Title: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: BeHereInTheMorning on June 28, 2013, 11:51:05 AM Long time lurker, first time poster here.
I'm wondering if anybody on this board knows when Brian Wilson procured the Rock-Si-Chord. I swear that I'm hearing it adding subtle accents here and there on Friends (on the title track and "Passing By", for example). Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on June 28, 2013, 12:20:46 PM That seems to be an accurate assessment. It's not on Wild Honey, but does seem to be on Friends quite a bit. Busy Doin' Nothing is another track that seems to feature it.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Dunderhead on June 28, 2013, 12:24:05 PM I'm pretty sure its on the title track, did it have a a clavinet sort of setting? I think it's on the early version where strings are playing the vocal parts that I always hear something like that somewhere in the mix.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: pixletwin on June 28, 2013, 12:39:01 PM Forgive my ignorance but what is a Rock-Si-Chord?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: BeHereInTheMorning on June 28, 2013, 12:42:01 PM Forgive my ignorance but what is a Rock-Si-Chord? A keyboard designed to simulate a harpsichord for rock and roll (hence the name). Brian put it to great use on "Add Some Music to Your Day". I swear that I hear it here and there while listening to Friends. Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: BeHereInTheMorning on June 28, 2013, 12:42:50 PM That seems to be an accurate assessment. It's not on Wild Honey, but does seem to be on Friends quite a bit. Busy Doin' Nothing is another track that seems to feature it. It was introduced in 1967, presumably Brian (or somebody) got a hold of one by early '68. If that's what I'm hearing.It's on "Diamond Head" as well (under the pedal steel). I'm pretty sure its on the title track, did it have a a clavinet sort of setting? I think it's on the early version where strings are playing the vocal parts that I always hear something like that somewhere in the mix. It definitely had a clavinet setting. Brian used that for "Add Some Music to Your Day". Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: pixletwin on June 28, 2013, 12:56:24 PM Forgive my ignorance but what is a Rock-Si-Chord? A keyboard designed to simulate a harpsichord for rock and roll (hence the name). Brian put it to great use on "Add Some Music to Your Day". I swear that I hear it here and there while listening to Friends. Thank you. I have a degree in music and I assumed it was some kind of chord construction I had never heard about. :lol :lol :lol Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Mitchell on June 28, 2013, 01:31:53 PM Was the Baldwin used for the Smiley Smile Wind Chimes tag? (and that pretty little instrumental on SOT 18)
Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on June 28, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: DonnyL on June 28, 2013, 02:02:00 PM Early '68. I don't think the version I believe the boys had (model 200A) was released until then. I have one and have used it extensively in my own recordings. The best way I could describe the sound is it's like a 'combo organ harpsichord', though creative use of the Lute setting can get you into a thing that can almost sound like an upright piano.
It doesn't have a 'Clavinet' setting specifically, but you can get into the ballpark. The 200A has 4' and 8' stops, the sounds are Harpsichord, Lute, Cembalo, and two different 'Elec. Guitar' selections. You can select any number of these combinations, along with a couple of 'accenter' options to modify the decay. The Rocksichord has no touch sensitivity and has a high-quality sound that works well in dense mixes. I'd bet it's all over the place on BB records ... 'We're Together Again' (the chimey sounds toward the end) is the most prominent to my ears. ... and yeh, 'Friends' and 'Passing By' sound just like a Roxi on those little riffs going through. '68-'71 seems to be when they used it for the most part ... though I believe they also had a Clavinet and of course the Baldwin Electric Harpsichord for a period as well. Brian played the Rocksichord at the Whisky gigs in '70. (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/404809_2897899816389_2020514421_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/46229_10201005608652220_1049517105_n.jpg) Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Mitchell on June 28, 2013, 03:38:00 PM Was the Baldwin used for the Smiley Smile Wind Chimes tag? (and that pretty little instrumental on SOT 18) I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that's a real harpsichord.Possibly... I guess it would be the same as the H&V "boys and girls" bit... But did Brian have a harpsichord in the makeshift home studio? Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on June 28, 2013, 03:43:58 PM
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Mr. Wilson on June 28, 2013, 03:50:19 PM Thank you to DonnyL for the info.!
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 28, 2013, 04:43:51 PM Always good info in threads like this. :)
For an A/B comparison, watch this video from earlier in 1967 of a TV appearance where the Vox version of the electric harpsichord is demonstrated and played in an arrangement seemingly written to showcase the different stops of the Vox. It looks like a similar chassis to the standard Continental, and the sound is very much in tune with the late 60's. Note that is session man Neil LeVang playing the Gibson 12-string acoustic in the video. I'm a big Neil LeVang fan, and was *this close* (holds up thumb and index finger about an inch apart...) to buying that exact guitar when it was being offered for sale. I'm glad I didn't now, I'd be even more in debt, but anyway... Dig the Vox and see if you recognize those sounds from any familiar tunes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3DxMX7xDy4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3DxMX7xDy4) Then compare it to this demo of the Baldwin electric harpsichord from that same era which was used on Abbey Road: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ybi2T75pzk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ybi2T75pzk) And it's cool to see/hear how the Rock- Si -Chord (made in PA about 45 minutes from me, BTW) sounded in comparison. There was a bigger market for electric harpsichords at this time than probably at any other time, and smaller companies like RMI cashed in on the fad. Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: BeHereInTheMorning on June 28, 2013, 05:16:40 PM Wow... just wow.
I can only hope any further inquiries (I probably have a few hundred) are this fleshed out. I'm trying to compile a list of players on the post-Pet Sounds, pre-Sunflower material at the moment. This has really helped me out a lot. Fantastic photo from the Whisky, DonnyL. Always great to see Mike with an epic beard. Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 28, 2013, 05:41:44 PM Brian rockin' the Rock-Si-Chord on stage. Different angle.
(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/73988971-rock-and-roll-group-the-beach-boys-perform-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QVqWimY6hSSvNKG7y8Ba0Iu21UtTb1BNpprfnZzzkD2UZvheXQVcSayZd7k%2fJYbPGw%3d%3d) Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on June 28, 2013, 05:52:15 PM
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 28, 2013, 05:56:15 PM Try this, different link:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/brianwhiskey73988971_zpsfdeeaa6b.jpg) Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Amazing Larry on June 28, 2013, 06:13:51 PM Try this, different link: Brian looks kinda paunchy there.(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/brianwhiskey73988971_zpsfdeeaa6b.jpg) Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Amazing Larry on June 28, 2013, 06:17:14 PM Also, is that a Rock-si-chord doubling the bass line on 'Til I Die, or is that an Electra-Piano?
Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on June 28, 2013, 06:22:06 PM
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: sockittome on June 29, 2013, 08:53:04 AM I'm guessing this instrument is also used in Time to Get Alone? I always liked that part.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Amazing Larry on June 29, 2013, 04:58:09 PM I'm guessing this instrument is also used in Time to Get Alone? I always liked that part. I'm sure that's a real harpsichord, as the basic track was recorded before the band got a Rock-si-chord.Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: c-man on June 29, 2013, 05:11:16 PM I'm guessing this instrument is also used in Time to Get Alone? I always liked that part. I'm sure that's a real harpsichord, as the basic track was recorded before the band got a Rock-si-chord.Indeed. Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: Wirestone on June 29, 2013, 05:25:35 PM So what we're all saying is that Brian's love of horrible fake harpsichord sounds started early.
;D Title: Re: Brian Wilson and the Rock-Si-Chord Post by: sockittome on June 29, 2013, 06:21:13 PM I'm guessing this instrument is also used in Time to Get Alone? I always liked that part. I'm sure that's a real harpsichord, as the basic track was recorded before the band got a Rock-si-chord.Ah yeah, that makes sense! |