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In the song of Wendy is it inspired by a girl named Wendy Vines? The Girlfriend to Dennis Wilson

Nah, it's titled after Brian's second daughter.

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 :angry  :wall :rock

 ;D

Written years before she was born....

Shhhhhh.............    ( don't mess with AGD's history) 

Bgas, couldja speak up a little?  Can't hear ya.

 :old

HA !! Knew someone would do that if I didn't use smileys !! Just knew it...  ;D

Yeah, I almost put in a few smileys myself....  :-D  8)

It wasn't funny (or clever) - rather impolite and counterproductive.

Don't read my posts then. There, that's sorted.  ;D

Somehow I* doubt that your attitude as a board member agrees with this board's guidelines on respectful togetherness.




* I can't be the only one..

Why are you doing this? This place has been peaceful for a bit. Why are you stirring the pot over something the original poster has not?

So....

Who was the song about [if anyone]?

I'm guessing Brian (or Mike) needed a two-syllable girls name in short order.

You're right, I don't have a clue.  ;D

And of course there all the others that found it quite funny!
I did. And not at all a problem for " respectful togetherness".
Did you , perhaps, get up on the wrong side of bed today?

Was Wendy a popular name back then? There's also the Association song, "Windy." I can also see Brian picking it up from "Peter Pan."

2 Questions : 1} Was Carnie named after the unreleased song from early 70"s " Carnival " .. I just gotta know. !!  2} Who is this girlfriend Wendy of Dennis Wilson"s..? That name doesn't  ring a bell with me.. I might be goin senile at my age.. ! :old

I read somewhere that Carnie is short for Carnation. It was the flower power era and they wanted to name her after a flower (Rose was also considered).

For Song Facts pick the Beach Boys FAQ and it talks about it!  Go to page 168 in the book!

Sorry I was joking..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because he got bored about the peacefulness.






:wink

Then it's gotta be true!

Brian's song was first.

Okay, so what's your point in starting this thread if, well, you know all the needed info about "Wendy"? You should follow people's advice & post your questions here:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8214.4450.html - lots of interesting facts, it might even be that you'll find the answers to the questions you were just about to ask or trivia that is new to you. Enjoy!

Brian's song did come out before the Association's, but Peter Pan came out in 1953, and the story had been out before then of course.

Little know fact* about "Wendy" - its original title was "Deirdre".

[* - that I just made up...]

 :o 

 In THE HEART OF ROCK & SOUL: THE 1001 GREATEST SINGLES EVER MADE, Dave Marsh writes "Brian Wilson wrote this lovelorn number upon the birth of his daughter, Wendy, which strikes me as kind of kinky and probably won't really be grappled with in the movie about him and his shrink."

 It's fairly typical of Marsh to make such an error when the truth could have been easily verified. Think of all the people who have read Dave's book since 1989 who take his "Wendy" error as fact. Maybe it was corrected in subsequent editions.

  I can't recall hearing much about Wendy Vines.

 Now was it Wendy or Marcella that Bruce used to bathe with?

Dave Marsh is a shining example of someone who shouldn't be allowed to write about things of which he knows little, if anything. 

Wasn't Marsh the guy that wrote a book about The Who called " Before I get Old " I think so + what a mess.. And his Springsteen books are boring.. Someone needs to tell him.." Its Only Rock + Roal "'..  I love a good review + book to read but jeez man this guy  Marsh  is over the top with  anal izing   :spin everthing to death.  He would probably make a good politician..   ;D

He loves his own opinions, but can't be bothered with such pesky things as THE FACTS.

  I'm of two minds about Dave Marsh. He's an Elvis guy, which I appreciate. His 1001 SINGLES book did turn me on to some sounds that have been overlooked or disparaged - there was a lot of great rock & roll between say 1958-62, believe it or not. On the downside, Dave does worship Bruce Springsteen, which renders his Bruce books unreadable. Oh yes - his bias toward all things Detroit wears thin.

  His seeming antipathy toward PET SOUNDS and beyond era Beach Boys is short sighted and flat out wrong on some of the facts. One of his pieces in FORTUNATE SON seemed to take The Beach Boys to task simply for being white and middle class.


 I would however highly recommend THE 1001 BEST SINGLES book, just be prepared to disagree often!

One of the books he edited - "The Book of Rock Lists" (from 1980 or so), exposed me to more music than I ever could have on my own. It's pretty out of date now, but still a great perspective of the 50s, 60s, and 70s from when they were only the recent past.

 Ditto. Marsh has his moments.

Yeah, Dave Marsh is a prick. He called the Beach Boys the most overrated group in the history of rock music.
He then went on saying Brian Wilson wasn't a genius at all, only being good at using Phil Spector's talents, and went on trashing the underrated L.A. Light Album. You can read it here: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/l-a-light-album-19790531

A few years later, he wrote a review on Don't Worry Baby. While the review is positive, he still maintains that Brian Wilson is not a true Genius, and is still strongly dismissive of their later work (By later, he means their late-60's onwards work). I'm still certain he considers the BB's the most overrated rock band, but I guess that's his loss.

Omg anyone who puts Bruce Johnston's disco version of "Here Comes The Night" over Denny's "Baby Blue" is clearly a nutcase and shouldn't be a music critic  :angry

  Marsh gets a few things right about L.A., but takes far too much delight in trashing the group. This venom is evident in so much of Marsh's work: he really loves tearing the stuff he dislikes to shreds. He revels in it, which can be fun, but done so frequently reveals a spiteful petty mind.  In the second edition of THE ROLLING STONE RECORD GUIDE Marsh called The Doors "the most overrated group in rock history" so apparently Morrison and his gang earned Dave's ire.

 The review could be looked at in the context of the day. The band regained overwhelming popularity then released a series of underwhelming albums, compounding this with public feuding and the airing of dirty laundry. This made The Beach Boys fascinating in some quarters but guaranteed a backlash in others. Marsh was happy to sharpen the knives.