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Given my anti-Mike sentiments in the past, it may suprise you to know that......

I really like this track. It's nice to hear Carl's voice, and (I presume) Brian pumping away at the piano. Not the most complex song they ever did, but not everything has to be a masterpiece.

Good idea creating a separate thread for this song.

I like it. it's fun. Nothing remarkable, but fun.

As I said in the other thread, to my ears the guitar fills sound more recently recorded and actually sound like the guitar work on Do It Again (2012). So I am inclined to guess that Scott Totten's recent session at Ocean Way may have been to this end.

I think a separate thread for "Goin' To The Beach" is a good idea. I had thought about opening one up myself.

I think it's quite an enjoyable track. Sure - the lyrics are redundant, the track is by-the-numbers and there's actually nothing really new there - but on the other hand it's catchy and (guilty-pleasurely) corny and it rocked my world when walking to the University today in alleged 37°C. And at the end of the day, that's the minimum of what a Beach Boys song should do. I like it.

So is the general consensus that the lead vocal is new?

I don't think the lead vocal is new. He sounds younger than on TWGMTR.

Lead vocal sound circa. 1979 to my ears.

Most of it is pretty bland, except for the bits pinched from "Heartache Tonight" by the Eagles.

Technically, wouldn't that be the other way around?  ;)

And yet, these are the songs Mike thinks will be hits due to "sticking to the formula"

I honestly don`t believe Mike is thinking Goin to the Beach will be a hit in 2013.

In 1979 he probably did since it was in that TV special.

If this is considered one of the lesser of the unreleased songs on the box then I'm starting to get very excited.

The one where he talked about it being dropped from the album you mean? :)

I don`t think it would have been a hit but it would have been a more commercial choice than Livin with a Heartache.

All of the biggest original hits that the group had from the 70s onwards are retro formula things. It`s OK, Almost Summer (if that counts), Getcha Back and Kokomo.

If Mike was so confident it was going to be a hit, why did it go unreleased for so long?

I say this without knowing any of the history of the song.

There is nothing retro formula about Kokomo. It paints a bleak portrait of life as it really exists today in our inner cities.

To tell you the truth I expected more from that song.

You could certainly in include rock n roll music and come go with me in that list

If you include the covers certainly and Wipeout and the medley (obviously) can be added to the list.

Can I ask anyone to please put to youtube or soundcloud?  :angel:

Why? :lol It was called "Goin' To The Beach" all along and it's a Mike song from 1979. ;) I, for my part, am pleasantly suprised.

And yes, that Mike lead vocal is definitely vintage.

Actually...Brian pumps away at the organ on this one! 

Heartache Tonight came out in 79.

The song's inoffensive fluff, like too much of their stuff from this period. What rankles with me is that we all know that there are better unreleased songs, but this particular one seems to turn up in interviews with Mike over the years like it's his fucking holy grail. I'd have rather had the early Big Sur (though I prefer the Holland version) as Mike's unreleased gem - or a live version of Country Pie if he wanted to showcase his then still decent rock'n'roll voice (and yeah, I know he didn't write it).

Tough, tough world.

Just heard it. Actually pretty good. Mike does sound really good on it - definitely a vintage vocal. Catchy. Didn't think I'd like it based on how M&B were doing it live. Pleasantly surprised.

You see, it was all a masterplan. He dropped the track so that 33 years later it could be used to promote a box set, cementing his vision of the band as a bunch of unartistic retrodinossaur squares.

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Is this the boxset version you're all referring too? Where is it available to hear?

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If you live in the US and purchased MiC thru Amazon it is a free download. The link is in the MiC thread.

Christ that was appalling! What a sh*t song. Yeah thanks for that Mike. What a classic!

I think you should quote random lines from it to people in your daily life so they can feel uplifted and vaguely greasy.

I'm actually digging this. Sure, it's a "bit" dopey and slight. But, is it really any more dopey and slight than something like Waves of Love (which I kind of dig as well)? As an appetizer for the box, I think it's done its job. So nice to hear unreleased, (mostly) vintage BBs music.


PS - I'll also concede that I'm probably cutting it some slack simply because it is previously unreleased. Still...nice to hear some "new" and vintage BBs music.

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I have no strong feelings about this either way.

This rendition of "Goin' to the Beach" is pretty much what one would expect after hearing the backing track, the demo and (especially) the recent live version.

The number is just up-tempo and hook-y enough to be mildly pleasurable and, as I said after hearing the live version, the song, while not earth-shatteringly good, by any means, does precisely what one would expect of a Beach Boys outtake from the late 1970's (and does it better, even, than some of the material chosen ahead of it for the KTSA album).  When seen through this light, there's not a darned thing wrong with it.  Could I have lived a full and happy life without ever having heard "Goin' to the Beach"?  Well, yeah, but I'm happy to say that now I won't have to.

I'm also glad to read that so many are enjoying the track.  Bring on Made in California!  :rock

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Posted some thoughts on the song my blog. On the plus side, it's mostly the original 1979 recording from what I can tell.

I'm curious, do we know the extent of Brian's involvement in both the writing and the recording of GttB?

The 1980 "Going Platinum" TV special that documents the making of the album actually shows quite a bit of the writing and recording of the song. Brian seemed to be relatively involved.

You know, I've heard a lot about that special, but other than a couple of short clips on YT, I've never seen it.  Anyone have an idea who played what on the backing tracks?*

*Just as an aside, I asked the same question about the "Good Timin'" backing track maybe six weeks ago (thinking it would be an easy thing to find out here), but I guess no one knows?

I have the Going Platinum special; interviews are ok, no Dennis though, and all of the performances are lip synched to the Keeping the Summer Alive tracks. Nothing astonishing.

The late '70s Beach Boys always sounded like a karaoke band instrumentally. With the kind of money being thrown at them, you'd think they could try a little harder.

I'm gonna call this song trash. Not because it's necessarily bad, but it's about as rudimentary of songwriting as you could do. There are a million bands that could write a clunker like this. In fact, the bands at those rock & roll "camps" Brian always makes a cameo at have probably churned out stronger material.

Seriously, what's there to like? "Oh wow, they're capable of playing generic chords in time! Listen to that bass hammer away repetitively on the root note! Someone was able to get three of their fingers to plod on the keyboard all at once! And Mike managed to write a pedestrian melody!"

But ... but ... it's "Goin to the Beach," don't you see?  It has the word "Beach" in it.  "Beach" as in where people go surfing and spend their summers.  And the "Beach Boys."  Beach, I tell you.  So if you don't like this track, or you think it's a bad idea to market the box set with "Goin' to the Beach," or if you think they should be promoting that "arty" stuff, you're denying the group's history.  Don't be a denier.

At least when Mike worked on the song with Brian, Brian jazzed it up a little with a more creative bass line. But Mike probably that it was too weird. People want fun, not crazy Brian bass lines!

Brian couldn't save GTTB. Wonder what kind of tooth and nail fight mYke luHv put up to have this included on MIC. Let's face it, MIC wasn't gonna see the light of day without this work of art included.

Why the smart-ass remark? Are you making fun of people who just may like it? If you don't like it, that is fine, but really, is it necessary to ridicule others? Promoting anything other than what the general potential buyer may know isn't going to help sell the box set. Many in here are deluded if they think promoting Smile era music or the later stuff will help sell units. The old stuff sells. We have seen that for years. So far, Capitol has gotten it right. Also, I don't see this song any differently than I do any song from the KTSA time frame.

Yes, the old stuff sells. But "Goin' To The Beach" isn't the old stuff. It's part of Mike's late '70s/early '80s oeuvre that was a cynical, strained grab for the past that failed critically and popularly. OK, so Mike got it right once with "Kokomo". That doesn't redeem KTSA.

Huh? I don't get the KTSA-Kokomo relationship. Goin' To The Beach is styled after the old stuff, Kokomo was not. I absolutely agree with your remarks pertaining the late 70s, early 80s, but I think fans of the older stuff will gravitate more toward this than other late stuff. What I don't get is why because you don't like it that everyone should not like it?

I meant that he got the whole grabbing for the past thing right with "Kokomo", living up to the earlier fun in the sun image in a way that felt natural.  And it's the success of "Kokomo" that surely has motivated decisions like this, using the song "Goin' To The Beach" to promote a new box.

And I'm not saying everyone should hate this "new" song. I just wanted to voice my own displeasure with it. You can like it.

Here comes some more "woot abuse"- :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot

I agree with Murry. The harder Mike tried to recapture the surf sound, the less it sounded like the early material. Songs like "goin to the beach" just don't have any heart.

If Goin to the Beach hadn`t been included then those two songs still presumably wouldn`t have made the cut. There are no live songs from 76 to 92 (odd for a career retrospective) and lord knows why Big Sur didn`t make the set.

Right, SMILE Brian. A song like "Surfin' USA" has real excitement in its arrangement. Dennis pounds the drums, the bass line walks on out of the root, and there are two interlocking guitar parts! Why Mike seemingly failed to understand the importance of that aspect of formula mystifies me. But Brian is to blame for that, as well. He was seemingly content to plod on the piano in the late '70s/early '80s most of the time. "Da Doo Ron Ron" (soon to be on the box!) is a perfect example of robot Brian. I could recreate the BBs arrangement of "Da Doo Ron Ron" in Fruity Loops/FL Studio on my computer in 10 minutes.

Going to the Beach is so lame I can think of nothing else to add...

What smart-ass remark?  I was merely trying to characterize the now-prevailing attitude on this board.  Sure, there are a few dissenters, but to many, MIU is the new Pet Sounds, Pitter Patter is the new Good Vibrations, Mike is the new Brian and basic is the new complex.  Eventually, keepinthesummeralive.net will be the new smileysmile.net.

Count me in as a "few dissenter"

Well, I'm calling it now.

July 23, 2013. 6:28:29.
The most ridiculous thing ever said on this board.

Except it`s just not true is it. There are plenty of people knocking Goin to the Beach and nobody has a problem with that. Even more people dislike MIU. If some people hold differing opinions to you then why does that threaten you? I don`t get it.

And there seems to be some myth that if anybody says one good word about something that Mike has done that they are in some way belittling Brian. It`s BS. I have yet to hear anybody say, `Goin to the Beach is the most exciting rarity to be included on the box` after all. Surely fans of the Beach Boys should be allowed to praise all members at times.

Not by a country mile-go back a few years and read posts from then till now and you'll find plenty of ridiculous things that have been said-and yes, by me, too. ;)

I found this Demo of Goin to the Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8er-kxIPhA

I am not getting into this Brian vs Mike thing again. Every freakin' thread degenerates into this. I guess like a few others have done, I am out of here until the box set is released. You guys are driving people away with this crap. Enjoy!

Nope, this still is:

One of the shittiest attitudes toward an artform I've ever seen. Why are you here and not on some math rock forum?


Aaaaand one of the most absurd posts I've seen around these parts. You and Ron should hook up, you can be extremely, irrationally hyperbolic and condescending to one another all the live long day.

Sorry guys, but jeez.

This Ron sounds like a good guy, at least if he objects to the canonization of MIU and other cr*p that has nothing to do with what made the band great (or even good).

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I don't know if I've ever seen anyone praise MIU Album. Not even Mike Love mere moments after hearing the fnal mix when I ambushed him in the alley behind the studio. He said "A few songs were okay, I guess, and Brian sounds nice, but jeezus. This album is an embarrassment to my life. It should self-destruct. It has f***ed up my karma forever."

So yeah, I'm not really following you here. ;(

I think you need a rest.

What on earth does MIU have to do with this thread?

I`m sure Mike Love would be amused that you spend so much time and energy thinking about him though. :)

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That thread was called unpopular opinions for a reason.

Maybe he should have sidestepped it if he knew it was going to raise his blood pressure.

Not even Al Jardine or Ron Altbach think MIU is great. There were better tracks floating around in late '77 that went either to Celebration or to the vaults (some Christmas, Adult Child and Bambu). It's a misstep, but what's the use in always summing it up with "It should self-destruct.. I hope that the karma will f*** up Mike Love’s meditation forever"? We might as well say that Pet Sounds is "the best album ever made" and be done with it.

I'd rather listen to MIU than to That Lucky Old Sun.

i don't think MIU is ALL that bad!  says I who doesn't mind 'Summer in Paradise'....

the worst album in terms on contruction to me, would be 'still cruisin'..... now what is that??

its a 'best of' meets 'The Beach Boys' with a song from 'Brian' and 'Al' or whoever has something to contribute.......

they had enough stuff floating around to make a current album of the time..... r n r to the rescue, California dreamin,

even the live 'runaway' would have been better....

the only one i'd grant them as being a valid inclusion in terms of hits, would be 'BB medley'......and even that's borderline....

back on topic.... anyone gonna soundcloud or youtube 'GTTB'??

Thanks, RickB

'Goin to the Beach' is alright ... I like the song but the production is a little bland, it's a little too "rockin'", the mix a bit too modern and on and on and on ...

   but it's the Beach Boys and it really sounds like the Beach Boys. As does MIU ... and they're both better than anything that came since, except the Paley stuff and 'Male Ego'.

(IN MY OPINION)

hooray for new (old) Beach Boys music! we're about to get the last motherload boys !!!

Mike's a singer and doesn't pay much attention to that kinda stuff. His interest is in communicating a message to people.

Brian doesn't seem to have shown much interest in producing a recording since 1969, so cut him some slack.

after listening to it after the first 3 listens..... I think it's bloody catchy!!

I really dig it!   maybe it could get annoying after a while, not sure, time will tell.....

it sounds like its a recent vocal take to me.... but it sounds 'modified' to sound 'edgy' or 'rocky'.....

would be keen to know the production behind this and what they used and re-recorded...

Good Work BB's!!

RickB

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You really see everything in black and white, don't you Jeff? "If you're not with me 100%, like only 99%, you're against me 100%" or what? Is it really so unbearable and unimaginable to you that people have opinions differing from yours? That's a pretty extremist point of view and that is never a good thing.

For your info, I enjoy MIU way more than Love You - all I have to do is skip half of the tracks on MIU. Pitter Patter is great, in spite of the lame chord progression in the chorus. Pet Sounds though is way better than either of those two albums. (D'oh!)

Can't wait to hear "Goin' To The Beach" - I'm sure it is up to par with "It's Trying To Say"! ;D

well i like the live version ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk )

Cant wait till i hear the studio version with all the BB's on it. That may even sound better.

Thanks to Mike we can hear the song already before the MIC is released.

This is off course my opinion  :p

The song is catchy and certainly a lot better than some of the songs on KTSA, but it's still mediocre.

Maybe maybe Big Sur will be a hidden track. Maybe. Maybe not.

My pre order number won't go through. I guess I can wait.

Somehow I'm really curious to hear it, as apparently it is a summertime classic. ;D

Does it have any bits of interesting instrumentation (synth, percussion, detuned piano, you name it)?

Just going by that KTSA program, and the recent performances from Mike and Bruce, it seems like a pretty decent song. It's got those cool Some Of Your Love sounding chords in the chorus.

don't hold your breath!

Its really NOT interesting or cool. It's a horrible hack song with zero soul. The saxes are the tiniest bit okay-ish. It sounds like a crappy 70's movie song, or like a joke song from Top Secret, but not as good.

Fantastic!  Wish I could hear it!

Me Too STE!

Which 1975-1992 Mike Love song are we talking about? ;D

Would like to hear ir aswell!!

Was able to hear it. Looses a lot of the fun Brian and Mike had with it around the piano. Brian should have sang the low parts harmonically. Not bad, but not one I would pick over other earlier material.

i think this will be a song that the fans will like or not.

I must say i like it a lot.

Whether you like it or not, to me it does sound a like a Beach Boys version of "The Rutles" took a stab at it.  :lol

Him write English good.

I think that will go down in the annals of interwebs history as the greatest thing ever posted on this board.

The "Bring Back Barry!" campaign starts here people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezurnMDfIo

Man, this song is stuck in my head..  Catchy as hell.  If this came out in 1963, so many here wouldn't have such a problem with it.
Narf.

Also sprach Mikethustra!

I think even a '79-Mike could've come up with better stuff than this (remember his great "I don't wanna know" from around the same time?). The chorus is cool, Mike's singing much better than usual for this time, the verses are sick and are at least as unfitting as the "It's a beautiful day"-part in "Beaches in mind".

Ein HeldenLoven to the Beach

Pretty much rips off two songs, Heartache Tonight and Runaround Sue. Boring, repetitive. Lyrics could have been written by a 15 year old. Goin to the beach to meet my girl? On the plus, production sounds good and the song sounds loads better than the recent live version.

And it was in the vaults so good it's out and some people are enjoying it. Personally, I am tempted to make an analogy to a bowel movement.

 :thumbsup Thank you for posting that!  I agree, catchy as all get out.

You're absolutely right. I already put it on a comp - right after "Drivin" and "Desert Drive"...

You guys keep forgetting that "Heartache Tonight" (aka "Hooortay Tuh-nyght") is a horrible song by a horrible band.

Thanks to a few nice folks I was able to hear this now. I like it OK but I think Brian should have sung the co-lead like he did when they were writing it on the film. Better than Sunshine, WGGT, Endless Harmony, Oh Darlin, and School Days. That said it isn't great. "I Don't Want To Know" and "Too Cruel" are much better Mike songs of the period, but non Beach Boys.

Ah, that hook sounded familiar but I just couldn't put my finger on it. Good work, Brains  8)

Wish I could take credit but another poster on a M/B thread pointed it out first.

Interesting Mike came up with the song the same year the Eagles had a hit with Heartache. Another case of "My Sweet Lord" oopsy..

Thusly, GTTB is crap?

Catchy tune. Better than some of the other songs on KTTA

I stand to be corrected because I haven't seen the credits for "Goin' To The Beach", but I thought Brian wrote most of the music/arrangements and Mike wrote the lyrics? Isn't that how they collaborated on Keepin' The Summer Alive?

It is catchy and it's got decent production and it's the Beach Boys. But Mike's lyrics contain no word play in them at all as usual. Imagine if Mike wrote The Hollies song Bus Stop. See I think this is where the difference is.. Lyrics can be simple but the still need to be mildly stimulating..

"Goin' To The Beach" is thought to be a Mike song with a bit of assistance from Brian.


It's better than "Hawtay Tuh-nyght".

I haven't heard that song in years, thank God, but are they really that similar? I'm sincerely asking. Or is it another case of "One person on a messageboard said it and then everyone else started saying it even though it's barely true/not true at all"?

Well, I think we can safely say Mike made the melody for the main part that sounds like "Heartbreak Tonight". He says something like "I'm walking from the beach one day and I though, 'goin' to the beach, goin' to the beach, God, it's so direct ya know?"

So yeah, we can blame Mike for that I'm pretty sure.

The only way to objectively rate new music by a band you love without fantarding is to take a step back and say, "If this were a song from a band I'd never listened to before, would I like it?"

And when asking that question, your answer for "Goin' To The Beach" would surely be "no, it's a complete piece of sh*t"

Another great hook from Dr. Love!

"Round round, get around, I get around..."

"Good night my baby, sleep tight my baby..."

"I'm pickin' up good vibrations..."

"Aruba, Jamaica, ooo I wanna take ya, Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama..."

"Goin' to the beach, goin' to the beach with my baby..."


What if they release "Goin' To The Beach" as a single - and it's a hit. And Mike wrote it! Not Brian. :o

Then David Leaf will finally take human form and be a real boy again, averting the apocalypse. We're sure to sell a million units in January.

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Personally I do think the hook is actually quite good. I know I said it before but I think sometime in the late 70s/early 80s the group should've released an album of somewhat dumb but catchy repetitive singalong tunes such as this one, "Mike Come Back to L.A.", "Calendar Girl", and so on. Of course they would've needed the Moog in order to fully realize that vision. It would have become a huge cult favorite I'm sure.

Thanks for enlightening us on how to listen to music and then making assumptions.

This statement doesn't hold up for me because ... while it's nowhere near their best work, this track contains a bit of that Beach Boys magic (just a little of course) ... which is presumably why some of us like the group I would think.

And do we know for sure it's a 100% Mike song? Sounds like some BW changes in there ... I could be wrong, but I kind of assumed it's like 'Let the Wind Blow' or something based on the video. Brian was clearly involved with the arrangement, and I assumed some of those chord changes in there (the way the bassline moves up during the 'staying out partying all night long' bit seems like a typical BW move).

The tune itself actually reminds me of 'Surfin'.

Goin To The Beach is a good hook. But that's the whole song. It was never developed beyond the melody.

Can`t disagree with this at all. The song could also do with a stronger production but the same could be said for all of KTSA.

I would also place this song above Da Doo Ron Ron (or at least the version I`ve heard).

Starbaby and How`s About a Little Bit were apparently attempted during these sessions so would be interesting to hear how they turned out.

Just listened to Heartache Tonight and the GTTB verses seem, to me, to be a straight lift from the middle HT chorus. The Glen Frey part 1:41 of the song. It's no wonder people are finding it catchy...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=db542C4id5A&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ddb542C4id5A

The change at GTTB at 36 secs sounds like a slowed down Ruanaround Sue lift. Think Mike did a "He's so Fine" Harisong.

3 note melody over a swing beat = BIGTIME PIGTIME ripoff. Time to call up some of your disgusting lawyer friends, Don Henley.

Ha, Henley is too busy getting sued by Don Felder.

"That son of a bitch stole my name. The fanbase is so confused. Something needs to be done about this."

Though GTTB is not a very good song and there is a similarity to this Eagles song, I still prefer GTTB over this Heartache thing. Mike's lead is IMHO better than most of his leads in that era. The verses of GTTB aren't good, the saxophone is annoying and the guitars not prominent enough in the mix. The refrain is catchy, I was singing it to myself a lot yesterday :).

I like GTTB better than Kokomo, but it would have been a mediocre effort on MIU or KTSA.

I actually like Kokomo.  Mike's lyrics are clever and Carl nails it.

The point, surely, is that it's not from 1963. What was Mike writing lyrics to in 1963 that would've knocked this on its ass? Hawaii? Our Car Club? Even Be True To Your School?
It's not awful; it would have fit on KTSA (which is, I know damning it with faint praise); the overall sound is good; his voice is as it often was during that period, thin and reedy at times. Makes Waves of Love seem like Good Vibrations, however.

I agree with those who said the chorus should have had a dual Mike/Brian lead like it is in the YouTube video of them working out the song. And they have included Brian's left piano bass lines, but the backing track had probably already been recorded when they were working out the harmonies captured in the video.

Lots of people like it. You're in good company. :)

Great song. I've been playing it over and over, and I'm loving it more and more. The music rocks surprisingly hard, Mike's vocals have some serious punch (especially considering the era) and lyrics are upbeat and fun. Makes me wanna go to the beach, over and over again. 9/10!

Yes, because it would've been too much work for the BBs to scrap that original, meticulously recorded take.

Well, even though the song may not sound all that spectacular, according to the website of a certain banned forum member they worked on the backingtrack for two days and recorded the vocals during another day.

I doubt that would have entered their heads at that point. Look at what they went through over Sunshine. Bruce has talked about taking what Brian had done and looping and all all the rest which resulted in a godawful song. Why they didn`t just start it from scratch is a mystery.

Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my baby,
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I may stay out partyin' all night long,
But I'll be up just as soon as it's dawn,
'cause I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl

Early in the morning I'll be headin' out the door,
To where the waves are splashin' as they dance along the shore,
And after havin' caught a few lyin' in the sand,
We'll listen to the radio blast a rockin' band

Y'know I'm Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my baby,
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Where the sun is mellow and the waves are hot,
I'll be hangin' out, it gets me high [?]
'a just Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl

[Sax Solo clearly played by Mike Love]

Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my baby,
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
We might drive along the coast line, walk along the sand,
Strollin' in the moonlight with my baby at hand,
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl

The song is even 'better' when you're face to face with the 'lyrics'. :lol

You know, this song alone has convinced me that Mike is a pop genius on his own right, not just a very talented but lazy wordsmith who happened to be Brian Wilson's cousin.

Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl
Well I'll be Goin' to the beach, Goin' to the beach with my Girl

 ;D

Let's see-that comes to one hook every 10 years if my calculator's batteries are doing the job-and seeing that the last two suck, then we're down to one for every 16 years. A lame performance in all of hookdom if I ever saw one. :p

Plus, it's not even clear how much of "Kokomo" Mike actually wrote. It might have been only a couple of lines and not even the "Aruba, Jamaica.." part.

Okay maybe I wrote out the lyrics so I could slaughter it. If you don't know these by now I ain't gonna explain

Goin' To The Beach (Freddie): http://soundcloud.com/moar-freddie/goin-to-the-beach-freddie (http://soundcloud.com/moar-freddie/goin-to-the-beach-freddie)

However, that taught me how simple the song it. a second verse rather than the solo would have been preferable.

Exactamundo, a great hook that should be glorified among the best of them! And hey, if the melody has been snatched from the Eagles, who cares? (SUSA, anyone?) Mike made it immeasurably better. Shoot them Eagles down, we're going to the beach here!

Dawn?

That makes more sense, thanks!

How a thread for a song like this has six pages is kind of baffling. To me, it's exemplary of "forgettable".

I think it's just because it's something new, simple as that.  They could have released a newly discovered 1976 recording of Brian instructing Dennis how to properly fart into a microphone and there'd be at least 7 pages worth of people praising its brilliance, intentional misspellings of Mike's name and people bitching about how the C50 tour ended.

For a track of Dennis farting there would be a thread of ~1.000 pages before sundown. I'd be contributing merrily, as well. :)

Some would insist they were overdubbed. Desper would set us straight with a recollection of flatulent tape loops. Someone else would then mention that the M&B 2004-5 UK setlists had "quite a lot of deep cuts."

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So true it's not even funny anymore, except it is.

That's an awesome idea! I like it a lot! Kind of a Party! Album for the late 70s, 75% covers/25% originals:

Calendar Girl
Our Team
How's about a Liittle bit of your sweet lovin
Country Pie
Shortenin Bread
Here Comes the Night (sing-a-long edition)
Sunshine
Da Do Run Run
Surfer Suzie
School Days
Little Girl
Smokey Joes Cafe
Mike Come Back to LA
Goin to the Beach

Nicely put.   Also, the music of bus stop had chorus and verse, and some instrumental variety.  Both lacking on this GTTB thing.

I prefer and find more catchy the hook to 'Mike Come Back to LA'.

Should have done that for the boxed set. :3d

This is actually pretty good... needs to be developed more but the chorus is catchy.

Brian or Carl should have done the "early in the morning..." verse since that part seems like it's out of Mike's comfortable range.

Wow, the missing centerpiece of Smile. Brilliant!

Hell, who am I kidding, I would be too.

Goddamnit, every day I wake up singing this song.

I keep humming it too.

Damn you Mike!

I really like the drumming on this song, really punchy and energetic, loads of cool little things going on.

Well tomorrow I'm going to the beach.
Guess what song will be in my head all day...

I bet Mike thought it was going straight to number 1..

He probably still does

"Goin' To The Beach" is exactly what I expected it to be: a fun good-time song by Mike.  It's nothing revolutionary, but it ain't bad.  I'm surprised it never surfaced on any of the late 70's/early 80's albums. 

the love/wilson team do it again. mike knocked it out of the park; he hasn't written a song this catchy since good vibrations

"Goin' To Th eBeach" is written solely by Mike Love. It's from the "Keepin' The Summer Alive" sessions.

Yeah Good Vibrations is still the best song Mike ever wrote, without outside help.

no one else assisted in arranging the song? mike should give brian co-writing credit. he's shown as a collaborator in the demo video.

In ten years Brian will decide that he has been wronged and will sue Mike for due credit for chord changes made during the recording of the song. Brian will try to settle out of court, but Mike's lawyers convinced him Brian has no case. Brian receives millions, but at first only sought a pat a the back and a "Well done" from Mike. All reunite for a late 60 year reunion tour.

Brian was playing piano in a video, he clearly wrote the song.

Also, Mike said in the video that he was on his way home and started ad-libbing "Goin' to the beach, goin' to the beach", so he clearly wrote the song.

huh? What does Brian playing it have to do with writing it?

That's the joke

Brian added some of the music...I think that means co-writing.  Songs are more than just lyrics. 

Well, I actually went to the beach with my baby this weekend.  I told her about the song on the drive over (as we listened to classic BBs, obvs), how it's kinda awful but also kinda good and catchy, then I couldn't help but sing it a little bit, then I played it on my iPhone, then I started singing other things in the same melody, and by the end of the day we both couldn't shake Goin' to the Beach.

Thanks a lot Mike.

I think Brian's already been to court over this one, to ensure he DOESN'T get any credit …  :lol

I finally realized what this sounds like, it sounds like an outtake from Mike Love's Celebration album!

I'm guessing Mr. Beard may have seen the actual liner notes, so it may be solely credited to Love. It is funny though, because it is indeed one of relative few BB songs where we have what is presumably actual film footage of the composition/recording of it, and Brian certainly seems to be contributing more than just playing piano. He is seen working out the arrangement of the song. Whether "arranging" a song heavily is actual "writing" is a debate that has been brewing for a loooong time of course in the music industry.

That film does seem to illustrate the limits of Mike (or anybody) being able to "write" a song on his own when he doesn't play an instrument. Some would argue that such a thing is virtually impossible, unless you Bobby McFerrin it out and vocalize everything (I recall reading supposedly Michael Jackson did something along those lines in writing some of his songs?). Having a group where everybody else plays instruments of course afforded Mike easy opportunity to get help, whether it constituted writing credit or not.

Well, we have someone on the board who writes songs without playing any instruments. And that's Swedish Frog, the only instrument he can play is clarinet.

What he does is come up with a melody, and then write lyrics that fit into it. Then, he hands it off to a collaborator who makes the arrangements and plays the instruments.

I've often told people, playing an instrument isn't really required for writing a song.

Writing is about creativity, and the ability to hear music in your head at a basic level.

Playing is about practice and or training.

Mike could totally write his own songs, alone.

Yeah, you can tell. ::)

who is that? another frog? or panda? dinosaur? duckling?

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Sometimes a panda, sometimes a unicorn, but never a frog, as far as I'm told. Brian however relied heavily on a frog when arranging Love You reportedly.

Lick lick

As I mentioned, it’s all very debatable, and also depends on the circumstances. Personally, I don’t feel that it is writing a complete song to come up with a single line melody, put lyrics to it, and then give it to someone else to compose the chords underneath that melody and lyrics. If that underlying series of chords is not part of the writing process, then I could take all the “Pet Sounds” backing tracks, write new lyrics with a different melody, and then claim 100% writing credit.

Yes, the melody helps to steer the chords in most cases. It’s a very collaborative process. But being able to play an instrument very much informs the actual writing process.

It’s complicated, and has been hashed out in court cases over the years regarding writing credits. There are even more extreme cases, like the “Whiter Shade of Pale” case from the last several years, where an even smaller contribution, one keyboard riff driving the song, was brought in years later as enough of a contribution to get credit despite two others having written all the lyrics, the melody behind those lyrics, and the underlying chords.

But if I was in a band and someone brought me a melody with lyrics and had me “arrange” the song by composing all of the chords, then I’d be pissed if I didn’t receive some sort of share of the songwriting credit.

Also, there is the case of Joe Knot being given credit on Add Some Music To Your Day, where he claims that he added very little to song, yet Brian chose to include him as a writer. It sounds like it can be a very subjective thing or very concrete where there is a contract like with Lennon/McCartney.

Back in the '80s, a friend of mine who owned a studio called me up, told me about a girl who wanted to record three songs that she had written, and he asked if I wanted to play guitar on them.  I told him that I would, so a meeting was arranged between him and the songwriter and I.  When we got together, she handed me three sheets of paper with lyrics printed on them.  The lyrics weren't very good, but it was a gig, so I asked her about chord changes, melodies, etc., and she had no clue.  She took the first piece of paper and said, "This one is like Pat Benatar, you know?" 

Long story short...she was pretty weird, quite the 'space case', if you know what I mean.  I ended up writing the chord structures and the melodies, arranging the instruments, and teaching her the melodies (which she never did get right), as well as playing all of the instruments except for the drums.  I did get paid, but let me tell you, she got a deal. 

Now, who wrote those songs?

It's me. :)

I'm still not posting, but ...

If you watch the section of the special about GTTB, Mike explicitly says he played the song to the guys on the guitar. So he likely did come up with some sort of chord progression. I always interpreted his work with Brian as an attempt to flesh out a vocal arrangement, not necessarily re-composing the tune.

I like this, a lot. Both sentences. :)

No, that's a toad. :-D

Yeah, but was she hot?

What does Scott Totten think about the song?

he messaged me on facebook a few days ago and said, verbatim, "lol hve u herd goin to the besch what a flaming pile of shit. total SHIT. SHIT FROM A DOG'S ASS, RUNNERZ"

Not quite...Mike says, quote: "..I played it for Carl, he did a demo on the guitar...".  So when Mike "played it for Carl", he could have meant on a piano, on a guitar, on a kazoo, on his knees with a pair of spoons...but to your point, he didn't just say he "sang" it for Carl, so yes...Mike probably played it in rudimentary fashion on either piano or guitar, after which Carl did a proper arrangement on the guitar and demoed it as such, for presentation to the other guys.  After which Brian worked up the background vocal arrangement on the piano with Mike, as seen in the documentary a short time later.

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According to this article:
http://somethingelsereviews.com/2013/08/10/i-thought-it-was-a-great-song-mike-love-on-the-newly-released-beach-boys-track-goin-to-the-beach/

Carl and Randy Bachman are the authors of this song.


Edit: I have misread it; Mike Love did indeed write this song.

This is weird, doesn't feel like a Carl song at all, to me anyway. Both KTSA and especially Heartache are much better than this.

Man, Carl didn't write "Goin' To The Beach." :'(