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Title: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album. So I'd thought I'd make a tracklist of what I'd thought would work well.

I opened with Sail On Sailor. It then goes into Here She Comes. It slows down with Only With You then picks pace up again with Funky Pretty. Side 2 begins with the rocking Marcella. It then has the 3-part California Saga followed by Hold On Dear Brother. Side 3 and record 2 begins with You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone. It then slows down for Steamboat before going into He Come Down. The side finishes with Leavin' This Town. Side Four begins with the last fast song The Trader. It then has the CATP ballads to end.

Carl and the Passions: Holland
1.   Sail On Sailor
2.   Here She Comes
3.   Only With You
4.   Funky Pretty

5.   Marcella
6.   California Saga: Big Sur
7.   Beaks Of Eagles
8.   California
9.   Hold On Dear Brother

10.    You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
11.    Steamboat
12.    He Come Down
13.    Leavin’ This Town

14.    The Trader
15.    Make It Good
16.    All This Is That
17.    Cuddle Up


It's kinda like The Beach Boys' White Album. What would be your order?

Alternate List with unreleased tracks
1.   Sail On Sailor
2.   Here She Comes
3.   Only With You
4.   Funky Pretty
5.   Hard Times

6.   Marcella
7.   California Saga: Big Sur
8.   Beaks Of Eagles
9.   California
10.  We Got Love

11.    You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
12.    Hold On Dear Brother
13.    Steamboat
14.    He Come Down
15.    Leavin’ This Town

16.    The Trader
17.    Make It Good
18.    Carry Me Home
19.    All This Is That
20.    Cuddle Up


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: halblaineisgood on March 19, 2014, 11:09:57 PM
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Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 19, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!

Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.

What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: RiC on March 19, 2014, 11:29:41 PM
Yep, that's pretty great running order. My only change would be to put Steamboat somewhere else, it's too slow to come after a rocker one. We got love would fit perfectly somewhere there.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 11:45:06 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!

Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.

What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?

I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on March 19, 2014, 11:47:53 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!

Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.

What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?

I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.

What are you waiting for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGk8xAHHDw


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 20, 2014, 12:17:44 AM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!

Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.

What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?

I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.

What are you waiting for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGk8xAHHDw

And of course: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bV4xsbTZik

Can't forget Hard Times  :rock :rock :rock


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 20, 2014, 12:45:35 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.

Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here  :-D

Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0 Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U Barnyard Blues

Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:52:11 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.

Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here  :-D

Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0 Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U Barnyard Blues

Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!

Imagine if they recorded It's A New Day for Wild Honey! That would be the best.
Barnyard Blues is from 1974 so I wouldn't include it. It's A New Day doesn't really fit the mood of the album. Out In The Country isn't finished.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 20, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.

Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here  :-D

Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0 Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U Barnyard Blues

Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!

Imagine if they recorded It's A New Day for Wild Honey! That would be the best.
Barnyard Blues is from 1974 so I wouldn't include it. It's A New Day doesn't really fit the mood of the album. Out In The Country isn't finished.

To be fair, none of them are finished (Especially Carry Me Home), including the first 3 I mentioned (except We Got Love).
You may have a point with Barnyard Blues, though I mentioned it so you include every song made during the Chaplin/Fataar era. I think It's A New Day does fit in, and CATP and Holland aren't the most cohesive BB's album's made  :lol


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: bgas on March 20, 2014, 06:11:40 AM
Aw man, Vacation's over already?  It seemed REALLY short


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Niko on March 20, 2014, 06:46:25 AM
Some said it wouldn't last
All we can say is we're still having a blast

Spring vacation, good vibrations
Summer weather, we're back together  :-D


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Bicyclerider on March 20, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
I'd remove Beaks of Eagles, Here She Comes, and Make It Good.

Add It's a New Day, Hard Times, We Got Love, Carry Me Home.



Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on March 21, 2014, 06:08:18 PM
I have made my own that I've stuck with for several years:

1. Sail on Sailor
2. Marcella
3. Hold On Dear Brother
4. Trader
5. All This is That

6. Funky Pretty
7. Here She Comes
8. A Mess of Help
9. Leaving this Town
10. Carry Me Home

11. Big Sur
12. Beaks of Eagles
13. California
14. Steam Boat
15. Fourth of July

16. Mt Vernon and Fairway

(Gap to surprise track...)
17. He Come Down


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 21, 2014, 10:39:54 PM
Nice order but I'd would keep Cuddle Up on there.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 22, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
Nice order but I'd would keep Cuddle Up on there.

I wonder if the BBs ever considered releasing a double studio album of new material, at any point in their career. SMiLE's potential running length notwithstanding, of course. I think Carl and the Passions and Holland would have been pretty rad.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 22, 2014, 06:01:40 AM
The Beach Boys - Sail On Sailor

Side 1

01  Sail On Sailor
02  The Trader
03  California Saga: Big Sur
04  California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles
05  California Saga: California
06  Funky But Pretty

Side 2

07  You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
08  Marcella
09  Only With You
10  All This Is That
11  Cuddle Up 

If Side 2 drags a little bit at the end, flip-flop "Marcella" and "Only With You", but, lyrically I think it works better sequenced the other way.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 22, 2014, 06:37:27 AM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.

Carl & The Passions originally was a double album. :p


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: shangaijoeBB on March 22, 2014, 08:24:17 AM
One rock oriented "songs" album and one concept album ;)
(I would leave "Cuddle Up" and "Make It Good" off the album for a solo Dennis Wilson LP)

Side 1

01 Sail On, Sailor
02 Here She Comes
03 All This Is That
04 Hard Times
05 Funky Pretty

Side 2

06 You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
07 We Got Love
08 Marcella
09 Hold On Dear Brother
10 Carry Me Home

Side 3

11 The Trader
12 Steamboat
13 California Saga: Big Sur
14 California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles
15 California Saga: California

Side 4

16 Mt. Vernon and Fairway Theme
17 I'm The Pied Piper (instrumental)
18 Better Get Back In Bed
19 Magic Transistor Radio
20 I'm The Pied Piper
21 Radio King Dom


pretty amazing double album!  :o


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: slippingonthrough on March 23, 2014, 11:48:51 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.

Carl & The Passions originally was a double album. :p

It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Niko on March 24, 2014, 04:58:40 AM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.

Carl & The Passions originally was a double album. :p

It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.

What?


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on March 24, 2014, 07:26:21 AM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.

Carl & The Passions originally was a double album. :p

It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.

What?

The album was initially packaged with Pet Sounds (at least in some places).  I believe it was actually advertised as Pet Sounds with CATP as a bonus album.


Title: Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
Post by: Niko on March 24, 2014, 08:58:02 PM
I know about that, I actually have a 1972 press of CATP + Pet Sounds. What I didn't understand was the comment about Pet Sounds not getting respect 'around here'