31 PM Is there an online discography anywhere of these BB's Pickwick albums? I've found several sites that show all the Elvis Pickwick/Camden albums, but nothing for the Beach Boys other than the standard album issues.
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 07, 2015, 01:34:48 PM Is there an online discography anywhere of these BB's Pickwick albums? I've found several sites that show all the Elvis Pickwick/Camden albums, but nothing for the Beach Boys other than the standard album issues. I'd love to see an online BB Pickwick discography, then I could see which ones I'm missing. I've got a small pile of 'em, lemme just take a peak...okay on Pickwick I have Good Vibrations (SPC 3269), Surfer Girl (SPC 3351), Little Deuce Coupe (SPC 3562), Wow Great Concert (SPC 3309), Beach Boys (SPC 3221)...other weird budget albums I have are La Grande Storia Del Rock (Armando Curcio Editore Records GSR 12), Beach Boys Greatest Hits 1961-1963 (Springboard Records SPB 4021), Beach Boys 20 Original Hits (Not all songs by the Beach Boys - ESL Records SD 4011), Surfin' (Movie Play Records 10012), Beach Boys Greatest Hits 1961-1963 (Wand Records WDS 688), Summer Fun (TeeVee Records TA 3-2021)...and these weird BB-related budget albums: The Surfsiders Sing The Beach Boys Songbook (Design Records DLP 208), The Deuce Coupes And The Shut Downs (Crown Records CLP 5393). Not to mention a countless amount of Capitol Records Budget Priced Reissues with similar titles (eg Good Vibrations, Surfer Girl etc.) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 02:40:22 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums.
Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: joshferrell on February 07, 2015, 02:50:51 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. do any of these have any interesting mixes? or are they the same mixes used..Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 03:28:10 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. do any of these have any interesting mixes? or are they the same mixes used..Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Regular mixes. The only diff I'm aware of could be the segues on Wow! Great Concert!, where a few of the songs are out of order. As a budget release my guess is that they simply made edits off the original album master (or copy thereof), so I'm wondering if any of those segues are overly obvious, or obviously covered over with additional crowd screaming to help hide the new edits. Then again, adding additional screams to help hide edits between songs is what it sounds like they did on the original album, and would have had to do for the studio recordings on that album. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Michael Edward Osbourne on February 07, 2015, 04:37:31 PM From the Pickwick Records wiki page...
"In the early 1980s, Pickwick manufactured so-called "audiophile" pressings on heavy vinyl (usually 180-240 grams). However, some audio aficionados found sound quality in these pressings inferior to that of normal vinyl. These LPs were quickly deleted and taken off the shelves to a point where some record collectors are willing to pay fortunes for these pressings. In 2003, a copy of The Beach Boys Greatest Hits sold for just over $2,500." Wowzers! Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 05:34:34 PM From the Pickwick Records wiki page... "In the early 1980s, Pickwick manufactured so-called "audiophile" pressings on heavy vinyl (usually 180-240 grams). However, some audio aficionados found sound quality in these pressings inferior to that of normal vinyl. These LPs were quickly deleted and taken off the shelves to a point where some record collectors are willing to pay fortunes for these pressings. In 2003, a copy of The Beach Boys Greatest Hits sold for just over $2,500." Wowzers! Does anyone here have one of these? What tracks does it contain? Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: bgas on February 07, 2015, 07:44:12 PM From the Pickwick Records wiki page... "In the early 1980s, Pickwick manufactured so-called "audiophile" pressings on heavy vinyl (usually 180-240 grams). However, some audio aficionados found sound quality in these pressings inferior to that of normal vinyl. These LPs were quickly deleted and taken off the shelves to a point where some record collectors are willing to pay fortunes for these pressings. In 2003, a copy of The Beach Boys Greatest Hits sold for just over $2,500." Wowzers! Does anyone here have one of these? What tracks does it contain? yeah, ya know what, I call bullshit. Let's see some proof, from anyone/anywhere, that this isn't simply a made for wiki joke. Oh! I really want to see the $4000 James Bond LP!!! Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Alan Smith on February 07, 2015, 08:30:18 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. do any of these have any interesting mixes? or are they the same mixes used..Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Regular mixes. The only diff I'm aware of could be the segues on Wow! Great Concert!, where a few of the songs are out of order. As a budget release my guess is that they simply made edits off the original album master (or copy thereof), so I'm wondering if any of those segues are overly obvious, or obviously covered over with additional crowd screaming to help hide the new edits. Then again, adding additional screams to help hide edits between songs is what it sounds like they did on the original album, and would have had to do for the studio recordings on that album. The Surfin' Safari tracks included on "The Beach Boys" are presented in fake stereo, but nothing new or revealing mix-wise. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: joshferrell on February 07, 2015, 08:36:55 PM Wasn't Pickwick a sort of Capitol subsidiary label. I think it was. Just another way that 'they' mistreated the image of 'our heroes'. It's almost as if the examples of them doing THAT are endless. And didn't those 'cheap' albums also use a lower grade vinyl as well? I don't recall there being any Pickwick Beatles records. No wonder the big record companies went doen the toilet...in many cases...over the years. Nincompoops....and now what's left are generally run by bean-counters with no 'feel' for music, artists, or customers. They might as well be selling SPAM...Monty Python era SPAM that is. >:( They also had Elvis ones too.:) (http://www.elvis.net/wordsmusic/1978/img/1978-05lprcapickwickcamdemacl1-7064mahalofromelvis.jpg) Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 10:46:43 PM do any of these have any interesting mixes? or are they the same mixes used.. Regular mixes. The only diff I'm aware of could be the segues on Wow! Great Concert!, where a few of the songs are out of order. As a budget release my guess is that they simply made edits off the original album master (or copy thereof), so I'm wondering if any of those segues are overly obvious, or obviously covered over with additional crowd screaming to help hide the new edits. Then again, adding additional screams to help hide edits between songs is what it sounds like they did on the original album, and would have had to do for the studio recordings on that album. The Surfin' Safari tracks included on "The Beach Boys" are presented in fake stereo, but nothing new or revealing mix-wise. True that the Surfin' Safari tracks on "The Beach Boys" Pickwick LP are presented in duophonic fake stereo, but those are the same mixes used by Capitol on the Surfin' Safari LP, which Capitol misleadingly labeled "Capitol Full Dimensional Stereo". Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 11:02:50 PM From the Pickwick Records wiki page... "In the early 1980s, Pickwick manufactured so-called "audiophile" pressings on heavy vinyl (usually 180-240 grams). However, some audio aficionados found sound quality in these pressings inferior to that of normal vinyl. These LPs were quickly deleted and taken off the shelves to a point where some record collectors are willing to pay fortunes for these pressings. In 2003, a copy of The Beach Boys Greatest Hits sold for just over $2,500." Wowzers! Does anyone here have one of these? What tracks does it contain? yeah, ya know what, I call bullshit. Let's see some proof, from anyone/anywhere, that this isn't simply a made for wiki joke. Oh! I really want to see the $4000 James Bond LP!!! I'd never heard of this release before, and bgas if you've never heard nor seen one of these and are calling BS, then I've gotta agree that it's BS. And, there is no reference on the Wikipedia page to back up this claim. Plus the price seems outrageous for a budget label release with, presumably, nothing to make it notable other than the fact that it was pressed on thick vinyl (and historically thick vinyl found it's way into many non-audiophile LP releasees). And Pickwick putting out "audiophile" recordings? If that ever happened (doubtful) perhaps it's plausible that if they were low quality they could have been quickly deleted from the catalog, but "taken off the shelves" too? Just because some audiophile found them to be noisy? I agree, the whole thing sounds like BS. And after having said that, perhaps next up - Lee Dempsey will post a photo of his copy. Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: kookadams on February 07, 2015, 11:11:19 PM Little Deuce Coupe was not their first great album, Surfer Girl was.
Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 07, 2015, 11:26:52 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. Thanks, I believe I have seen all of the above. High Water was just Good Vibrations and Wow! Great Concert repackaged as a double album, seems like a girlfriend had that one. Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Custom Machine on February 07, 2015, 11:44:22 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Thanks, I believe I have seen all of the above. High Water was just Good Vibrations and Wow! Great Concert repackaged as a double album, seems like a girlfriend had that one. Oh, wow, it's been so many years (actually decades) since I last listened to High Water that I didn't even remember that! Title: Re: The Little Deuce Coupe Album Post by: Lonely Summer on February 08, 2015, 01:47:49 PM The Beach Boys material didn't hit Pickwick until 1970, after their contract with Capitol had expired and the original BBs Capitol catalog was deleted. The same month the first BBs Pickwick album appeared Capitol began a series of reissues, starting with the All Summer Long / California Girls two-fer, deleting one song from each side of the original albums. Checking my collection, and using release dates from Brad Elliot's Surf's Up! The Beach Boys on Record 1961-1981, Pickwick released the following BB albums: The Beach Boys, 7-1-70, Pickwick SPC-3221 Good Vibrations, 2-22-71, Pickwick SPC-3269 (Has a "A" on the shrink wrap, with the "A" category being the least expensive records sold at that particular store.) Wow! Great Concert!, 7-31-72, Pickwick SPC-3309 (This one is not in my collection. Never bought it, as the cover looked too bizarre and 4 of the live songs from the original album are missing.) High Water (2 record set), 4-30-73, Pickwick PTP-2059 Surfer Girl, 6-4-73, Pickwick SPC-3351 (Another "A" on the shrink wrap.) Little Deuce Coupe, 11-17-76, Pickwick SPC-3562. Corrections and/or additions welcome, as it's quite possible there were others I didn't buy or notice during my quick perusal of Brad Elliot's Surf's Up book. Interesting Wikipedia articles on Pickwick Records and Budget Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickwick_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_album Thanks, I believe I have seen all of the above. High Water was just Good Vibrations and Wow! Great Concert repackaged as a double album, seems like a girlfriend had that one. Oh, wow, it's been so many years (actually decades) since I last listened to High Water that I didn't even remember that! |