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Ian and I (he supplies the info, I put it up and once in a blue moon correct or add) are pretty much done with adding the shows post-2000 in the same format as the rest of the section. Just double checking now, so it hopefully will go live before the end of the month. As ever, additions, corrections, plaudits and checks for substantial sums are not merely welcomed but encouraged.

Oh, and next time I have a bright idea like that, someone talk me out of it please.  :old

:rock

You mean ideas like counting the number of shows performed by every individual member of the band? Looking forward to that!   ;D

Individual member totals 1961-1998 (shows billed as Beach Boys only - no solo, no California/Endless Summer Beach Band or the like). The accuracy is probably about +/-2:

Brian    -   901 (1961- April 1965, July 1976-September 1996)
Carl      - 3583 (to August 1997)
Dennis - 1963 (to September 1983)
Mike     - 3645
Alan     - 3456 (to May 1998)
David  -    271 (March 1962-October 1963, September 1997-1998)
Glen   -       28 (December 1964-April 1965)
Bruce   - 2745 (April 1965-April 1972, September 1978-1998)
Blondie  - 184 (April 1972-December 1973)
Ricky      - 259 (April 1972-summer 1974)

Very illuminating. Thought Glen would have played many more. And look how many more Ricky played than Blondie.

Revised figures 1961-1998 including solo shows (note, solo shows date only from 1975 and don't include David's gigs with The Moon et al)

Brian - 947 (909 BB/38 solo)
Carl - 3643 (3577/66)
Dennis - 1963 (1963/-)
Mike - 3703 (3639/64)
Alan - 3451 (3448/3)
David - 298 (271/27)
Glen - 29 (28/1)
Bruce - 2752 (2745/7)
Ricky - 259 (259/-)
Blondie - 184 (184/-)

After 1998, it gets a bit messier.  :-D

   :tm  In Celebration, the SS site went dark for the rest of the day. ;D  Really, thanks for all the hard work you (with and without the help of others) put into The Bellagio site.  It's essential.

Finally, for now - shows played as The Beach Boys 1961-2013:

Brian - 984
Carl - 3577
Dennis - 1963
Mike - 5230
Alan - 3524
David - 415
Bruce - 4321
Glen - 28
Blondie - 184
Ricky - 259

Solo shows 1975-2013:

Brian - 496
Carl - 66
Dennis - 0
Mike - 97
Alan - 158
Bruce - 7

Totals 1961-2013:

Brian - 1480
Carl - 3643
Dennis - 1963
Mike - 5417
Alan - 3682
David - 415
Bruce - 4328
Glen - 29
Blondie - 184
Ricky - 259

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Fantastic list. Fore pure accuracy's sake you might want to put an asterisk next to David, Glen and Blondie's totals as they all have played many more than the zero solo shows they are credited for.

One teeny item I can add, which may already have been corrected for the new database, I noticed on this page:  http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/britour.html (http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/britour.html), it lists a Brian gig from 9/19/2000 in Saratoga that never took place. Two shows were originally scheduled, one for 9/19 at the Villa Montalvo Garden Theatre in Saratoga, CA, and one for 9/20 at The Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA (the page seems to invert the two scheduled venues). The 9/19 show was canceled well before the show took place (I think tickets had been sold). The 9/20/2000 show was at The Mountain Winery, and went on as scheduled. I believe both shows were scheduled as non-orchestra shows.

Nice work - now on to Stage 2, how many shows have all the Beach Boys sidemen played ?  ;D

Kowalski and Carter would probably top the list , but how many shows have Figueroa, Bardowell, Foskett, Munoz, Altbach, Totten, Kirsch, Bonhomme, Cowsill, Meros, Baker, etc. played ?

Indeed... just throwing this out there to garner exactly that kind of feedback. Think I need to limit it to the core members, less David. I feel a convoluted footnote coming on...

Please don't limit it, keep sleuthing!

Actually, I'm partway there already: I've got a rough database of sidemen by year, not by show, 1967-date. I think to do it by show with any claim to accuracy would be more than somewhat misleading.

Incredible work, sir.

I think the one that stood out for me is that Dennis has been dead for almost 30 years and he's still nearly 500 shows ahead of Brian.

Well, Denny's attendance 1961-1979 was pretty solid. Thereafter... not as much.

Thanks for all your good work, gentlemen!

Well done!
Really looking forward to the supporting musicians list, since I have BB-OCD.

A question for the experts... I don't see any information for sessions (early 1998?) for the song Acapulco Girls, with Sol De Mexico.  For that matter, I don't hear any actual Beach Boys on the recording, despite the credit.  I do hear Adrian Baker and Paul Fauerso, though supposedly Bruce and David Marks are on it.  Is there any information on this session?  It was actually a hit, I believe.

Also... supposedly, Mike, Bruce, David and Glen Campbell recorded a new 'Beach Boys" version of Jimmy Buffet's Coconut Telegraph the same year.  Was there any truth to that one?

What Mike Love "solo" performances are you including?  He never did any "Mike Love" shows, did He?  Are you including all the Celebration and Endless Summer Band gigs as solo?

Very fair question, and it's a bit of a Queen of Hearts moment. In this respect, "solo" means "non-Beach Boys". Carl and Brian have, of course, done solo shows, but in the case of the others, that means for Mike I'm counting Waves, Celebration, Mike & Dean, Endless Summer Beach Band, California Beach Band and... er... one other I forget. Alan includes the many variations of the Family & Friends concept and his appearances with the Suirf City All Stars. Like I said, expect a convoluted footnote.  ;D

Mike did at least one solo show under his own name. It was at Lake Lanier Islands resort, near Buford, GA, in 1981. Jeff Foskett and Randell Kirsch were in the supporting band.

Wow, this is great! Being both a numbers person and a fan of the history of the live band, i find these stats incredible and fascinating!!

How many shows total, group and solo?

And do these totals include private gigs?

I think that's on the timeline, ( in green lettering, just as the 2nd half 1981 Mike shows are marked) : 
 May 23 - Lake Lanier Island Presentation Point Amphitheater, Atlanta GA (ESBB)

That was fast, Andrew! I'm very impressed! :bow

Definitely not as much after 1983.

What about Stamos?
All kidding aside, thanks for posting these numbers. I often wondered how many shows each of them (and collectively) they have done.

Bruce has done 7 solo gigs ?

Again, my bad - those were seven shows with the California Beach Band. I need to phrase that much better.

Amazing.

Thank you for all that you do AGD..

Amen. That was a hell of an undertaking.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why we call him Andrew God Doe.  ;D

Well, gee, thanks, but it's just basic number crunching: without Ian's data, I couldn't do it.

BTW, I'm going back through the gigs doing a complete recount as I've noticed that some of my spreadsheets are obviously wrong - Ian's been feeding me updates that I've not included on those sheets despite revising the actual web page, so the basic totals will vary slightly from those previously stated, once I'm done. Right now, with about a decade and a half still to recount, the total of BB shows 1961-2013 stands at 5393 and not 5342, as I thought yesterday.

Good thing I like doing this, huh ?  :-D

Didn't Dennis open a few BB's shows with a short POB set? Do those count as "solo" performances?

OK, revised figures after a complete recount, and apologies for posting inaccurate data in the first place.

Total shows performed as The Beach Boys 1961-2013 - 5,510*

Individual members:

Brian - 984
Carl - 3,574
Dennis - 2,045
Mike - 5,488
Alan - 3,677
David - 468
Glen - 28
Bruce - 4,488
Ricky - 264
Blondie - 193

* - this is a minimum figure: there are still shows from the early 60s (notably 1962) that are certainly missing, and while this total includes a goodly number of corporate/private shows, it doesn't cover all of them. A semi-informed guess would be that the band have performed somewhere between 5,750 and 6,000 shows billed as The Beach Boys.

Regarding the shows that Mike has missed, I've counted 27:

1969 - 1
1970 - 8
1983 - 5
1984 - 1
1986 - 1
1990 - 11

Thanks for that. Proof if t'were needed that I should to do this kind of thing a little at a time.

But, umm... which show did he miss in 1984 ?

Andrew, this is simply fabulous work. Thanks so very, very much....

...Now for my insane request:

Can you break all that data down into year-by-year chunks?

(And not use those chunks to beat me about the head and shoulders for asking you to do it???)  :smokin

Already is, at least on the spreadsheets - total gigs, USA, Canada/Mexico, rest of the world (total and by country). Actually, most of it's month-by-month.  ;D

An audio recording of the Mile High Stadium show in Denver exists and Mike's voice doesn't sound like him on the songs he's supposed to sing. If he was at the show, maybe he had come down with a strep throat or something and his voice was a bit altered.
Actually, I'm not very sure if he was there or not. Any thoughts?

Mike is a beast.
Total workaholic.

Mike is a beast.
Total workaholic.
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I agree. He also needs all the money he can get for the series of alimony payments he has to make monthly

Maybe he was missing. However, at a fairly recent show, a sore-throated Mike lip-synched and mimed to (I think) Chris Farmer's lead vocals.

I agree. He also needs all the money he can get for the series of alimony payments he has to make monthly
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I did a quick google search to see if the BBs have broken some kind of record of most gigs played under a band name? I wasn't sure from the results, but possibly do they hold the record? The Lovester himself probably holds some kind of record too, or close to it.

WELL. .Lets  see now..   Barbara Ann came out end of 1965. I wonder how many times Mike has sung that song in concert. 1966-2013 !!

For them as is interested...

Most shows in a calendar year:

1988 - 165
1999 - 159
1987 - 158
1982 - 154
1964 - 149
1966 - 146
2005 - 136
1963 - 134
1981 - 132
1991 - 126

... and least shows (discounting 1961):

1977 - 48
1976 - 50
1998 - 50
1971 - 67
1996 - 73
1994 - 73
1997 - 77
1978 - 78
1979 - 79 (I know, spooky, huh ?)
2012 - 84

By decade:

60s -   948*
70s -   816
80s - 1260
90s -   957
00s - 1154
10s -   380**

  * - nine years
** - four years

By month (total)

Jan   - 154
Feb  -  253
Mar  -  229
Apr  -  414
May -  492
Jun  -   614
Jul   -   754
Aug - 1009
Sep -   508
Oct  -   378
Nov  -  415
Dec  -   302

I love these stats, please keep them coming!

How many shows in 1983..? Between Santa Barbara to San Diego they played 12-15 shows that year just in that neighbor hood.. Saturated the market because of James Watt.. Never saw that happen again before or since.. Also if you  know  the BB history you can tell why some years have low concert totals..

Shows in 1983 ? 125.

OK, the listings for 2001-2013 are now up, replacing the previous page for post-2000. As ever, correction & additions more than welcomed.

Got a question on the page and your total( and how to decipher the pages) : 
For the  >> Mike & Dean 'Spring Break' tour, sponsored by Budweiser << is it  only the 4 that immediately follow or all of the bright blue shows?  ( below)
15 - Jetty’s Beach, South Padre Island TX 
17 - Datyona Beach Bandshell, Daytona Beach FL 
23 - Ft. Lauderdale Beach, Ft. Lauderdale FL 
24 - Daytona Beach Bandshell, Daytona Beach FL   

31 - Wayside Park, Ft Walton Beach FL
April  21 - Rockefeller's, Houston TX [2 shows]
May-   
?? - Radio Shack Convention, Dallas TX
26 - Adventure Island Park, Tampa FL
30 - Tulane University, New Orleans LA

The amount of shows in the 00's is pretty depressing.

Correct - all the bright blue shows (but not those underlined - those are links to BB setlists. I know, confusing...)

Bear in mind they're not all M&B shows, but also Brian's & Alan's. When I get a few days, I'll be adding lists of month-by-month/year-by-year totals, overseas totals, country totals... whole buncha stuff like that.

Ah. That makes me feel better.