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Just when I was complementing his tact in avoiding discussion of the Wilson's drug habits in the last one, too.


http://somethingelsereviews.com/2013/11/03/i-had-never-known-before-mike-love-says-beach-boys-schism-stretches-back-decades/

So, let me get this straight... I knew that Brian used LSD around the time of California Girls, but Mike didn't find out until the reunion tour?

I must be a Beach Boys insider!!

So now Mike is doing interviews solely based on other band members/Brian's drug use? I guess Mike decided he was tired of reading all the Brian accolades around the Jeff Beck tour and, in typical "Mr. Positivity " style, is playing the drug card. What a tool!

Mike's either a moron who doesn't know about his cousin, or more likely he's a liar

I don't usually make a comment on these type of threads but... This is a pretty sad "interview" I sincerely hope he has been "misquoted".

This guy really needs to stop giving interviews.

He seems hung up on the drug years BW, not the somewhat recovered man of today.

Agreed! He's only making himself look worse with those interviews

Seriously, do we need another one of these threads?

You may have missed it but you can listen to the interview there which has the typical questions and answers about the music and touring. And it has the interviewers bringing up the drug issues.

Nothing to see here. :)

Perhaps what Mike meant is that he wasn't aware that Brian was on LSD when he created the music for "California Girls."  He may have been aware that Brian experimented with it, but not that it was specifically linked to a creation of a specific piece of music months before "Smile" even began. I've read different things that Brian has said over the years about creating "California Girls," and he's sometimes said pot was involved, but other times LSD. Specifically, he said the intro to the song was an LSD hallucination where the musical notes appeared to him in 3D, or something along those lines. Perhaps he'd never told Mike that personally until the last tour. It also could have been an attempt to show Mike that some good came out of his drug use. After all, Mike can't object to "California Girls."

....and this type of sleezeball comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL2L5uG2OLE

Well for a selfie-centered guy llike Mike that should be right up his alley.

Excuse me. I thought this was a Beach Boys discussion forum. When anyone does an interview or when I get news reports, I post 'em. Not my fault that Mike's been talking a lot lately.

When I joined this forum I was stunned to see all the good will directed at Mike Love, people saying he had changed and was a good guy etc. Good to see that reversing. Once an asshole, always an asshole.

I just don't see why Mike has to go there.

Nobody, Al or Brian, dredges up Mike's drunk RnR HOF speech. Or Mike beating up a drunk Dennis into a bloody mess mid show at the Greek in 1981 and then locking him in a closet. Or, or, or.

....beating his child in the '60s, according to his ex-wife.

Honestly just Horrendous

I know.  Let's twist and turn this interview to our liking.

Mike looks  A LOT older and not his usual self in that video. Hope everything is ok

yaaawwwwwnnnnn.

Yes indeedy. Just Mike Love being his good old Mike Love Selfie.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

Oh, so you're the people who get to censor what I post. I was wondering who they were.

Look., if you're that bored with the interviews or news stories I post, don't read them.  Mike talked to an interviewer. It was in my newsfeed and I shared it. It's not my fault that AGD's topic generated a 34 page pissing match.  And, before you accuse me of having a go at Mike, I have also shared Al's interviews and started the Brian biopic thread because I thought Beach Boys fans might actually be interested in the things that are in the news currently. You know, as opposed to just dissecting every note of the 15th take of some vocal fragment recorded in the summer of '66 in Dennis' girlfriend's basement or something.

This "discussion forum" has a curious way of shutting down any actual discussion. If it's not argumentative around here, it's dismissive.

Its interesting to see Mike probably simmering over Brian's recent tour.

I believe he was referring  to Mike's "mirror on the shoes" comment.


And yeah, Mike looks really old in that little video.

Mike IS really old.

That's something of a low blow.... It might be ironic to Mike that Brian stayed rich for so many decades off his efforts to a large extent and now gets treated like a God for basically showing up and doing nothing..... Nah, Mike know's the work he's put in. He'z not shimmering.

Because they asked him maybe?  :) And the other band members have given much, much worse interviews over the years and said far more critical things...

I honestly don't understand people being bothered about something which is already widely known (the Wilsons' drug use) being mentioned in an interview.

I think it shows the interviewer was right though. He asked whether Mike gets criticism for being one of the non-drug users and immediately the internet is alive with, 'how dare one person confirm the already well know fact that some other people took drugs'.  :)

Actually, by all accounts it was a "bloody fistfight" and not simply Mike attacking Dennis. Oh, but Dennis is known to have knocked Mike out cold once simply because Mike asked why he'd missed soundcheck... Also, the Dennis being locked in a closet was at a 1979 Universal
Amphitheater incident where Dennis attacked Mike, and it was crew guys who locked him in a closet... I know bashing Mile is the important thing here but you really should read your Stebbins.

What a shock. The Mike Love apologists Nicko and Pinder go to bat for the Luvster.

Yup, read all of Stebbins books. Have you?  He has got a chapter in his FAQ book called, "'The Fun Of Hating Mike Love'". Guess you missed that one Pinder.

You miss the point.  It's called hypocrisy. Love luvs to say he is "Mr. Positivity" and all about Good Vibrations but all he does is talk crap.
I'm sure Dennis beat the crap out of Mike every time until Dennis became a drunk and addict.

Anyway, here is a first hand account of the incident, Friday, July 17-1981.  http://manvsclown.wordpress.com/2006/07/21/why-i-hate-mike-love/
Certainly doesn't put Dennis in anything but a sad light:


I just read that Brian, Al & David are touring this summer WITHOUT Mike! One of the dates is in October at LA’s great Greek Theatre. It reminded me of a time long ago when the boys were playing the Greek. In a RARE move, there was an actual pretty cool stage set….With palm trees and surfboards. Dennis showed up in his limo from Venice with a whole group of homeless lads and none of them were feeling any pain. In those days, there were two drum sets on stage, one for Dennis and one for Bobby Figueroa, in case Dennis wondered off. It was a very tense night based upon Dennis and his guests. It was a big deal for the BB to play a real “hard ticket” date in LA at a big theatre…Reviewers were expected. Brian was there…But not really. Anyway, in those days there was a moment in the show where Dennis would introduce Bruce who would sing, “I Write The Songs” with just him on piano. Gave everybody a break. Well, Dennis went into his intro and slurred something about “the f****t Barry Manilow”. Mike dashed on stage, put his arm around his cousin, sorta apologized and then introduced Bruce. Here’s where it got’s funny….Just off stage Mike beat the sh*t out of Dennis. Very bloody. THEN locked him in the scenery closet. Over Bruce’s thin voice and single piano, everyone could hear what was going on. The band, without Dennis, returned to the show and after awhile DW’s friends came looking for him. They found and released him. The look on Mike’s face was PRICELESS when he all the sudden heard the sound of the second set and drums and looked back to see Dennis wearing his trademark BB swag shirt, covered in blood. Soon Dennis was throwing drum sticks at Mike, mostly missing and banging people in the front row. Brian, who hated ANY tension, just got up from the grand piano and walked off stage. THEN Dennis picked up one of the 6 inch palm trees and tossing it, missed Mike and hit a lady fan square on her face in the crowd. At that point, Mike just walked off in the middle of “Fun, Fun, Fun” and went to his car underneath the stage and left. That’s how the BB Greek Theatre show in Los Angeles ended.

Batting for him? :lol

An interviewer asks him a question about the Wilsons' drug use and he answers it. Shock horror. The evil bastard. How dare he?

'The Fun of Hating Mike Love'? Must have missed that one. :)

But you guys are so out of control that one does not have to be anything close to a Mike Love apologist to point out the gapping holes in your story. It just takes being a mere human who can read. Hey, and at least I can say I love THE BEACH BOYS and can mean it.

Why's he still so bitter and judgmental about the drugs anyway? You'd have thought the discovery that LSD had a hand in the conception of one of the group's greatest commercial successes might've opened his mind a bit.

If he could only apply a little of his TM mindset and learn to ACCEPT that Brian did drugs and that it's in the past, then maybe he'd find it easier to answer with a bit more dignity eg. "That's Brian's business" or "No comment". Of course he's entitled to air his opinions but when those opinions come across as narrow minded bigotry then he deserves all the bad press he gets.

I've always kept clear of the ML bashing threads (and pro Mike Love revisionist threads) because I know he has a lot of fans here but they seem to be an increasing staple of the board, maybe because the man himself keeps doing and saying stupid things. So my 2c: The 50th anniversary tour was a great opportunity for Mike to improve his reputation. He was great in the show, and apparently very helpful to those putting MIC together, for which I'm grateful, but all the other stuff just cemented my negative opinion of him.

Am I supposed to sympathise with Dennis after reading about the incident?

Am I to guess you're not a Dennis fan?

I love all of his Beach Boys tracks between 68 and 73 and I like POB and Bambu a lot. I suppose I'm a fan.

Okay. Fair enough

Mike threw a 6 inch palm tree into a lady fan's face? Man, you've been right all the time! Mike is evil!

A 6 inch palm tree? Wow, that must have looked like such an impressive stage prop. Spinal Tap would have been proud. :)

Mike has given some crass and tone-deaf interviews over the years, but I see nothing particularly offensive about this one.

During the reunion tour, Mike learns, 47 years after the fact,  that Brian's intro to 'California Girls' -- 'California Girls', Mike's pride and joy -- was influenced by LSD. That's interesting, no? I mean, what does the anti-drug Mike think about this information? Why is this not a proper interview topic for Mike to expound upon? Brian's drug use and abuse is part of the historical record, after all.

Well fair's fair, given that Mike *got* rich for so many decades off Brian's efforts to a large extent.  :-)

(Not that I'm underrating Mike's contributions, of course.  But hey, someone had to set his deathless lyrics to music, and that music did seem to have a bit of an effect...)


Yeah, it may well rankle him a bit that people will pay tribute to a guy for having created the music even without him having to sing every song himself, yeah.  Course, it's that plus having people just being glad he's still breathing, let alone creating, after a couple of decades of life-threatening mental illness, malpractice, and self-medication.  Wonder if Mike's ever contemplated making people feel grateful he's still alive.  :-)

Hey, while we're playing fun games:  in the Pet Sounds setlist at the Greek, which were there more of -- Brian Wilson lead vocals, or Mike Love song credits?...

Sorry, folks, had a bitch of a day,
Jon Blum

Chill. You are misunderstanding the gist of my post which is basically: Mike never changes.

Ah. Apologies then. And, agreed.

 :)

You guys have to work overtime if you expect to catch up to the epic 30 plus pages the last Mike interview inspired ,

Well, "excepting Pet Sounds" I should have said. I think we all can agree Pet Sounds is Brian's baby all around and no one can touch that fact.... But it's only one album out of many and it's not everyone's favorite....

So wait just a second!! Because you're a fan, you forgive Dennis throwing drum sticks into people's faces and hitting old ladies over the head with palm trees, but someone else who's a fan of Mike can't forgive a silly interview?

I think we all should be able to fully understand each other here: we forgive/dismiss a lot from these guys because we are fans.... Good enough for me.

teh blueboard existed in 1981? And Barry Manilow posted there? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

You keep missing the point, Pinder: Mike is Satan. The few good things he has done over the years was just in an effort to fool people into believing he's NOT Satan. We should all be wishing Dennis had pulled out an AK-47 at that Greek Theater show years ago, and blown the evil Lovester away, then and there, in front of all the fans. Dennis would not have to worry about going to prison for murder, because he would've been a hero for ridding the world of evil. He would've been awarded a Medal of Honor for killing that scumbag.

I think it was originally written as a gay slur word "f@$#%&" but was edited and changed to Blueboarder for some reason.

The story, if accurate, is sad example of Dennis' decline.

The funny part is, it probably obscured vision of Al...

That's one of the words that is blocked here.

This is nice:

http://somethingelsereviews.com/2013/10/13/i-just-wish-he-was-here-the-beach-boys-al-jardine-laments-split-with-mike-love/

I've often taken Mike's comments on the band and its drug use as more of a "Hey...We were a hardass band in our day too just like those other groups!" rather than a dig at group members. Could be wrong.

That palm tree might have actually BEEN Al!!!!!

Thanks Billy. Explains that.

It's always fascinating what Smileyers will/will-not excuse/overlook. And who they obsess over.

Nah, never a doubt in your case Cam.  ;D

Mike has done worse things than Dennis...
But I don't want to get into another silly discussion anymore. Even I'm getting tired of the Pro Mike/Anti Mike fights

It is silly, isn't it. And ignorant.

It's hard to believe people haven't figured it out yet. On the Asshole Meter, Mike Love has nothing - NOTHING - over Brian Wilson and Dennis Wilson. If you want to get out a piece of paper and draw three columns, one for Mike, one for Dennis, and one for Brian, and start writing down all the negative, regrettable, and abhorrent things each one did in their lives, well the results would be a lot different than many people on this board think - IN MY OPINION. Repeat, in my opinion. But, you, and others, don't want to go there. Believe me, you don't want to go there.

You sure about that??? Need we make a list of Dennis offenses!?

I hate to say it, but such a list would just make Dennis look like, well, a frankly awful person Beach Boy or no Beach Boy.

And I think we're all tired of the pro/anti-Mike thing! it reallty does get in the way of simply enjoying the music.

 But Dennis' offenses are forgivable because he was under the influence of drugs and alcohol. Ditto for Brian. Right? Now what is Mike's excuse?

You're not serious?

I'm no great Mike fan but I can think of a million excuses for Mike's behavior over the years. Deep seated family resentments being the main one. I'm sure everyone on this board has behaved like an arsehole during a family row at some time or another. Our's arent played out in public though.

And as for the Dennis thing, by your argument, a drunken husband who beats up his wife is "forgivable"?

I think not.

You weren't being serious, right?

I still find it utterly baffling that any fan of The Beach Boys would want to focus on the negative points of any band member. Obviously if you were to focus on the bad behaviour of Mike, Dennis, Brian or any of them then they are going to come out looking like a***holes. Somebody posting a review of Dennis acting like a tosser at a concert is similarly bizarre.

Over the years I would say I have seen a pretty even spread of comment here both positive and negative. When POB and Bambu came out a few years ago the board lit up mainly with praise. If its his personal life it goes the other way. That's what we do here.

I find it baffling that a Beach Boy fan would spend so much time being critical of other Beach Boy fans. ;D

But this is good news!  The next Mike interview thread where he talks about the bands' drug abuse will be shorter because you are sticking to "just talking about the music". Good man!  ;D

Didn't Mike also beat up one of his wives?

Mike's not alone unfortunately. Lots of people beat up the partners they supposedly love.

I thought he had an affair with his wife's sister? After he didn't attend his father's funeral. No, that was another mistress named Debbie. Before he offered drugs to his children.

You are aware today is International Sarcasm Awareness Day? Obviously no one is forcing you to curtail your hilariously inventive contemptious replies, but at least take some time to think of the many victims of sarcasm and cruel ripostes.

I myself will be refraining from any clever remarks today.

Ah, you've started the list? Good thing. I'm looking forward to the results. I expect Dave, Al and Carl to end up much lower in your asshole-o-meter than Mike, Brian and Dennis. As for Bruce - did he ever do anything at all?



No, Dennis has done worse things than Mike! (Let's get into a good old-fashioned kindergarten fight!)

No doubt Brian, Dennis, and Michael all rate high on the "A" meter if studied in detail.

Of course Dennis is dead these many years. He can't become more of an "A".

Brian has matured & mellowed considerable. He keeps quiet mostly but the "A" in him could come out -- he is unpredictable...

Mike is "A"live and well, (also mellowed from his youth) but makes an "A" of hisself everytime we turn around it seems. So just wait a while, he will stick his foot in his mouth again.  ;)

You mean has come out recently.

I was at the 1981 show at Greek Theatre and I agree with most of what was written except : The show came to a complete halt after the Bruce Dennis incident because Dennis kicked his complete drum set off the riser onto Mike who had to get out of the way fast.! There was a break there and when the band came back Dennis didn't come out right away.. Funny thing was BB sounded way better than 2 weeks before at Queen Mary Long beach..They redeemed themselves..The sight of Dennis Standing on top of white grand piano waving talkin weird + funny was Priceless  And he was out of control.! The audience was laughing but there was tension also wondering what Dennis was gonna do next.. Ive seen some strange things at concerts but this nite has to rate at top of the list..!

Somebody really ought to make an asshole list for Mike, Dennis, and Brian.
I'm curious to see the results

Wouldn't it be easier and better to simply enjoy the music of The Beach Boys?

Seriously: why do you guys insist on trying to screw up everyone's love of the band??

Lately it seems like this place is nothing but an open casting call for the next OSD.

What for? Everything in Brian's and Dennis' lists would be excused because they had mental illness and substance problems.

I'd rather praise the good work those three made together as a band. Even Mike and Dennis: Pacific Ocean Blues, Only with you and Sound of Free. It makes you wish Dennis had turned more often to Mike for lyrics, instead of Jakobson.

Oh jeez Pinder. Give us a break. It's all part of the story. Like why Smile didn't come out in 67.

So I can count you in with Nicko and only post about music related discussions?

Like there is a gun to your head making you read and post on these threads. For example, I am ignoring the why didn't Brian fire Mike thread.

I.Love. This.Band!!!  :-D :-D Jerry Lee would be proud of them

It's a part of the story but there's a lot more to the story than why SMILE didn't come out in 67 and how big an Ahole Mike is! .... It's just annoying in that it seems so many are fixated/obsessed over things that only detract from one's enjoyment of the very band we're here to discuss....

Even though it is scorned by everybody now, it seems like Brian's alleged autobio had a big influence on how a lot of fans perceive the members of the band. In that so-called book, a lot of Dennis' indiscretions are mentioned, but they are all forgiven because, after all, Dennis didn't know what he was doing, because he was so screwed up on dope. Mike, on the other hand, is portrayed as evil incarnate. Even Carl is portrayed as a bad guy in that book. The Brianistas should be happy the C50 ended, Brian no longer has to work with Satan. I wonder how well all of us here on the board would fare if our lives were under the microscope like the BB's?

Don't forget Al being branded a racist and Bruce being branded as Bruce.

Like I suggested,  you should stick to the threads dealing with just the music. Stop telling people what their opinions should be or how to express them. Read, or reread, Stebbins chapter on the fun of hating Mike Love.

But either keep on defending Mike and debating or keep to the music threads but don't tell us what we should talk about please.

I'm not telling anyone what to think or talk about any more than you're telling people what opinion they're supposed to have of Mike and what they should like/not like regarding The Beach Boys. C'mon man!

And I guess the irony in Stebbin's "The Fun Of Hating Mike Love" or his basic point went right over your head.

I think Jon's chapter went over your head. It is not about hating on Mike but of the pastime of people doing it.

Goodness, do you remember what you post? You've been ranting about people duscussing "the negatives" and not the music. Stop whining and complaining about what people post. Light a candle and put on "House of Four Doors". Chillax.

I've been ranting about negatives while you people do bscically nothing but try and paint Mike Love in the most negtive light possible??

I'll chill if you will, and any piece of writing can be taken many different ways, so fair enough about the Stebbins.

I think I'll put on Talking Out Of Turn instead because that spiraling key part I recorded, er, wait...... who am I? Am I that crazy Spanish guy or am I PINDER???

And what is this thread about? Mike Love does yet another interview dredging up Brian's drug use. To make matters worse, somebody posts a video link of Mike making a lewd comment about looking up women's skirts with a mirror.

Like I said, if you don't like the thread subject, ignore it. Or debate it. But don't go all out defending Mike, and then, when you think you are losing the game, complain about why the game is taking place.

I think you are a guy named Erik from Manhattan Beach staying up too late trying to make electronic and acoustic music.

Ummmm, is posting my name and where I'm from and insulting my attempts at music making really a good idea on a public message board? What the hell is wrong with you? Just because I defend the singer in The Beach Boys which runs contrary to your hallowed opinion??? And there's no game here to lose. If people are going to put up interviews and bash Mike, you can't expect anyone to come do his defense?

"Don't go all out defending Mike" ...... So, you're laying down the rules around here?

Ah, so "Pinder" is really Erik from Manhattan Beach, California?

You folks are getting pretty scary here.....

The interviewer drug up drug abuse, not Mike. Hey, Pinder keep up the good work. Was your name and that info shared in a private message by any chance?

No, and certainly not to either of the freaks that shared the info.

I like your album covers and some of your stuff Pinder. But what the F@$k. You posted in a thread when I said I was from Redondo Beach that you were from M Beach. Again, you can't remember what you post.

As to your name, umm, dude, you have multiple links to it, your bandcamp site, on the SSs Who Make Music section of the board. So you are now outraged that we can read what you post? This now explains the Mike Love idolizing.

I suggest you remove your bandcamp links off this site and removve your name from bandcamp. Right after you apologize to me for your ridiculous insults.

Yeah, I have those links up but that's no excuse to go posting that info for no good reason other than to be creepy!

And what insults am I to apologize for that you haven't far exeeded?

You are a very frightening indivudual.

Scenerio for Mike taking the high ground


Interviewer: "So Brian started using LSD in the 60s?"
Mike: "Gosh, the 60s  were crazy times".

I don't see how the interview paints Mike as anything other than a rock star who lived through the 60s in a band that includes some drug casualties.

How many interviews are there where members of The Who discuss Moon and his drug problems???

Nor is it like Mike's dropping some highly guarded secret regarding Brian's drug use. Brian himself has always been rather candid on the subject, so there's really no reason for Mike to bite his toungue, but it would be nice if interviewers got a bit more creative with their questions.

You asked who am I and I wrote what you openly post on this message board?
Yeah, apologize for calling us "crazies", creeps, accusing me of sharing your PMs, freaking out over information that YOU posted on this board, forr not admitting you are wrong. Geez, we all know AGD is Andrew from England. You do need to chill man.

WOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!   

Sure, but please understand: it's not so much the information, but how and why you put it out there.... If someone wants to go to my bandcamp, fine, but putting up such info as a comeback and to make fun of me, was probaby not the best move. It took a silly argument about the Lovester and made uis creepily personal.

And once again, I'll chill if you will...... Understanding how angry and tactical defending Mike makes you.... sheesh, I'll cut it out.

Im actually old enough to have actually enjoyed the BB for 51 yrs and nothing they do keeps me from enjoying their music or respecting them personally. They are human + frail and stupid and make mistakes like the rest of us..The mistakes they make actually add to their charm..Im allways rooting for them like a father to his children even tho they are 10 yrs or more older than me.. Its probably why I tear up during certain songs in concert..Their music tugs at the heart strings for me especially now as they  age. Kinda like rooting for Rocky in the movies.. We are very  lucky to grow up in a time period where we actually saw BB live and experienced their ups + downs.. Instead of reading about them after they are all gone.. In a history book.. And this is from someone who knows full well I could never be friends with at least 2 of them maybe 3.. And im not gonna explain why on this forum..  I love the greatest American R+R band in USA..THE BEACH BOYS.....!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty piss poor apology Pinder. It's pretty apparent who got angry here and started the name calling. You seriously over reacted. And accusing me/people of sharing your PMs. Not cool!  :-[

What are you talking about? I never accused anyone of that!

I said it wasnt cool and was creepy to put up my name and where I live as a comeback. That's it....

Are you sure it's me who needs to chill?

When have I ever taken things to that level or made personal digs at you or your hobby?

In fact, I've tried to arrive at middleground several times in these threads and have praised Brian over and over.

Without a doubt. You seemingly are unable to comprehend what you are writing and how you react.
I have done it myself on the board and taken stuff too personally.

Maybe this will get some SSs to now check out your tunes. You're welcome!

You're stepping a bit out of line here.... I'm trying to turn this around and you're just tearing to shreds and putting down anything/everything I say...

Yeah, we all get caught up here from time to time, but I didn't go and make very personal comments about you..... I said the Mike haters are out of control and suggested you read Stebbins. That's about it. And don't try and pretend you've been cool calm and collected this whole time because your comments to me don't present that. At least I admit you caught me off guard and freaked me out. I'm only human.

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/George-Costanza-Eating-Popcorn.gif)

Got some scotch to go with that popcorn???

For the love of everything that is The Beach Boys, shut the hell up.

I second that!

Costanza. Quite appropriate for bystanders including myself  ;D

As one of my favorite posters on the Smiley board once said, "That's it, who here wants to touch dicks?" 

are you offering?

Thanks so much for sharing the Greek Theater anecdote a couple pages back! This is pretty incredible stuff. I assume Carl wasn't there since this was only two weeks or so after the Long Beach concert, right? Must've been a tough time for being a fan.

I think both of you need to chill and take it to PMs. That said, posting someone's name and location without their permission is most certainly not allowed. I...really don't know what to say at this point.

He did not tell you what you should talk about , he made a suggestion. If you can't stand somebody not sharing YOUR opinion, feel attacked by him stating HIS opinion, and then act like you've been insulted, I suggest founding your own board where you allow only posters that share yours.

Pinder, I suggest to you (not telling you what you should do :wink) not to waste your time to quarrel with some guy who just won't reflect on his own view.

Nah, that just came to mind after reading Pinder's and ORR's exchanges. When I saw that at the end of an argument in a thread a few months ago, I LOL'd for 5 minutes! Instead of an old fashioned hug and make-up kiss or handshake with a pat on the back, it's.....

Hey, by the way, anybody here want Bgas's real name and general vicinity thereof?   ;D

Billy, you don't need to do anything, but thank you.

While I was out, he sent me a PM telling me what a douche I am and how much my music sucks and what a little girl I am, and then blocked me from responding.... So, I'm fully aware of the type of person I was wasting my time with.

OK, law of the land is, Mike sucks and prepare to be personally attacked and insulted if you don't agree.

At least OSD was funny!

As I like to say, 'Stones and Sticks may break my dick, but words just annoy me'

:lol

He could've posted a photo of your face too. Consider yourself lucky  :)

After reading the last 2-3 pages, I wonder if it's time again we have to lock yet another topic...  :-\

Happens every time there's a new Mike Love interview!  Same people, same time, same channel!

Obviously you didn't read all my comments so I say it again. People should be able to talk about Mike's comments if they want. But you look rather foolish to participate in that discussion over and over and then, when the arguement doesn't go your way, to turn and tell people "you should just talk about the music".

I think it's absurd for a guy who posts his hometown in a thread,  and posts multiple links to his personal music site on this board, to be upset his first name is mentioned. I may not be an expert but I don't think this is good marketing for an aspiring musician.

As to your point of view, you guys go bonkers every time Mike Love gets critiqued. Yeah, bring back OSD, he was funny.

Gregg
Lincoln Beach, Oregon

Can you please stop making this so personal? I am not an aspiring anything, just a hobbyist,  nor is your opinion exactly coveted. As ugly as things can get on this board, they have rarely, if ever, gotten so creepily personal. Please keep my attempts at music to the relevant threads and if I want my name, place of residence and off-board activities mentioned/criticized on threads about Mike Love, it will be my decision, thank you. I think that's fair enough.

Hey, I PMd you. You didn't want to talk about it. Sounds good to me! Again, I merely repeated what you had posted. And don't appreciate slurs and name calling directed at me. I am done.


Topic: My little page with my little albums 

I think it is.