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http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/2013/09/beach_boys_al_jardine_on_brian_wilson_interview.php

Thanks for that! I love how Al refers to Mike as "that other guy". :lol

"Run, James, Run"  :o

Alright then, leave to Al Jardine to get this board back on topic. Another "new" title--the return of "Run, James, Run."  Doesn't sound like that guy running the Beach Boys is currently on the Jardines' Christmas card list...

'That other guy' quote made me laugh, oh those wacky Beach Boys! Intriguing that Al loves Love You, this means Al>Foskett.

Snappy title, but... it sure sounds kinda familiar.  ::)

"he'll be doodling on a little tune called "Surf's Up." We'll be opening he second set with some songs from Smile, and he'll accompany us, or we with him. He'll do the melody on guitar, and we'll accompany it with some vocals."

Hot damn! Sounds tasty. I was hoping to hear this live... can't wait.

What a fun callback to Pet Sounds, too! Every reviewer with access to Wikipedia can pseudo-helpfully note it was the original title for the instrumental.

He's definitely talking about Bruce...  ;D

It's nice that someone is doing this for "us", but beyond the fact that the title makes me smile, I can't say I'm too pleased that there's gonna be a car song on the new album.  :whatever

Horror has a new name.

That Other Guy.

Coming Soon.

As long as it is better than Desert Drive or PT Cruiser then I'm ok with it.

Cars do still exist in 2013. They weren't all made in 1962-1963. If it's clever it can still work today.

Sure, but Spring Vacations and Beaches still exist, too, and it seems we want none of that!

Nice to hear Al is singing lead on the album.  Sounds like it might be a Brian Wilson album in name only, this is the next Beach Boys album.  Now, some might argue with that saying Mike needs to sing on it in order for it to be a Beach Boys album but my point is that while Mike and Bruce have drifted to tour on their own, it seems Brian, Al, and Dave have never ceased to be a band since the reunion ended.  It's not the reunion ended so Brian went back to his solo career, the reunion never ended, it's just that a couple of guys backed out of it.  This album is THE follow-up to That's Why God Made the Radio and I couldn't be more excited.

I really like Spring Vacation, but you got me with Beaches In Mind. Though, that damn chorus gets stuck in my brain every time I play it. Dag blasted, song! ;)

Those pics of Mike in that other thread were, well, scary!

So far we can solidify that we'll hear...

-Little Deuce Coupe
-Custom Machine
-Surf's Up

...and when he mentions opening the second set with SMiLE songs, that at least almost guarentees

-Our Prayer
-Heroes and Villains

And, reports from Brian's woodshed:
>  "He Come Down" -- but not a remake of the gospel tune.
>  "Run, James, Run" -- but not the rejected Bond theme song better known as the instrumental "Pet Sounds"


Speaking of 007 references, Mike quoted Ian Fleming in a recent interview "Never say Never":
(http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/834326_The-surf-s-still-up-for-Mike-Love-and-the-Beach-Boys.html?page=2)

Al also made reference to an Agent.
“Some young man from New Orleans, a fledgling agent I think, sent these doo wop tapes to me,” said Jardine.
(http://www.buckslocalnews.com/articles/2013/02/14/entertainment/music/doc511d4c1a7f42d706680653.txt)


What's the secret, Vito Salutation?  ;-)
(http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000041668376-i1mhpa-crop.jpg?16b9957)

Ian Fleming didn't say that!  Sean Connery's wife said that when he said he'd never play James Bond again.  Hence why the 1983 film in which he returned to the role was called "Never Say Never Again."  And Ian Fleming had been dead for nearly twenty years by that point.

Mike Love misquoted Ian Fleming. False attribution.  :quote

I would argue that without 4 of the most recognizable Beach Boys it ain't The Beach Boys.

I would argue the same about any band that lacks a Wilson or Jardine.

Regardless, the OP didn't say that Brian's group should even be called the BBs. Only that it's the true continuation of the C50 tour for Brian. Which looks to be true enough.

Uck, another car song. Count at least one dud on the album.

By that logic, That's Why God Made the Radio wasn't a Beach Boys album either.

Can we at least listen to it first?

Don't Worry Baby is a car song too, y'know.

So is Shut Down, Deuce Coupe, and 409 which are good classic car songs.

But if it's another Drivin' or PT Cruiser, I'll pass.

Don't Worry Baby is not a car song in the same sense as Little Deuce Coupe et. al. If we have one of those, we're f***ed.

It's pretty clear Mike isn't the only one not "fucking with the formula."

This means that Brian can no longer carry an album or tour on his own. Otherwise, he wouldn't need other lead singers. On the other hand, Brian can't really tour the way Mike's Beach Boys do, over 100 dates a year. So, maybe, the Brian brand of Beach-Boys-not-Beach-Boys is a win/win for him. He gets to have people helping him out on vocals, helping him out on production (Joe Thomas), and he can tour and have a career that brings the Beach Boys experience to the fans in his own way.

I'm sure it will be closer to the latter two. Brian's last car song, "Desert Drive," was a complete lyrical disaster.

deaaaad maaan's cuuurve

Nah. There is a huge difference between the contribution made by Carl, Dennis and Mike to the Beach Boys than there is to the contribution made by Blondie and Ricky.

Brian, Al and David all appeared on Drivin' I think. That didn't make it a Beach Boys song.

Its not subject matter that makes a song good or bad.

Of course Mike and Bruce aren't really The Beach Boys. That goes without saying.

What about Summer In Paradise? No Brian or Dennis. Their two most recognizable members.

Not a Beach Boys album to me.

How about you Nicko??

Well as that was only missing 2 of the main six Beach Boys at that point I'm presuming that you agree with me that an album missing 4 of those 6 guys certainly isn't a Beach Boys album.

And while SIP technically has the group's name on it, I don't think it captured the essence of the group. Just as Brian's solo album couldn't (though doubtless it will be superior).

You know, way back when, many of us became fans of The Beach Boys due to the surf and drag songs. As Mikie stated above, if it is of a quality such as Shut Down etc., then I welcome it. I keep forgetting that many here are not fans from the beginning. It amazes me that so many dislike the music that made them a top tier rock band.

I agree with those saying that people should give the car song a chance. The song's content is much more important than its theme.

I like many (most) of the car songs they did in the early 60s, I'm not a snob about that era of their music and I know it is vital to what came after. However, this is just not what I want to be hearing from Brian and Al at this point in their career. The track could be very good, and I'm trying not to dismiss it before I hear it, I'd just rather have an album full of more....uh, age appropriate material from the guys at this point. So far I'm getting a GIOMH feeling from what's happening here, and I would LOVE to be proven wrong.

It can't be that bad. I don't think Brian's management would be stupid enough to let that happen again even if Brian was not really engaged (not that I'm suggesting that is the case).

"...that other guy"

I have to stop reading these Al Jardine interviews. They are making me lose respect for him.

You're over thinking this thing. Even with one more car song, just think how many love songs he has written. Would it bother you if he wrote another?

You know, there's nothing like dropping the top on a convertible on a warm summer day, turning the stereo up full blast,  and cruising the highway to wherever you find your joy. That kind of enjoyment is not limited to youth. If it was, the car shows I go to would be populated by teenagers instead of guys and gals my age, and the beaches would not be prime family vacation destinations.

I love the car songs and the beach songs. Bring 'em on!

I think it is funny. He's still pissed that Mike ended things on schedule. They will all get back together again, count on it.

Yeah, they'll get back together. It will probably be at somebody's funeral though...

By the 55th Anniversary or maybe before.

Considering what Mike has done to Al over the years, Al calling Mike "the other day" really isn't the worst he could be saying.

A few "Pet Sounds" shows in 2016 would be my guess.  A quick money grab for all five before they again run back to their respective camps.

Isn't Jeff Beck into cars in a big way? Maybe that's part of how they got him to participate.

"You writin' songs about cars, Bri? I'm in, mate!"

It seems like Brian's actually into this record, he's taking his time about it, there is more than one singer on this album as opposed to GIOMH. Al seems genuinely excited about this record, as does Jeff Beck.

I really dislike Desert Drive from GIOMH - so I see where you're coming from. I have nothing against them doing a car song - if it's done right. At a stretch, Pacific Coast Highway is kind of a car song - and that was unbelievably good.

At this point in Brian's career, I think he's looking for a grand slam - something to make the Lovester jealous ;D, something to please his hardcore fans (hence he's bringing back Blondie, the apparent smile-esque songs), and something to please the public (the pop songs, having Al, Dave, and Brian on the record).

I think this record is going to kick some ass, and I can't wait to hear it!

I think they're feigning discontent because there is no story without conflict. Keeps them in the news in the lull between new product. Builds momentum for forthcoming work. Builds anticipation for another reconciliation. Classic Hollywood hype.

Yeah, that's another clunker - "Desert Drive".  And yes, you can expect another "car song" to be like that one.

Besides Soul Searchin' and City Blues, Desert Drive is only other song that I like on that album. I remember Darian loving the song, as well. He thought it was cool how Brian named Wayne Newton and Danke Schoen in the lyric.

Brian also kept writing car songs in the 80s .... "Let's Go to Heaven in My Car" as a solo artist and "In My Car" for the Beach Boys. So it's not like he's ever actually dropped the topic. I think he just really likes cars, as tacky as some of the tunes turn out to be.

I also think, BTW, that it's preposterous to say that this is all because Brian can't record or tour solo anymore. The Gershwin record was only three years ago, and he did just fine with singing and touring that on his own. I do think, though, that the C50 experience brought it home to BW that he wants to be in a band. It's more pleasant as a touring experience, and I'm sure it's more fun in the studio to have more people around who actually were with you in the glory days.

Doc, I must say that I agree with you on that. Desert Drive isn't that bad and is one of the highlights of that record, thought that isn't saying much. When I listened to GIOMH for 2 weeks straight way back when, I always played that track as it did rock a little bit. The best car song since "Let's Go To Heaven In My Car" (with Gary Usher's son playing lead guitar on the latter track I might add).

Desert Drive was bad because they didn't use the Paley backing track and replaced it with a punchless one (that Lana intro on GIOMH makes me kind of angry!) and, to a much lesser extent, because Mike didn't sing it. (OK, nor will he sing the new one.)



I enjoy Spring Vacations a lot more than I'd expect from a song like that, and Beaches in Mind gets much better when you speed it up by one sixth. Also, Beaches would have needed a rock kind of arrangement.



Oh, you're  f***ed because of there's a car song on the album? Poor you. I'm not.

Um... asking Dennis to play on SIP was always going to be tricky. I can understand why they didn't.

But yeah, I wasn't necessarily saying that the new album SHOULD officially be a Beach Boys album which it most definitely will not be but I'm saying that it's certainly more than a Brian Wilson solo album, perhaps more accurately, it lies somewhere in the middle.  While Al and Dave might be billed as "special guests," I think it's safe to say that they are part of the band and that they are continuing as a band from what they started a year or two ago when the Beach Boys reunion began.  Whatever your opinion is on Mike and Bruce, there's no doubt that the reunion is over for them and they've moved on and have no intention of looking back.  So while Brian, Al, and David might not exactly be the Beach Boys, they certainly are the same band they were in 2012 just minus a few players (and plus Jeff Beck which more than makes up for the absence of Mike Love and Bruce Johnston).  From that standpoint, I don't see this as Brian Wilson's followup to his solo albums.  This is Brian Wilson with Al Jardine and David Marks following up on the hit album on which they were all prominently featured in 2012.  That was a Beach Boys album, this is not but I think it will certainly feel like one and it probably feels like one to the contributing parties as well.

Um... note that I was referring to how Nicko argued that without 4 of the most recognizable member's of the group, Brian's current project couldn't be The Beach Boys. Which is obvious. The current's a Brian Wilson solo album with Al Jardine, David Marks, and Blondie Chaplin pitching in amongst others.

But by using Nicko's rationale about the most recognizable members not being there, I asked if he thought should count as a Beach Boys album even though it's two most recognizable members (Brian and Dennis, regardless of the circumstances for why they weren't there).

Whatever though, it's understandable that you wouldn't get it.

Also Nicko, since the current group touring as "The Beach Boys" has only one original member and is missing four other most recognizable  and important members, I guess that means by your standards that this group that is touring with the name is surely not The Beach Boys despite what they promote themselves as.

Yep, I did say exactly that earlier in this thread. Obviously they are not really The Beach Boys.

Fun interview.  How great would it be if they do 'Honkin Down the Highway' and some other 'Love You' tunes on the tour?

Didn't Al Jardine's solo album feature contributions from Mike, Brian, Bruce, and old CARL stuff....? Should we start calling THAT a beach boys album  ::)

Well, we could call "Don't Fight the Sea" a Beach Boys' track, for certain.

Dry English humor not your strong suit, I see.  ;D

How do you know they didn't? ;D

Nor yours, it would appear. :P

No, Desert Drive is a bad song because of its completely unimaginative lyrics and melody.

Disagee, but each their own.

Al wants to do it, I doubt Brian would have a problem..

That leaves....


(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jeffrey+Foskett+Unveiling+Guitartown+Sunset+wkXQyw4TGMhl.jpg)

The "Love You" hater himself, Foskett

Giving a song like 'I Bet He's Nice' a modern/revamped flavor would probably be a huge hit among fans methinks.

ANOTHER reason I love Jeff so much.   >:D   :lol

...The bit that most jumps out at me is about Al saying that they'll probably pull out "Run James Run" in the spring/summer period.

Which means that this touring arrangement looks like it's gonna be going on for a while...!  Meaning a better chance of getting down to see them!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

I agree. (with drbeachboy)

lolz

The instrumental track from the Paley Session was pretty kick ass, though.

Still is! GIOMH track - not.



LÖL!

Perhaps he's more of a Benny Hill kind of guy??   ;D