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It's pretty safe to say that a lot of people are tired of the bickering that's been spewing up all over the board for the past few months.  debates have grown into harassment and nobody here deserves that.  Some people have a hard time moving on but the best thing for us all to do is to move on, holding grudges won't help anybody and the mods can't break up every fight that occurs, especially if they occur rapidly. "Love and Mercy".  Whether you're a fan of Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al, Bruce, David, Blondie, Ricky, or the rest, or whether you're a fan of SMiLE, Pet Sounds, Sunflower, Today, or Stars and Stripes, we're all here for the BB and they should be the main center of attention here not useless arguments.  this isn't a perfect world and no one here is perfect so arguments will happen now and then and innocent debates are fine, but not when it turns into harassment from other members. some people probably won't ever come on friendly terms with each other, but if it's like that, they should keep it in pms or just simply avoid each other.  this board will be celebrating a 10 year anniversary in 2015; I know we still have a few months to go but we shouldn't go into it with half of the board members hating each other.  it's about time we all came together and let what's in the past stay in the past and keep moving forward.  The BB are known for perfecting their harmonies, so as a board, we also need to perfect our harmony.  :grouphug

Thanks everyone, I can't take credit for this though because lots of members here had the exact same thoughts. I really hope that the peace comes back.  :(
Rei, your "Love and Mercy" was a nice touch  :)

Retrokid, c'mere and gimme a hug.  ;D

There has noticeably been many, many people (I refuse to name names) who are quite bitter about past events and refuses to move on from it. This is a minority, but the inability to move is is a serious detriment in the efforts to bring peace around here for the benefit of this forum and everyone in it.

Things have become quite ugly around here for a while, and I'd hate for this to continue. If you are willing to move on from past mistakes, that would be a huge step in the right direction here.

Basically, to phrase John Lennon: "All we are saying is Give Peace A Chance!"

- says someone who at one point left the board. Or considered to leave.

The current nonsense is nothing in historic terms: we've had mass defections, group bannings and the MB equivalent of pistols at dawn.

Wow. I knew these to an extent, but Wow.

Your comment to Clay was both unnecessary and mildly condescending, a combination which seems to be both your MO and your forte. Try not stirring the pot for once. You might get to like it.   ::)

The current nonsense is nothing in historic terms: we've had mass defections, group bannings and the MB equivalent of pistols at dawn. Thing is, I don't think we've lost anyone irreplaceable but, as one Marx, G. once said, "in your case I'm willing to make an exception".  ;D

After the events on a certain recent thread and the hateful bile from certain members on it, I've given up hope on this ever happening.

debates are normal, but you know something's wrong when you have multiple people complaining about the negativity on this board. something's gotta change, somewhere.

Suggest you read what I wrote very attentively. You're the one who stirrs the pot with your last bit in quotes. I only stated fact that Surfer has Down Syndrome & everyone should be equal before the rules - does such an innocent sentence warrant deletion of account? Does it sound like I made fun of him? Course not, & the mods agreed with me, given they didn't ban me.

What kind of awful person calls me an awful person?? Those awful people are awfully wrong. Why can't they change and realize the changed people have changed and change the way they treat the change of the people who have changed   ?!?!!?

Yeah. Especially when arguments degenerate into one-sided personal insults. Like a "Horrible piece of shite who has no redeeming factors". What kind of awful person says unapologetic sh*t like that? Especially when that person uses inaccurate and exaggerated examples. And what some people don't understand is that people change. Yet these people don't change their attitude towards the changed people and even after they admit they're wrong, those jerks still act like mega-arseholes towards the changed people and hold grudges.

It saddens me to see people with so much pure hate in them. Those people don't belong on forums and are a major detriment to the people who actually want peace around here.

You haven't changed yet.

From all your senseless hitler defending, to your senseless rape jokes, to your senseless paedophile defending....


Why don't you think about what you're posting?

And why shouldn't I hate you? If you genuinely think Hitler wasn't awful, rape is a laughing matter, and that 14 year girls are fair game sexually, everyone here should hate you. The balls in YOUR court here, not mine. Don't cry about your hurt feelings when you so obviously don't care about the feelings of others.

If I've offended you, I apologize.

I admit I've posted a lot of stupid sh*t in the past, much of which I regret. I've grown up a bit during the year I've been here, and I try to be careful when I post these days.  I've never defended Nazism, it was a vile ideology which was a product of it's times. The PaedoSanta sh*t, I was completely wrong
As for the latest discussion, I didn't paedophilia at all, in fact I made it clear that it makes me sick. I'm certain now that Bill Wyman was a paedophile for having sex with Mandy Smith in the 1980's. It's quite hard for me to realize even now, and it's still sinking in. It saddens me to think about it.

I've admitted that he was a paedophile on the thread and that I was clearly wrong.

Look, I'm not a perfect person. In fact, I can be an arsehole. But it doesn't mean I don't have feelings, and what you said quite upset me. I only want to make things right now, I hope you can help my by supporting that.

I don't care how sorry you are. Just change how you post. The fact that you're the only poster ever in the history of this board to say 'well, hitler wasn't as bad as Mao or Stalin', make sh*t 'P-Santa' rape jokes, and say that a 49 year old man and a 14 year old child had a legit relationship makes me severely doubt your character.

I'm not sorry I hurt your feelings. Thanks for posting PMs on the board, if i'd responded that'd be a bannable offence but as it stands....

I don't care how sorry you are. If you're genuinely that sorry, BE A BETTER PERSON.

I genuinely think that Stalin's a worse person who did worse things and killed far more people. But that's not defending Hitler. Not at all. If saying one brutal tyrant's worse than another is such a bad thing to say, then I don't know what to say. I've been careful not to make jokes like the P-Santa ones since then, and I again wish I didn't say it. That one I was completely wrong about and there's no defending it. Not that I'm trying. As for the last part, I was in denial until now. I admit it.

I do genuinely try to improve myself. Like at one stage, I was posting so much that it started coming off as spam to others, and people started getting angry. Since then I've limited how much I post, and try to take advice from others.

As I said in the PM, I only want to make things right. I hope you'll at least support me on that.

it would be better for you if you just stopped posting.

I know you feel like you need to have the last word on everything, but in a lot of these issues you get yourself involved it would be better for you if you just stopped posting.

Could all the people who are arguing settle it in pms please  :(? that would be greatly appreciated.

There has noticeably been many, many people (I refuse to name names) who are quite bitter about past events and refuses to move on from it. This is a minority, but the inability to move is is a serious detriment in the efforts to bring peace around here for the benefit of this forum and everyone in it.

I'll say it again, if people would just drop idiotic grudges, forgive, move on, and (in some cases) grow the f*** up, then there would be a hell of a lot less negativity around here. Why can't some people get it into their heads?

I just hope the continued hatred from different people, and the actions by those people doesn't lead to more people giving up and leaving the forum.

Sadly, although the first two are eminently possible, certain posters (past and present) will no more move on than they will ever grow up. Because they have repeatedly demonstrated they are congenitally incapable of so doing.

Agreed, AGD.

It's sad to see an old grudge dictate the majority of a users posts, whether its insults or attempts to make them look bad. You see way too much of that these days.

Woah buddy... ::)

You are a foul fucking hypocrite, Tarot.

You have no right whatsoever to say that considering everything you did on the All Pink Floyd Fan Network.

What happened to dropping grudges, forgiving and moving on? Or does that only apply to others?