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I thought of Dennis Wilson today and something does not add up.  Why did Dennis Drown?    He had a boat and a yacht so one day he decides to jump from a friends boat to get lost items he had dumped into the ocean then after lunch he goes back down in the ocean then drowns.  To me that does not add up!

The man had been drinking.   Perhaps you should look up the effects of alcohol in the body?  Maybe then it will add up?

Read "Dennis Wilson - The Real Beach Boy" by Jon Stebbins. Or "Dumb Angel - The Life and Music of Dennis Wilson" by Adam Webb. There are also other books on the Beach Boys that will give you answers to your questions.

Que Jon - are you shooting to get the "Real Beach Boy" update out this year or maybe next?

He had a lot to drink and apparently ended up banging his head on the boat on his way up. Adds up just well to me.

Accidental death happens.

Booze increases the odds especially when you are diving in the ocean.

Later this year is the plan. Thanks.

Christmas 1983, DW was in a bad, bad, bad place, literally bouncing off the bottom: no money, no home, no band, in real bad shape and self-medicating enough to kill five normal people. There are those, and I'm amongst them, who believe that down there on 12/28/83, he finally decided to let go. Maybe not consciously, but I think he did. The pain, physical and psychic, had to end somehow.

When it's out, get Jon's book.

What chokes me up every time I think of it is the description of how he was found curled up in the foetal position as if asleep peacefully. Very unlike most drownings. As if he realised what was happening and gave himself up to it.

That's the part that gets me, too. I find it so sad to think that by 1983 Dennis was a "lost cause". Did he really not believe in himself enough to attempt a serious rehab? What if extreme measures were taken, and he was taken to a psych ward and held involuntarily?

Had Dennis been fired "for good" by then? Or would he have been allowed to participate in the upcoming 1984 tour?

Read this, then listen to WIBNTLA. I challenge anyone not to get teary.

Hal Blaine was there at the marina that day and the new In Concert book mentions how he heard a report that Dennis hit his head on a concrete float. Of course Dennis could have just made a quick decision that he had no more fight left.

The reported body position - curled up on the marina floor - tends to argue against that: unconscious people don't curl themselves up. I think he just opted for some peace. God knows he deserved it.

I find it hard to think about.

Good point, it is an odd position.

Here's something else to consider - from childhood, Dennis had substantial sleeping problems: during his last night on Emerald Crystal McGovern reported that he tried to sleep but couldn't. Possibly... he just saw a way to get a good, long rest.

Wish I wasn't a complete atheist, as it'd be nice to think of Dennis looking down finally seeing his music getting the recognition it always deserved. Alas, this isn't the case. It's all just a very, very sad and tragic story. Still, we do have his incredible music...

I don't see a contradiction there. There could be souls even if there was no god.

I too wish Dennis would have been saved from destroying himself, foetal position or not.

True, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a particular deity. It does seem to have become the blanket term for people who don't believe in any supernatural forces.

I prefer the terms 'clued up', 'sensible' or 'non-idiot'.

The theory that he banged his head is tenuous at best. Yes he had contusions on his head, but he'd been in a horrible fist fight the day before...so he had contusions all over. No definite conclusion was reached regarding that head bump, its just a theory..as is hypothermia, as is loss of will to live. Take your pick. Drowning is the only official cause.

Ok, I'll rephrase my original post:

Wish I wasn't so clued-up, sensible and clever, as it'd be nice to think of Dennis looking down finally seeing his music getting the recognition it always deserved. Alas, this isn't the case. It's all just a very, very sad and tragic story. Still, we do have his incredible music...

At Brian's sound check here in Pittsburgh Al made the comment that Dennis was "with us here". I believe that was true. He was there with Carl watching their brother Brian and friends David and Al. Some believe in the after life and others don't. Believe what you will. It was a very sincere comment made by Al.

I still wonder why Carl or anyone else for that matter didn't step in to 'save' Dennis. They had to have known what was going on. How many times did they forgive him and take him back? Probably many times.  I know they couldn't force him to be institutionalized unless he was a threat to himself or others. Being addicted doesn't get you into rehab unless there is some sort of threat. I'm sure they loved Dennis but there was only so much they could do. I agree with Howard Jones: No one is to blame.

Those that know an addicted friend or family member know how hard it is in getting that person to stop. Sometimes being a good friend or brother isn't enough. It's a good start, though. I'm sure they were there for him. Then there is the 'tough love' approuch where you have to tell that preson 'no'. No more money if it's going to go for drugs and booze. Sad situation for all.

I still remember reading the Rolling Stone magazine review for Pacific Ocean Blue. Great review. I think thats how I found out about the album. Went out and bought it soon after. Still one of my favorites. Does anyone know if that review is available on line? Does anyone know the month and year from Rolling Stone magazine? It would be nice to read that again.

I'm glad the surviving Beach Boys all signed off on the release of Dennis's songs on MiC. Those songs alone make the set worth purchasing.

Surprised not to see anyone mention the BBC4 documentary we did on Dennis  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClBfaGPD0mI  I remain proud of the job we all did on it.

I have it recorded Ed. Fantastic documentary. I've watched it several times.  I judge a Beach Boys doc by how much a seasoned old pro like me learns from it, and there was a lot of new information and point of view on it. Great job Ed, thanks!

OT: I think you can be atheist or not believe in supernatural forces and still be an idiot. I know all of those designations can be applied to me, frequently. ::)

Hi, Ed! Fantastic documentary on Dennis!  It always brings a smile and a tear. Had to download it from the Japan YouTube site or someplace. I would glady purchase it here in U.S. Any chance for a DVD release?

David Marks did a great job as did everyone else who was interviewed. You all made Dennis proud I'm sure. As sad as the ending is I like to remember Dennis as living life to the fullest. He enjoyed himself for the most part don't you think?

I think 'Rainbows' is my favorite POB track. Happier times I think.

Dennis Wilson The Real Beach Boy is essential viewing for a Beach Boy fan. Well done! Let's get that DVD release!

I like to think that he passed out from the cold/booze. No suffering.

The pragmatic in me thinks that if he hadn't drowned that day, he only had months to live anyway. The guy must have had no liver left by the end.

Carl DID try to save him several times, and had a standing offer that the Beach Boys would pay for Dennis to go to any rehab center he wanted. And Carl was planning a post New Year's intervention. But you can't save someone if they don't want to be saved.

From my armchair analysis, the only way for Dennis to get sober and STAY sober was if he dealt with some sort of therapist and got through his issues with Murry (I think evertything else flowed from that).

I think Dennis could have been saves if he had done that, but I think at some point, like Mike's Beard alluded to, he would have needed a new liver.

 True, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a particular deity. It does seem to have become the blanket term for people who don't believe in any supernatural forces.

I prefer the terms 'clued up', 'sensible' or 'non-idiot'.
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It's one thing to proclaim oneself an atheist, but something else entirely to feel the need to insult those who don't share that view.  It's ironic (I'll refrain from using the term "funny") how so many "non-idiots" wind up calling out to that nonexistent deity just before they reach the end of their "clued up" existence.

It's ok to believe God. It's ok to be an atheist.

But being a douchebag is always wrong.  ;D

I've watched that. Great job!

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OT: we live, we die......... and in that order..... no more, no less...  :'(

so play as many Beach Boys songs you can squeeeeeeze into our small miniature lives......

a cork on the ocean, a leaf on a windy day, a rock in a landslide..... til' I die..

RickB

What a loss...not just to music, but to the world...but from everything I've read...Dennis was "gone" before he was gone.  It's tragic that he couldn't get the help he needed...but as was previously pointed out...it had to be Dennis who wanted the help.  We're left with some incredible music and a lot of stories (some funny, some sad).  He's become one of the immortals of rock.  I try not to think of him as he was near the end...but rather as how he was before that final, dark period...a guy full of life, bouncing off of the walls...brimming with creativity (and with a cute girl on his arm)!  Whether you believe in an afterlife or not...I think his shadow looms large over everything the band has done since his death...and that's a good thing.  Rest in peace, Dennis (and thank you for the music)!

Well said!

I usually do think of Dennis as healthy. I know the heavy drinking started in 1971, but it's 1974 before his voice change, and 1977 before you can see it. His creative peak lasted through early 1979 of course, but usually I got back to 1976 or before in my head.

If I was aware someone I admired had cancer, then I dreamt that they appeared to me  looking tired and worn out just prior to their death, I wouldn't attribute any supernatural meaning to it. For years I had a recurring dream Brian finished Smile. Does this mean I was predicting the future?

And anyway, why would Carl "astral project" to someone he didn't know?

Sorry Donny, but this makes no sense.

And that special connection and presence you felt at the concert, couldn't that just be the excitement and magnitude of the event, tied in with the fact they flashed up huge video screens of Carl and Dennis?

It's one thing to proclaim oneself an atheist, but something else entirely to feel the need to insult those who don't share that view.  It's ironic (I'll refrain from using the term "funny") how so many "non-idiots" wind up calling out to that nonexistent deity just before they reach the end of their "clued up" existence.
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Ah, that complete myth! Christopher Hitchens made a point of having someone he trusted and knew well present at his death just to make sure their couldn't possibly be any wishful claims by his religious detractors of some 'last-minute conversion'.

Besides, so what even if hundreds of atheists really did change their minds at the last minute - all that demonstrates is the human race's tendency towards delusion, nothing else. If every person on the planet decided they believed in Santa Claus tomorrow it wouldn't in any way alter the fact that Santa is a fictional character invented by humans. Belief does not equal fact.

You say they [atheists] "call out" to God/Jesus at the moment of their death... Well, personally speaking if I had a sudden horrific heart attack I imagine that yes, I would likely say "Christ..." (along with "sh*t" and "F**kin' hell!!")

What's far more striking is how many religious people absolutely sh*t themselves and do everything they can to be kept alive when the end draws near. Why? Why not embrace an eternity in heaven with open arms? Why the rush to hospital to try to be saved by SCIENCE?

Perhaps because the realisation that death is imminent also brings the realisation of "Oh sh*t, what if it's all just a load of crap??" Atheists however haven't convinced themselves of any afterlife and so generally react with more calm and dignity in death, as studies have shown.

I was working nights at a grocery store to put myself through college in 1998.  They played "God Only Knows" one night on the piped in music channel.  I took immediate notice as a BB fanatic.  It was only after I got home from work that cold February night that I heard Carl had passed away.  It was probably just a coincidence...but still kind of a "heavy" moment.

Well I won't.

If Jahweh / Allah / God is real, I'll call him out for being a nasty, jealous, narcissistic  misogynistic wanker with an obviously very cruel sense of humour.

Reminds me of  the 8th of December 1980. Every radio station I tuned to seemed to be playing a Imagine. I walked past a TV shop, and every TV had a picture of John Lennon on it.

Then, when I got home, I found out he'd been shot.

Spooky.

Yes, it's very sad indeed. Unfortunately, Dennis wasn't enough strong-willed to help himself & completely quit drinking. Re: drowning, even if he was under influence of alcohol, why not still try to survive & get out of the water? I don't understand it, I'd reckon people usually like & want to live as much as possible. What's an enjoyment about dying young? It ain't good.

Ooh, you just mentioned 8th December 1980 and that's the day I was born - it must MEAN SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It means you have a problem reading

I tend to agree with Mike Love's assessment that the guy had a death wish. The last couple of years of his life read like one big, long suicide attempt.

Typing, not reading. Post corrected. (Booking a September flight simultaneously - better that I get the dates confused on here rather than Jet2.com!)

Gotcha! 
In that case, it must mean that John's spirit passed into you.....

As a religious person myself I hate it when people who think they are rational, non-believers love to knock people who quietly practice their faith and don't look to bother or brainwash others.  Each to their own I say but respect others who might have a different point of view from your own.  Yet so many times I have to listen to people saying those who believe in God are brainwashed or idiots.  The irony is that the people who say it are vociferous in trying to convince others that their views are the only views one should hold.  And how anyone can claim that Atheists react to imminent death with more dignity than believers is beyond belief.  I've generally found that most people react similarly.  Is it not, after all, human nature for us to fear the unknown, or for our survival instincts to kick in, believer or not?  Maybe rather than fearing death some people don't want to leave their loved ones behind not because they suddenly think their is no life after death.

I really wish this stuff didn't need to be discussed on a Beach Boys post.

Funnily enough, I have got a sudden urge to take loads of heroin and beat my wife...

Apologies, I have nothing against people who keep it to themselves.

And you're right, I shouldn't be derailing the thread. Sorry everyone  :)

Thank you Stephen!  :). We're all here because of a common love of the music.  Now if only my box set had arrived like yours has I might be able to discuss that too!  Oh well I might need to wait until next week. >:(

Excellent post. Pretty much says it all. Back to the Beach Boys now, please...

Disagree.

I don't believe in any religion or superstition but at the same time I don't spend my time bashing people for having a religion/superstition. However if one wants to bash a religion one should not be hindered. No one has the right to not be offended. Sure, one might be a jerk for bothering doing it but that doesn't mean he/she has no right to be a jerk and bug others.

Religions and other superstitions cannot be proven or disproven but just because one cannot prove a religion doesn't mean that the opposite, that it is true, is the correct judgment to make.

Even though someone on this board says something provocative about religion I will defend their right to say it. Screw those who would silence them.

So uh.... yeah. Dennis, anyone?

Yeah, some good points but... I'm not trying to convince anyone that my point is the only one anyone should hold, merely clearly and calmly stating my side of the argument.

I think people are free to hold whatever beliefs they want, however if you are going to hold such beliefs then also people should be allowed to hold alternate beliefs and should be allowed to say they do without being told they'll be spending an eternity in hell or whatever... Keep it to yourself: ok fine. Try to force your beliefs on others: ok also fine - but expect to hear opposing points of view, and don't be offended to hear them.

Of course it is scary to face the unknown, but that exactly proves my point: it is unknown. There is only scientific fact and evidence to go on, which very strongly points towards evolution and to humans simply being another stage of evolution, whatever our somewhat bloated sense of self-importance might tell us otherwise.... When your brain stops functioning, you die. Same as wasps, gorillas and slugs.

Those who express that, say, gays or whoever aren't approved by 'God' are absolutely unjustified in stating such opinions, and yet they do anyway and with much certainty. If these people weren't so vocal and destructive I'd have no problem with religion at all, however they are very prominent and they cause much destruction throughout the world...

I'm not suggesting any posters on here hold such views, merely stating why I personally have issues with religion as a whole.

And also, you know, life is short, the world is an unbelievably beautiful place, we're all so, so lucky to be here (do you have any idea how many sperm didn't make it). So don't spend whatever time you have filling your head with fairy tales... Embrace nature and science and enjoy what little time you have!! This is it! No, really, it is! So have fun!! And listen to great music!

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No, it was just dreams. That's it.

You know how when you see a cat dreaming it's just a cat dreaming... Well, the same applies to us self-important humans.

Unless you're suggesting my cat Rory - when he's lying kicking his legs and so on - is actually experiencing astral projections and communications with others?  Because if he isn't, then why are you...?

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What's the one thing worse than a Mormon and an evangelical Christian?

An evangelical atheist.

Bad-um tishsssssssssss.

*crickets*

My naughty side came out to play earlier. But I know you all still love me.   :angel:

What the hell happened to this thread? This needs to go into the Sandbox.

Ok I for one will agree to drop the topic of religion as of now. Let's get back onto Dennis....

Does anyone know any more about Bill Oster, whose boat Dennis was on, or who else was with him that fateful day?  I don't think anyone has really spoken since then about it.  Also, I've tried tried to find out what happened to the "Harmony".  I always thought if I got rich I would have loved to have bought that and had it restored like Dennis was talking about doing before he died.  Can anyone shed any light on it's last know whereabouts?

The whereabouts of the harmony comes up now and then but we have never had a sighting or any info. One possibility is a name change. Not uncommon in boating.

Here's the thread the last time it was discussed:  http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9606.0.html

I hadn't looked at that page again but it looks like the Emerald has been restored.

http://www.challengesfoundation.org/History_K6WP.html

I know the boat makes a few here uncomfortable but I still think Dennis would be for it 100% and its being used for a worthy cause.

Hmmm.... Ya know, after all this time, I still don't really get the uncomfortable part. I get that he was on there his last day, but that has nothing ( in my mind) to do with that. It could have been anywhere/anytime around then. 

  I'll say it again, expanding n what I said then; Dennis isn't the slip, he's not the boat; he's not they man who left us that day. to me he's none of those.
Dennis is his music. While I'm sad he didn't go on, I'm happy that I can revel in the sounds he left us to cherish and enjoy

It seems to me that atheists have a problem with either {a} literal belief in religious mythology (esp. Judeo-Christian narratives as interpreted by the simple faith of unlettered proles), or {b} the irreligion of fanatical sectarian bigots, though many atheists are as intolerant, ignorant, and dogmatic as the people they criticize.

Indian philosophy, like that studied by Mike Love, makes a distinction between the impersonal Absolute Truth and the masks of God that allow for an imaginative personal relationship to an abstract ideal. In this way of inquiry, doubt and skepticism is encouraged, and belief is no substitute for Knowledge. Among the six schools of Hinduism, there is the path of logic, including inductive syllogisms and analogy, and also the path of reductionist empiricism, that is: a hypotheses tested against observations in the Natural world (which is the foundation of the modern scientific revolution in the West and Kepler's method).

Dennis Wilson sang on POB, "I know a carpenter who had a dream...killed the man, but you couldn't kill the dream...who said it was easy? PEOPLE GOTTA BE FREE." And, that's the goal of mature religion: FREEDOM.

Why don't we make a thread in the sandbox. I'll take you on down in a debate gladly  :)

Oh, yes, please.

Let's argue about religion!

That would be fresh and interesting.

Last rumored sighting was in the Pacific North West, circa 1985/86. Since then, nothing.

No debate. If you want to share in my perspective, then I am happy to converse as a doctorate of religions and as a Yogi, but I am not open to quarreling. Over and out.




"I am That/Thou are That/All This is That"

Tat Tvam Asi - "That Art Thou"
Chandogya Upanishad

Prabhuji, That is cool you are a yogi! 8)

A yogi bear most likely

RAWR!


 >:D

Funny that I guess this has never really been delved into, but Bill & Dennis probably never in a million years would have been friends had they not have been 'neighbors' in their boat slips...  (although, having said that, I'm sure there were a lot of people that felt the same way about Dennis & my friendship!)  Bill was a salt of the earth kind of guy, an R&D man for McCulloch Chain Saws.  He first met Dennis in the middle of the night, begging him to let him get a good night's sleep on The Emerald.  He took the next day off, and before long was going out on tour with both The Boys & Fleetwood.  His life was never the same after meeting Dennis; but I think most people that even spent a night on the road with Dennis can say the same thing...

Was Dennis always a hard drinker? I'm just wondered if there is a certain time that he became what could be considered an "alcoholic". Or was he always one, but it just never really became a serious problem until later in life?

1971 is a turning point once he hurt his hand. Late 1974-75 he cut back and even stopped briefly. 1977 is when I feel he really started showing the strain at some shows. By 1978 it was bad.

Of course, it's about Dennis but for me one human being deciding on whether or not God exists is like one of Richard Dawkins' skin cells concluding that the species Homo sapiens doesn't exist. We're a part of something very big, with whatever connotations that may have and there is little point being anything but openminded.  One of the worst things about the Church historically was intolerance - let's not allow the same preachy tone to issue from non-believers too. If it comforts some to believe, as long as they're not doing any harm, so what? Dawkins got married three times - what was the point of this? It's ritual and for those who talk about a contract, that can be done in a solicitor's office, and you can still have the party. The ritual is really a form of magic, isn't it? OK for those who believe in magic.

With Dennis also, the truth is that we simply don't know. He could have knocked his head, died of hypothermia or could have just decided he'd had enough. I hope whichever was easiest for him is the truth. Dennis' last days were awful but looking back, I realise that the signs were there long before those last days, and that is the worst of it. Had his problems been picked up at an earlier point, perhaps they could have been resolved. By the last weeks of his life it was already probably too late. Dennis died as he lived.  Few with Dennis' appetite for life make it to advanced old age. He enjoyed taking risks and never lived life in moderation. And it is very hard for me to imagine Dennis as an old man. I don't suppose for a second that this has anything to do with it, but Scott Bennett and the Dotted Line's song Pearls reminds me of Dennis. 'Watch the spinning blades of time shred the final days of your prime......... waiting for the tide or the bends, open your eyes, hold your breath, lean your body backwards, spread your arms, lie down on the ocean floor. Just because you can't sleep doesn't mean you can't dream...." .

A question I've always wondered that maybe those "in the know' like Ed or Stebbins can answer.....did Dennis ever recognize the deterioration of his voice from the early 70'S up? And if he did, did he attribute it to the drugs and drinking, and did that ever give him cause to try and clean up? He had such a great voice in the early 70'S....listening to MIC really reminds me of that, and then hearing some of the latter day tunes there.....just such a shame that his voice was silenced.

Drugs/drinking certainly took their toll; I tend to believe the throat punch(es) by the Love Slugs had more to do with it than anything else.

That coupled with the Dennis' impatience with letting the healing process do it's thing before he started using his voice again.

And those punches didn't lessen Dennis' need to medicate himself.

 Whether he was impatient, whether he was medicating himself, the great need for either  most likely disappears if the root cause never happens
 

Agreed. But what was the root cause in your opinion?

My Father was an alcoholic and literally killed himself with vodka. His root cause? None really. He started having drinks at lunch in the 70s and got addicted. Whether he had a genetic disposition for it, unknown. Depression maybe. As to Dennis, he over-consumed and got hooked. He had it all: looks, women, fame, money, musical genius.... 99.9% of us, with all that, are gonna live a very happy life.You can blame it on his Dad or whatever but the fact is he partied too hard, too much and paid the price.

 For Dennis, maybe, but I say the damge to his throat was an exacerbating detail that sent him over the edge. Without it, he has fun but never goes over the edge.

Hi Ed, thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.  It's always great to read your posts and gain more insight into the topics at hand.  It would also be cool to see a book with all your photos from through the years, along with little anecdotes to accompany them.  I've always enjoyed seeing and hearing your contributions to other author's work or the documentaries you have been part of, including the aforementioned BBC one.  One of my dreams came true when I managed to go to LA some years back and grab a few beers in Chez Jay's as well as the other touristy stuff.  Thanks again!

Yes he did talk about it with Steve Desper and Ed Roach. I have good quotes from both. Will have news on the book in two months.

His voice was deteriorating before then: the POB tracks recorded in 1975 display that. Used to have an article that stated it was a punch to the throat in a fight in the early 70s that began the problems. The beating Stan & Rocky gave him didn't help any, but it wasn't the root cause.

Punch happened in early 1974 and was completely different than the 1981 incident. The first time it was Steve Love who punched Dennis after an altercation.

Forgive my memory for a second. Was just reading back on Jon's post and he said Dennis got in a fight the day before he died? I don't have his book handy right now, but is that event in there? I don't remember anyone stating that before. Where/why/who did that happen on 12/27/83? Was it at Chez Jay's? Because he was with Bill Oster for most of those last two days, wasn't he?

This is the time period I was thinking of ( 1974)

Have a read of this from Steven Gaines. Pg C4. Mentions a fight with a boy friend of Shawns over the use of a phone Christmas night, and looked beaten up on the 27th. Not sure if it was the same fight but all pretty sad.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ezFkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yfkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2605,1314168&dq=steven+gaines+dennis+wilson&hl=en

That's right, it was two or three days before...when he was admitted to Marina Hospital on the 26th he was described as bleeding from his face, and bruised on his forehead with a black eye. So I'd think that when they found him on the 28th he'd still have some of that damage apparent.

And unfortunately for everyone, there could have been some undiscovered damage that only became apparent when he went underwater.

Thanks for the info from the Gaines book, Funky dude!

Yeah, he must have gotten a bad beating.  Makes you wonder if he'd had some residual damage from the fight.  That mixed with alcohol and a history of blackouts plus the reduced lung capacity from repeated dives in 12 feet of cold water.........not good.

Going from the little that I've read and heard, it seems like the 1981 Super Bowl Sunday might have been the "final nail in the coffin", so to speak. Dennis was well and truly in deep trouble by then(perhaps to the point of not being able to save himself), but after that 1981 beating I think he just thought "f*** it", and just did whatever he wanted to do until his body gave out. After that 1981 incident I think he well and truly gave up whatever fight he may have had left.

I have some photographs of Dennis taken many years ago at a concert (this was long before 1983 and when Dennis was still in good shape). There were signs of injuries then too - not necessarily a fight, of course but looked like it. I haven't seen them in the Press but that doesn't mean they weren't published anywhere. He was wearing dungarees but without a T shirt.

Dennis was gone from us WAY WAY too soon.  That's all I got.