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I am making a new 2 Disc CD of the Beach Boys and Dennis Wilson!  Anyone want to Contribute to my project?  I have some Titles for my CD like this one

Reverberation 69 and my track order is about

Love
Meditation
Peace
Folk
Soul
Girls
psychedelic

Is this guy real?

Here's my Reverberation CD:

Cotton Fields (single version)
Loop De Loop
All I Wanna Do  
Got To Know The Woman
When Girls Get Together  
Break Away
San Miguel
Celebrate The News  
Deirdre  
The Lord's Prayer (stereo)
Forever

Pretty good, eh?

Problem? Chip in or move on.

My Reverberation is pretty much identical to yours Mikie, just in different order.

I think beacharg has any right to write what he wants. No? Alternately, you can always block anyone who says even innocent slight dig at Surfer. you aren't his official lawyer, let him defend himself, he's grown up.

Food fight!!!!

More like fight using surfboards a la ninja.

Do you every just STOP!!!!!!! Geez. Everything you say is a criticism of what someone else says or does. Why do you do this? Does it make you feel better to point out stuff like this? I don't get it. Either add something to this thread or move on. What's so hard about that? :smokin UGH.

  Why was "The Lord's Prayer" a contender for REVERBERATION? It does not flow well with the other tunes. Whose idea?

Here's an album that I think would have done well as Reverberation (last Capitol album):

Side A
1- San Miguel
2- Forever
3- Got to Know the Woman
4- Deirdre
5- Celebrate the News

Side B
1- Loop De Loop
2- All I Wanna Do
3- Break Away
4- Slip on Through
5- I'm Going Your Way

I think that's a nice flow.  Pretty Dennis-heavy, I know, but that's not such a bad thing, eh?  San Miguel could have been a single & Break Away would have been a bigger hit in the US.  Just my 2 cents.

Cotton Fields (single version)
Loop De Loop
All I Wanna Do 
Got To Know The Woman
When Girls Get Together 
Break Away
San Miguel
Celebrate The News 
Deirdre 
The Lord's Prayer (stereo)
Forever

I posted the list above based on the list AGD posted on his site.

I align much more with Bill M's list. But.......trying to re-establish the Rock & Roll street cred of my band, I would drop Lord's Prayer and When Girls Get Together. No-brainer, since Break Away only made it to single status and wasn't even included on an album until 1974, it gets included here. And Moon Dawg asks a good question. It just doesn't fit here. It's duophonic, not even stereo, and was never on an album up to that point, but a 1964 recording doesn't fit here. And neither does the style and production. And since Cotton Fields is better than the album version and did so well in the UK and Australia, it belongs here.

Anyway, I'll go with Bill's list, take away Dierdre and When Girls Get Together and Loop De Loop.........and add Susie Cincinnati and/or Lady and/or Good Time and/or Big Sur and/or "Till I Die and/or Games People Play and/or Add Some Music instead.

Don't dramatize, not EVERYthing I say is negative (of what someone else yada yada), I only question this weird habit of creating a new topic instead of re-opening the old one on the same subject. What's so hard about that? If Surfer doesn't stop, then he's a troll. Every one of his dreaded duplicate threads should be merged, and isn't it considered here a good help & well intention? Mod or not mod, I don't care, they cannot monitor everything, so I have any right to co-operate with them & get mod power where necessary. You can too.

Sounds fair? Yes, indeed.

Stop what You're under arrestt?  :police:  I am doing a project and i want people to help me out and is there a problem with that.

Then use the search function & re-open any old thread about Reverberation. Is there a problem with that? Otherwise, I'm going to ask the mods to merge your thread with the old ones. Deal?

 :bow :bow

I prefer new threads to reopening threads from 2007 that go on for pages and are full of outdated broken links, red x boxes where photos used to be, etc. The duplicate thread should not be started if there is a relatively recent one, as in the past few months.  JMO, YMMV.

Nope. None whatsoever.

yea those outdated broken links are a real pain  :(.  every time I think I'm gonna get to see something new and click on one it's a complete let down and I wish I had become a fan earlier  :thud

So what? Get past them & enjoy the reading/posting, it ain't "rocket science", like you used to say. Reverberations, as well as Surfin Safaris, were recent.

Nice. Real classy. You're all heart, aren't you ? How does it feel to be observing the human race from the outside ?

Okay, if it means sth. for you, I'll delete the message. Now relax & sit in your sofa calmly.

Could you see your way clear to deleting your account on this forum as well ?

Don't start drama where it's not, please.

Woah, that's harsh. Too far, dude. She actually has a very good point BTW.

Cool name for an  album Surfer. I like the song cycless people are coming up with.

 RangeRover you have a big heart.

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Is that irony I hear dripping all over the floor?

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Yeah she so does. Why be sensitive and considerate when there are double threads to prevent. ARGH double threads are just such a slight annoyance to my life!! They make me forget that other people have feelings, or even exist.

Ahh double standards, we meet again...

Funny how you chose to attack someone who had supported what she said instead of her, whose comments you are supposedly against? After all, shouldn't that be the person to comment against? Or did you simply take this opportunity to meaninglessly antagonize me for the sake of it?

blocking posts from Woodstock/Mr. Woodmeister now

K.
I dunno how you saw that as an antagonization., or an attack,  my point is I do not at all support being insensitive for the sake of something stupid.

Well, if we let everyone start creating DDT's (Dreaded Duplicate Threads) here, then this forum would be a mess. Which is why I supported RangeRover. It wasn't being insensitive, it was treating him the same as others.

And your message did come off as rude and sarcastic BTW.

Why would multiple threads from surfer be a big deal? We get multiple threads about DW these days from you and retrokid.

Exactly. It's not a big deal.

It's a minor rule. There's room for kindness.

"Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." Dalai Lama

Not only do I avoid doing that (not sure about Retrokid), but the last time I made a Dennis-related thread was when asking about a song (which I found out was written by him) called "What Can The Matter Be?", and that was only after trying to search it up for a while. I'm sorry (not) but you're completely inaccurate.

But you are deflecting the real question, why bully surfer?

May I suggest to get back on topic or continue this discussion on the Sandbox?

I'm not! I'm just saying people shouldn't create DDT's, and how AGD went too far with his comment against RangeRover. How exactly is that bullying?

I agree.

Not letting surfer do his own thing.

For reasons I've already described, that's not bullying. It's better to treat him equally than treated special.
If you still think that's bullying, then clearly you and I have different definitions on what constitutes bullying.

It's getting late now here (nearly 1am), and I've made my point. So I'm going to let RangeRover (The person who you should logically question instead of me) take over replying to you guys (when she gets on of course).

They could have made a very good Brian-centric album as a parting gift to Capitol with this.

Side 1
Breakaway
This Whole World
Add Some Music
Derdrie
Been Too Long

Side 2
San Miguel
Good Time
All I Wanna Do
Celebrate The News
Cool, Cool Water
We're Together Again

I'd make Cool, Cool, Water the album closer (guess I'm just used to it closing Sunflower). Otherwise I love that tracklisting.

This is the second time in as many days you've become completely unreasonably angry about someone talking about something which has already been discussed in the past.
Why don't you just not read the thread anymore if it's not to your liking?
You might have an encyclopedic memory regarding what has or hasn't been discussed here previously but not all of us do and, hey, maybe some people just weren't around the first time said topics were discussed.
Seriously, calm yourself down and stop snapping at people over nothing... It's weird.
(Oh, and if you ever make offensive comments like that about Down's Syndrome I'll pester the moderators until they ban your bad-tempered passive-aggressive ass.)

Well, gee, if we're allowed This Whole World, Cool Cool Water and We're Together Again, I need to revise my list again!

Maybe this thread oughta be "Alternate Sunflower 1969".

Really ? I thought it was couched in most polite terms. You've seen me do harsh - that wasn't even in the same county. Some of the PMs I've had on this topic have been a lot harsher.

But, as Thumper said, if you can't say anything good, don't say nothing at all, thus I'll ignore this irritant henceforth. If she could see clear to doing the same to me... why, then we'll have world peace. Or something close.

I think AGD has the biggest heart of all of us. :-D

Undoubtedly, and also the stoniest.  :old

RangeRover is a she??

Seconded.

  Indeed it is. I normally don't insert myself in this kind of stuff, but the Rover of Ranges went over the line. Next time it happens in this context I'll take it to the mods.

Think you'll find some posters have beaten you to it.

a lot of Surfer's threads are about Dennis too but ok...if there's anything that gets talked about over and over again here it's SMiLE

Well, the board's name is "smiley smile" and it's a descendent of the " smile shop" board.

ok

Yeah smile represent!

there's more to the BBs besides SMiLE and Pet Sounds (even though they're important)  ^-^ just sayin

;)

eh anyways I do love the cover to Reverberation.

Don't tell that to the Smile-o-philes who post here. To them, the Smile is all there is to The Boys' legacy. That's all they want to talk about. And if they venture onto other threads, it's just a front to the reason they're really here.

This.

Awright, let me clarify this Holocaust situation. 1stly, at the time I wrote that distateful comment, I wasn't aware that people like Surfer have some learning difficulties. And how would I? Never met or spoke to them in real life. My knowledge is based on Pablo Pineda who received a university degree, I thought they are normal/smart like us, only difference in the appearance (which by the way, I think is cute). Then some of my friends here explained that I might mix it up with Asperger's. I'm sorry if I caused such trouble. (though being completely honest, you don't do any favor in pitying Surfer, we ought to treat him the same.)

2ndly, when I direct someone to an old thread, it doesn't mean in any way that I'm being angry (that was weird thing to say, Disney Boy, as you can't hear my voice) or spiteful; in fact, you can call it "help". Yes, it comes off a little too straightforward/non-subtle, but it's everywhere, I'm not the 1st who does so. There were lots of cases when Pretty Funky, Lowbacca, The Real BB etc. headed the OP to the old topic(s). Surfer is a newbie & understandably wouldn't know how to use the board. I tried my best to help him, even giving step-by-step instruction.

Thanks to Mikie, retrokid, Mike's Beard, rab2591 for not engaging in all this rubbish. On-topic.

You think people with Down's syndrome are 'cute'. Well, that's alright then... Yes, as Range Rover says: well done to everyone who had the common decency not to engage in such petty rubbish, unlike overly-sensitive old me who had the audacity to get offended by someone using disability as a disparaging term.

'How do you know I'm being angry when you can't hear my voice'? I can't help noticing, RR, that absolutely everything you write is always completely and utterly head-scratchingly bizarre. On-topic.

Oy. Some people should have quit while they're ahead and not get even more insulting towards people with special needs and their parents/family members.

Maybe the moderators would be better advised to leave the topic as it is, with the first question about a track listing and people's responses to it, and delete all the anal retentive stuff about "no top posting!" and the insults to other posters and unrelated stuff. The question posed by the OP is unique and is not a duplicate thread. He's asking about his own version of a track order for a CD he plans to burn, it's not asking about "Reverbration" itself.

What is up with you, get over it, I already said sorry. And how my "cute" comment is insulting, I genuinely think they have cute face. Isn't it a compliment? Also, you always seem to twist the original words. To my "use the search function" (read "I find the old topics manually, not get them out of memory") you said "you might have an encyclopedic memory regarding what has or hasn't been discussed here previously". It's weird (c).

Do you follow me in every thread to make such a statement? Doubt.

2 KittyKat: your post is out of place now, given the case is closed. You're late.

This thread needs a deep scrubbing.

Give him enough rope...

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What's the matter with you all? If I said publicly an apology, is it really difficult to accept it? There are far more bad things happened in the history of the board. Or is it because I'm not a BBs historian, just a random poster that you think you might go on rolling eyes on me? Not okay.

Was there ever any real chance of an album with the Reverberation track-list actually being released?

Fun as it is, i don't think tracks like Loop De Loop would have done the band any favours back in '69/'70. Personally, I'm glad they scrapped it and we got Sunflower instead...

I agree. I think what some of the people said to you was worse than what you said to Surfer.

And yeah, let's all get back on-topic!

I'm guessing Range Rover, who is fond of finding out-of-the-way English words, is using the word in it's original sense. Range Rover, the word is seldom if ever used any more in the English-speaking world to refer to anything but the genocide against the Jews by the Nazi party.

What about Nuclear Holocaust?

Also, it wasn't just the Jews who were killed in that genocide...

A fair amendment.
The point is people used to use the word to describe such trivial things as a house catching on fire and burning down, and they don't anymore. Sorry to be off-topic I don't like to see people completely misunderstanding one another.

If ever there was time for a time out...

Only reason I stayed out of it is because AGD pretty much said exactly what I was thinking. RR, I don't know if it's a language barrier or what, but you do say some harsh things towards posters sometimes...and it is completely unnecessary.


For real? Put yourself in OPs shoes for a minute - you get yammered at for starting a harmless topic, then someone calls out your disability in a very demeaning way. If you think being told to leave a Beach Boys forum is worse than that, you need to reevaluate your ethics ::)

Anyways, keep up the great posts Surfer!

What has Surfer said about it all? We all jump to conclusions, get on our high horses and answer for them before we let the offended speak for themselves. What a place!

And what if he isn't offended? Does that make the comments any less ignorant? Regardless of any hurt feelings, comments like that should be called out - if only so the rest of don't have to read sh*t like that in the future.

What has happened to this board?

Juvenile rubbish. High-school drama. Yes, I know some of you are actually in high school - but so are other posters on this board - and they can handle it just fine. And I'm sure the people I'm referring to will "call me out" publically and reply to this post, which is totally uneccessary, but they do it on every other thread here, too. And then maybe they'll post an apology thread. And then continue to keep doing the same thing over and over. And then wonder why they keep being pissed on here.

Can we just stick to talking about the Beach Boys, please? Cripes.

It's all I can do to stay out of this B.S. All I would do is contribute to it, and I refuse.. I strongly suggest that we do what the Admin's suggest and get back on topic straight away (English term).

NOW.  Before the thread gets locked and/or somebody gets banned.

First off, I am here to talk Beach Boys. Let the Mods call them out. If we stay on topic, it slowly fades away. I am not the thought police for crisesakes.

Well, they got as far as preparing a master logged as "Last Capitol Album" on June 19th 1970, which included four songs - "Got To Know The Woman (in a mono mix), "All I Wanna Do", "Deirdre" & "Forever" - that were pulled and included on the Sunflower master compiled almost exactly a months later. No evidence that it was ever presented to Capitol.


No, of course you're not. Everyone knows that's my job.  ;D

Well... if asking to get back on topic doesn't work, then Sandbox it is...

Why did a legit musical topic wind up in the Sandbox? Because some looky loo who wanted to dictate how the board is run got involved and went off-topic and started getting personal with posters? Maybe that part of the thread should be deleted. Or the entire thread. And the OP should be allowed to re-start the topic on the main board. This is the second time that other person has come on a thread and hijacked it and insisted that people should post everything under old topics, using search. That's just being a difficult troll, IMO. The topic as originally posted is not a sandbox topic.

How's about the mods delete the trolling and associated posts, and get back to the original intent ? I'm cool for that.

At this point, seconded.

The techno surely exists to have all the Reverberation/Add Some Music/Sunflower tracks & outtakes on one single disc, and you simply select which of the tracklists you want to listen to at any one time.  Fully expected this thread to turn into another "Let's have a Sunflower deluxe" set discussion, which I suspect we could discuss enthusiastically for ever!

Like to make a point: note the capitalisation here...


When it's written like this, there can only be one possible intended meaning, and as one who has a branch of my family tree stop dead in 1941 (I have Roma ancestry: Hitler didn't like them much either), I find such trivialsation of what was a truly, truly awful event in world history to be deeply distasteful and disgusting. Hopefully the individual concerned - who, btw, has also used the tern "spastic" in an equally unpleasant context elsewhere - will be permanently barred. I have no desire to share this forum with such a vile troll.

Me too. I'm going to painstakingly review this entire thread and either remove the offending posts or lock this f*cker and have it started over from scratch.

Seriously, people, some of you seriously give me a massive headache.


Me too as welll...Dutch Jewish ancestry on my mom's side, so yeah, I feel the same way.

Wasn't this person claiming English wasn't "her" first language? I strongly suspect "her" entire persona is a put-on, and she/he is using it to say whatever the heck they want. I somehow don't think a person whose first language isn't English would be that capable of "accidentally" zeroing in on things that are peculiarly sensitive to English language speakers.

This is getting controversial... I'm staying out of this now!

You just blew my mind.  :brian

I reframed from mentioning it before, but my much-beloved nephew has Down's syndrone and it was with every ounce of my being that I managed to stop myself from going absolutely ballistic at Range Rover earlier in this thread.

A horrible person, who seems not to understand at all just how deeply unpleasant their comments are, or at least pretends not to. At best we get a flippant, grudging non-apology. Barred would suit me.

At this point, I'm going to close this thread. A new one can be started back up (ON TOPIC) in the main forum. Nobody is getting banned for anything in this thread, but I do advise several (not just one) posters in this thread to seriously choose your words better, I mean SERIOUSLY think before posting, and for cripes sake, if a mod tells you to get back on topic, please do it.