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Title: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Surfer on July 04, 2014, 12:09:32 PM First how many of you like Surf's up Album of 1971? I was just thinking of an Alternate Track Order of the album. My track order would be this
Don't Go Near the Water Feel Flows Fourth of July Long Promised Road The Nearest Faraway Place Pacific Ocean Blue Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again California Slide Cool Cool Water Sail on Sailor Steamboat The Trader Surf's Up Til' I Die Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: The Shift on July 04, 2014, 12:13:28 PM Brilliant! Kokomo would be the icing on the cake though!
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Niko on July 04, 2014, 12:18:44 PM That's an interesting trackist, I'll have to listen to it like that.
Here's how I normally listen to the album: Don't Go Near the Water Long Promised Road Disney Girls Student Demonstration Time Fourth of July Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again Feel Flows Lookin At Tomorrow A Day in the Life of a Tree Til I Die Surf's Up Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Surfer on July 04, 2014, 12:23:25 PM I had to take out a song to put another song in my list. California Slide AKA I'm Going your way by Dennis Wilson instead
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Sheriff John Stone on July 04, 2014, 12:23:43 PM SURF'S Up - Produced by The Beach Boys - 1971
Side 1 01 Feel Flows 02 Student Demonstration Time 03 Long Promised Road 04 (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again 05 Disney Girls Side 2 06 Don't Go Near The Water 07 Lookin' At Tomorrow 08 A Day In The Life Of A Tree 09 'Til I Die 10 Surf's Up Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bgas on July 04, 2014, 12:37:07 PM When everyone is programming their songlists, which version do you use for Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again ?
The 4:40 version from Made In california or the longer version( 7:07) I see listed on Klay's CDs( and presumed to be the same mix as on Frenchie's CD) ? Also, why take off any tracks? There'd be planty of room for all, right? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: pixletwin on July 04, 2014, 12:44:27 PM My track order:
Don't Go Near The Water Long Promised Road 4th of July Disney Girls (1957) Student Demonstration Time Feel Flows Lookin' At Tomorrow A Day in the Life of a Tree 'Til I Die (Woudn't It Be Nice) To Live Again (My own edit which takes the song to 3:34) <6 second pause) Surf's Up Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 04, 2014, 12:46:58 PM First how many of you like Surf's up Album of 1971? I was just thinking of an Alternate Track Order of the album. My track order would be this Don't Go Near the Water Feel Flows Fourth of July Long Promised Road The Nearest Faraway Place Pacific Ocean Blue Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again California Slide Cool Cool Water Sail on Sailor Steamboat The Trader Surf's Up Til' I Die Good tracklist - although I'm unsure as to whether the band were in possession of the time machine they'd have required back in 1971 to have assembled it. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: TimeToGetAlone on July 04, 2014, 02:50:10 PM I posted it in the other thread, but here it is again...
Surf's Up LP A1: 4th of July A2: Long Promised Road A3: Disney Girls (1957) A4: Don't Go Near the Water [instrumental] A5: Surf's Up B1: Lady (Fallin' in Love) B2: Feel Flows B3: A Day in the Life of a Tree B4: 'Til I Die B5: (Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again Singles Long Promised Road b/w Disney Girls (1957) Surf's Up b/w Don't Go Near the Water [Vocal Version] "Landlocked" EP - I realize not all these tracks are related to the historical Landlocked, but I wanted to group the odds and ends of the tracks above somewhere and the title fits well thematically with Surf's Up. A1: Sound of Free A2: Take a Load Off Your Feet B1: Student Demonstration Time B2: Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song) When everyone is programming their songlists, which version do you use for Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again ? My removal of tracks has to do with trying to make the best album possible from tracks considered at the time. For those which I removed, I still found a place for them on a connecting EP.The 4:40 version from Made In california or the longer version( 7:07) I see listed on Klay's CDs( and presumed to be the same mix as on Frenchie's CD) ? Also, why take off any tracks? There'd be planty of room for all, right? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Sangheon on July 05, 2014, 08:16:00 AM My track order is
Surf's Up ALBUM A1 Long Promised Road A2 Don't Go Near The Water(A2-A4 is a three part song cycle as a contemporary music at that time) A3 Lookin' At Tommorrow A4 Student Demonstration Time(Beeb sound fade out and 4th of July intro fade in) A5 4th Of july A6 Disney Girls B1 Live Again B2 Feel Flows B3 Take a Load Off Your Feet B4 A Day In the Life Of Tree B5 Till I Die B6 Surf's Up Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 05, 2014, 10:57:24 AM When everyone is programming their songlists, which version do you use for Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again ? The 4:40 version from Made In california or the longer version( 7:07) I see listed on Klay's CDs( and presumed to be the same mix as on Frenchie's CD) ? Also, why take off any tracks? There'd be planty of room for all, right? Frenchie? Did I miss something? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: runnersdialzero on July 05, 2014, 12:02:28 PM SURF'S Up - Produced by The Beach Boys - 1971 "NAZI PUNKS f*** OFF" OVERPRODUCED BY THE BEACH BOYS TAKE 93 Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Gertie J. on July 05, 2014, 01:31:11 PM When everyone is programming their songlists, which version do you use for Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again ? The 4:40 version from Made In california or the longer version( 7:07) I see listed on Klay's CDs( and presumed to be the same mix as on Frenchie's CD) ? Also, why take off any tracks? There'd be planty of room for all, right? Frenchie? Did I miss something? beachboys_fr, perhaps ? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bgas on July 05, 2014, 02:35:35 PM When everyone is programming their songlists, which version do you use for Wouldn't Be Nice to Live Again ? The 4:40 version from Made In california or the longer version( 7:07) I see listed on Klay's CDs( and presumed to be the same mix as on Frenchie's CD) ? Also, why take off any tracks? There'd be planty of room for all, right? Frenchie? Did I miss something? beachboys_fr, perhaps ? YEah, that's my reference; couldn't think of his handle. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Gabo on July 05, 2014, 03:19:45 PM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: retrokid67 on July 05, 2014, 03:21:06 PM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Mike's Beard on July 05, 2014, 04:41:49 PM Gabo please visit the 4th of July is a HELL of a song thread.
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bluesno1fann on July 05, 2014, 04:51:50 PM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? No surprises with Gabo's comment. Naturally, most people disagree, so whatever. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: retrokid67 on July 05, 2014, 05:01:35 PM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? No surprises with Gabo's comment. Naturally, most people disagree, so whatever. exactly Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 06, 2014, 12:52:06 AM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? Retrokid - please stop rising to the bait!! It's deliberate - have you not realised that by now? And the result is threads then go off on boring my-opinion-is-better-than-yours tangents. Gabo does this all the time. So he doesn't like a lot of Dennis' music? Who cares? Hey, it's his loss. Let's leave it at that. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bluesno1fann on July 06, 2014, 01:06:27 AM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? Retrokid - please stop rising to the bait!! It's deliberate - have you not realised that by now? And the result is threads then go off on boring my-opinion-is-better-than-yours tangents. Gabo does this all the time. So he doesn't like a lot of Dennis' music? Who cares? Hey, it's his loss. Let's leave it at that. That's pretty much why I gave up fighting Gabo for the most part. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: retrokid67 on July 06, 2014, 01:08:48 AM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? Retrokid - please stop rising to the bait!! It's deliberate - have you not realised that by now? And the result is threads then go off on boring my-opinion-is-better-than-yours tangents. Gabo does this all the time. So he doesn't like a lot of Dennis' music? Who cares? Hey, it's his loss. Let's leave it at that. That's pretty much why I gave up fighting Gabo for the most part. I read his comment during the same time people were arguing on the other thread. and yea there's no point arguing with him cuz half the stuff he says doesn't even make any sense to me Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bluesno1fann on July 06, 2014, 01:11:54 AM I like it the way it is. It's a quirky pop record. The overblown Dennis songs would spoil that vibe for me overblown? Retrokid - please stop rising to the bait!! It's deliberate - have you not realised that by now? And the result is threads then go off on boring my-opinion-is-better-than-yours tangents. Gabo does this all the time. So he doesn't like a lot of Dennis' music? Who cares? Hey, it's his loss. Let's leave it at that. That's pretty much why I gave up fighting Gabo for the most part. I read his comment during the same time people were arguing on the other thread. and yea there's no point arguing with him cuz half the stuff he says doesn't even make any sense to me Yeah, and it just leads to real drama magnets getting involved and leading things to blow out of proportion. So it's worth to mainly ignore his comments. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: halblaineisgood on July 06, 2014, 02:18:47 AM .
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: halblaineisgood on July 06, 2014, 02:41:11 AM .
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Cabinessenceking on July 06, 2014, 03:24:02 AM Brilliant! Kokomo would be the icing on the cake though! more like a seagull crapping on the cake Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 06, 2014, 03:37:06 AM Brilliant! Kokomo would be the icing on the cake though! more like a seagull crapping on the cake I suspect John was joking re Kokomo, using exaggeration to express bafflement at Surfer's grasp of release dates and recording history. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bluesno1fann on July 06, 2014, 03:45:27 AM I would post my tracklisting, but since this is a DDT and I posted it on an earlier thread of the same subject, then I'm not going to bother ;D
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 06, 2014, 03:58:16 AM To me, this flows perfectly...
1. Don't Go Near The Water 2. Long Promised Road 3. Take A Load Off Your Feet (yes it's relatively weak but such an otherwise dark album needs a lighter moment...) 4. Disney Girls 5. 4th Of July 6. Feel Flows 7. Lookin' At Tomorrow 8. A Day In The Life... 9. Til I Die 10. Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again (5 second pause) 11. Surf's Up Student Demonstration Time sounded so different to the conventional Beach Boys sound that - weak as it arguably is - it would've been a mistake to can it entirely. So, in my alternate reality, it would have been released as a pre-album single. This, to me, would have solved myriad issues: the sound and content of the single would have signaled that the group were 'with it' (something that was important at the time) and Surf's Up wouldn't today have a very dated anti-protest song stuck in the middle of it... I'd imagine Mike would have objected to SDT being removed from Surf's Up - this way however, his pride wouldn't have been dented (the comeback single no less!) Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: halblaineisgood on July 06, 2014, 04:02:41 AM .
Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: bluesno1fann on July 06, 2014, 04:29:20 AM DDT = Dreaded Duplicate Thread Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Tablevega on July 18, 2014, 03:46:12 AM The first Beach Boys album I ever bought after 20 Golden Greats was a cassette of Surf's Up. It's produced in England by EMI and the running order of the tracks is:
Side One: Don;t Go Near the Water; A Day in the Life of a Tree; 'Til I Die; Take a Load off Your Feet; Student Demonstration Time; Looking' at Tomorrow Side Two: Feel Flows; Long Pormised Road; Disney Girls; Surf's Up. I was surprised to find when I joined the forum that this it isn't the standard order. Does anyone know what led to this re-ordering and if this is a bootleg or what? Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on July 18, 2014, 05:28:46 AM Don't Go Near The Water
Long Promised Road Disney Girls (1957) 4th Of July Student Demonstration Time Feel Flows Take A Load Off Your Feet A Day In The Life Of A Tree 'Til I Die Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again ;D Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Please delete my account on July 18, 2014, 05:59:55 AM The first Beach Boys album I ever bought after 20 Golden Greats was a cassette of Surf's Up. It's produced in England by EMI and the running order of the tracks is: Side One: Don;t Go Near the Water; A Day in the Life of a Tree; 'Til I Die; Take a Load off Your Feet; Student Demonstration Time; Looking' at Tomorrow Side Two: Feel Flows; Long Pormised Road; Disney Girls; Surf's Up. I was surprised to find when I joined the forum that this it isn't the standard order. Does anyone know what led to this re-ordering and if this is a bootleg or what? Could be to make the sides of more equal length so you don't have to fast forward so much at the end of the shorter side? Or else pure record company whimsicality. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Bill M on July 18, 2014, 07:18:28 AM The first Beach Boys album I ever bought after 20 Golden Greats was a cassette of Surf's Up. It's produced in England by EMI and the running order of the tracks is: Side One: Don;t Go Near the Water; A Day in the Life of a Tree; 'Til I Die; Take a Load off Your Feet; Student Demonstration Time; Looking' at Tomorrow Side Two: Feel Flows; Long Pormised Road; Disney Girls; Surf's Up. I was surprised to find when I joined the forum that this it isn't the standard order. Does anyone know what led to this re-ordering and if this is a bootleg or what? It wasn't unusual for the record companies to rearrange the track orders on cassettes & 8-tracks, in order to make the sides or programs of near equal length, as mentioned above by unreleased backgrounds. It also saved them money on the amount of tape used in the shell, which could be significant on duplication runs in the millions of units. Sometimes the artists were consulted on the revised track order, but the record companies always had the final say since it's all about the profit margin for them. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: rab2591 on July 18, 2014, 07:47:17 AM Here is the track list I came up with a while back:
1. Sound Of Free 2. Disney Girls 3. 4th of July 4. Don't Go Near The Water 5. (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again 6. Feel Flows 7. Fallin' In Love (2009 mix) 8. A Day In The Life Of A Tree 9. Til I Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS34TZR3SNY) 10. Surf's Up (TSS) Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Loves The Sunflower on July 18, 2014, 08:27:24 AM To me, this flows perfectly... 1. Don't Go Near The Water 2. Long Promised Road 3. Take A Load Off Your Feet (yes it's relatively weak but such an otherwise dark album needs a lighter moment...) 4. Disney Girls 5. 4th Of July 6. Feel Flows 7. Lookin' At Tomorrow 8. A Day In The Life... 9. Til I Die 10. Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again (5 second pause) 11. Surf's Up... 8) Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: Tablevega on July 18, 2014, 10:56:39 AM The first Beach Boys album I ever bought after 20 Golden Greats was a cassette of Surf's Up. It's produced in England by EMI and the running order of the tracks is: Side One: Don;t Go Near the Water; A Day in the Life of a Tree; 'Til I Die; Take a Load off Your Feet; Student Demonstration Time; Looking' at Tomorrow Side Two: Feel Flows; Long Pormised Road; Disney Girls; Surf's Up. I was surprised to find when I joined the forum that this it isn't the standard order. Does anyone know what led to this re-ordering and if this is a bootleg or what? It wasn't unusual for the record companies to rearrange the track orders on cassettes & 8-tracks, in order to make the sides or programs of near equal length, as mentioned above by unreleased backgrounds. It also saved them money on the amount of tape used in the shell, which could be significant on duplication runs in the millions of units. Sometimes the artists were consulted on the revised track order, but the record companies always had the final say since it's all about the profit margin for them. Thanks for the information, Bill. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: yonderhillside on July 18, 2014, 02:16:47 PM I called it Landlocked because I displaced "Surf's Up" back to where it belongs. 1. Loop de Loop 2. Take a Load Off Your Feet 3. Disney Girls (1957) 4. 4th of July 5. Don't Go Near The Water 6. Sound of Free 7. Fallin' In Love 8. Feel Flows 9. 'Til I Die (Desper Mix) 10. A Day In The Life of a Tree 11. (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again Half goofy/half darkly depressing and more Dennis-centric. Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: rogerlancelot on July 18, 2014, 04:25:43 PM I rather like:
Long Promised Road Feel Flows A Day In The Life Of A Tree 'Til I Die (long version) Surf's Up But it's too short for an album. Maybe if I added a few Dennis songs it might work? :smokin jk, folks! (please do not respond with hate, this was a joke) Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: feelsflow on July 19, 2014, 11:13:32 AM Brilliant! Kokomo would be the icing on the cake though! more like a seagull crapping on the cake It's all in good clean fun! Title: Re: Surf's Up Alternate Track Order Post by: sockittome on July 19, 2014, 11:40:14 PM I rather like: Long Promised Road Feel Flows A Day In The Life Of A Tree 'Til I Die (long version) Surf's Up But it's too short for an album. Maybe if I added a few Dennis songs it might work? :smokin jk, folks! (please do not respond with hate, this was a joke) Actually.....you kinda nailed it! ;D |