Title: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 28, 2014, 10:17:43 PM https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMikeLove/photos/a.249407895138059.60323.125419450870238/716967555048755/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: The Shift on September 29, 2014, 12:11:46 AM I wonder if the five will ever share a stage again prior to the London Pet Sounds 50th gigs? And then maybe Blondie could do the lead on Sloop John B…
;) Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Cam Mott on September 29, 2014, 09:29:51 AM This is Dave's "big FU" post coming in 3....2.....
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Niko on September 29, 2014, 09:36:04 AM This is Dave's "big FU" post coming in 3....2..... If you're drawing a comparison between Jeff leaving Brian's band and Dave doing a couple gigs with the M&B band like he has been doing regularly for the past year, I think you're a bit off. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on September 29, 2014, 09:59:18 AM This is Dave's "big FU" post coming in 3....2..... Except…. Dave has been playing random shows with Mike’s band for years, before and after C50. He has also never been Brian’s “right hand man.” Dave also still plays gigs with Al when they’re both booked with the “Surf City All Stars.” He also has seemed to be very clear during his entire tenure in and out of the group since the late 90’s that he has no axe to grind with any of the “factions.” He’s one of the only guys who I actually believe wouldn’t and doesn’t have an ulterior motive in playing with one band or the other, other than to just show up and play. As Marks’ own book (with Jon Stebbins) explains, that doesn’t mean others don’t have ulterior motives in getting him to play or join up. If any “F U” were ever involved in getting David Marks to play a gig, the “F U” would likely be coming from someone other than David. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on September 29, 2014, 10:06:31 AM No one is saying any curse words to anyone. Rather, as I see it, all the BB are trying to find their way and to comprehend what "together" can possibly mean in the here and now. What will Al think of this? It will likely make him tall Brian and Make that "we got to do something together."
So I hope. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Lowbacca on September 29, 2014, 10:08:11 AM This is Dave's "big FU" post coming in 3....2..... (http://oi60.tinypic.com/21es4rs.jpg)Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: LostArt on September 29, 2014, 10:10:36 AM No one is saying any curse words to anyone. Rather, as I see it, all the BB are trying to find their way and to comprehend what "together" can possibly mean in the here and now. What will Al think of this? It will likely make him tall I don't think so. :lol Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Mikie on September 29, 2014, 10:23:50 AM This is Dave's "big FU" post coming in 3....2..... E He also has seemed to be very clear during his entire tenure in and out of the group since the late 90’s that he has no axe to grind with any of the “factions.” He’s one of the only guys who I actually believe wouldn’t and doesn’t have an ulterior motive in playing with one band or the other, other than to just show up and play. Of course he doesn't! And even if he does, if he wants to play a few gigs with Mike and/or Brian and Al, he's going to stay neutral and keep any negative feelings he has to himself! If you're outspoken, you take a chance in compromising a spot in the band! Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Mikie on September 29, 2014, 10:26:51 AM I say good for Mike with this move to include Dave! :)
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Niko on September 29, 2014, 10:38:22 AM It would be great if they all acted more like Dave. More mixing and matching between members would be cool - just because there isn't going to be another reunion tour doesn't mean the whole band couldn't share the stage again, and we already saw Al, Bruce, Mike and Dave share the stage at Mike's Ella award ceremony.
Seems like there's no chance of this happening though :( Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Lowbacca on September 29, 2014, 10:43:49 AM It would be great if they all acted more like Dave. More mixing and matching between members would be cool - just because there isn't going to be another reunion tour doesn't mean the whole band couldn't share the stage again, and we already saw Al, Bruce, Mike and Dave share the stage at Mike's Ella award ceremony. They're all corks on the ocean.. Perhaps they'll drift back together someday. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NyviD3PR8)Seems like there's no chance of this happening though :( Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Shady on September 29, 2014, 04:20:20 PM Dave should start turning down these invites and demand a full time gig.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 29, 2014, 04:54:30 PM Why? He's just there to rock the sh*t out of the guitar, not to get involved with band politics.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the captain on September 29, 2014, 05:01:52 PM Demanding a full-time gig seems like a questionable choice, in that he'd probably be turned down. And besides, this way he can play with whoever he wants. I think one of the most beautiful parts of the story of David Marks is that in recent years, he is the one guy who can show up anywhere, with anyone, and not have it be some story. He's an authentic link to any BBs-related group, sure, but mostly he's a fucking great guitarist and wonderful addition to the bands.
Realistically, the traveling Beach Boys might not want to pay what another original member might be worth for however-many shows a year are worth; and conversely, the increasingly infrequent BW shows might not cut it either. (Not to mention they aren't especially guitar-friendly.) I say good for Dave to do whatever he wants, with whoever he wants. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: tpesky on September 29, 2014, 06:43:21 PM Mike's counter move to Brian and Al getting to sing at the George Harrison fest when he wrote the tribute song!
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: lee on September 29, 2014, 07:32:27 PM It's great to see an actual Beach Boy play some leads on an instrument at a live show. Hopefully Mike will give Dave some vocal leads (Getcha Back, Do You Wanna Dance and maybe Forever).
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Kurosawa on September 30, 2014, 12:26:16 AM Dave also probably has a little gratitude towards Mike for grabbing him that time he almost fell off a balcony as a kid.
Dave is the most mature guy of the bunch in a lot of ways, it seems. Ironic that he is also the youngest. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: cablegeddon on September 30, 2014, 02:21:02 PM No one is saying any curse words to anyone. Rather, as I see it, all the BB are trying to find their way and to comprehend what "together" can possibly mean in the here and now. What will Al think of this? It will likely make him tall Brian and Make that "we got to do something together." hey kofi annan. Why dont you shut the F up already and retire?So I hope. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 30, 2014, 06:05:56 PM Dave also probably has a little gratitude towards Mike for grabbing him that time he almost fell off a balcony as a kid. Dave is the most mature guy of the bunch in a lot of ways, it seems. Ironic that he is also the youngest. I think it makes sense. He left the band before they became superstars so there was never any big fame or money to get to his head the way it might have hit the other guys. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: smile-holland on October 01, 2014, 12:16:38 AM No one is saying any curse words to anyone. Rather, as I see it, all the BB are trying to find their way and to comprehend what "together" can possibly mean in the here and now. What will Al think of this? It will likely make him tall Brian and Make that "we got to do something together." hey kofi annan. Why dont you shut the F up already and retire?So I hope. Unnecessary and unwanted reply, cablegeddon. Please stop this kind behaviour. Official warning. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Cam Mott on October 01, 2014, 09:49:18 AM Mike's counter move to Brian and Al getting to sing at the George Harrison fest when he wrote the tribute song! Mike's "big FU" to George Harrison and his Fest. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: John Stivaktas on October 01, 2014, 10:05:36 PM I'm speaking from a musician's point of view here, but after seeing the beach Boys on their C50 tour in Sydney in 2012, I concluded two things...
1) The Beach Boys show was professional and great entertainment value for the cost of my ticket ($AU 250) 2) Some of the musicians were outstanding, especially the drummer John Cowsill and David Marks, not to mention Scott Totten, Darian Sahanaja and Probyn Gregory. I think David Marks is the most talented guitarist within the original Beach Boys, I understand why Carl wanted him around in the early days. I'm currently reading Brad Tolinski's book, 'Light & Shade: conversations with Jimmy Page' and in it Page talks about how a mentor told him early on the importance of practice, practice, practice and especially the idea of the need to try things that a little beyond you so that you can get better. I can't help but feel that musically David was like this from a very early age, Carl had the same attitude in his late teens, whereas Brian took this a whole step further by applying it to his production methods during the mid-sixties. Going back to Dave, I like him a lot overall as a person. He could have been bitter about how things turned out, but when he got his chance to play again he did a great job. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 02, 2014, 02:33:46 PM David is a serious asset to any version of a Beach Boys touring band he can be part of. Unlike the others, his musicianship and instrumental capabilities have improved over these fifty years.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 02, 2014, 02:42:17 PM Note something about Dave: for the 50th reunion shows he played his old parts, Carl's parts, and the parts played by studio players on any number of songs he had never played before. Nor did he simply play the "old parts," for he played freely and meaningfully with classic breaks and solos and added some monster stuff in great places, as in Little Honda and Barbara Ann. Love his Pet Sounds as well. I think the Professor once said "David Marks IS the reunion," and I have to agree.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Pretty Funky on October 02, 2014, 02:59:46 PM True that. Loved his 'Sail On Sailor' myself.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Gohi on October 02, 2014, 03:26:19 PM I think the Professor once said "David Marks IS the reunion," and I have to agree. Glad to hear you agree with yourself, professor! Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 02, 2014, 03:26:56 PM Post of the day! :lol
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Alex on October 02, 2014, 05:32:55 PM Dave was THE highlight of the lone C50 show I went to! (Well, Cowsill also. Just needed to replace Bruce with Blondie, bring Carl and Dennis back from the dead, reinstate Jack Reiley...)
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: wantsomecorn on October 06, 2014, 12:18:52 PM Mike just updated his facebook, apparently Dave will be playing with him through the 18th.
Also, yesterday's show had guest appearances from none other than Billy Hinsche and Mike D'Amico! Imagine that - members from both Al and Brian's solo bands onstage with Mike, Bruce, and Dave at the same time. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 06, 2014, 01:52:41 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish.
http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 06, 2014, 02:07:00 PM That is a lot of guys to change around for the same worn-out setlist M&B have been doing since Reagan was president. ;)
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Lowbacca on October 06, 2014, 02:08:43 PM Quote from: the prof The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone [...] (http://oi61.tinypic.com/256flax.jpg) Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: rab2591 on October 06, 2014, 02:10:46 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road!
The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: The Shift on October 06, 2014, 02:30:54 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Real eye-opener - M&B playing more post-'60s songs than B&A… and having five faces from C50's front row (inc Jeff & Scott) compared to B&A's two. Not that anyone's keeping count… Is there a statistician in the house! Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: wantsomecorn on October 06, 2014, 02:37:34 PM Following up on what John said, M+B did eight post 60s songs last night (including two covers) to Brian's three (including Cottonfields).
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 06, 2014, 02:40:57 PM As the great poem states: "They crowd the stage with countless hordes / while the ones they love are not in sight."
Quote from: the prof The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone [...] (http://oi61.tinypic.com/256flax.jpg) Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 06, 2014, 02:54:40 PM I don't think there is much love lost between BW and Mike these days.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Lowbacca on October 06, 2014, 02:59:26 PM As the great poem states: "They crowd the stage with countless hoards / while the ones they love are not in sight." (http://oi57.tinypic.com/29vgoy8.jpg)Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: ontor pertawst on October 06, 2014, 03:01:50 PM That poem only makes sense if you recite it while driving on the PCH apparently.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Nicko1234 on October 06, 2014, 03:57:06 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road! Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Absolutely. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:09:20 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ I'm not going to knock the guy writing this article for comparing Mike's band to Brian's (that occurs on this board ad nauseam), but *if* you're going to compare the bands, it's kind of an assclown move to not even mention the 50th anniversary tour or the fact that Brian and Al wanted to keep the entire band together. Had they had their way, this guy wouldn't have had two bands to compare. Kind of odd that he also bills David Marks as being of Dean's "Surf City All Stars." Yes, I know Dave plays with that band. But it would be like Ringo adding Paul McCartney to his show and mentioning "Paul McCartney, late of Wings." Much like the olden days of comparing Mike's band to Al's (you know, back when Al had a band that toured), to compare Mike's show (setlist or otherwise) to Brian is a bit pointless, as Brian has played four of five shows this year. That's one of the primary reasons he's doing the "meat and potatoes" numbers. Once you get on tour and are constantly playing and rehearsing and doing soundchecks, that's when it's far easier to vary the setlist. They aren't rehearsing for a week or two leading up to these one-off Brian shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they maybe do a rehearsal the day before and not much more (heck, maybe they even just use the soundcheck as their rehearsal). Maybe they're working on the side beforehand with the new falsetto guy, I dunno. The same thing happened when Al toured. By 2000 (and 1999 to some degree), he was doing such scattered shows that when he would get his musicians together, they ended up pounding out the common tunes because that's what they all know. When Brian did one mini-tour and then one tour with Beck that was still short but what I would deem at least a full "tour", here are songs that were rotated in and out in 2013: Break Away Girl Don’t Tell Me Old Man River Little Bird Summertime Blues Your Imagination Goin’ Home That’s Why God Made the Radio Summer’s Gone Let Him Run Wild She Knows Me Too Well Custom Machine This Car of Mine Monster Mash Forever Wild Honey Plenty of interesting stuff there, and that was what they did when most of the dates were short, approx. hour-long sets with Beck. If or when Brian does a *real* tour (as in four to eight weeks or more, 15-30 shows or more), I think we'll probably see his setlist get more interesting. Oh yeah, and stating the obvious and taking the bait here, but I think Mike needs to make the call. Everybody else is (or at least was) willing to get the whole thing back together (keep it together rather). Jardine *still* says in interviews he wants the full reunited band to work together, even when doing press for his gigs with Brian. Mike has not stated this preference since 2012. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:14:01 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road! Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Absolutely. This makes sense. But if they were tense and irritated on C50, it produced a hell of a product. If they could just agree to a firm plan (with good PR skills behind it), as selfish as it sounds, if they can do another tour like C50, I don't mind too much if there's a bit of tension and irritation behind the scenes. That's *always* going to be there. Some of these guys, based on public and private anecdotes, kind of just don't like each other much. But they make magic with that reunion show. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Nicko1234 on October 06, 2014, 04:17:19 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ I'm not going to knock the guy writing this article for comparing Mike's band to Brian's (that occurs on this board ad nauseam), but *if* you're going to compare the bands, it's kind of an assclown move to not even mention the 50th anniversary tour or the fact that Brian and Al wanted to keep the entire band together. Had they had their way, this guy wouldn't have had two bands to compare. Kind of odd that he also bills David Marks as being of Dean's "Surf City All Stars." Yes, I know Dave plays with that band. But it would be like Ringo adding Paul McCartney to his show and mentioning "Paul McCartney, late of Wings." Much like the olden days of comparing Mike's band to Al's (you know, back when Al had a band that toured), to compare Mike's show (setlist or otherwise) to Brian is a bit pointless, as Brian has played four of five shows this year. That's one of the primary reasons he's doing the "meat and potatoes" numbers. Once you get on tour and are constantly playing and rehearsing and doing soundchecks, that's when it's far easier to vary the setlist. They aren't rehearsing for a week or two leading up to these one-off Brian shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they maybe do a rehearsal the day before and not much more (heck, maybe they even just use the soundcheck as their rehearsal). Maybe they're working on the side beforehand with the new falsetto guy, I dunno. The same thing happened when Al toured. By 2000 (and 1999 to some degree), he was doing such scattered shows that when he would get his musicians together, they ended up pounding out the common tunes because that's what they all know. When Brian did one mini-tour and then one tour with Beck that was still short but what I would deem at least a full "tour", here are songs that were rotated in and out in 2013: Break Away Girl Don’t Tell Me Old Man River Little Bird Summertime Blues Your Imagination Goin’ Home That’s Why God Made the Radio Summer’s Gone Let Him Run Wild She Knows Me Too Well Custom Machine This Car of Mine Monster Mash Forever Wild Honey Plenty of interesting stuff there, and that was what they did when most of the dates were short, approx. hour-long sets with Beck. If or when Brian does a *real* tour (as in four to eight weeks or more, 15-30 shows or more), I think we'll probably see his setlist get more interesting. Oh yeah, and stating the obvious and taking the bait here, but I think Mike needs to make the call. Everybody else is (or at least was) willing to get the whole thing back together (keep it together rather). Jardine *still* says in interviews he wants the full reunited band to work together, even when doing press for his gigs with Brian. Mike has not stated this preference since 2012. The guy was understandably talking about the 2 shows that he had seen this year and was positive about both of them. If he goes to see another show when Brian adds some more rarities to the set then obviously he will give a different review. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:24:46 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ I'm not going to knock the guy writing this article for comparing Mike's band to Brian's (that occurs on this board ad nauseam), but *if* you're going to compare the bands, it's kind of an assclown move to not even mention the 50th anniversary tour or the fact that Brian and Al wanted to keep the entire band together. Had they had their way, this guy wouldn't have had two bands to compare. Kind of odd that he also bills David Marks as being of Dean's "Surf City All Stars." Yes, I know Dave plays with that band. But it would be like Ringo adding Paul McCartney to his show and mentioning "Paul McCartney, late of Wings." Much like the olden days of comparing Mike's band to Al's (you know, back when Al had a band that toured), to compare Mike's show (setlist or otherwise) to Brian is a bit pointless, as Brian has played four of five shows this year. That's one of the primary reasons he's doing the "meat and potatoes" numbers. Once you get on tour and are constantly playing and rehearsing and doing soundchecks, that's when it's far easier to vary the setlist. They aren't rehearsing for a week or two leading up to these one-off Brian shows. I wouldn't be surprised if they maybe do a rehearsal the day before and not much more (heck, maybe they even just use the soundcheck as their rehearsal). Maybe they're working on the side beforehand with the new falsetto guy, I dunno. The same thing happened when Al toured. By 2000 (and 1999 to some degree), he was doing such scattered shows that when he would get his musicians together, they ended up pounding out the common tunes because that's what they all know. When Brian did one mini-tour and then one tour with Beck that was still short but what I would deem at least a full "tour", here are songs that were rotated in and out in 2013: Break Away Girl Don’t Tell Me Old Man River Little Bird Summertime Blues Your Imagination Goin’ Home That’s Why God Made the Radio Summer’s Gone Let Him Run Wild She Knows Me Too Well Custom Machine This Car of Mine Monster Mash Forever Wild Honey Plenty of interesting stuff there, and that was what they did when most of the dates were short, approx. hour-long sets with Beck. If or when Brian does a *real* tour (as in four to eight weeks or more, 15-30 shows or more), I think we'll probably see his setlist get more interesting. Oh yeah, and stating the obvious and taking the bait here, but I think Mike needs to make the call. Everybody else is (or at least was) willing to get the whole thing back together (keep it together rather). Jardine *still* says in interviews he wants the full reunited band to work together, even when doing press for his gigs with Brian. Mike has not stated this preference since 2012. The guy was understandably talking about the 2 shows that he had seen this year and was positive about both of them. If he goes to see another show when Brian adds some more rarities to the set then obviously he will give a different review. The review just read like a sort of sunshiney ESQ-style review. It has been two years since the end of C50, so I understand reviews that don't still dredge all that stuff up. But when you're comparing the two shows, and writing lines like THIS: Young Scott Totten is their music director, but Marks, Love, Johnston and Foskett stood beside him on the front line like a musical Mt. Rushmore, re-affirming the band’s legacy even without Wilson and Alan Jardine along for the ride. without even mentioning one thing about the reunion tour, and specifically that Wilson and Jardine wanted to continue to play with Love, Marks, and Johnston; in other words, it's Love's choice to not play with a willing Jardine and Wilson, and also fail to mention that Love has played probably around 100 shows this year while Wilson and Jardine effectively aren't even "touring" so to speak, it just seems like a bit of a hack job. Stylistically the writing is fine. Perhaps not coincidentally, Mike himself has touted this article (and the Rushmore comment) on his own Facebook page. Perhaps that wouldn't have occurred had the writer mentioned that Love chose to tour without several willing founding members. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: startBBtoday on October 06, 2014, 04:38:35 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Kind of odd that he also bills David Marks as being of Dean's "Surf City All Stars." Yes, I know Dave plays with that band. But it would be like Ringo adding Paul McCartney to his show and mentioning "Paul McCartney, late of Wings." 1. He calls David Marks an early Beach Boys member in the same sentence, so I'm not sure why this is an issue. 2. He mentions the Surf City All-Stars as a segue because he had just mentioned Dean. 3. David Marks is not the equivalent of Paul McCartney. 4. Therefore it would be a lot more mentioning that Pete Best had also played with Lee Curtis & The All Stars. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: startBBtoday on October 06, 2014, 04:44:26 PM Since Mike D'Amico only sat in with Mike, is that more of a 'screw you' to Brian and Melinda? Not quite an 'eff you?'
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:46:38 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Kind of odd that he also bills David Marks as being of Dean's "Surf City All Stars." Yes, I know Dave plays with that band. But it would be like Ringo adding Paul McCartney to his show and mentioning "Paul McCartney, late of Wings." 1. He calls David Marks an early Beach Boys member in the same sentence, so I'm not sure why this is an issue. 2. He mentions the Surf City All-Stars as a segue because he had just mentioned Dean. 3. David Marks is not the equivalent of Paul McCartney. 4. Therefore it would be a lot more mentioning that Pete Best had also played with Lee Curtis & The All Stars. Yes, all of this is true. I simply found it odd and amusing that a Beach Boy needed to be referenced any other way while being reviewed playing a Beach Boys concert. I also found it amusing that he's in the "Surf City All Stars" because he's a Beach Boy. It just seemed amusingly circular, that's all. Also, for what it's worth, a comparison to another example (McCartney/Wings) does not indicate that one is trying to equate the two, assuming by "equivalent" one means fame/notoriety/talent, etc. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: rab2591 on October 06, 2014, 04:47:55 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road! Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Absolutely. This makes sense. But if they were tense and irritated on C50, it produced a hell of a product. If they could just agree to a firm plan (with good PR skills behind it), as selfish as it sounds, if they can do another tour like C50, I don't mind too much if there's a bit of tension and irritation behind the scenes. That's *always* going to be there. Some of these guys, based on public and private anecdotes, kind of just don't like each other much. But they make magic with that reunion show. I fully welcome the idea of another tour and album. I guess, given that Mike couldn't even write with Brian during their last album I just don't see them as a "band" anymore - it seems like more of a bureaucratic nightmare. And thus I'm less enthusiastic about the idea of another reunion. The product they gave us was great, and I'd love for another dose of it, but if it doesn't happen I'm not losing sleep over it. I guess I just hope that certain posters here would be more thankful about what we're getting these days. That Mike and Bruce are out giving a good show to fans. That Brian is working his ass off recording some amazing tunes. That Al still has the voice he had back in the 60s. All these guys are in their 70s, and we should all be thankful for anything they give us instead of bitching about what they're not giving us. Just my two cents :-D Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:49:26 PM Since Mike D'Amico only sat in with Mike, is that more of a 'screw you' to Brian and Melinda? Not quite an 'eff you?' I somehow doubt these people care. Matt Jardine sat in with Mike's band last year at a gig, right in the midst of the post-C50 acrimony. I think one of either band's members sitting in for a few songs is taken differently by the leadership/management of the bands as compared to the Foskett situation. If D'Amico announced tomorrow that he had permanently joined Mike's band, I'd feel reasonably comfortable saying that yes, that would be another big "F U" on the part of someone, if not multiple folks. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: tpesky on October 06, 2014, 04:53:00 PM How much did Mike slip him for that article? That's like a Mount Rushmore of Calvin Coolidge, William H. Taft, Chester A. Arthur., and Grover Cleveland.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:56:38 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road! Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Absolutely. This makes sense. But if they were tense and irritated on C50, it produced a hell of a product. If they could just agree to a firm plan (with good PR skills behind it), as selfish as it sounds, if they can do another tour like C50, I don't mind too much if there's a bit of tension and irritation behind the scenes. That's *always* going to be there. Some of these guys, based on public and private anecdotes, kind of just don't like each other much. But they make magic with that reunion show. I fully welcome the idea of another tour and album. I guess, given that Mike couldn't even write with Brian during their last album I just don't see them as a "band" anymore - it seems like more of a bureaucratic nightmare. And thus I'm less enthusiastic about the idea of another reunion. The product they gave us was great, and I'd love for another dose of it, but if it doesn't happen I'm not losing sleep over it. I guess I just hope that certain posters here would be more thankful about what we're getting these days. That Mike and Bruce are out giving a good show to fans. That Brian is working his ass off recording some amazing tunes. That Al still has the voice he had back in the 60s. All these guys are in their 70s, and we should all be thankful for anything they give us instead of bitching about what they're not giving us. Just my two cents :-D As I've referenced elsewhere, some of what these guys are doing right now is exclusionary. That's what's troublesome. The only way we'll probably ever see Al Jardine on any sort of substantial tour before we all die is if they do another reunion tour. Some of this is Al's fault. He can't get something together in terms of solo work. One solo studio album and scattered tracks and live bookings. But Mike's show means no Al, in 2012/13 anyway. This is the rather nuanced point I've occasionally made that maybe nobody else agrees with me on. Pre-2012 was different. Brian didn't want to be a Beach Boys. Al may or may have not, depending on what year and who you ask. But Mike's tour wasn't touring in lieu of anything else. If he wasn't touring, nobody would be, under the BB name anyway. Setting aside getting stuck on the "moral" implications of using the BB name, I think a lot of stubborn, crusty fans cooled down about Mike touring under the BB name in the 2000's because it wasn't touring in place of a tangible, ready-to-go, willing alternative. Not so post-C50. That's the difference. Mike's putting on a good show, but it's a show he willingly put on in place of an even better show. The 2012 tour was a "holy s**t, this actually is better than most any tour since the early-mid 70's!" The 2014 Mike show is "wow, they sound really good; much better than they did in the late 90's and early 2000's." Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 04:57:57 PM How much did Mike slip him for that article? That's like a Mount Rushmore of Calvin Coolidge, William H. Taft, Chester A. Arthur., and Grover Cleveland. Praise us all that John Stamos wasn't at that show. What would the comparison have been then? I still say Brian's show should add Bob Saget to the lineup, just because...... Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Lowbacca on October 06, 2014, 04:59:18 PM [...] Imagine the foul-mouthed banter between the two. :-DI still say Brian's show should add Bob Saget to the lineup, just because...... Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 05:01:49 PM [...] Imagine the foul-mouthed banter between the two. :-DI still say Brian's show should add Bob Saget to the lineup, just because...... True. On the PS tour in 2000, Brian was in such a good mood that he yelled at the audience "how loud can you fu**in' yell?" I'm so very glad a recording of it exists, too! Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: rab2591 on October 06, 2014, 05:28:38 PM I'm glad Mike, Bruce, and David are having fun out on the road! Or, ya know, we could just let the guys do what they feel comfortable doing. While the "Beach Boys" are out expanding and flourishing, Brian is awaiting to release an album he's been working on for over a year now. I'm happy that all parties are staying positive and busy during this time. Would I like to see the guys get back together, tour, and make a new album? Sure. But if there is going to be the same tension and irritation that surrounded their last reunion, I'd rather they just stay apart and do their own things. Absolutely. This makes sense. But if they were tense and irritated on C50, it produced a hell of a product. If they could just agree to a firm plan (with good PR skills behind it), as selfish as it sounds, if they can do another tour like C50, I don't mind too much if there's a bit of tension and irritation behind the scenes. That's *always* going to be there. Some of these guys, based on public and private anecdotes, kind of just don't like each other much. But they make magic with that reunion show. I fully welcome the idea of another tour and album. I guess, given that Mike couldn't even write with Brian during their last album I just don't see them as a "band" anymore - it seems like more of a bureaucratic nightmare. And thus I'm less enthusiastic about the idea of another reunion. The product they gave us was great, and I'd love for another dose of it, but if it doesn't happen I'm not losing sleep over it. I guess I just hope that certain posters here would be more thankful about what we're getting these days. That Mike and Bruce are out giving a good show to fans. That Brian is working his ass off recording some amazing tunes. That Al still has the voice he had back in the 60s. All these guys are in their 70s, and we should all be thankful for anything they give us instead of bitching about what they're not giving us. Just my two cents :-D As I've referenced elsewhere, some of what these guys are doing right now is exclusionary. That's what's troublesome. The only way we'll probably ever see Al Jardine on any sort of substantial tour before we all die is if they do another reunion tour. Some of this is Al's fault. He can't get something together in terms of solo work. One solo studio album and scattered tracks and live bookings. But Mike's show means no Al, in 2012/13 anyway. This is the rather nuanced point I've occasionally made that maybe nobody else agrees with me on. Pre-2012 was different. Brian didn't want to be a Beach Boys. Al may or may have not, depending on what year and who you ask. But Mike's tour wasn't touring in lieu of anything else. If he wasn't touring, nobody would be, under the BB name anyway. Setting aside getting stuck on the "moral" implications of using the BB name, I think a lot of stubborn, crusty fans cooled down about Mike touring under the BB name in the 2000's because it wasn't touring in place of a tangible, ready-to-go, willing alternative. Not so post-C50. That's the difference. Mike's putting on a good show, but it's a show he willingly put on in place of an even better show. The 2012 tour was a "holy s**t, this actually is better than most any tour since the early-mid 70's!" The 2014 Mike show is "wow, they sound really good; much better than they did in the late 90's and early 2000's." It is indeed troublesome. And in light of all the exclusion since the C50 ended, it makes me wonder how good the chemistry would be on another reunion tour/album. Perhaps the guys don't really care about band chemistry, and perhaps it doesn't matter. They obviously put on a great show regardless of what they were feeling during the C50. But obviously there is still a lot of negativity there. If they do decide to reunite again, I'll be ecstatic. But for now I'm happy that Brian is still working/touring, that Al is recording, and Mike, Bruce, and Dave are still giving people fun memories. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2014, 05:35:31 PM Another obvious question concerns whether there are plans afoot to add Dave permanently to the band.
I would guess if it didn't affect overhead costs, he'd add Dave in a heartbeat. Perhaps there are some lingering issues going back to Dave's 97-99 tenure that would give them pause to make it permanent again (extended "guest spots" are easier to do, there's less pressure or baggage). On the other hand, there's literally no "competition" out there competing for "legitimacy" or bookings (which may or may not have anything to do with Al's recent comments about he and Brian being "under suspicion" concerning advertising their BB status). Mike doesn't need to add Dave back. Another interesting question: Would Dave join full time if asked? Who knows, maybe he doesn't want the grind of 100+ shows. I doubt D'Amico popping up for a few songs during a Mike show is some huge indicator of the possibility of another reunion project of some sort, but I guess I'll go ahead and still hope. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Niko on October 06, 2014, 06:15:38 PM I might not have seen the BBs in 1973, or the Before the Flood tour, or The Who play Quadrophenia - I wasn't alive to see those legendary shows. But I will always be able to say I saw a show from the C50 tour. Best musical experience of my life.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: guitarfool2002 on October 06, 2014, 06:37:34 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Reading that review, I had to double-check the web address to make sure I hadn't accidentally gone to the Beach Boys Britain board. ;) Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 06, 2014, 07:15:08 PM And they say the bloo is bad... :lol
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Ray Lawlor on October 06, 2014, 07:44:32 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Reading that review, I had to double-check the web address to make sure I hadn't accidentally gone to the Beach Boys Britain board. ;) I was going to point out several blatant inaccuracies in this article, but I figured I would leave it up to AGD , who has a real distaste for journalistic slovenliness, to tee this up, and then to tee off. Personally I think there is more of a chance of me getting a call from Diane Lane , asking me to go with her to Positano, than there is of Brian and Al making "that call". Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 06, 2014, 07:56:00 PM :lol
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: guitarfool2002 on October 06, 2014, 08:42:32 PM but Marks, Love, Johnston and Foskett stood beside him on the front line like a musical Mt. Rushmore, re-affirming the band’s legacy even without Wilson and Alan Jardine along for the ride.
I'm announcing a contest. All of the talented members of the board who do the Photoshop album cover parodies, the photo manipulations, etc...Create and post your visual interpretations of the "musical Mt. Rushmore" here, we'll decide on a winner, and you'll get a prize of some kind. I'm serious. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 06, 2014, 10:04:17 PM That's where I wrote it. The Ontor Pertawst has always understood the Professor so well. I can send along the other 8000 lines of the epic for whomever wants it. And no, in response to your many queries, it's not all in tetrameter.
And anyone who encourages us to be "appreciative" of "what we have now" with the BB as separate acts has no sense of epic grandeur. Do you not hear the call of history, with Apollo himself ready at the lyre? That poem only makes sense if you recite it while driving on the PCH apparently. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Custom Machine on October 06, 2014, 11:19:24 PM but Marks, Love, Johnston and Foskett stood beside him on the front line like a musical Mt. Rushmore, re-affirming the band’s legacy even without Wilson and Alan Jardine along for the ride. I'm announcing a contest. All of the talented members of the board who do the Photoshop album cover parodies, the photo manipulations, etc...Create and post your visual interpretations of the "musical Mt. Rushmore" here, we'll decide on a winner, and you'll get a prize of some kind. I'm serious. The big video screen behind the band at last night's concert in San Diego featured a photo of Mt. Rushmore with the names "Marks, Love, Johnston, and Foskett" under the faces of the presidents, with a square on the left below those names saying something about Scott Totten. Having not yet read the Desert Sun review, the graphic seemed odd and non-sensical to me, until fellow Smile Smile board member Eric Aniversario explained that it was an inside joke as a result of the Desert Sun review. And while on the subject of the video screen, it's really unfortunate that no easily identifiable large photos of Brian or Al appear, that being the result, as Eric reminded me, of a request on the part of Brian and Al. For that matter, I don't recall seeing any photos of David either, although there may have been a few, and some of the best photos with David in them would have also featured Brian. The photo/video segment that seemed really out of place to me was a series of a couple photos and a video of John Stamos, shown during Mike's intro to Be True to Your School, with Mike advising the audience that they were viewing photos and a video of John Stamos, who was born the same year the song was released. Maybe it's a place holder for when Stamos does appear and Mike jokes that he was dating Stamos' mother during that time. While I've defended Stamos' appearances with the M&B Beach Boys on this board, Mike making a big deal about Stamos when he isn't even present seems bizarre. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Custom Machine on October 06, 2014, 11:30:25 PM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Real eye-opener - M&B playing more post-'60s songs than B&A… and having five faces from C50's front row (inc Jeff & Scott) compared to B&A's two. Not that anyone's keeping count… Is there a statistician in the house! Not only were there five faces from C50 in the front row, when you add drummer John Cowsill, six of the eight musicians on stage performed during C50. With Randell Kirsch assisting on the road during C50, only one musician on stage was not part of C50 in some way. And that being said, the five principals, along with the C50 supporting musicians, really do need to do it again, before they all get too old. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: guitarfool2002 on October 06, 2014, 11:52:27 PM I'm sure the phrase "re-affirming the band's legacy" was on every audience member's mind as they left the venue.
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: The Shift on October 06, 2014, 11:57:56 PM I'm sure the phrase "re-affirming the band's legacy" was on every audience member's mind as they left the venue. I think it should be written within every fortune cookie that Mike, Brian, Al, Dave and Bruce bite into every day between now and Christmas. Just as a thunk-see… Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Theydon Bois on October 07, 2014, 12:44:16 AM As the great poem states: "They crowd the stage with countless hoards / while the ones they love are not in sight." Surely "hordes"? Not that I'm a professor or anything. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Eric Aniversario on October 07, 2014, 01:46:28 AM stunning review of the show in the Desert Sun. Time for Brian and Al to make the call and set something up--a new album and tour. The Hawthorne high boys are standing alone, while the BB expand and flourish. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2014/10/05/beach-boys-returning-vets-playing-newer-material/16758063/ Real eye-opener - M&B playing more post-'60s songs than B&A… and having five faces from C50's front row (inc Jeff & Scott) compared to B&A's two. Not that anyone's keeping count… Is there a statistician in the house! Not only were there five faces from C50 in the front row, when you add drummer John Cowsill, six of the eight musicians on stage performed during C50. With Randell Kirsch assisting on the road during C50, only one musician on stage was not part of C50 in some way. And that being said, the five principals, along with the C50 supporting musicians, really do need to do it again, before they all get too old. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: El Molé on October 07, 2014, 05:14:14 AM I quite like the idea of Mike opening the doors Brian, Al and Dave permanently, even on his own terms. Clearly there are some major financial complications with that, but my view is that if Al or Brian want to perform as Beach Boys, they should be able to.
I can't see another C50 happening as it did, but perhaps Brian and Mike could make a deal - Mike continues to run the live show but incorporates Brian and Al into it, whilst Brian holds control over anything they opt to do in the studio. In practice that means Mike drops his issue over writing with Brian but keeps his live show the way he wants it, whilst Brian sticks to what he knows and enjoys best without having to take leads on the majority of songs in a live show. That's the best of all world's isn't it? It'd probably not work out financially and Brian might not have any interest in touring at the rate Mike does, but in theory it seems like a workable compromise. It'd have the benefit of having the live shows covered by multiple primary vocalists and in an era where the guys are getting old, poses much less of a problem should someone take ill, lose their voice or injure their knee whilst inexplicably jumping during I Get Around. I'd like to think that a deal made on that basis would eventually lead to a more varied set list and some greater involvement for Mike in terms of song writing, but with both happening in a natural way rather than through a forced compromise that neither part would be truly happy with. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: rab2591 on October 07, 2014, 05:45:04 AM And anyone who encourages us to be "appreciative" of "what we have now" with the BB as separate acts has no sense of epic grandeur. Do you not hear the call of history, with Apollo himself ready at the lyre? I also said I'd be ecstatic if the band reunited again. It's not a matter of a supposed lack of imagination, it's just being thankful instead of cynical about any Beach Boys-related project that is currently actually happening. There was a poster here who recently said they'd refuse to listen to Brian's new album because Mike and Bruce weren't on it - talk about having no sense of grandeur....or just no sense. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: JohnMill on October 07, 2014, 06:02:52 AM And anyone who encourages us to be "appreciative" of "what we have now" with the BB as separate acts has no sense of epic grandeur. Do you not hear the call of history, with Apollo himself ready at the lyre? I also said I'd be ecstatic if the band reunited again. It's not a matter of a supposed lack of imagination, it's just being thankful instead of cynical about any Beach Boys-related project that is currently actually happening. There was a poster here who recently said they'd refuse to listen to Brian's new album because Mike and Bruce weren't on it - talk about having no sense of grandeur....or just no sense. I don't know about that. I foresee that being a bit of a problem with some Beach Boys fans who are no doubt going to compare the tracks on "No Pier Pressure" with all the special guests to what they could've been as full fledged Beach Boys tracks. For my money, fifty plus years into this game, nobody represents Brian Wilson's material as well as the boys do although I am going to give this new album a try unless the reviews coming in from the forums are so horrible that I don't go near the whole shebang with a barge pole! Then again I'll obviously also consult my own ears as we'll no doubt get a few tracks leaked to us through various legal means prior to the album's release. As far as the poster who mentioned that he won't purchase "No Pier Pressure" because it's not a full fledged Beach Boys affair? Maybe he's deciding ahead of time to save his money for something he wants to invest his money in more than a Brian Wilson solo album? Nothing wrong with that. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: rab2591 on October 07, 2014, 06:27:34 AM And anyone who encourages us to be "appreciative" of "what we have now" with the BB as separate acts has no sense of epic grandeur. Do you not hear the call of history, with Apollo himself ready at the lyre? I also said I'd be ecstatic if the band reunited again. It's not a matter of a supposed lack of imagination, it's just being thankful instead of cynical about any Beach Boys-related project that is currently actually happening. There was a poster here who recently said they'd refuse to listen to Brian's new album because Mike and Bruce weren't on it - talk about having no sense of grandeur....or just no sense. I don't know about that. I foresee that being a bit of a problem with some Beach Boys fans who are no doubt going to compare the tracks on "No Pier Pressure" with all the special guests to what they could've been as full fledged Beach Boys tracks. For my money, fifty plus years into this game, nobody represents Brian Wilson's material as well as the boys do although I am going to give this new album a try unless the reviews coming in from the forums are so horrible that I don't go near the whole shebang with a barge pole! Then again I'll obviously also consult my own ears as we'll no doubt get a few tracks leaked to us through various legal means prior to the album's release. As far as the poster who mentioned that he won't purchase "No Pier Pressure" because it's not a full fledged Beach Boys affair? Maybe he's deciding ahead of time to save his money for something he wants to invest his money in more than a Brian Wilson solo album? Nothing wrong with that. I'd rather Mike and Bruce be apart of the project, but they're not. So, with that in mind, this is still an album with Brian, Al, Blondie, a slew of other talented guests. I guess I find it somewhat odd that a member of a Beach Boys fan community would refuse to listen to music recorded by the genius who founded the Beach Boys. But to each their own. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Nicko1234 on October 07, 2014, 06:31:56 AM I'd rather Mike and Bruce be apart of the project, but they're not. So, with that in mind, this is still an album with Brian, Al, Blondie, a slew of other talented guests. I guess I find it somewhat odd that a member of a Beach Boys fan community would refuse to listen to music recorded by the genius who founded the Beach Boys. But to each their own. It is indeed odd. Especially as, all things being equal, this album ought to be better in terms of composition and construction than any Beach Boys album that might have been released year. Brian has had ages to work on it and there is no inner band politics dictating that old solo songs must be included. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: shadownoze on October 07, 2014, 06:36:06 AM As the great poem states: "They crowd the stage with countless hoards / while the ones they love are not in sight." Surely "hordes"? Not that I'm a professor or anything. Thanks for this; you made me laugh out loud. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 07, 2014, 07:27:52 AM Heavens yes! thanks; scribal error by the professor. Well-seen correction.
And to speak out of character and set aside the rhetorical play for a minute (which we all do to amuse ourselves and others), let me say that each BB has, in one way or another, spoken of the urgency and the beauty of being together, either quite recently or during the 50 shows when the "whole greater than the sum of its parts" talk was frequent. If I, and many of us, focus, even obsessively, on the hope of that dramatic, reunion, understand that such a turn of events is what mythology demands. If this were an epic poem, it would not end with separate bands and lingering lawsuits. To shun a BW album is silly (people can buy what they want, I suppose), but to be disappointed by "anything less" than one's dream makes perfect sense to me. As the great poem states: "They crowd the stage with countless hoards / while the ones they love are not in sight." Surely "hordes"? Not that I'm a professor or anything. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Shane on October 07, 2014, 11:00:43 AM I just saw Mike and Bruce at the Fresno Fair last night. Much to my surprise, Dave was performing as well! I don't this had been announced. Good show, probably would have been more fun if we didn't have the worst seats in the house. Dave sang Getcha Back and did a few guitar solos. John Cowsill was a bit of a wild man on the drums, waving his hair around in a very Dennis-like fashion. Plenty of Mike's geriatric jokes, and "Pisces Brothers" was just... seminal. Next stop... Brian and Al in Modesto on Thursday!
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 07, 2014, 11:43:24 AM Quoth the smile Brian- "the c50 is never more"
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Cam Mott on October 07, 2014, 12:55:24 PM Since they gave Mike the license, they should just get with Mike and say I'm available these dates can we make it work?
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: The Shift on October 07, 2014, 01:02:28 PM … and there is no inner band politics dictating that old solo songs must be included. You mean there's been no peer pressure? Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: HeyJude on October 07, 2014, 01:38:24 PM Since they gave Mike the license, they should just get with Mike and say I'm available these dates can we make it work? In September 2012, Brian and Al both essentially said the foreseeable future was free for them and they wanted to keep touring. They even had potential bookings for the entire group. Mike said no. Ball is in every conceivable way in Mike’s court. Not to mention that from all the evidence at hand, Mike wouldn’t add Brian and Al if they called him up today and said they’d join his group. He would say no, citing his budget and need to play “vital smaller markets.” Seriously, has anybody thought of this scenario? As asinine as it would be, and as unfair and beyond a fair “compromise” it would be, I don’t think Mike would add Brian and Al (and Dave for that matter) to his current band with its typical schedule and type of venues/markets. Even if he simply paid those three guys the same as Totten and Cowsill get paid, even then it seemingly wouldn’t work budget wise. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Pretty Funky on October 07, 2014, 01:47:02 PM Brian can turn up any where, any time apparently....
Mike 2012: "I can not fire Brian from the Beach Boys...I would never fire Brian from the Beach Boys." or words to that effect. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Cam Mott on October 07, 2014, 02:23:44 PM Brian can turn up any where, any time apparently.... Mike 2012: "I can not fire Brian from the Beach Boys...I would never fire Brian from the Beach Boys." or words to that effect. There you go. Easy peasy. Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Eric Aniversario on October 07, 2014, 02:56:43 PM I just saw Mike and Bruce at the Fresno Fair last night. Much to my surprise, Dave was performing as well! I don't this had been announced. Good show, probably would have been more fun if we didn't have the worst seats in the house. Dave sang Getcha Back and did a few guitar solos. John Cowsill was a bit of a wild man on the drums, waving his hair around in a very Dennis-like fashion. Plenty of Mike's geriatric jokes, and "Pisces Brothers" was just... seminal. Next stop... Brian and Al in Modesto on Thursday! Mike announced on Facebook that David will continue with the band through October 18th.Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Custom Machine on October 08, 2014, 03:43:59 PM Not only were there five faces from C50 in the front row, when you add drummer John Cowsill, six of the eight musicians on stage performed during C50. With Randell Kirsch assisting on the road during C50, only one musician on stage was not part of C50 in some way. Agreed, but quick correction: Tim Bonhomme helped on the road during c50, not Randell.And that being said, the five principals, along with the C50 supporting musicians, really do need to do it again, before they all get too old. Thanks for the correction, Eric! Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Mayoman on October 08, 2014, 04:42:14 PM Dave seems pretty comfortable with the band, and having him there certainly helps with the legitimacy of the band being 'The Beach Boys':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlrAinur7A Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 08, 2014, 09:46:39 PM Dave seems pretty comfortable with the band, and having him there certainly helps with the legitimacy of the band being 'The Beach Boys': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlrAinur7A Nice seeing David up there in the action! Sounding great as well...Mike's vocals? Not so much... Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: the professor on October 09, 2014, 07:56:25 AM well, three BB on one hand, two on another; one needs 5 to complete a band. They simply fulfill something in one another that no other accompaniment can fulfill. The surviving BB on stage together creates magic. Mike sounds weak. Compare all this with clips from The Royal Albert Hall.
Dave seems pretty comfortable with the band, and having him there certainly helps with the legitimacy of the band being 'The Beach Boys': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlrAinur7A Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: bgas on October 10, 2014, 10:32:07 AM well, three BB on one hand, two on another; one needs 5 to complete a band. The simply fulfill something in one another that no other accompaniment can fulfill. The surviving BB on stage together creates magic. Mike sounds weak. Compare all this with clips from The Royal Albert Hall. Dave seems pretty comfortable with the band, and having him there certainly helps with the legitimacy of the band being 'The Beach Boys': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlrAinur7A I think this must all be part of some sinister plot by Mike to set a precedent to regain full title to " The Beach Boys" Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: BB Universe on October 16, 2014, 11:45:41 AM Haven't seen this posted anyplace else (and didn't want to start a new thread):
Christpoher Cross singing I Can Hear Music with Mike, Bruce, David, Jeff ... Houston 10/9/14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRQm7EE6Qjg Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Fall Breaks on October 16, 2014, 12:37:08 PM Nice, but ... wasn't there someone who said it was ridiculous with five guitarists on stage during C50? :police:
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: tpesky on October 16, 2014, 12:46:12 PM M and B haven't done ICHM in awhile based on my recollections ( stand to be corrected) so it's nice to hear it and Christopher does a great job
Title: Re: Mike announces Dave will be joining him for three Beach Boys shows Post by: Micha on October 17, 2014, 08:27:55 AM Haven't seen this posted anyplace else (and didn't want to start a new thread): Christpoher Cross singing I Can Hear Music with Mike, Bruce, David, Jeff ... Houston 10/9/14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRQm7EE6Qjg He does a pretty good Carl Wilson impersonation there, doesn't he? He hasn't exactly Carl's voice nor is he pitch perfect but he matches the emotion. |