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If you saw Dennis Wilson what would you say to him and why?

What's it like hanging out with Elvis, Jim Morrison and Tupac?

Well first I'd check if I was alive, to make sure I wasn't in a Twilight Zone situation. Then I'd ask Dennis when the last time he saw Brian was, and depending on his answer get them in contact. It always makes me sad that Brian is the last one around.

What song that he recorded was he most proud of, and, if he was totally honest, what did he really think of Mike Love?

I'd probably be too busy yelling something about zombies to really ask him any questions.

I find it hard to imagine how Dennis would look and how he would act today....

Denny 'looked' so old in 82 and 83..... and that's 30 some years ago...

sheesh!

RickB

u look better without a beard

Don't waste your breath Surfer, Denny would want nothing to do with you

....and Carl?


Or is Dennis in a different place?

I would ask him if he hangs out with Chris Farley and if they both watch David Spade movies.

He didn't look healthy, indeed. But Brian didn't either in 1982. I think that Denny really could have had a rejuvenation; if he'd done serious behavioral therapy. I am not one of those that are fatalistic about his life, like accepting the grim and resignating attitude that is expressed by this deterministic way of saying it: he just was that way, he wasn't meant to grow old, he lived the fast life.

It's the romantic rock 'n' roll fantasy, it's glossing over a lot of things, in fact. People who are as addicted as Denny was don't have many peaceful moments, if any; there is never rest, or the option of taking a distanced view; there's very much unhappiness, craving, insomnia, and desperate longing for substances if there are none present. No joy at all.

The main problem, from a medical point of view, is, IMHO: someone who lives like Dennis did for many years can't imagine how it is to live free of substances at all any more. Chronic use alters the brain, it hugely impairs one's capacities for decision-making, it hijacks one's free will (which gets totally out of any sound working order), and the result is: where in non-addicts there is a fine balance in weighing the options that are about short-term rewards versus long-term ones (in re: happiness and satisfaction), in addicts this balance is made undone. They can't for the life of them see, envision, make a prognosis of what would be the result of efforts that will bring good feelings in the long run. There is only blindness there, metaphorically speaking. Conversely, anything that has to do with gratification in the very, very short run, immediate reward, that fuels them to procure what they need, regardless of the consequences.

I realise that I seem to be contradicting myself here; but that's not the case. The condition I described is not irreversible. But healing requires an intense form of therapy, leaving drug buddies behind, and that for a prolonged time.

The kind of therapy that Brian initially had, and that saved his life.

And I am certain that all of you see the irony here, regarding that which happened later.

Well I'd ask him what was it like living on the other side.. And what he thought of Brian finishing SMILE and how Carl was doin..  Ask him what changes he would make in his prior life so he could have a better life here with fewer regrets.. Any Messages for Brian or the other guys..??  And I'd tell him come on over anytime when you feel like talking.. I can see Dennis now sittin at a keyboard with his left hand and index finger cupping his left ear and cuddling the mike and singing FOREVER.. The band in heaven + hell is rather large so I don't think he is playing drums.. He is a composer and singer.. Dennis's best music is all about love + tenderness..  A good fit for heaven. I pray he made it..

Anyone got a submarine and scuba equipment I could borrow to be able to search for him at the bottom of the Pacific?

Here you go.  Knock yourself out:

33° 53.9 N, 118° 38.8 W   +/- a few degrees.

To me sir you are Heckler!    I would say to Dennis Wilson let's finish Bamboo album and we would go Surfin and check out the Surfer Girls then drag race through Drag City!  To be all Seriousness i would say to him why would you drown in 1983 bro

 ???

Good lord your English is Broken! But what do I expect from a Troll?

And you're getting 1983 Dennis mixed up with 1963 Dennis  ;D

It's not like he wanted to drown, it just happened. Anyone with common sense could see that...

the joke I was trying to make was that Elvis, Morrison and tupac are still alive somewhere and Dennis is hanging out with them on a desert island.

Honestly, this thread is horrendous.

Agreed. Wouldn't mind seeing this asinine offensive thread deleted or locked by the mods and Surfer going the way of Newguy562 and Oldsurferdude. It's unbelievable that OSD in particular is banned and Surfer isn't...

I'd say to Dennis, "Whatever you do, don't listen to any music by the Beach Boys or watch any footage of the Beach Boys in the decades from 1983 on-wards. You may find this hard to believe Dennis, but things got much, much worse".

I'd like to start a petition to get the Taste & Hypocracy Police involve here.

Not funny...

I'm neither a Hypocrite or a Troll, so your argument is invalid

Who said my post referred to you?

If it isn't, then I apologize. It's just that in the other Surfer thread Woodstock and Bubbly have been falsely accusing me to be a hypocrite

Surely that should be "accusing me of hypocracy" or "accusing me of being a hypocrit"?

Don't waste your breath Jarhead, Surfer's thread has enough answers without your acid.



I don't know how to tell you but on this thread you ARE a troll. A troll with good English, but still a troll.

I'm not a troll... Surfer has already admitted at least once that he is indeed a Troll...
This thread along with the many other Surfer threads are obviously nonsense and are some of the most ridiculous that has come out of this forum, as well as how this particular is to an extent fairly disrespectful to Dennis. It's like getting a dead person resurrected (and as someone already said, like a Zombie) and asking asinine questions like "Why would you drown bro".
I'd like to know why you keep coming to his defence... and I'd also like to know why I keep bothering on commenting on Surfer's threads?  :-\

BTW Kudos on you for at least getting my username Jarhead correct instead of the obviously inflammatory "Jughead" that others have used :)

I'm going to propose a poll on the topic of "should we just ignore all Surfers future posts ?" - put me down for a "yes".

I bet you guys would be best friends. Bambooooooo needs more surfin music so I think you could have really helped Dennis.

Who would win the drag race? and would you get more surfer girls than Dennis?

A drag race? Is that "fastest into a dress"?

John, post of the week.... :lol

Would someone please tell me where Drag City is..?  I have no idea.. ::)

Made my day.  :lol

Sorry for the late answer.


What bad does he do? Mostly ask questions that seem pretty stupid to most of us. I just don't get why that should be annoying to me. Stupidity is not a sin. Surfer hardly ever posts outside the threads he created himself. If he was spamming other threads with nonsense, that would indeed be trolling. I haven't read all his posts, but in the ones I read I don't remember that he insulted anyone or behaved in a rude manner. If there are Surfer posts like that, please point me to them so I can adapt my opinion on him.

And I don't see either what about Surfer's question in this thread is disrespectful to Dennis. It wasn't Surfer who spoke of Zombies or ressurrected people. It wasn't sillier than "If Brian was 19 or 20 in 2014" and less silly than "If Dennis was reincarnated as a cat, what kind would he be?" The one thing that is very silly is Surfer's question to Dennis "Why would you drown bro" - not my kind of humor either.

So Surfer has admitted to be a troll? He'd be the first troll to do so. Do you think he meant it? I can't tell as I didn't read that post, I don't look at all Surfer threads, because many of them aren't really interesting. But if he is a troll, don't you think the best thing was to just ignore him? Trolls want attention, so don't give him any.

And if he really is just a bit naive, plus probably not a native English speaker, he should not be put down just for that. If that is the case, I do feel pity for him.



A very good advice for everybody who is put off by Surfer's postings.

Not really.  A troll with good English would have said:  "I'm neither a Hypocrite NOR a Troll.  Just sayin.'

There at least needs to be some sort of standard for actual discussion and not inane topics. I'm here to learn stuff.

That one slipped me, English isn't my first language either. I was referring to this comment here: