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1. BW gave it the same intro as "Don't Back Down" (should this be added the song the song "connections" thread?)  ;D

2. Maybe it's just me, but this guy on Youtube who posted it doesn't seem to like the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcxfT9c_HPw

Was this even on Smile?
More importantly, is this even the Beach Boys?!

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You mean the "count off like" bass drum?

Yes.  Same tempo and everything. (I'm slightly joking, but it's kinda sorta true!)

Further proof of the Genius of Brian Wilson. Love it.

Teeter Toter Love is nothing but a musical dirty joke, and not a very good one.

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Wasn't aware this was part of the Smile Sessions box.

I think the BB should've recorded this around the time of the Light Album. Would've made a nice flipside to Brian's "Teardrops". ;D

Wait, there are some people here who still don't have a copy of, or even listened to the TSS box set?!?!?  :o

I LOVED it from the first listen!! Great fun.

That, or they can't read English.

Still not as bad as Summer Of Love, however
Nothing's as bad as Summer Of Love (BB's related only)

You've... not heard "Wrinkles", have you ?  ;D

Wrinkles fails because it has the WORST lyrics of any Mike Love song I've heard. It might not name check any old hits, but that would honestly be better.
Musically, it's not bad. Nothing special or interesting, but not bad.

I have not. If it was on Youtube, I would give it a listen.
Maybe it's for the best that I not hear it?

Teeter Totter Love is a lot better than most of the new music released by the Beach Boys in the mid/late 70's,80s and 90s. Unfortunately that says an awful lot more about the band's quality control and artistry (or lack thereof) than it does about Jasper Dailey's ability as a comedy singer and the compositional/production techniques used on his recordings.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who loves this song and really hopes the other two tracks Brian and Jasper did surface eventually (despite them very likely not existing anymore). :'(

I'm really glad someone thought to include this on TSS, as I'm sure many people involved didn't think it was appropriate for the release. One of those "they're totally thinking of the core fanbase" inclusions.

You're not.

But then I'd love a recording of Brian's farts if cut between August '66 and May '67

I've been a huge fan of this song since I first heard it in November 2011. What's not to love here?

Teeter Totter holds a token scrap of curiousity and mild amusement  value;  amounts similar to those on The Many Moods of Moody Murry.  But that's it - it's TSS's very own Bull Session or I'm Bugged.

While I'm setting about changing the world, Wrinkles is better than Summer of Love.

I like this song. It's fun even with Jasper's lack of being able to sing.

'Teeter totter love goes up,        Teeter totter love goes down'

What a masterpiece! It make's She's Goin' Bald sound like crap.

I hate this song. Not because it was recorded or that Brian bothered plaaying with this useless sh*t. I'm just mad it made TSS and thus displaced, for example, something of interest such as more real Smile material. What were the compilers thinking? Heck I'd take Battle Hymn any day over that.

"Battle Hymn..." is great! Whenever it plays I enjoy it, good vocals by Mike & Co. Teeter Totter is awful because I can't stand Dailey's voice; I'd rather hear any of The BBs than some obscure outsider. At least take some singing lessons if you're lucky to have been invited by Brian Wilson himself.

I LOOOOOOOVE "Teeter Totter Love." It's just so absurd! You just have to take it for what it is. Same reason you can't take "Take A Load Off Your Feet" seriously: if you do, you'll never enjoy it.

I have a theory that the backing track and the vocal track were recorded separately. Notice how the two are never quite in sync.

I pieced together a backing track for the song (culling all the moments of vocal silence in the song and pieced those together). I LOVE this backing track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ZNDfp2Oyw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ZNDfp2Oyw)

I'm so, so, so, so pleased we got to hear Teeter Totter - I want to hear everything, good or bad, if it's Beach Boys-related, and that's all there is to it.

I would argue that a completed song produced by Brian during the Smile period was very pertinent to the box. I'm grateful for its inclusion.

This is great!

I was really happy to get this track on TSS. A fun representation of all of the experimentalism of SMILE in the early days, before things got bogged done in endless tinkering with H&V and "Vega-Tables.

Maybe so.  I assumed Jasper Dailey was just that BAD a singer that he couldn't tell the difference.  

I can see the argument for including something better on TSS, but it was a tantalizing unknown for years and is a part of the story of that time period.  I find it amusing for an occasional listen...it's just so OUT THERE.  But I sure would have been pissed if I were somebody who paid money for it had it been released as a single or album track in 1967!

Nice job!  And a couple of photos I'd never seen before.  Thanks!

I love this track! I want the other two. It's incentive enough to sell one million units.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hZPDYCGFw

I like it.

Very nice. Wonder if Brian ever bumped into Vic Mizzy at sessions? Adams Family, Green Acres...that's what Brian's tapping into here.

I have to imagine Jasper knew exactly what his voice was and was not, given this performance. I'm not sure what the intent was behind these tracks, but the arrangement is great and Jasper sounds like he's having a lot of fun, which is about all that matters for me.

Ultimately, even if it were the worst thing I'd ever heard, it's a finished Smile-era Brian composition. I'd rather have heard it than not, wouldn't you? I doubt anything of great substance was removed from the set for its inclusion.

There is very little not to like about TSS but this track stinks.....period. The only other part of any disc I need to skip over is the Brian getting stuck in the instruments stuff. Just like this guys rotten voice on teeter totter, the "Brian...Brian..come outta there mannn....." I could not stand people that talked like that.

Highlight of the entire Smile Sessions box.

Please please please please release the other Jasper tracks.

Please.

No seriously, please.

I think its inclusion in TSS is great and valid.

Explains where Brian was at at the time in terms of his sense of humour, but also actually pays homage to some of his sources/influences.

It might sound like a daft ditty (and Jasper's vocal ain't great) but it's from the same place as Friday Night/I Wanna Be Around, OMP/YAMS, or H&V Intro/Bells & Whistles etc.

And yes, it's probably the kind of thing that Murry would have boogied to… in fact maybe Murry had a hand in the lyrics… stranger things have happened.

You might not like its inclusion, kids, but its exclusion would have been the greater crime.

You seem genuinely angry.

Thanks for the reminder.... 8)

let's also not forget that cantina mix aside, teeter totter love is the only finished track from the entire Smile experience from october to march 1967. Ok i know that's a bit disappointing but it is true isn't it ? At least he didn't re-record the intro, add a tag to part 1 and a new fade and prelude and record a part 3 in an unrelated key followed by a stack of  Teeter totter love part 2's. How on earth would we put teeter totter back together again if he had ?
As far as the other 2 Jasper tracks are concerned, has anyone on board heard them and are they in any way related to other Smile sections we know or are they completely unrelated  compositions ?

The other two Jasper tracks have been missing for decades, seemingly. No tracks, no acetates, nothing. :(

Dude no need to panic. I copy and paste here from the thread tracks you wanted/missed/not included on MIC.

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Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on October 09, 2013, 09:23:37 AM
Also - more Jasper Dailey tracks. There should be a worldwide search going on for them. "Teeter Totter Love" was THE highlight of the entire Smile Sessions box.

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There are only two others, and there's no need to search - same place as "TTL" was."

so there you go . cause for celebration and a big thanks to Andrew for the info.
man i'm looking forward to Smile Sessions Volume 2. Now if only we could book Al,Brian and Van Dyke in for some vocal overdub sessions.

Whoa, they've been found? Really hoping that's what Mr. Doe meant.

Extremely accurate post.

"I'd rather have heard it than not, wouldn't you?" Exactly. I just do not understand these 'fans' who complain about this sorta thing... What, so you'd rather it was just never released ever and neither you nor anyone else got to hear it??

Exactly. Weird tracks like Teeter Totter Love only add interest to the catalog. They don't take anything away.

Who's the worst of the proposed singers?

-Jasper Daily (teeter totter love, when I get mad I just play my drums)

Or…

-Dick Reynolds (How Deep is the Ocean?, Stella by Starlight)

Hearing "Teeter Totter Love" as an instrumental makes it just how obvious this song was a precursor to later experiments like "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter" .

I think 'Goin' To The Beach' is pure crap. However, I would rather have it than not, and that's on a set in which there were 'only' 60+ unreleased tracks. On TSS there were 5 CDs of almost entirely unreleased material and people are moaning about one single minute-and-a-half track?? Madness!!

I trust it's obvious to everyone that Jasper (and for that matter, Brian on the slide whistle) can't hear the backing track properly?  Which is why he loses his place after the first verse?

First thing popped into my head when I heard this and the Vegetables laughing demo on TSS disc one: "Stay in school kids.  Don't do drugs." 

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Sure, what time do you want to meet up?

I had a kid jump off the teeter totter while I was at the top.

Its a big pain in the ass!