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Title: Outside singers
Post by: Burnley Vest on April 28, 2006, 12:35:54 PM

I noticed a report that Murry sang on "Be Here in the Morning" and found that somewhat remarkable for various reasons...not least that the while the BBs used all kinds of outside instrumentalists, they seem to have seldom brought in outside vocal talent, Dean on "Barbara Ann"notwithstanding.

How often did this happen? Any other prominent examples come to mind?

I remember reading once that Alex Chilton got a call to get his pipes over to Brothers Studios pronto to sing on a BB recording (or words to that  effect...I definitely remember the word "pipes"...and AC is not a bagpipist). Did that ever happen? Maybe he was their first choice for "BHITM"! His voice did sound awfully deep on that early Box Tops stuff.



Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 28, 2006, 12:36:43 PM
Manager Jack Rieley on Day In The Life Of A Tree, Honeys on Be True To Your School.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Jason on April 28, 2006, 12:37:13 PM
Marilyn Wilson sang on the 1971 version of Surf's Up, most notably.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Cabana Boy on April 28, 2006, 12:38:01 PM
Van Dyke on 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree'.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 28, 2006, 12:38:13 PM
And Let's Put Our Hearts Together.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Cabana Boy on April 28, 2006, 12:39:01 PM
AND 'It's Over Now'.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Burnley Vest on April 28, 2006, 12:41:17 PM
sh*t, you guys are quick!

I have to say, by the way, that the choice of Reily for ADITLOAT is so inspired. Does that guy sound like a dying tree, or what?

Still waiting on Chilton...


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 28, 2006, 12:43:32 PM
AND 'It's Over Now'.

Man, that's my favorite, too.
That section breaks my heart.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Roger Ryan on April 28, 2006, 12:47:42 PM
Audree sings on some of the Hite Morgan sessions, but seem to remember someone said she sang at a later session as well.

We don't have to bring up John Stamos, do we?!


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Mitchell on April 28, 2006, 12:48:52 PM
Stephen Desper said he sang at least 1 line in a LOT of Beach Boys recordings he did.
Hal Blaine in Amusement Parks USA
Nick Venet and his girlfriend in County Fair


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 28, 2006, 12:49:40 PM
Nick on Summertime Blues too.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Jonas on April 28, 2006, 12:53:25 PM
Read somewhere that MArilyin is in Funky Pretty...actually, didnt someone compile a list of all the songs Marilyn sang in?


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Jon Stebbins on April 28, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
Marilyn is on Its OK, Solar System... tons of stuff. Gary Usher is most likely on Lonely Sea. Double Rock Baptist Choir on That Same Song and River Song. Christine McVie on Love Surrounds Me. Dennis hired a couple of chicks to sing backgrounds on Got to Know the Woman. I have a feeling if I took some time to really think this through there would be like 30 or more examples of outside people on BB's stuff...its not that rare of an occurence.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Jon Stebbins on April 28, 2006, 12:58:34 PM
Stephen Desper said he sang at least 1 line in a LOT of Beach Boys recordings he did.
Hal Blaine in Amusement Parks USA
Nick Venet and his girlfriend in County Fair

That's not Nick's girlfriend on County fair...its Dave Marks' aunt Andrea Carlo.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Jon Stebbins on April 28, 2006, 12:59:23 PM
Nick on Summertime Blues too.

Nick's not on Summertime Blues...that's Carl and Dave.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: andy on April 28, 2006, 12:59:54 PM
blind


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Burnley Vest on April 28, 2006, 01:02:23 PM
I actually mentioned BA initially...I guess Chilton never made it to that session...


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Cabana Boy on April 28, 2006, 01:14:32 PM
That section breaks my heart.
With ya. *Soooooooo* damn beautiful.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Alan Boyd on April 28, 2006, 01:21:12 PM
The backing vocals on the second section of TRADER are Carl and Marilyn.... and Marilyn's all over 15 BIG ONES.  I really hear her on "Rock and Roll Music," "That Same Song" and "It's OK."

I think Gerry Beckley is on SAIL ON SAILOR....

I can hear Jack Reiley on the tag to MARCELLA....


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Artie on April 28, 2006, 01:24:40 PM
I believe I read on C-man's dissertation of "Today" that Marilyn is singing the extra high vocal on "Do You Wanna Dance" - not Brian - and my listening of the vocals isolated plays this out - I had always thought that was Brian letting rip with that big "oh whaaaaaa haaaaa" in the last chorus, but it's Marilyn


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: SloopJohnB on April 28, 2006, 02:38:58 PM
Isn't Marilyn featured in "I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man"? I really hear her on the "Darn my dad", "Blew it bad", "Gosh it's dark"... sections...

Or am I completely deaf?  ;D

Edit: To me, it seems like it's Brian's voice on the "wo whaaa haaaa" of Do You Wanna Dance... I think Marilyn never had such a powerful voice...  :(


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Wyndham on April 28, 2006, 04:20:36 PM
The backing vocals on the second section of TRADER are Carl and Marilyn.... and Marilyn's all over 15 BIG ONES. I really hear her on "Rock and Roll Music," "That Same Song" and "It's OK."

I think Gerry Beckley is on SAIL ON SAILOR....

I can hear Jack Reiley on the tag to MARCELLA....

I never really listened that hard to the background vocals for the second part of the Trader before, but they are so good. It's also Carl's best lead IMO


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Mark H. on April 28, 2006, 05:56:26 PM
There seems to be some folklore that Brian used voices on Pet Sounds other than the band.  I read some source that states Brian used Terry Melcher, among others, in sections where he was dissatisfied with the BBs effort.  I actually doubt this is true because I don't hear any voice that sounds like anyone else.  Anyone else heard this?


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: c-man on April 28, 2006, 06:26:59 PM
Terry DID sing on one "Pet Sounds" session...the tag of "God Only Knows", along with Marilyn and The Boys, but that got mixed out of the original version, but can be heard today on the box sets.

Some girls are singing on the "Smiley" version of "Wonderful"...or it's the Boys on helium...

I think Jack also sang on the "Child" tag of the '71 "Surf' Up"...

Marilyn is on "Long Promised Road"...

Marilyn is on "Beaks Of Eagles", and Diane joins her on "Steamboat", "Funky Pretty", and part of the Fairy Tale.

M and G are also on, I think, "Our Team".

Marilyn is on "Do You Wanna Dance", but Brian does sing a magnificent falsetto there also.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Ebb and Flow on April 28, 2006, 07:20:31 PM
Mentioned on here a while ago, on a few verses of Busy Doin' Nothin' Brian and Marilyn sing the part together.  It sounds almost like double tracking, their voices are so similar.

And Priore mentions in his SMiLE book that the Survivor's filled in a few vocal parts on The Surfer Girl LP when the boys were on tour.  Not sure about the truth of that though...


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: c-man on April 28, 2006, 07:33:55 PM

M and G are also on, I think, "Our Team".


I meant, "M and D"...as in Marilyn and Diane...


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: c-man on April 28, 2006, 07:36:20 PM
And Priore mentions in his SMiLE book that the Survivor's filled in a few vocal parts on The Surfer Girl LP when the boys were on tour.  Not sure about the truth of that though...

Yeah, that was mentioned by Rich Sloan (aka Alarian) and Dave Nowlen in an interview with ASM back in '83...but if you listen to all the vocal tracks from that album, it's clear that it's actully just the Boys.
The Survivors may have sung on earlier demos or prototypes, but I don't think they're on the final versions.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: c-man on April 29, 2006, 07:18:07 AM
Billy sings on "Sail On Sailor", along with Gerry Beckley and Tom Martin.

I've always thought I can hear Billy on "Radio King-dom" as well...listen and you'll hear the part I'm talking about.  But when I asked Billy about this a few years back, he had no recollection of it.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: c-man on April 29, 2006, 07:33:05 AM
And, I think I hear Marilyn on "You're So Good To Me"...in the "la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-" part.


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Mitchell on April 29, 2006, 08:27:08 AM
Some girls are singing on the "Smiley" version of "Wonderful"...or it's the Boys on helium...

From the Stephen Desper Thread (now in PDF form):
Quote
WONDERFUL

Baldwin Organ and cellest at first with Carl

Wa Wa Wonderful is wives singing segment

Children, who I think were Carl's (that would be Jonah), were present at the vocal recording and ask to be quite, but the whispers were kept in the mix because of the "party" section

Harmonica

Party like sounds of family gathering, a seperate recording. Audree (mother), Dennis and Brian are named. All the wives and other friends are in the mix. Piano* in background with organ.

Brian at piano*

Na-Na is Brian & Carl

*The piano has a special tuning practiced by some piano tuners who tune studio pianos. It widely detunes the second and third string of the note set.


In Windchimes the "honk" -- do you mean at 1:26, the organ stop in tape echo?

~swd


Title: Re: Outside singers
Post by: Mitchell on April 29, 2006, 08:28:30 AM
Speaking of a party, there's the Party album with the wives and girlfriends...