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I reckon and assume they have got a few more years as an active band, whether in factions or united. How do you think the endgame will break down?

It was hinted that another reunion tour would be launched after a year's break, so as not to overdo it. That means we are due for another reunion tour, possibly farewell tour, in 2015.

Brian will release another solo project with Jeff Beck, that much we know. But how about the oft-mentioned rock'n'roll roots album with the Beach Boys? The one to feature a cover of "Proud Mary", among other things?

Will there be any more archival releases, or has that well run dry? In fact, they could continue the archival releases even after they have retired.

May 2016 - the Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary concert. You read it here first. Ages at 12/31/14:

Mike - 73
Brian - 72
Alan - 72
Bruce - 72
David - 66

And, ah, a year's break after the C50 would be this year... and trust me, that is NOT happening (any more than a BW album with Jeff Beck on it is).

That Pet Sounds concert may well come to fruition, could be their final bow. I didn't know that the Jeff Beck collaboration had been shelved.  Is C50 already two years ago, it's all a blur to me, this century.  :-[

It isn't. At least not officially. I guess AGD was making an assumption based on how things are looking (belly up) at the moment. And there's a good chance he's right. :-\

There was never a "Jeff Beck" album, only a Brian solo record for which Jeff collaborated on a few cuts, which may or may not be included when the lp is released (probably not, going by recent interviews).

There will never be another Beach Boys album, nor will there ever be another reunion tour. There is a possibility that there might still be a reunion concert or 2 in the near future,but I wouldn't count on it.

I would love a farewell pet sounds show.

you seem pretty certain of these things, I'll just have to take your word for it. Actually, if you search Wilson Beck on amazon, nothing comes up. In a way I am cool with there being no more BB albums, the last one was a solid job, best thing in years, decades even. I had hoped for a farewell tour, but if that is not to be, then I've got the memories. Will catch Mike and Bruce in August, not that I need it, 25th concert and all, but since nothing else is happening, might as well.

I mentioned I could see offers for a PS 50 Tour back in Sept 12, especially from the UK. Guess we will see if it is a pipe dream in the future.

As Al has mentioned, Mike will try to be the last man standing. He will be happy doing a rest- home tour at 90. Bruce doesn't seem to have any reason to quit anytime soon either. Brian does not have a full concert in him now I feel. He needs others as support and that may be a continuation of his own group plus Al, Dave or even various BB off-spring.

There's gonna be a Beach Boys 60th anniversary tour, definetely. Mike's there as always, Bruce wears the same shorts as always, Al will be rocking with the best voice ever, David is getting close to adultness and Brian will be showing his skills with bass 60 pounds lighter and happy as ever (or he's lying on a stretcher behind the piano to sing Surfer Girl...) Anyway, you get the point  :lol

Jeff Beck may be on a track or two of Brian's latest album, just to save face, if they possibly can use those particular songs. But he will be threatened with a lawsuit if he opens his mouth about it when it's released.

Always the best way to get a great product! ::)

Right, it's only going to be a couple of becking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upmtawWwXmg) tracks anyway.

Jeff Beck fired Brian Wilson. Jeff told Brian he was only available for so long, but now Beck's back on the road with his old band, making more money and picking up girls.

I really do wonder if they are all in good health, if there will indeed be a reunion for a Pet Sounds performance or possibly even a tour. I honestly think that would be a great thing for them to cap their career with. Maybe have Brian write a few new songs with Tony Asher and have them record them too.

It's good to see you're jumping in early AND being positive this time because you could not have been more wrong in your predictions about the 50th Anniversary reunion album and tour. ;)

Ah... back then I was uninformed.

and now you are informed?

Once the C50 crumbled like a stale cracker, I always contended that IF the group was going to take the stage together one last time it would be for "Pet Sounds" 50th anniversary in 2016.  My guess is IF this is to be, it won't be another C50 style tour with them touring the world with concerts based around performing "Pet Sounds" in it's entirety (much like BW did in 2002) but instead will probably be limited to one or two performances in California which will likely be filmed and recorded for DVD/CD release.  No new album, no world tour or anything like that unfortunately given how the C50 ended.

Also expect the requisite "50th Anniversary Now Sounding Better Than Ever Remaster" of "Pet Sounds" to hit shops as well!

I think they could make a tour out of "Pet Sounds At 50". I could see an opening set with songs that feature mostly Mike and Al on lead vocals because they are hardly on Pet Sounds. Then a twenty minute intermission. When they come back they could do Pet Sounds in its entirety, and close the show with their traditional home stretch. I guess it would be similar to how Brian toured it back in the day.

I think there would almost as much but not quite as much demand as the 50th Anniversary tour. It would sell out, though. There are two reasons it has a chance. First would be the $$$$$$$$$ which is the most important factor in any Beach Boys' endeavor. Second, you wouldn't have to deal with the Mike Love "I want to sit in a room and write with Brian" issue because there's no new album to record.

The one factor that concerns me is Brian's health. Lately I have been looking at some photos of Brian over the last three or four years. He has not aged well and, frankly, I'm concerned about him. Pet Sounds is not an easy album to carry and I don't know if he would be up to it. Of course he could give some Pet Sounds' leads to Al but then you dilute the product, much like the same effect you have with Brian singing Mike's and Carl's parts in his solo shows.

Hey at this stage anything is a bonus. I assumed they would retire at 50! :lol

Damn, you guys sure are picky. Hell, if you're gonna think like that then I say it's a total rip if Brian cannot perform them vocally, like he did in 1966. Al has been singing WIBN in concert since it was released. Were Beach Boys shows diluted when Dennis or Carl sang Rhonda? These guys have been interchanging lead vocals for most of their career. Shoot, let's have David sing all 11 leads on the PS 50 Tour. ;)

I don't think Brian has aged that badly. I know people are concerned about his weight, but there's newer research that shows people that are overweight or even obese past the age of 65 can live as long as people who aren't.  It can even be a benefit to have extra weight if you get an illness like pneumonia where many people wind up losing weight, and the more fat you have, the more reserves you have to keep you going. His pot belly looks like having a bad back and weak ab muscles making the fat look worse.  I predict Brian will live a very long time and will be able to work for years to come. All the people who put him down will be surprised, including Jeff Beck.

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These are a couple of very good points. Research is currently saying that people of average weight or who are slightly overweight (but not obese) live longer than thin people. The reasons aren't quite clear. In addition, people with back problems often have poor posture which creates a pot belly due to extreme curvature in the low back. Brian tends to slouch down in his chair in the pictures we've seen, which is understandable if his back is a problem.  I guess my point is that he may not be as overweight as he seems in the pictures, and even if he is carrying a few extra pounds, it might not be a cause for immediate concern.

The Queen Mother of England lived to be 102, and she was fairly heavy later in life.  Here's a pic of the Queen Mum at age 101, still able to stand on her own two feet:

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The whole thing about being old, and overweight particularly applies to men because of the different way in which fat grows on men as opposed to women.  Men develop fat under their muscle, which can form around organs like the heart and cause problems.  Women tend to grow fat just under their skin, which is much healthier.

However with that said, anytime you look at any type of statistic, there are correlated factors going on.... for instance, one of the reasons that fat men don't live long, is because in general they're not concerned about their health and never go to the doctor.  The fat is a symptom of the fact that they don't take care of themselves... and ultimately not taking care of themselves kills them off, NOT the fat, which is just a symptom.  Of course being overweight causes issues too, but just because you're fat doesn't mean you're doomed to die young.

Brian doesn't fall into that category.  He's been under the care and watch of tons of doctors for decades.  He's probably healthy as a horse.  The picture of the Queen Mother is an example of a rich, famous individual with the best doctors in the world and the longevity and good health that developed partially because of it.   Brian enjoys the same luxury.

There's recently been studies too that suggest that heart attack patients, even extremely heavy ones, actually OUTLIVE many thinner patients who develop heart diseases... largely because after they have blockages or whatever removed from their arteries the extra weight helps them fend off all the other type of sicknesses us thinner people succumb to.

Ultimately the good lord decides when any of us go, but I know for a fact Brian is surrounded by plenty of people completely concerned about his health and I have no doubt he'll outlive most of us :)

The Beach Boys had their moment with C50; 2015 will belong to the 25th anniversary tour of Wilson Phillips.

She was well-preserved, attributed by some to a healthy intake of G&T.

I saw her on her Pet Sounds 30th anniversary tour in 1996 though and she sounded crap. Couldn't sing for toffee.

I expect them to regroup in 2024 for the 50th anniversary of Mike Love's concept album.

That`s interesting. When people talk about the Japanese being the longest living people in the world I had no idea that they were only referring to the sumo wrestlers.  ;)

And here I thought that Brian lost all that weight in 1976 and 1983...for health reasons. Silly me.

Being overweight and morbidly obese are two very different things. Brian has a bit of a gut now, but he is nowhere close to the weight that he was in either 1976 or 1983.

Does aynone think that Mike will ever retire? I think he'll rock till he drops. He must be enjoying himself don't you think? I'm surprised that Bruce hasn't grown tired of the road. He still produces albums, doesn't he? He'll be in the studio when all is done.

If Mike does retire (due to age and health?) I can see Al taking the lead for the Beach Boys. Al's voice is too good to stop anytime soon. I'd like to see a Al/David BB touring group someday.

I don't know but I think that Brian would be glad to retire. He's accomplished quite a bit with Smile nd his solo career. He can rest easy.

My question is who will get the Beach Boys name when everyone retires? David? The kids?

Oh, I think he is, at least as much as in 1976 - when he was 34 years old.

Hey, I'm not hammering the guy. If I wanted to hammer him, I would. There's enough out there. I'm just expressing concern. I want Brian to stay a lot longer, too. But, at the same time, I'm not one of those "well, I just hope he's happy..." guys. It's one thing to see doctors, it's another thing to follow their directions. That might be the one (and only?) thing we have in common with Brian Wilson. :police:

As long as Mike is healthy I beleive he will keep on going. He's constantly referencing Tony Benett and how he is still going strong well into his 80's and I gotta beleve that's Mike's goal as well.  "Betcha boys we'll be doing it in our eighties"

Brian was well over 300 lbs both times and he is nowhere near that size now. Brian is 6'2" I believe, and should weigh between 200-220 lbs. I doubt that he is higher than between 240-250. Hell, my Doctor doesn't get on me at all and I'm the the same height and weigh 243 lbs. I doubt his doctors are too concerned with the weight so long as he is still walking and keeping toned
up.

Brian weighed around 225 around the time of Imagination, by his own admission. Id venture he's a good 40 pounds heavier now

She had a battery in her hat, though.

:lol

I 'know' someone who'd be very interested in that technology. ^-^

But you’ve been wrong before.

Well once or twice anyway……

 8)

Really, there are only two rules when reading AGD's posts: 

1; AGD is never wrong. 
2; see rule # 1

I'm not saying it's a good thing to be as overweight as Brian is, but it may not be the be-all/end-all. At least he's at a weight now where even losing ten or twenty pounds could help. As opposed to needing to lose 75-100 pounds, which he did successfully in the past.

When was the last time you heard of a fat guy, who was in his 70's, having a heart attack?  It doesn't work like that, he would already be dead if the weight was going to kill him.  He prob. has his blood pressure, cholesterol, sugar levels, etc. checked every fucking day with as many shrinks and docs he has poking and prodding him the last 35 years...

Once your his age, I'd get more worried if we saw him start LOSING a bunch of weight!  Look at the mo'fos forearms, he isn't going anywhere anytime soon he looks like a gorilla!