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I really appreciate seltaeb1012002's Smile Mixer's Toolkit. It was an invaluable asset for me in working on my mix, I especially loved the inclusion of the "ooooos" from Barnyard, as I'd been looking for those for a long time.

That being said, does anyone have a cleaner isolation of the Backing vocals for He Gives Speeches? I wanted to experiment with using them with the "Rock, Rock Roll" parts of Worms, but the piano in the background, however faint, ruins it.

I've tried doing it myself, but I'm not talented enough at isolations to produce one that's "clean."

I may be pushing my luck with this next request, but are there any isolated vocals from the Surf's Up coda? I thought I'd try overlaying the "have you listened as they play?" Lyrics on top of the fadeout of CIFOTM in my mix.

If anyone could help me out with either of these, it'd really mean a lot. Thanks in advance.

I don't know if that's what you're looking for but there's an "acapella" version of "Surf's Up" on some bootleg but I don't remember on which. 

Get the Boot Volume 1. Great bootleg.  :)

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The Endless Harmony DVD centre channel mix of Surf's Up presents an almost perfectly isolated Al vocal in the tag.

You mean this? I'm not sure what you mean by center channel mix, tho. Like isolate just the center channel?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00004RETT?pc_redir=1402662240&robot_redir=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00004RETT?pc_redir=1402662240&robot_redir=1)

Thanks for the recommendation. And thanks everyone, for the replies. I'm just trying to use as much of the material as possible without breaking the flow.

Maybe a ridiculous question, but does anyone else think Al's vocal might've been at least one of the originally intended lyrics for the CIFOTM verse? Ive been starting to wonder if the '71 Surf's Up coda was a genuinely vintage piece from a 1967 Surf's Up or another recycled SMiLE fragment from an abandoned song. After the trumpet theme was reused for Little Bird, it's doubtful CIFOTM would ever see the light of day.

It makes sense that since the original insumentation wasn't used for whatever reason that Brian would feel the need to add something to 'sweeten' Surfs Up in 1971. But I think if it was originally there in 1967 Brian wouldve sung the main lyrics Al sang in the 71 version on TV or during the Wild Honey sessions.

If there's also just the isolated "child, child a-child, father of the man" lyrics from Surf's Up '71, I might try overlaying them back in the coda as well the next time around. It's just I really wanted to try out the coda with the eerie horn section of Talking Horns, but I thought it'd sound too busy with the full '71 coda overtop of it. Without Al's lyrics and the "Na-Na's" tho, I think it could work out with the other vocal parts and trumpets. And then this way, you get the reprise of Child to tie the suite together, but each song remains its own seperate entity and we can enjoy what I think is somewhat closer to what a fully-formed '67 Surf's Up may have been.

That's it.

Wait, where one could find this?

Jack Rieley claimed to have written the new lyrics of the 1971 coda. Or rather, he said words to the effect of "I have to be careful here because the credited writers are Brian Wilson and Van Dyke Parks", then listed all the people involved who DIDN'T write those lyrics, leaving the reader to conclude they were his by process of elimination. I just searched for the thread where this interview was posted but it seems to have been wiped or else it's unavailable at the moment. N.B. Some here advise that Rieley's words are always to be read sceptically.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12503.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12503.0.html)

Very interesting. Either way, that proves my hypothesis that the '71 coda wouldnt have been part of the song in 1967. I guess it was a long-shot to assume Al's vocal was the CIFOTM verse-lyrics...but what can I say, I'm desperate to know what they would've been, haha.

While searching for something else I belatedly found the interview with the exact quote:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9651.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9651.0.html)

Subject: RE: SURF:S UP
From: dave prokopy
To: pet-sounds@lists.primenet.com
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 1996 1:39 PM

> The couplet was written during the recording of the moving
> backgrounds for the Surfs Up album.

by whom? you? brian? carl? al? van dyke?

(sorry to pester you about this - as many people on this list know,
i'm a HUGE Smile fanatic, so these little tidbits are indespensible
to me!)

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Subject: RE: SURF:S UP
From: Jack Rieley
To: pet-sounds@lists.primenet.com
Date: Oct 17 1996 - 1:47pm

Dave,

There's no writer's credit officially given, so I am somewhat
reticent about this question. How about this.... it was not Brian,
Carl, Jardine, Love, Johnston, Van Dyke Parks, Dennis or Steve
Desper.

Perhaps you will excuse this admittedly chicken-sh*t way around your
question. The couplet's authorship should of course have been
credited. It was not.

- Jack

Huh. Well, I guess now I don't feel the need to include those lyrics then, if it's pretty obviously not vintage 1966/7. Thanks for answering that question for me. Maybe I'll still add them anyway if they fit together.

I'd still be interested in isolated HGS backing vocals and those isolated "hawaiian bits" from Wonderful Version 2 Tag that I used in my take of Look. Should any of these exist.

"seltaeb1012002's Smile Mixer's Toolkit"

And where can we find such a piece?  :)

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Well thank you com'rade

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