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Title: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2013, 08:56:06 AM
There's a 500 acre brush fire on Pfeifer Rd. near Big Sur. Hope he's OK. Updates as I (or you) get them.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: The Shift on December 16, 2013, 09:04:52 AM
Not good. That's some stunning countryside as well, with some very special tree-life. Hope it's soon brought under control/burns out.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2013, 09:53:38 AM
Holy crap, hope Al's place is okay.

Maybe its time for the BBs to reunite and use the water chant from SMiLE to stop the fire.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Gabo on December 16, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
he'll meditate his way through it, don't worry


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SonoraDick on December 16, 2013, 11:17:57 AM
he'll meditate his way through it, don't worry

There's not much cause for humor when a potential disaster is being discussed... poor as the attempt may be.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 16, 2013, 11:28:47 AM
Mikie,  Is Highway 1 open?  Not hearing anything on TV here.  I g-earthed the area, looks pretty open.  Is it close to the tree line?  I'm not sure where Al's place is exactly.  What is the number on Pfeifer Road?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
Alan's place is way down a side road, almost on the beach.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
Yeah, Al's near Pfeifer Beach. The fire is in Pfeifer Ridge headed toward the ocean. Here's a recent update. They're saying 300-500 acres consumed with evacuations.

http://thehawksperch.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/big-sur-fire-evacuations/


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Tony S on December 16, 2013, 01:40:21 PM
Al's ranch is down near the end of Sycamore Canyon rd., just before the beach. The fire is on Pfeiffer Ridge, as I understand it, well north of Al's house. Hope he's ok, though, and all of the Big Sur residents....such a shame, the most beautiful place ever.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Don Malcolm on December 16, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
Thanks for the updates, folks. I'm sure we'll all keep our fingers crossed that the fire will be contained ASAP with the minimum possible amount of damage to nature, people and property. Thoughts and prayers to Al, his family, and to all who are potentially in harm's way.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: leggo of my ego on December 16, 2013, 03:56:54 PM
Awful.

Talk about a Carbon Bigfootprint too.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: KittyKat on December 16, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
Al's ranch is down near the end of Sycamore Canyon rd., just before the beach. The fire is on Pfeiffer Ridge, as I understand it, well north of Al's house. Hope he's ok, though, and all of the Big Sur residents....such a shame, the most beautiful place ever.

Stalkers of Al Jardine, that isn't where he lives. He lives on the moon. Go to the moon to find your hero Al Jardine.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
Now there's a smart, productive, informative contribution to the thread.  ::)


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: leggo of my ego on December 16, 2013, 04:29:16 PM
Al's ranch is down near the end of Sycamore Canyon rd., just before the beach. The fire is on Pfeiffer Ridge, as I understand it, well north of Al's house. Hope he's ok, though, and all of the Big Sur residents....such a shame, the most beautiful place ever.

Stalkers of Al Jardine, that isn't where he lives. He lives on the moon. Go to the moon to find your hero Al Jardine.

Don't worry. nobody gonna mess with Alan. I heard he pack a gun.  :hat


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 16, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
The evening news just did a story, showing it was pretty much contained, just a couple of spot fires.  They didn't say how it got started.  Two houses damaged.  If Al's place was threatened, they probably would have mentioned it.  Sycamore Canyon is mostly low growth, that's what they showed damaged.  The house they did show was not burned, was well cleared near it, but the damage was too close for comfort.  Glad it didn't reach the tree line.
Watching Mt. Tam burn back in the late 90's was a big factor in my decision to leave California.  The droughts just will not end, and all the fires are the result.  My thoughts and prayers to all who now have to live with the aftermath.  
Just the opposite where I now live, spent the day shoveling snow.  And more to come by morning.
 


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 16, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
I see the clown people came out while I was writing my post. 


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
The evening news just did a story, showing it was pretty much contained, just a couple of spot fires.  They didn't say how it got started.  Two houses damaged.  If Al's place was threatened, they probably would have mentioned it.  Sycamore Canyon is mostly low growth, that's what they showed damaged.  The house they did show was not burned, was well cleared near it, but the damage was too close for comfort.  Glad it didn't reach the tree line.
Watching Mt. Tam burn back in the late 90's was a big factor in my decision to leave California.  The droughts just will not end, and all the fires are the result.  My thoughts and prayers to all who now have to live with the aftermath.  
Just the opposite where I now live, spent the day shoveling snow.  And more to come by morning.
 

I show 15 houses gone, including the fire chief's, who originally alerted residents to the fire.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
The evening news just did a story, showing it was pretty much contained, just a couple of spot fires.  They didn't say how it got started.  Two houses damaged.  If Al's place was threatened, they probably would have mentioned it.  Sycamore Canyon is mostly low growth, that's what they showed damaged.  The house they did show was not burned, was well cleared near it, but the damage was too close for comfort.  Glad it didn't reach the tree line.
Watching Mt. Tam burn back in the late 90's was a big factor in my decision to leave California.  The droughts just will not end, and all the fires are the result.  My thoughts and prayers to all who now have to live with the aftermath.  
Just the opposite where I now live, spent the day shoveling snow.  And more to come by morning.
 
California Dreaming? ;D


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 16, 2013, 05:21:55 PM
The evening news just did a story, showing it was pretty much contained, just a couple of spot fires.  They didn't say how it got started.  Two houses damaged.  If Al's place was threatened, they probably would have mentioned it.  Sycamore Canyon is mostly low growth, that's what they showed damaged.  The house they did show was not burned, was well cleared near it, but the damage was too close for comfort.  Glad it didn't reach the tree line.
Watching Mt. Tam burn back in the late 90's was a big factor in my decision to leave California.  The droughts just will not end, and all the fires are the result.  My thoughts and prayers to all who now have to live with the aftermath.  
Just the opposite where I now live, spent the day shoveling snow.  And more to come by morning.
 

I show 15 houses gone, including the fire chief's, who originally alerted residents to the fire.

Yeah, that 2 house report is defintely wrong. Here's an earlier report that mentions Al's horses:
http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/article_aa7cd5ee-6669-11e3-a493-0019bb30f31a.html

and there's video here from about 4PM PST:  http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/aerial-video-big-sur-fire-destroys-15-homes/-/5738820/23515542/-/6a9771/-/index.html

Hope Al and his house will be OK, but it sounds like he's right in the way of the fire.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2013, 05:23:47 PM
Bgas, that doesn't sound good.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Moon Dawg on December 16, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
 Was Al playing "Mrs. O Leary's Cow" on his hi-fi set?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
he'll meditate his way through it, don't worry

There's not much cause for humor when a potential disaster is being discussed... poor as the attempt may be.

I'm pretty sure if something bad had happened to Al, we'd know it by now.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 16, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
Okay, that's the national media for ya.  Mikie, I know you are a lot closer, so thanks for the update.  I read your earlier link saying 15 structures, but I believe you if you say that's houses.  I checked several times during the day.  I do hope the report I saw was right about it being over.
bgas, thanks for your link too.  I'll check in more tomorrow.  There is a good football game just getting started.
You posters making jokes...this ain't funny. Be wise.  There are plenty of other threads to go joke around in here.  I'm sure Al is taking this very seriously.  Horses and all animals freak out in fires.  Somebody probably lost a pet today.
SMiLE Brian,  I don't miss California.  If anything, Golden Gate Park,  culture and ethnic food.  I was a gardener for many years, and those droughts wreaked my business.  Hard to grow flowers and lawns when they make laws that prevent you from turning on the water.  Or if you are referring to the snow, I love it.  I don't mind digging the car out.  There is a special beauty to Christmas lights peaking out from under snow blankets.
Let's all feel blessed that we are safe and warm in our houses tonight, and not what the Big Sur area is dealing with.  They will be hoping for rain to wash away the ash.  It will be new again come spring.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: sockittome on December 16, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
Was Al playing "Mrs. O Leary's Cow" on his hi-fi set?

There it is.  This thread wouldn't have been complete without that.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: KittyKat on December 16, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
Gee, sorry if I offended certain posters with my "lame attempt at humor," but I'm quite serious that it's not a good idea to let people know where a member of a very famous band happens to live. There have been stories about stalkers who follow the most minor of celebrities and show up at their houses.  I'm not sure Al and Mrs. Jardine really want that info posted on the internet.  Since that area has few homes, enough info was posted to locate Al's place, which hopefully will not be affected, even if sadly his neighbors haven't been as lucky.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Niko on December 16, 2013, 08:29:18 PM
Wasn't that info put up when he invited everyone over last summer?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: c-man on December 17, 2013, 03:32:55 AM
Sorry to hear about this - the wife and I spent our honeymoon at Big Sur's wonderful Post Ranch Inn three years ago September (unfortunately, a week before Al's concert at the local library). Hope the fires are indeed contained for good, and hope the damage was minimal.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: c-man on December 17, 2013, 03:46:12 AM
UPDATE: Matt Jardine posted this update on Facebook six hours ago:

Thinking of all of our Big Sur neighbors on pfeiffer ridge who are evacuating & have lost their homes from the wildfires. Very very sad news & my thoughts & prayers are with them. My Dad's ranch, where I grew up, is not out of the woods yet. The fire is very close & is burning on the ridges above his property. Fire crews are working very hard to stop the fire but cannot contain it. Put some good thoughts out there for my pops & other big sur residents please.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: The Shift on December 17, 2013, 04:02:52 AM
Sorry to hear about this - the wife and I spent our honeymoon at Big Sur's wonderful Post Inn Ranch three years ago September (unfortunately, a week before Al's concert at the local library). Hope the fires are indeed contained for good, and hope the damage was minimal.

I enjoyed Big Sur and the Highway 1 route several years ago when on a road trip with a good CA friend – we stayed a night at Ragged Point, and hiked a short way into the hills to see the coastal redwoods. Also stopped by a number of places referenced in BBs song lyrics (she's a very understanding friend!).

It's a breathtakingly beautiful area, and what we experienced of it was a nice community too. I hope to return someday with the family and revisit some of those places (I have a very understanding family!).

Hope the fire's soon out and that there's minimal damage or harm done.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2013, 04:03:41 AM
sh*t.  


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 17, 2013, 07:49:07 AM
I hope they can stop the fire before its too late.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 17, 2013, 08:15:47 AM
"My mom went back down to try and help get livestock out of the canyon," Davey writes. "I think she has a friend with a horse trailer coming to rescue the Jardine's two horses," she adds, referring to horses owned by Beach Boy legend and Big Sur resident Al Jardine.

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/article_aa7cd5ee-6669-11e3-a493-0019bb30f31a.html


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 17, 2013, 09:00:24 AM
"My mom went back down to try and help get livestock out of the canyon," Davey writes. "I think she has a friend with a horse trailer coming to rescue the Jardine's two horses," she adds, referring to horses owned by Beach Boy legend and Big Sur resident Al Jardine.

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/blogs/news_blog/article_aa7cd5ee-6669-11e3-a493-0019bb30f31a.html

Yeah, I posted that YESTERDAY, Mikie!


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Mikie on December 17, 2013, 09:07:53 AM
Oh. Sorry. Don't wanna be redundant here.

As we speak, the fire is only 5% contained. 200 more homes are still being threatened. It's now about a mile away from the Ventana Inn.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 17, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
Oh. Sorry. Don't wanna be redundant here.

As we speak, the fire is only 5% contained. 200 more homes are still being threatened. It's now about a mile away from the Ventana Inn.

Man, that's a drag. I can't find any new info today. Any word specifically on Al's house? 


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: leggo of my ego on December 17, 2013, 09:40:03 AM
UPDATE: Matt Jardine posted this update on Facebook six hours ago:

Thinking of all of our Big Sur neighbors on pfeiffer ridge who are evacuating & have lost their homes from the wildfires. Very very sad news & my thoughts & prayers are with them. My Dad's ranch, where I grew up, is not out of the woods yet. The fire is very close & is burning on the ridges above his property. Fire crews are working very hard to stop the fire but cannot contain it. Put some good thoughts out there for my pops & other big sur residents please.


Ooh. Not good. Pray for rain.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 17, 2013, 10:19:13 AM
Oh. Sorry. Don't wanna be redundant here.

As we speak, the fire is only 5% contained. 200 more homes are still being threatened. It's now about a mile away from the Ventana Inn.

Man, that's a drag. I can't find any new info today. Any word specifically on Al's house? 
The reports I'm finding don't give news on Al's place, but the news isn't good for the area.  S.F. Chronicle @6:40 am pst, reporting that it's still only 5% contained.  More than 500 firefighters working on it, calling it a "Summer-type fire in December."  A front is coming through, expecting more wind and wind shifts.  A quick moving fire.
Recent info can be found by searching: Pfeiffer Ridge Big Sur - some in the last hour.  By the sound of it, getting more serious, not less. 
No cause yet, as the smoke is too thick, except:  "In the driest year on record !  Less than a half-inch of rain since July (normal for fall is several inches).  Over 100 homes without power, PG&E reports.  And now Highway 1 is hard to navigate, but still open... unless the fire crosses to the East side.  They are saying maybe a couple of days to contain.
SPCA is on-hand to help, thank goodness.  This sounds just terrible.  You know the animals in the wild are going left and right.
Thanks for your up-dates Mikie.  I hope I didn't double post anything - redundant isn't that important right now.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 17, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Oh, and I can't find the Matt Jardine info on facebook.  Do you have to be on his 'Friends" list to get it?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: donald on December 17, 2013, 01:42:38 PM
Been there many times.  There are a lot of trees in the canyon along the main road to pfieiffer beach  but coming up out of the canyon and along the ridges there is that Big Sur/California coast grass and brush, brown even in normal rainfall.  This is the stuff that burned all the way along the coast road and into the forests just a short few years back.  The folks out there have a way of coming together in times like thisi.   My thoughts go out to the residents.

As for the location of Al's house, as many times as I have been to pfieffer beach I am still not sure exactly where he lives.  And I've looked.   ;)   Folks will have to have more info than the name of a road or a landmark. So, odds are the hint left on this thread will be of little value and Al's provacy will be intact.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2013, 11:23:24 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/big-sur-fire-growth-small-percent-containment-21249741


Latest is 20% contained so looking better than yesterday. Fingers crossed.

An area I hope to visit someday.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Eric Aniversario on December 18, 2013, 03:38:29 AM
Oh, and I can't find the Matt Jardine info on facebook.  Do you have to be on his 'Friends" list to get it?
Yes


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: c-man on December 18, 2013, 04:01:15 AM
I read that Big Sur's fire chief lost her home...she was out leading the firefighting effort, only to have her home comsumed in the meantime.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2013, 08:34:35 AM
Been there many times.  There are a lot of trees in the canyon along the main road to pfieiffer beach  but coming up out of the canyon and along the ridges there is that Big Sur/California coast grass and brush, brown even in normal rainfall.  This is the stuff that burned all the way along the coast road and into the forests just a short few years back.  The folks out there have a way of coming together in times like thisi.   My thoughts go out to the residents.

As for the location of Al's house, as many times as I have been to pfieffer beach I am still not sure exactly where he lives.  And I've looked.   ;)   Folks will have to have more info than the name of a road or a landmark. So, odds are the hint left on this thread will be of little value and Al's provacy will be intact.

The Red Barn Studio site is AWOL, has been for a while: I suspect because given the info in the photos and a judicious use of Google Maps satellite view, it didn't take too long to work out where he lived.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2013, 02:45:22 PM
From Al's facebook page:

Thank you all for the positive messages and prayers. We are okay for now. Everyone is evacuated but us and a few other souls. We will keep you updated and thanks again for keeping us in your thoughts, it is very much appreciated.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Dutchie on December 18, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
http://www.silentway.com/venue/red-barn-studios


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 18, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
http://www.silentway.com/venue/red-barn-studios

I especially like the map included at this site, which places Red Barn Studios in the middle of a green canyon on the east side of Hwy 1.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Emdeeh on December 19, 2013, 06:20:32 AM
News stories are now reporting 74-75% containment.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Dutchie on December 19, 2013, 08:24:00 AM
That is good news !


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SonoraDick on December 19, 2013, 01:02:03 PM
Another update from Al.


All of us are still here at the ranch. These pictures were taken as the fire came down off Pfeiffer Ridge. We've heard that three quarters of the fire are now fully contained and hoping it will be fully contained by tonight. We thank the brave firefighters, especially the Big Sur Volunteer Fire Brigade, who have been working night and day to battle this fire and also the Red Cross for providing shelter for some of our neighbors who lost their homes and/or had to evacuate. And thanks again to everyone for your positive messages, we feel blessed to know we have so many friends who care.


https://www.facebook.com/alanjardine



Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Emdeeh on December 20, 2013, 08:02:01 AM
News stories are now saying 88% contained.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on December 20, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
COMMENT:   Al's property contains not only his lovely home, but the Red Barn Studio, the animal barn, five guest cabins, a garage, chicken coop, storage buildings and a lake.  A few years ago Alan had the forsight to invest in many large barrels of an anti-burn foam. These are bought with the good graces and blessings of the Big Sur fire department. Those residents who have this supply of foam on their property, by arrangement with the fire dept., can expect their buildings to be covered with the foam by the fire department, if the fire is so intense it could ignite by flash-flame. If you don't have foam on your property, the fire department uses water mostly to control the flames. I know he had enough foam for the house, and expect that by now he has foam also for the studio (his most valuable building).  The foam is removed by hose & water.

Considering how fast things grow in BigSur, the loss of green vegetation will be replaced. Most of the extremely large trees just burn a little and come back. It takes a year or two, but the area will return to its beautiful self fairly quickly.

As far as finding Al's house from these postings, good luck! It is easy to get lost trying to find the place, and if you don't know to make turns, those one-lane roads will take you to a dead-end or a gate.

Of course, no one wants to see any damage to BigSur or Al's home, but he is very on-top of all the preventive measures for the area in which he lives. These fires are not uncommon this time of year and are something with which everyone lives and copes who live in BigSur. I have been there when you could see flames over the hill. It's scary for certain!  But they all seem to be (somewhat) use to it and have proceedures in place to protect the animals and buildings.
   ~swd


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 20, 2013, 03:19:54 PM
As far as finding Al's house from these postings, good luck! It is easy to get lost trying to find the place, and if you don't know to make turns, those one-lane roads will take you to a dead-end or a gate.

  ~swd

Can you walk us thru the twists and turns to get  there?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: DonnyL on December 20, 2013, 04:53:50 PM
As far as finding Al's house from these postings, good luck! It is easy to get lost trying to find the place, and if you don't know to make turns, those one-lane roads will take you to a dead-end or a gate.

  ~swd

Can you walk us thru the twists and turns to get  there?

Drive for a couple miles
You'll see a sign and turn left
For a couple blocks
Next is Al's, you'll turn left on a little road
It's a bumpy one

You'll see a white fence
Move the gate and drive through on the left side
Come right in
And you'll find Al in his house somewhere
Keeping busy while he waits


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 20, 2013, 08:44:05 PM
As far as finding Al's house from these postings, good luck! It is easy to get lost trying to find the place, and if you don't know to make turns, those one-lane roads will take you to a dead-end or a gate.

  ~swd

Can you walk us thru the twists and turns to get  there?

Drive for a couple miles
You'll see a sign and turn left
For a couple blocks
Next is Al's, you'll turn left on a little road
It's a bumpy one

You'll see a white fence
Move the gate and drive through on the left side
Come right in
And you'll find Al in his house somewhere
Keeping busy while he waits

That seems really familiar; is that really the way?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: monicker on December 20, 2013, 09:19:55 PM
I thought humor wasn't allowed in this thread. Is it okay to make jokes now that the fire is almost entirely out? Is there a certain percentage of containment that makes it okay for jokes? Like, maybe under 50% means it's not okay to joke around, but if it's over 50%, it's fine? How does this work?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: KittyKat on December 21, 2013, 12:48:17 AM
Glad all is well at Al's abode. Thanks for the directions to Al's house, where it sounds like he's busy doing nothing. Though out in the barnyard, the chickens are doing their number.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Emdeeh on December 21, 2013, 09:51:01 AM
News reports now say that the fire is 100% contained. The Jardines are all OK, but a good friend of Al's lost his home.

The Monterey Herald has a photo slide show, with one shot of Al in it. You'll have to scroll through a lot of pics, but he's there.

http://photos.montereyherald.com/2013/12/16/photos-firefighters-battle-wildland-fire-in-big-surs-pfeiffer-ridge-area-dec-16-2013


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Dutchie on December 21, 2013, 11:14:02 AM
i saw him in picture 44 on the back and picture 50 in front.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Emdeeh on December 21, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
I noticed those too, but you have to know who you're looking for to spot him in the crowd.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: bgas on December 21, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
I noticed those too, but you have to know who you're looking for to spot him in the crowd.

Kinda like picking a hobbit in the crowd?


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 22, 2013, 06:01:59 AM
COMMENT:   Al's property contains not only his lovely home, but the Red Barn Studio, the animal barn, five guest cabins, a garage, chicken coop, storage buildings and a lake.  A few years ago Alan had the forsight to invest in many large barrels of an anti-burn foam. These are bought with the good graces and blessings of the Big Sur fire department. Those residents who have this supply of foam on their property, by arrangement with the fire dept., can expect their buildings to be covered with the foam by the fire department, if the fire is so intense it could ignite by flash-flame. If you don't have foam on your property, the fire department uses water mostly to control the flames. I know he had enough foam for the house, and expect that by now he has foam also for the studio (his most valuable building).  The foam is removed by hose & water.

Considering how fast things grow in BigSur, the loss of green vegetation will be replaced. Most of the extremely large trees just burn a little and come back. It takes a year or two, but the area will return to its beautiful self fairly quickly.

Of course, no one wants to see any damage to BigSur or Al's home, but he is very on-top of all the preventive measures for the area in which he lives. These fires are not uncommon this time of year and are something with which everyone lives and copes who live in BigSur. I have been there when you could see flames over the hill. It's scary for certain!  But they all seem to be (somewhat) use to it and have procedures in place to protect the animals and buildings. 
Great post, Mr. Desper! I knew Al has a big house & studio, but I could never imagine just how rich his territory is! Big Sur being quickly returned to its scenic form is good news too. Thanks for chiming in!

I thought humor wasn't allowed in this thread. Is it okay to make jokes now that the fire is almost entirely out?
You rightly thought, monicker. Humor isn't allowed in all the dangerous threads. Smile Brian shouldn't have started this clownade some pages ago. As you may know, everyone has their own ethics on do's & don't's, but here we all must be a little sympathetic towards victims.
 
2bgas: I hate picturing Al's reaction if he (or Matt or Adam) reads the "hobbit" stuff, that was really childish of you. Learn finding respect for members of the band you are collector of. It's easy as this.

In any way, I'm happy that fire's gone & all the neighbors are alive.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: feelsflow on December 22, 2013, 02:47:08 PM
Yes RangeRoverA1,  Big Sur is so beautiful, and Pfeiffer Beach is one of the best along there.  Been there many times, but never even looked for Al's ranch.  I'm sure it's very well guarded.  Al would be friendly if you did though.  He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would come running at you with a pitchfork.  When I lived in Pacific Grove (near there) one summer, I put together a small tent structure in the very thick low growth trees.  It is so hard to walk through, you could leave personal possessions and not worry about someone finding your stuff.  There are a lot of people living out in the wilds of Big Sur.  Real Mountain Men, tough.  It's much too big to be policed.
As for the comedy...this is not over for folks who live there.  Their Christmas has been damaged.  They know how to bond together to get through.  One of the reports I read talked about the "eerie silence" - that's cause, even with no major loss of personal livestock, the wild animals didn't fair as well.  Mountain men know when to run, wild animals run scared and die in the confusion.   
I was surprised more than offended by the jokes when I posted the "clown people" comment the other day.  I'm not here to tell you what to do.


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 22, 2013, 03:22:59 PM
Say goodnight to the bad guy- Tony Montana


Title: Re: Big Fire Near Al's House
Post by: Custom Machine on December 22, 2013, 08:01:21 PM
Yes RangeRoverA1,  Big Sur is so beautiful, and Pfeiffer Beach is one of the best along there.  Been there many times, but never even looked for Al's ranch.  I'm sure it's very well guarded.  Al would be friendly if you did though.  He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would come running at you with a pitchfork.  ...

Haven't been to Pfeiffer Beach in many years, but around 30 years ago on the road down to the beach on the right hand side there was actually a sign "Jardine Arabians" over the entrance to the road to Al's ranch.  Al's youngest sons, Robbie and Drew, told me it was finally taken down because from time to time it attracted curious souls who followed the road to the ranch.