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Title: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 04, 2014, 03:18:37 PM
While Brian often recycled his own ideas over and over again, I find it more interesting when BB members recycle other members' ideas/riffs.

This seems particularly notable with Brian/Dennis borrowing/recycling riffs + lyrics from each other, but there seem to be some of these even with other BB members too, and often filtering into each others' solo material.

Some that come to mind:

- Dennis borrowing Brian's "Child is Father of the Man" riff in "Little Bird" + "Time"

- Brian borrowing Dennis' "Dreamer" lyrical idea "They couldn't get to heaven in their car" for his own "Let's Go to Heaven in My Car"

- Apparently Brian borrowed some musical riff/melody of Dennis' for a song on BB88 (someone clue me in on this? I can't recall what songs were involved)

- Carl borrowing Brian's wordless vocal melody from "You Still Believe in Me" at the end of "Brian's Back" (although since Brian apparently had some involvement in a version of "Brian's Back", maybe it was actually Brian's idea to do this?)

Anybody have more?


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: punkinhead on January 04, 2014, 03:28:14 PM
While Brian often recycled his own ideas over and over again, I find it more interesting when BB members recycle other members' ideas/riffs.

This seems particularly notable with Brian/Dennis borrowing/recycling riffs + lyrics from each other, but there seem to be some of these even with other BB members too, and often filtering into each others' solo material.

Some that come to mind:

- Dennis borrowing Brian's "Child is Father of the Man" riff in "Little Bird" + "Time"

- Brian borrowing Dennis' "Dreamer" lyrical idea "They couldn't get to heaven in their car" for his own "Let's Go to Heaven in My Car"

- Apparently Brian borrowed some musical riff/melody of Dennis' for a song on BB88 (someone clue me in on this? I can't recall what songs were involved)

- Carl borrowing Brian's wordless vocal melody from "You Still Believe in Me" at the end of "Brian's Back" (although since Brian apparently had some involvement in a version of "Brian's Back", maybe it was actually Brian's idea to do this?)

Anybody have more?
I know Brian used the River Song's "Rollin roll on Rollin River" on Rio Grande.

Never heard the Dreamer part in Let's Go to Heaven...but I do hear Dennis' San Miguel on Brian's Sweet Insanity favorite Someone To Love.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on January 04, 2014, 03:30:43 PM
Mike borrowing Fun Fun Fun, Surfin' USA, and I Get Around for every Beach Boys song he's written post-1970?


(I jest.)  ;D


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on January 04, 2014, 03:38:15 PM
- Apparently Brian borrowed some musical riff/melody of Dennis' for a song on BB88 (someone clue me in on this? I can't recall what songs were involved)



I don't know if you are referring to this, but "Melt Away" reminds me an awful lot of a combination of "Moonshine" and the tag to "Farewell My Friend".


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: joshferrell on January 04, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
1.Al borrowing the riff from Sail Plane song for loop de loop and brian re borrowing it for daddy's little girl
2. Dennis doing a song called "Moonshine" and carl producing a song by ricci  martin with the same title..
3.all I wanna do, all I want to do..
4. Tricia borrowed from Sherry
5. bluebirds over the mountains, Daybreak over the ocean


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Moon Dawg on January 04, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
  Mike and Al borrowed Brian's "Hawaii" for "Kona Coast."


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on January 04, 2014, 06:43:39 PM
Al's California versus Brian's California Girls.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: punkinhead on January 04, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Some believe Please Let Me Wonder is borrowed on Al's San Simion.
Also, some have said Brian borrowed Belles of Paris/Christmas for On Christmas Day.

Also, take your pick of borrowed riffs and melodies on Al's PT Cruiser.

Also also, to these ears, Brian's version of I've Got Plenty of Nuttin' sounds somewhat like Dennis' Smile era song: I Don't Know.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2014, 09:10:12 PM
Has anyone noticed that the musical intro on the new version of It's OK from MIC is pretty much the same riff that's on Some Of Your Love?


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: adamghost on January 04, 2014, 09:19:33 PM
Has anyone noticed that the musical intro on the new version of It's OK from MIC is pretty much the same riff that's on Some Of Your Love?

....and Summer Of Love
....and Wontcha Come Out Tonight
....and Child of Winter
....and Mike Come Back to L.A. from the OUR TEAM video.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: punkinhead on January 04, 2014, 09:46:08 PM
Has anyone noticed that the musical intro on the new version of It's OK from MIC is pretty much the same riff that's on Some Of Your Love?

....and Summer Of Love
....and Wontcha Come Out Tonight
....and Child of Winter
....and Mike Come Back to L.A. from the OUR TEAM video.
One of my favorite riffs!
Didn't know it was on Woncha Coms Out Tonight.
I also Kinda hear it on Almost Summer.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 05, 2014, 05:06:09 AM
"Grateful Are We For Little Children" (Dennis) into "Saturday Morning In The City" (Brian).


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Howie Edelson on January 05, 2014, 06:11:46 AM
"Looking Down The Coast" and "Walkin' The Line."


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: punkinhead on January 05, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
"Looking Down The Coast" and "Walkin' The Line."
Really? I don't think I knew that.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Howie Edelson on January 05, 2014, 11:57:15 AM
LOOKING DOWN THE COAST: "The California gray whales playing there - haven't got a care"

WALKIN' THE LINE: "If I don't get my way this time I'll die - and that's no lie"


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: punkinhead on January 05, 2014, 12:53:48 PM
LOOKING DOWN THE COAST: "The California gray whales playing there - haven't got a care"

WALKIN' THE LINE: "If I don't get my way this time I'll die - and that's no lie"
Ah, good call, and great ears.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Jon Stebbins on January 05, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
LOOKING DOWN THE COAST: "The California gray whales playing there - haven't got a care"

WALKIN' THE LINE: "If I don't get my way this time I'll die - and that's no lie"
Ah, good call, and great ears.
Howie's ears are not only good, but they are nicely shaped and fairly clean.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: Rotat on January 05, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
While Brian often recycled his own ideas over and over again, I find it more interesting when BB members recycle other members' ideas/riffs.


- Dennis borrowing Brian's "Child is Father of the Man" riff in "Little Bird" + "Time"




Didn't Brian actually produce and arrange that Child Is Father Of The Man part into "Little Bird" for the Friends LP but decided to remain uncredited? I read that somewhere, maybe Desper.

Another funny thread idea would be to point out how many times the "Shortenin Bread" riff makes an appearance. I laugh when I listen to "Too Much Sugar" and when it turns into Shortenin Bread for a brief moment towards the end.


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 05, 2014, 02:38:07 PM
While Brian often recycled his own ideas over and over again, I find it more interesting when BB members recycle other members' ideas/riffs.


- Dennis borrowing Brian's "Child is Father of the Man" riff in "Little Bird" + "Time"




Didn't Brian actually produce and arrange that Child Is Father Of The Man part into "Little Bird" for the Friends LP but decided to remain uncredited? I read that somewhere, maybe Desper.

Another funny thread idea would be to point out how many times the "Shortenin Bread" riff makes an appearance. I laugh when I listen to "Too Much Sugar" and when it turns into Shortenin Bread for a brief moment towards the end.

Shortenin' Bread Suite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvOiwUMNW8


Title: Re: BB members borrowing riffs/lyrics from other BB members
Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 10, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
Has anyone noticed that the musical intro on the new version of It's OK from MIC is pretty much the same riff that's on Some Of Your Love?

....and Summer Of Love
....and Wontcha Come Out Tonight
....and Child of Winter
....and Mike Come Back to L.A. from the OUR TEAM video.

And I just realized: listen to the single version of Cottonfields from 2:15-2:25. There's that Child of Winter riff again (I guess its first ever BB appearance?)
PS Adam - loved the live montage of this riff at the Brennan's show!