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Title: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 03, 2013, 08:38:10 PM
In thinking recently about "Full Sail", I recalled that the bridge is sung by a non-BB (as I remember from some posters on the board, this was co-writer Cushing-Murray on lead in this part, right?). This rarely gets talked about, but it's a bit surprising that a non-BB sang this bridge part, I suppose.

I know we also have "It's Over Now" + "Let's Put our Hearts Together" with Marilyn, "ADITLOAT" with Jack Rieley, "Forever" with Uncle Jesse, but am I missing any others? I'm almost certain I am.  

I guess we almost had "Honkin' Down the Highway" with the Billy Hinsche vocal take (which I'd love to hear someday), and "California Feelin'" by the Pamp-ster, if that counts.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 03, 2013, 08:56:56 PM
The album version of "Summer in Paradise" has Roger McGuinn singing one of the verses.  Jeffrey Foskett sings prominently enough on a few of the songs on That's Why God Made the Radio that I think would qualify him as a co-lead vocalist (particularly on "Private Life of Bill and Sue" and "Shelter").


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Jesse Reiswig on September 03, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
There's a female voice singing lead in "Be Here in the Morning" on the lines "It's been such a long day so you better hurry home" and the corresponding lines in the other verses. Marilyn? Diane? Or am I crazy and that's actually Brian sounding very feminine? I could swear I've read somewhere that that is a woman singing though.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: metal flake paint on September 03, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
IIRC, that's Al.

Van Dyke Parks has a prominent line in the coda of ADITLOAT.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Phoenix on September 03, 2013, 10:08:49 PM
I guess we almost had "Honkin' Down the Highway" with the Billy Hinsche vocal take (which I'd love to hear someday), and "California Feelin'" by the Pamp-ster, if that counts.

http://youtu.be/rdhua948tV8

Enjoy!  I know I do.  No comparison in my eyes ears.  It's a shame it will probably never see an official release.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 03, 2013, 10:17:29 PM
In thinking recently about "Full Sail", I recalled that the bridge is sung by a non-BB (as I remember from some posters on the board, this was co-writer Cushing-Murray on lead in this part, right?). This rarely gets talked about, but it's a bit surprising that a non-BB sang this bridge part, I suppose.

I've always thought it to be Carl, from very first listen back in 1979.

Van Dyke Parks has a prominent line in the coda of ADITLOAT.

Jack Rieley has an even more prominent line in the verses and choruses.  ;D

Marilyn on "LPOHT" & "It's Over Now"... Arnie Geller on "With Me Tonight"... Gene Gaddy on "H&V"... Nik Venet, Andrea Carlo, Hal Blaine...


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 03, 2013, 10:22:41 PM
It's not really singing but Hal Blaine on "Amusement parks U.S.A.".

I like that slightly faster "Honkin' Down The Highway". It rocks more!


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on September 03, 2013, 10:26:05 PM
also I remember watching a youtube clip, it may have been an Al gig...??...... billy hinsche is doing backup on 'heroes and villiains' and someone
says that he sang on the original recording......


is that right?


there is also the voices in 'county fair', forget who they are off the top of my head....
also Marilyn on 'do you wanna dance'...... sure there's gonna be heaps of em...

RickB


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 03, 2013, 10:30:21 PM
Bellagio 10452 is your friend.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on September 03, 2013, 10:37:46 PM
true-er words were never said "Bellagio 10452 is your friend"  ;)

RickB


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: metal flake paint on September 03, 2013, 10:40:47 PM
Van Dyke Parks has a prominent line in the coda of ADITLOAT.

Jack Rieley has an even more prominent line in the verses and choruses.  ;D

Indeed he has  ;) 

Can't recall the drummer's name, but the clipped "...three" count-in at the start of Break Away, peut-etre  :-D


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Post by: zachrwolfe on September 03, 2013, 11:26:53 PM


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: JK on September 04, 2013, 06:59:53 AM
Dean Torrence on "Barbara Ann".


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Phoenix on September 04, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
also I remember watching a youtube clip, it may have been an Al gig...??...... billy hinsche is doing backup on 'heroes and villiains' and someone
says that he sang on the original recording......

is that right?

there is also the voices in 'county fair', forget who they are off the top of my head....
also Marilyn on 'do you wanna dance'...... sure there's gonna be heaps of em...

RickB

Yeah but those are just backing vocals, right?  I think this is more about actual lead parts.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Summer_Days on September 05, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
If memory serves, there are no Beach Boys singing background vocals on 'Livin' With A Heartache'.

Yeah I just checked: Curt Becher, Terry Melcher and Jon Joyce. For years I though I heard Bruce J. on bg vocals but I guess not.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Moon Dawg on September 05, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
  Marilyn's voice is fairly prominent on the background vocals of "Rock and Roll Music."

  Always wondered who the female voices on "Got to Know the Woman" might be.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Nicko1234 on September 05, 2013, 03:39:10 PM
Terry Melcher sings very prominently on the U.K. version of Island Fever.

Dean on Barbara Ann obviously.

Little Richard and Frankie Valli even more obviously.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: metal flake paint on September 05, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
 Marilyn's voice is fairly prominent on the background vocals of "Rock and Roll Music."

  Always wondered who the female voices on "Got to Know the Woman" might be.

Try this:
http://recordingsunflower.blogspot.com.au/2008/02/track-4-got-to-know-woman.html (http://recordingsunflower.blogspot.com.au/2008/02/track-4-got-to-know-woman.html)


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 05, 2013, 05:48:38 PM
 Marilyn's voice is fairly prominent on the background vocals of "Rock and Roll Music."

 

I also hear Marilyn on a lot of 15 Big Ones songs including "Its OK", "Had To Phone Ya", "That Same Song", and "Back Home".


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 05, 2013, 05:55:00 PM
If memory serves, there are no Beach Boys singing background vocals on 'Livin' With A Heartache'.

Yeah I just checked: Curt Becher, Terry Melcher and Jon Joyce. For years I though I heard Bruce J. on bg vocals but I guess not.

I forget, what's the source on this? I've seen it before but would swear I hear Bruce on there, too. Could he have possibly put his voice onto it after the original background vocal session? He did produce the album, after all, wouldn't have taken long for him to quickly do those parts in one take when no one else was around to witness and document it.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Quzi on September 05, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Marilyn on Busy Doin' Nothin'


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Summer_Days on September 06, 2013, 06:29:54 AM
If memory serves, there are no Beach Boys singing background vocals on 'Livin' With A Heartache'.

Yeah I just checked: Curt Becher, Terry Melcher and Jon Joyce. For years I though I heard Bruce J. on bg vocals but I guess not.

I forget, what's the source on this? I've seen it before but would swear I hear Bruce on there, too. Could he have possibly put his voice onto it after the original background vocal session? He did produce the album, after all, wouldn't have taken long for him to quickly do those parts in one take when no one else was around to witness and document it.

The KTSA/BB 2001 liner notes.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Paulos on September 06, 2013, 11:19:26 AM
Marilyn is very prominent on the Smiley Smile version of Wonderful.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: punkinhead on September 06, 2013, 06:25:42 PM
There's a female voice singing lead in "Be Here in the Morning" on the lines "It's been such a long day so you better hurry home" and the corresponding lines in the other verses. Marilyn? Diane? Or am I crazy and that's actually Brian sounding very feminine? I could swear I've read somewhere that that is a woman singing though.
Yeah, I think that's Al.

On another note about Be Here in the Morning, Papa Murry sings bass on the responding parts. I believe the story goes that mike was in India, thus, he wasn't there to sing his bass lines.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: punkinhead on September 06, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
also I remember watching a youtube clip, it may have been an Al gig...??...... billy hinsche is doing backup on 'heroes and villiains' and someone
says that he sang on the original recording......


is that right?


there is also the voices in 'county fair', forget who they are off the top of my head....
also Marilyn on 'do you wanna dance'...... sure there's gonna be heaps of em...

RickB
County Fair I believe is Nick…Venet


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: wantsomecorn on September 06, 2013, 10:17:48 PM
There's a female voice singing lead in "Be Here in the Morning" on the lines "It's been such a long day so you better hurry home" and the corresponding lines in the other verses. Marilyn? Diane? Or am I crazy and that's actually Brian sounding very feminine? I could swear I've read somewhere that that is a woman singing though.
Yeah, I think that's Al.

On another note about Be Here in the Morning, Papa Murry sings bass on the responding parts. I believe the story goes that mike was in India, thus, he wasn't there to sing his bass lines.
Something I've always wondered about that story: if Mike was away for the recording, then why was he given a writing credit on that song? Logically, wouldn't he have to have been at the recording to have had some lyrical imput?


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 06, 2013, 10:44:16 PM
Naw, songs are (usually!) written before they're recorded. ^_^


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: punkinhead on September 07, 2013, 04:27:33 AM
The Honeys on the single version of Be True To Your School
Billy H on My Solution (I think)
Audree Wilson on What is a Young girl made of
Marilyn on You're so Good to Me (I don't think this was mentioned yet)
Karen Lamn on Love Surrounds Me (I think!)
Terry Melcher, Diane, and Marilyn on the extended accapella ending to God Only Knows (rumored)


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 08, 2013, 09:28:15 AM
There's a female voice singing lead in "Be Here in the Morning" on the lines "It's been such a long day so you better hurry home" and the corresponding lines in the other verses. Marilyn? Diane? Or am I crazy and that's actually Brian sounding very feminine? I could swear I've read somewhere that that is a woman singing though.
That's Al, sped up.
I agree that Al's voice sounds somewhat "girley" but I doubt that it's sped up. Keep in mind that the tempo is rather slow & we hear Al's usual tone, only set in a very high falsetto. Nothing else.

If memory serves, there are no Beach Boys singing background vocals on 'Livin' With A Heartache'.

Yeah I just checked: Curt Becher, Terry Melcher and Jon Joyce. For years I thought I heard Bruce J. on bg vocals but I guess not.
Interesting info, I wasn't aware of it. Thought it's Bruce too. However, if that Curt Becher is Curt Boettcher, then I see why some people heard Bruce in the backgrounds. The 2 have similar voices, both being tender & kinda effeminate, if I may say so.


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Post by: zachrwolfe on September 08, 2013, 09:58:42 AM


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 08, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
I could be making this up but I'm pretty sure I read that it was sped up. I've also tried slowing down the song about a semitone and it sounded just like normal, non-girly Al.
Don't want to seem demanding, Zach, but I'd like it if you shared the link to the readable source. TIA.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: punkinhead on September 08, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
Isn't Al or Brian's voice at that point in the song recorded/sung through an amp? Or is that a different part?


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 08, 2013, 01:20:54 PM
There's a female voice singing lead in "Be Here in the Morning" on the lines "It's been such a long day so you better hurry home" and the corresponding lines in the other verses. Marilyn? Diane? Or am I crazy and that's actually Brian sounding very feminine? I could swear I've read somewhere that that is a woman singing though.
That's Al, sped up.
I agree that Al's voice sounds somewhat "girley" but I doubt that it's sped up. Keep in mind that the tempo is rather slow & we hear Al's usual tone, only set in a very high falsetto. Nothing else.

I could be making this up but I'm pretty sure I read that it was sped up. I've also tried slowing down the song about a semitone and it sounded just like normal, non-girly Al.

The source I've heard quoted is some dude name of Alan Charles Jardine. Someone asked him who it was and he said "me".  :-D


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Post by: zachrwolfe on September 08, 2013, 02:33:14 PM


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 09, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
2efloW hcaZ: from Mr. Doe's explanation, it seems like Al sang BHIM in his original voice, only extremely high-pitched. If there were used some effects, it's definitely not sth. concerning the speed. Otherwise, Al would reveal so.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: RONDEMON on September 09, 2013, 10:59:39 AM
It's not sped up. It's just just his normal voice in a higher register. It sounds so strange because it's probably the highest we've heard him sing.

Carl sings through a leslie cabinet in the second chorus of BHIM.


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: Paulos on September 09, 2013, 11:31:46 AM
It's not sped up. It's just just his normal voice in a higher register. It sounds so strange because it's probably the highest we've heard him sing.

Carl sings through a leslie cabinet in the second chorus of BHIM.

I know the real reason Al was able to sing so high, much like the part in Endless Harmony where Al pinches Brians nose so he can emulate Mike, someone had a good firm grip on Al's balls while he did his vocal take for Be Here In The Morning. The identity of the aforementioned ball-grabber seems to be lost to history..


Title: Re: Non-backing vocal parts of BB songs not sung by BBs
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 09, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Purty sure it's been said to have been sped up, and it really sounds like it to me. Lots of their stuff was sped up back then, see "How She Boogalooed It" on the album prior.


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Post by: zachrwolfe on September 09, 2013, 03:02:47 PM