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Title: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: dombanzai on May 29, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
Forgive me if this has been covered before, but who is the drummer pictured on the sleeve as it sure does not look like Dennis? There's Bruce, Carl, Al and Mike, in the picture and some chap I do not recognise in the stool. Is 1967 too late for Mark Groseclose? It doesn't look like him anyway. Cheers for any help.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Gertie J. on May 29, 2014, 02:58:42 PM
mark played drums for bb in '63.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Mikie on May 29, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
What country is the sleeve from?  You're not talking about the U.S. one, because there's no drummer on the sleeve.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Gertie J. on May 29, 2014, 03:02:50 PM
belgium ?


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: dombanzai on May 29, 2014, 03:09:05 PM
What country is the sleeve from?  You're not talking about the U.S. one, because there's no drummer on the sleeve.

Do not know which country, but it has K23686 on the top left corner and is from a shot of the boys in concert, with usual candy striped shirts and white trousers.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Gertie J. on May 29, 2014, 03:14:39 PM
ah, germany


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: metal flake paint on May 29, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: metal flake paint on May 29, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
belgium ?

Speaking of, does anyone else agree that the guy in the foreground is Derek Taylor?


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: dombanzai on May 29, 2014, 03:31:56 PM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Mikie on May 29, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
7" 45 rpm. The Beach Boys.  Darlin'/Here Today. Capitol K 23 686. Germany 1967.

I have the record and sleeve in my collection and the drummer is definitely Dennis Wilson. No question about it.

And the guy with the yellow shirt and glasses standing in front of the stage kinda looks like Derek Taylor, but I doubt it.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: metal flake paint on May 29, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers

Furthermore, Dennis wasn't listed as missing during any 1967 concerts covered in "The Beach Boys In Concert" book by Ian and Jon.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 29, 2014, 06:51:46 PM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers
It's obviously Dennis. How could you mistake that profile?


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: dombanzai on May 29, 2014, 11:25:30 PM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers
It's obviously Dennis. How could you mistake that profile?

When you're looking at a grainy image of him less than a centimetre square with a not-Dennis like haircut.... Well, that's my excuse anyway.

And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 30, 2014, 12:10:46 AM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers
It's obviously Dennis. How could you mistake that profile?

When you're looking at a grainy image of him less than a centimetre square with a not-Dennis like haircut.... Well, that's my excuse anyway.

And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?

They probably just didn't take the time to record a proper B-side so they chose an album track they thought should have more exposure.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: metal flake paint on May 30, 2014, 01:12:08 AM
Yep, that's Dennis with a buzz cut. He was similarly shorn during the Lei'd in Hawaii footage from An American Band.

Really? Not convinced, but if you say so... Cheers
It's obviously Dennis. How could you mistake that profile?

When you're looking at a grainy image of him less than a centimetre square with a not-Dennis like haircut.... Well, that's my excuse anyway.

And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?

Not all of the 45s had Darlin' b/w Here Today. Some countries, namely Denmark, Greece, Italy and England had Darlin' backed with Country Air.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Micha on May 30, 2014, 06:40:26 AM
And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?

The obvious answer: Here Today is my favorite BB song and Darlin' is the favorite song of my favorite Smiley Smile board member. ;D


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 30, 2014, 07:35:01 AM
And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?

The obvious answer: Here Today is my favorite BB song and Darlin' is the favorite song of my favorite Smiley Smile board member. ;D
Who is that lucky? smilethebeachboysloveyou? Glenn Grinberg? The 4th Wilson Bro.?


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Micha on May 30, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
And anyway, why back Darlin' with Here Today?

The obvious answer: Here Today is my favorite BB song and Darlin' is the favorite song of my favorite Smiley Smile board member. ;D
Who is that lucky? smilethebeachboysloveyou? Glenn Grinberg? The 4th Wilson Bro.?

You'd like to know, eh? (http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/cool.gif)

Actually that person stopped posting about half a year ago, unfortunately. :'(


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: VanDykeParksAndRec on May 30, 2014, 10:18:12 AM
This Sleeve is another good example of an awful picture decision,  the band with 4 guys not paying any attention to them....  ???


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 30, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
Actually that person stopped posting about half a year ago, unfortunately. :'(
Got it. I liked Mr. Eder too, kinda sad that he doesn't post anymore, though he was made an honored guest. I think he deserves it.


Title: Re: Darlin/Here Today single sleeve
Post by: Micha on June 02, 2014, 02:57:59 AM
Actually that person stopped posting about half a year ago, unfortunately. :'(
Got it. I liked Mr. Eder too, kinda sad that he doesn't post anymore, though he was made an honored guest. I think he deserves it.

No, it was not Mr. Eder.