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Title: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Surfer on July 27, 2014, 08:13:19 PM I was watching this movie Tonight and i see this
The disclaimer at the start of the film is worth quoting: `... based on an unauthorised biography of the Beach Boys. Dialogue and scenes interpretive of this material have been created for dramatic purposes. The music in the film is not performed by the Beach Boys. If the Beach Boys did not do the Music in the movie who did the Music then Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 28, 2014, 12:49:10 AM The movie is based on the Steve Gaines book Heroes & Villains. I think the credits list who supplied the music.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 28, 2014, 06:46:21 PM am I dreaming, but didn't Jeff Foskett have something to do with the soundtrack?.....
not sure on where I 'imagined' that... RickB Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on July 28, 2014, 07:44:22 PM Greenwood's great as Dennis in that flick! He doesn't look like him too much, but it's a very respectful, human portrayal .....
As cheeseball as the thing is, it reignited my childhood love for The Beach Boys. I remember watching it on the tiny little TV in my room, long after I was supposed to be in bed. I was still living in Hawthorne at the time and was simply blown away that these guys, this whole amazing thing sprang from my hometown. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: ThyRavenAscend on July 28, 2014, 07:53:15 PM Greenwood's great as Dennis in that flick! He doesn't look like him too much, but it's a very respectful, human portrayal ..... As cheeseball as the thing is, it reignited my childhood love for The Beach Boys. I remember watching it on the tiny little TV in my room, long after I was supposed to be in bed. I was still living in Hawthorne at the time and was simply blown away that these guys, this whole amazing thing sprang from my hometown. "An American Family" ignited my love for The Beach Boys. Seeing that on TV as a boy solidified my BB fandom! Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: retrokid67 on July 28, 2014, 07:55:23 PM I've heard there's a lot of inaccuracies in the movie but I still want to see it. I've only seen clips of it on youtube.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: bluesno1fann on July 28, 2014, 07:55:47 PM Greenwood's great as Dennis in that flick! He doesn't look like him too much, but it's a very respectful, human portrayal ..... As cheeseball as the thing is, it reignited my childhood love for The Beach Boys. I remember watching it on the tiny little TV in my room, long after I was supposed to be in bed. I was still living in Hawthorne at the time and was simply blown away that these guys, this whole amazing thing sprang from my hometown. I think the film's pretty awful. But I have nothing but praise for the person who portrayed Murry Wilson. He was the right choice and his performance was excellent. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: bluesno1fann on July 28, 2014, 07:58:41 PM I've heard there's a lot of inaccuracies in the movie but I still want to see it. I've only seen clips of it on youtube. I've got it on DVD, but it's pretty hard to find. There's one copy available on VHS on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Summer-Dreams-Story-Beach-Movie/dp/6303085237/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406602411&sr=8-1&keywords=summer+dreams+1990 Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Orange Crate Art on July 28, 2014, 08:07:35 PM The guy who played Murry was great. The actor who played Dennis wasn't too bad, but he doesn't look anything like the real Dennis Wilson. The rest of the cast sucks. Bad acting, bad wigs. The music was performed by some of Weird Al's musicians. Summer Dreams is a crap movie. Sorry Surfer, I know you like this movie but it's the worst film about the Beach Boys. I can't imagine that any of the Beach Boys like that movie at all.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: retrokid67 on July 28, 2014, 08:17:45 PM I wouldn't mind getting "American Family" on dvd, that one was really good, but from what I've seen from this movie, I never wanted to own it. I was hoping someone would upload the whole thing on Youtube or something :lol.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Micha on July 29, 2014, 01:11:55 AM I've seen it in the German dubbed version, I think it isn't all bad, some of it is quite enjoyable.
Whoever translated the movie into German, he or she obviously mixed up "headliner (festival)" with "headlines (newspaper)" and so got at least one line of dialogue absolutely wrong. Who knows how much else was translated incorrectly. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: The Heartical Don on July 29, 2014, 04:34:04 AM Greenwood's great as Dennis in that flick! He doesn't look like him too much, but it's a very respectful, human portrayal ..... As cheeseball as the thing is, it reignited my childhood love for The Beach Boys. I remember watching it on the tiny little TV in my room, long after I was supposed to be in bed. I was still living in Hawthorne at the time and was simply blown away that these guys, this whole amazing thing sprang from my hometown. I think the film's pretty awful. But I have nothing but praise for the person who portrayed Murry Wilson. He was the right choice and his performance was excellent. Agree - Murry was played so well, by someone who really resembles him. IIRC you see him reflected in the mirror of that control booth, and he truly looks like some angry Deity... Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: RiC on July 29, 2014, 05:01:39 AM I have this on dvd. It was included in a "box" with two other films. What a horrible piece of crap it is. The other movie, or TV-series, whatever, like others have already stated, was ok though. Everything from the score to acting and technical side are just plain bad in that Summer Dreams movie.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: 37!ws on July 29, 2014, 02:50:33 PM am I dreaming, but didn't Jeff Foskett have something to do with the soundtrack?..... not sure on where I 'imagined' that... RickB Probably not. NONE of the music sounds remotely Beach Boys-esque AT ALL. The voices sound like they're on helium. Foskett IS on the soundtrack of An American Travesty, though...when Brian demos "In My Room," the real (2000) Brian's voice sings until the high part, when Jeff takes over. Also, when the Sunrays are shown recording, the music is actually Foskett's remake of "I Live For The Sun," from his Thru My Window album. Guessing there were licensing issues or something. Recently wathced Summer Dreams with a bunch of friends. One in particular shrieked her head off when the teen-aged "Dennis" said to "Brian," "You know what I love about seagulls?" Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 29, 2014, 04:53:27 PM I liked the movie..... I saw it as a kid, and never thought of the unfactual stuff and the exaggerated things..... and fake beards.....
you see all that later.... still, I watch it regularly, and while I'm a BB nut, I don't take it so seriously..... Yes, Murray was the best part of the movie, I liked the Brian guy..... while he looked nothing like him, as Dennis...... but I did like the parts they played...... seemed pretty close to character in parts.... RickB Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Doo Dah on July 29, 2014, 10:21:31 PM Those of you with Roku, you can stream part one of the movie (roughly up to Pet Sounds) on the Crackle movie channel.
Funny you mention it, I watched it just a week ago. The Brian portrayal just made him look like a fidgeting, frightened basket case - even in the studio. Of course, the Mike character would speak up and straighten things out... :lol The Van Dyke Parks party scene is my favorite btw. Some real thespian chops going down there maaaaan! Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 30, 2014, 12:11:50 AM When a film becomes generally known as "the movie with the fake beards", you just know it can't be anything special.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Mr. Verlander on July 30, 2014, 03:45:20 AM 'Surf music...is dead!'
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: The Heartical Don on July 30, 2014, 04:11:58 AM I always loved Bret Wheadon's take on Summer Dreams (from www.beachboys.com):
Quote REVIEW: If Looking Back With Love is your idea of a good Beach Boys album, then have I got the movie for you. Summer Dreams has so many bad elements it's hard to know where to begin. For one thing, where else can you find a movie that has achieved a degree of infamy for it's facial hair? The fake beards here look like they were swiped from the Planet of the Apes. Then there's the fact-impared script; derived from Steven Gaines' book Heroes and Villains, this should tip any curious viewer right off the bat that this is not going to be Masterpiece Theatre. The film takes the point of view that Dennis was the most interesting Beach Boy, and is told from his point of view. We see the young, 35-year-old 'teenage' Wilsons cavorting about on the beach, at home with Father (the perfectly-cast Arlen Dean Snyder as Murray) and starting their own band. We see Sensitive Brian, the Chubby, Quiet Carl, the Hunky Wildboy Dennis (played with aplomb by Bruce Greenwood), the Balding Mike and that Other Guy all shuffling around making great music. Then... Brian gets psychedelic! Mike gets a beard! Then they all get beards! Dennis sings a song that he never wrote! Then it's 1985 and everyone joins in for the 4th of July at the Nation's Capitol. Inspiring! Ugh. A couple of the actors manage to capture some of the essence of the characters they portray, but on the whole, this is is Grade-C government process cheeze-whiz, and a poor introduction to a complex band. (I hope I'm allowed to cite this.) Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Orange Crate Art on July 30, 2014, 06:06:34 AM I'd say Bret Wheadon's take is accurate.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: 37!ws on July 30, 2014, 07:56:30 AM When a film becomes generally known as "the movie with the fake beards", you just know it can't be anything special. Well...the fake facial hair in general is applicable to both -- the unmatching beards in Summer Dreams, and "Mike"'s mustache falling of in An American Tragedy. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Rocker on August 15, 2014, 12:06:14 PM This movie is a guilty pleasure for me. I also grew up with the german overdubs.
Karen Lamm had something to do with this film IIRC. The music is done very good. I don't know exactly who recorded it. But Greenwood wrote about how he got drum lessons for this movie. He also played the Dennis-song in the movie (see below). Bruce Greenwood is the highight of the movie (which all in all is more about Dennis' time in the group). He gives a wonderful romantic interpretation of the tragic figure Dennis Wilson. Of course there are quite a few inaccuracies (whoever got the idea that Dennis didn't play/sing on the records?!) and much of the story is missing. But I like this one much better than An American Family. The latter is too much of a nostalgic look with cheesy costumes an all around plastic feel imo. "Summer dreams" at least has the story taken place in a real life situation. I love the song "Dennis" is playing to Karen, which was written especially for the movie. It is just beautiful and I really could see Dennis writing something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaugccN6njk BTW here's the trailer for the movie: http://www.zimbio.com/watch/iHgSgPzxGHa/Summer+Dreams+Story+Beach+Boys/Bruce+Greenwood And something I have to ask. In the scene where Dennis picks up Karen, there's a song played in the bar on the radio. Does anyone know which song that is? I heard it once on the radio about ten years ago. I really like it and would love to have it. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: HeyJude on August 15, 2014, 04:32:46 PM I have a super vague recollection of someone mentioning years back that Greenwood thought well enough of the movie that he would screen it for friends for some time after the movie aired.
This movie is awesome, as in "best worst movies" awesome. I watched this with a non-fan once, and they obviously didn't find it as funny since they weren't aware of all the factual inaccuracies. But they got a kick out of the awful stereotypes and bad bears, etc. They also agreed with me that the guy playing Murry was sufficiently terrifying. I though the Murry in "Summer Dreams" was much more effective than the one in "An American Family." However inaccurate it is, that scene where he snaps and comes out into the studio is briefly intense. I still randomly quote lines from this movie. "You're out of the band buckwheat!", "Duh, Al.", "I can't have music in my head if I'm always on the road!" I recently saw the guy who played Mike in "Summer Dreams" in some sitcom, and funnily enough he kind of looks like Mike does now. Goatee, white hair, etc. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Pretty Funky on August 16, 2014, 06:09:18 PM I recently saw the guy who played Mike in "Summer Dreams" in some sitcom, and funnily enough he kind of looks like Mike does now. Goatee, white hair, etc. Your'e right! http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2427028224/nm0761389?ref_=nm_ov_ph Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Lowbacca on August 17, 2014, 09:02:23 AM I recently saw the guy who played Mike in "Summer Dreams" in some sitcom, and funnily enough he kind of looks like Mike does now. Goatee, white hair, etc. Your'e right! http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2427028224/nm0761389?ref_=nm_ov_ph Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Rocker on August 17, 2014, 11:26:05 AM I think he was a great cast for Mike's role, although he was not as skinny as Mike.
I recently saw the guy who played Mike in "Summer Dreams" in some sitcom, and funnily enough he kind of looks like Mike does now. Goatee, white hair, etc. Your'e right! http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2427028224/nm0761389?ref_=nm_ov_ph Send that to the "Love&Mercy"-people! ;D Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Rocker on December 22, 2014, 08:55:45 AM Just saw this news report with behind-the-scenes footage of the movie on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0maC5bGOSQo Well, and here's the whole shebang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8WYfIuF9o And does anyone know what the song is that starts at approx. 1:00:35 and who sings it? What seems to be the chorus seems to have these lyrics : "Wasting my life in my time ... and it brings me down. And I do everything just to bring one more smile to her face" Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: brother john on December 22, 2014, 11:17:02 AM I've heard there's a lot of inaccuracies in the movie but I still want to see it. I've only seen clips of it on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8WYfIuF9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8WYfIuF9o) Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 22, 2014, 11:38:02 AM This movie is a guilty pleasure for me. I also grew up with the german overdubs. Karen Lamm had something to do with this film IIRC. The music is done very good. I don't know exactly who recorded it. But Greenwood wrote about how he got drum lessons for this movie. He also played the Dennis-song in the movie (see below). Bruce Greenwood is the highight of the movie (which all in all is more about Dennis' time in the group). He gives a wonderful romantic interpretation of the tragic figure Dennis Wilson. Of course there are quite a few inaccuracies (whoever got the idea that Dennis didn't play/sing on the records?!) and much of the story is missing. But I like this one much better than An American Family. The latter is too much of a nostalgic look with cheesy costumes an all around plastic feel imo. "Summer dreams" at least has the story taken place in a real life situation. I love the song "Dennis" is playing to Karen, which was written especially for the movie. It is just beautiful and I really could see Dennis writing something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaugccN6njk BTW here's the trailer for the movie: http://www.zimbio.com/watch/iHgSgPzxGHa/Summer+Dreams+Story+Beach+Boys/Bruce+Greenwood And something I have to ask. In the scene where Dennis picks up Karen, there's a song played in the bar on the radio. Does anyone know which song that is? I heard it once on the radio about ten years ago. I really like it and would love to have it. An American Family has an advantage over Summer Dreams that is beyond computation, beyond argument. It uses the original recordings.* [* I know, with two exceptions...] Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: 37!ws on December 22, 2014, 01:39:26 PM What's the other exception besides "I Live For The Sun"?
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: GoodVibrations33 on December 22, 2014, 01:45:27 PM What's the other exception besides "I Live For The Sun"? I'm guessing when the Brian actor sings, while at the piano, "In My Room" and "I Get Around". Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 22, 2014, 02:47:05 PM What's the other exception besides "I Live For The Sun"? Oops... forgot that one. The other two exceptions are... "Geronimo Leaps" & the faux-Spector track. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: WWDWD? on December 22, 2014, 04:41:05 PM I love the song "Dennis" is playing to Karen, which was written especially for the movie. It is just beautiful and I really could see Dennis writing something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaugccN6njk I hear shades of "Holy Man" in that snippet. Part of the verse, part of the "and you can follow" chorus. Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: lostbeachboy on December 22, 2014, 05:38:03 PM Im assuming a movie where the actor has short hair and no facial hair in one scene and the next scene has hair down to his ass and a beard to his stomach either is wearing a wig or took a significant break from filming.
Title: Re: Summer Dreams Movie Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 22, 2014, 11:40:04 PM I love the song "Dennis" is playing to Karen, which was written especially for the movie. It is just beautiful and I really could see Dennis writing something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaugccN6njk I hear shades of "Holy Man" in that snippet. Part of the verse, part of the "and you can follow" chorus. Movie was made well over ten years before "Holy Man" was rediscovered, and in any case, that song wasn't written by anyone with even the vaguest connection with the BB. So, pure coincidence. |