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Title: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: runalot on May 30, 2006, 04:46:57 PM
Interesting read. I think the writer is as lost as Brian was (in those days). Enjoy.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/beach_boys.htm

P.S. Sorry I haven't been around (been very busy since I've moved), but I lurk here and there for sure! =)

(like any of you guys care! LOL)

Oh yeah, anyone know where I can get Nick Kent's FULL "Dark Stuff" Article on Brian Wilson/Beach Boys? I went to two bookstores to try and look for it (with no luck), so, I tried. I just don't want to order it online. Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Ebb and Flow on May 30, 2006, 05:04:40 PM
Man that's crazy sh*t.  I think that anybody who sees Brian as evil, especially Pet Sounds era, is fucking insane.

And you'd think in an essay about how The Beach Boys are satanists they'd pull out the Manson card at least once.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Reverend Joshua Sloane on May 30, 2006, 05:42:27 PM
The author of that website is the kind of person who would've gladly burned "witches" back a few hundred years ago. Such a time was not very long ago and we have many more centuries to go before those kind of people realize the error of their ways. If those people produced the majority of thought then every autistic child born would be simply a child inhabited by demons. The Devil is a very childish concept to mine eyes; something akin to the boogey-man or Boo Radley's mythic persona.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: NimrodsSon on May 30, 2006, 06:30:35 PM
Are those quotes from Phil Spector's kids legitimate?


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Jeff Mason on May 30, 2006, 06:40:16 PM
Heavy sigh.

I had hoped that that sort of nonsense ended in the 80's.  Obviously not.

Folks, I can promise you that plenty of Christians recognize that God speaks through Brian Wilson's music and do not buy this garbage.

The whole Pet Sounds (and RAM??) cover thing is a new one.  I will have to remember that.  I think that paranoid people get drawn to the fringes of Christianity for some reason.

PLEASE disregard this when considering the truth value of Christianity.  This site is goofy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Reverend Joshua Sloane on May 30, 2006, 06:45:07 PM
Heavy sigh.

I had hoped that that sort of nonsense ended in the 80's.  Obviously not.

Folks, I can promise you that plenty of Christians recognize that God speaks through Brian Wilson's music and do not buy this garbage.

The whole Pet Sounds (and RAM??) cover thing is a new one.  I will have to remember that.  I think that paranoid people get drawn to the fringes of Christianity for some reason.

PLEASE disregard this when considering the truth value of Christianity.  This site is goofy.

Hearing the opening to "You Still Believe In Me" dispells any of the things that site claims. Though, on the sessions for that intro, Tony plucks out a pretty demonic set of notes.  >:D


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: punkinhead on May 30, 2006, 07:22:32 PM
that's a whole load of crap. i am (try to be) a born again Christian and I just think that article is giving a bad name for Christians. Look at the tribute to BW (Makin' God SMiLE)---those Christian artists were embracing his music....that quote from Dark Stuff, though I havn't read it...it still seems to be a little bit of crap as well...I mean, we've heard those songs from that era...it wasn't withcraft at all...that author kept using that quote over & over again...i didnt even read the rest of the article...did he mention their TM embrace?

on the subject...had a dream last nite i saw Brian and i sang part of the backup vocals of Wonderful (that weren't released) and for some reason i asked what song it was even though i knew what it was


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Jardine Power! on May 30, 2006, 07:30:41 PM
Ridiculous. I'm sick of these lunatics that give Christians and Christianity a bad name.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: the captain on May 30, 2006, 08:23:03 PM
[Message deleted]

I decided not to get into this topic after all.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Reverend Joshua Sloane on May 30, 2006, 08:29:28 PM
They hardly did their homework on the BBoys article. They conveniently left out all of the pro-God quotes from the guys. Like behind the song God Only Knows the prayers that went along with the session hand in hand. Or the fact that in 1966 Brian was very spiritual and spoke of God positively. Maybe Brian's doubt to the existance to God came from the fact that most of has family has passed away.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: punkinhead on May 30, 2006, 09:18:23 PM
good points, and my post above is all i'm goin to say...


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 30, 2006, 09:21:34 PM
I surely hope this was done as a joke. If not...ah heck...I still laughed my ass off...


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: matt-zeus on May 31, 2006, 03:22:09 AM
The real music that should be demonized is the Pop Idol/American Idol crap thats been clogging up the charts these last few years. Thats the devils music in my opinion - music without soul!


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: runalot on May 31, 2006, 11:00:35 AM
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Hearing the opening to "You Still Believe In Me" dispells any of the things that site claims. Though, on the sessions for that intro, Tony plucks out a pretty demonic set of notes. 

LOL!


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: donald on May 31, 2006, 01:06:02 PM
The mentally ill are often drawn to some sort of religion as they seek to make sense of that which makes no sense.  The paranoid and the psychotic are able to make sense of their world by attributing strange subjective experiences to some otherworldly entity.   Religous delusions are very common in the state hospitals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: shelter on May 31, 2006, 01:10:39 PM
This is just so over the top that I refuse to believe it's real.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Aegir on May 31, 2006, 01:48:29 PM
This is just so over the top that I refuse to believe it's real.
That's what I thought about that one Mike Love interview.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: SG7 on May 31, 2006, 02:18:16 PM
My church is like that guy  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: the captain on May 31, 2006, 02:24:20 PM
My church is like that guy  ::)


I hope you mean Mike Love, not the author of the story. Because that church would be hilarious. I'd probably even attend.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Ron on May 31, 2006, 02:25:17 PM
Quote of the year:

"Obviously, Wilson is NOT a born again Christian; but, rather, is a child of Satan"



How in the hell do you make that jump?  I could see some nut saying "Obviously, Wilson is NOT a born again Christian; but, rather, a confused soul", or ";but, rather, an opportunist" or whatever they want to claim, but to jump all the way from Born Again Christian to Child Of Satan is kind of stretching it, lol.  


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: the captain on May 31, 2006, 02:27:31 PM
What I don't like is (among many other aspects of this sh*t), when did Brian CLAIM to be a born again Christian?

"Obviously, Luther isn't an NBA player; but rather, is a pudgy writer/editor!"

Well, yep.



Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: I. Spaceman on May 31, 2006, 02:31:50 PM
Quote of the year:

"Obviously, Wilson is NOT a born again Christian; but, rather, is a child of Satan"



How in the hell do you make that jump?  I could see some nut saying "Obviously, Wilson is NOT a born again Christian; but, rather, a confused soul", or ";but, rather, an opportunist" or whatever they want to claim, but to jump all the way from Born Again Christian to Child Of Satan is kind of stretching it, lol.  

You've heard Smart Girls? Child of Satan might not be stretching too far in that light.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Ron on May 31, 2006, 02:32:14 PM
Well, watch it now Luther... you probably could find a quote somewhere of Brian claiming to be a christian, or a born-again christian even... because Brian Wilson basically will say whatever the hell he feels like whenever the hell he feels like even if he contradicts something he might have said two minutes ago.  

I met Brian one time, he was walking out of Taco Bell.  I said, 'Hi Brian, I didn't know you eat at Taco Bell" and he said "I've never been there, where is that?"


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: SG7 on May 31, 2006, 02:34:22 PM
Wow... that is a story  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Lorenschwartz on May 31, 2006, 02:37:11 PM
The real music that should be demonized is the Pop Idol/American Idol crap thats been clogging up the charts these last few years. Thats the devils music in my opinion - music without soul!
A Men


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: donald on May 31, 2006, 03:02:36 PM
This guy sounds like Pat Robertson trying to analyze SMiLE.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: JRauch on June 01, 2006, 03:25:57 AM
That "essay" is by far the dumbest thing I have ever read. BY FAR!

I shacked my head in disbelief, when he attacked Brian because Brian doesnīt know if there is a God (thatīs something he has in common with about 6 billion other people, btw).


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: JRauch on June 01, 2006, 03:27:21 AM
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Ridiculous. I'm sick of these lunatics that give Christians and Christianity a bad name.

 :D He even gives a bad name to paranoid weirdos.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: James Hughes-Clarke on June 01, 2006, 03:41:28 AM
The message is simple, Wilson.  Don't upset the all merciful and loving Lord.....OR HE'LL BURN YOU IN HELL!!!!

 >:D :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: PMcC on June 01, 2006, 03:49:05 PM
 

I met Brian one time, he was walking out of Taco Bell.  I said, 'Hi Brian, I didn't know you eat at Taco Bell" and he said "I've never been there, where is that?"

THAT is funny as H*E*L.....Can you imagine how many people have a similar story of a Brian encounter?


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Susan on June 02, 2006, 05:24:04 AM
Quote of the year:

"Obviously, Wilson is NOT a born again Christian; but, rather, is a child of Satan"

...to jump all the way from Born Again Christian to Child Of Satan is kind of stretching it, lol.  

You've heard Smart Girls? Child of Satan might not be stretching too far in that light.

Aw, c'mon, Ian - it's not THAT bad!  *G*


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: JRauch on June 03, 2006, 07:05:45 AM
I was never REALLY sure about "Smart Girl". Did Brian seriously try to make a rap-song or was it always meant as a joke? Because if it was serious, it sucks big time. But Iīd be a great success as a comic-track. Thereīs a big difference, you know?


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: the captain on June 03, 2006, 07:10:09 AM
I believe it was very tongue-in-cheek. And I always have gotten a kick out of it, to be honest. So I guess I'm a child of satan, too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Aegir on June 03, 2006, 10:57:31 AM
Well, he went on Dr. Demento with it.. I doubt it was serious.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: carlydenise on June 03, 2006, 11:49:13 AM
oh..my....gosh ??? :( >:(

These people are insane.......BB evil?  Man, if they are evil and their music is evil, there is absolutely no hope whatsoever for me then....
Carly


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: PMcC on June 03, 2006, 06:14:48 PM
"Smart Girls" --tongue in cheek, Dr. Demento or not. Gotta be. People laugh all the way thru that silly thing.
  Brian or his music satanic? Those are foreign concepts to me, who always associated BW's music with the upbeat mood of a breezy summer day, surf, fun, and buckets of optimism. The cascading harmonies alone would put him on the short list to direct a heavenly choir, so I will not entertain any further thoughts about Brian and his Satanic music...simply the musings from the fingertips of people bored with everything else around them..IMO


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: CosmicDancer on June 06, 2006, 06:36:31 AM
So how much do you want to bet this guy is holed up in some bunker underneath his tiny backwoods church today (6-6-06) hiding from satan who is surely going to surface on earth to rule over this filthy immoral world on this oh so EVIL day? 

I am pretty sure that, if played backwards, Matchpoint Of Our Love, the most satanic of all Beach Boys songs, say that 6-6-06 will be the day that satan comes to torture the world.  Or was it on TM Song from 15 Big Ones?


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: PMcC on June 06, 2006, 09:33:49 AM
......although the 'swedish frog' section of Heroes and Villains DOES sound quite devilish...


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: Lorenschwartz on June 06, 2006, 10:27:39 AM
So how much do you want to bet this guy is holed up in some bunker underneath his tiny backwoods church today (6-6-06) hiding from satan who is surely going to surface on earth to rule over this filthy immoral world on this oh so EVIL day? 

I am pretty sure that, if played backwards, Matchpoint Of Our Love, the most satanic of all Beach Boys songs, say that 6-6-06 will be the day that satan comes to torture the world.  Or was it on TM Song from 15 Big Ones?
i'd be mindful when you start insulting or denigrating someones backwoods church here in Our country...its already presumed this pastor or whatever is a bit Extreme, however i think the religion of Islam is damn extreme, and in 2006 the USA seems to cower and cater to all "secular" shows of "religion" & "worship", just as long as you don't get too heavy with prosylitizing or taking wat u believe too seriously, my God our country can be wonderful, but most of the time we are so limp wristed...isn't it funny how all these Shriners and Masons march around wearing their symbols which clearly have Egyptian and Islamic ties, and just laugh at them and love them cause they drive funny little cars and they're old men with thier stupid poobah hats and have free medical hospitals for crippled children and the poor? come on everyone, Muslim nations have declared Death to America! many times and we are in Iraq to defend these same people and the new Afgan constitution even reads that Islam tenant are the supreme law, and they will not water it down in their "newly formed" government and "constitution".
Lets ask the tough questions to Mr. Bush

what is it about "reilgion" that our government is not telling us!!!!
...thank you for lettin' me vent on 6/06/06!!!

Ps.- the TM song really does have a backmasked message,
       start at the end of Al speaking "Whew, its time for me to meditate!"

im joking


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: SG7 on June 06, 2006, 05:26:29 PM
Aw shucks Brian's concert at his house is now cancelled...



Does the movie "Seconds" and today have something in common  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: donald on June 07, 2006, 01:33:31 PM
If you play Ding Dang backward it says:

gnid gnad gnid dna  a gnid gnad


I think they were trying to tell us something.


Be afraid.  Be very afraid.


Title: Re: Beach Boys and 666
Post by: uk hound dog on June 08, 2006, 04:46:25 PM
I read a bit of it and thought it was a bit poo. Have you seen the BBs-are-nazis surfin usa thing on you tube. That's worse.