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Title: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Jaco on May 02, 2013, 10:31:24 AM A few days ago I heard this Wagner Ouverture:
Richard Wagner - Die Walküre Ouverture (aka Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKInmSFOPTQ The tempo and the up and down scales are VERY similer to this: Mrs O'Leary's Cow intro (aka intro to H&V?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDNiJl1Awo ---> You can play, mash these videos together at the same time. It doesn't have to be 100% at the right beat, it works! <--- Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Jaco on May 02, 2013, 10:43:39 AM & the same pizzicato line here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvMOAwssA4c&t=12 Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Mr. Cohen on May 02, 2013, 11:45:07 AM Cues posters to write, "It's just a simple descending scale, anyone could've come up with it on their own!"
Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: cablegeddon on May 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM Obviously I have to listen to that Fire piece again. Always seemed like something that stemmed out of a jam session while that overture is a very though-out piece of music bro
Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: BergenWhitesMoustache on May 02, 2013, 12:10:05 PM Yes there's a similarity, in tempo and in phrasing.
Unless it's being posted with a 'did brian pinch this' (no) kind of query, or a 'was he influenced by this' (maybe, maybe not) then it's not a thread with much opportunity for discussion. Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Jaco on May 02, 2013, 12:50:08 PM Phil Spector did the same, kinda...
He took 25 secs from Lohengrin and used it as an intro. To Brian, Spector was god... Richard Wagner - Lohengrin Ouverture (Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqk4bcnBqls About 10 minutes long, starts very soft 'from a distant' but with an explosion of sound at about 2/3 of the time (golden ratio) The Ronettes produced by Phil Spector - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilLT-ge6Luo&t=4 Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: joshferrell on May 02, 2013, 12:50:44 PM A few days ago I heard this Wagner Ouverture: What did Walkure Ever do to Wagner in order for Wagner to want him to Die? Walkure was a good man...Richard Wagner - Die Walküre Ouverture (aka Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKInmSFOPTQ The tempo and the up and down scales are VERY similer to this: Mrs O'Leary's Cow intro (aka intro to H&V?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDNiJl1Awo ---> You can play, mash these videos together at the same time. It doesn't have to be 100% at the right beat, it works! <--- Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Jaco on May 02, 2013, 12:55:44 PM A few days ago I heard this Wagner Ouverture: What did Walkure Ever do to Wagner in order for Wagner to want him to Die? Walkure was a good man...Richard Wagner - Die Walküre Ouverture (aka Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKInmSFOPTQ The tempo and the up and down scales are VERY similer to this: Mrs O'Leary's Cow intro (aka intro to H&V?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDNiJl1Awo ---> You can play, mash these videos together at the same time. It doesn't have to be 100% at the right beat, it works! <--- huh? Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: pixletwin on May 02, 2013, 01:13:11 PM A few days ago I heard this Wagner Ouverture: What did Walkure Ever do to Wagner in order for Wagner to want him to Die? Walkure was a good man...Richard Wagner - Die Walküre Ouverture (aka Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKInmSFOPTQ The tempo and the up and down scales are VERY similer to this: Mrs O'Leary's Cow intro (aka intro to H&V?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDNiJl1Awo ---> You can play, mash these videos together at the same time. It doesn't have to be 100% at the right beat, it works! <--- huh? It was a joke. Die Walkure. Wagner telling a dude name Walkure to die. I thought it was funny. Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: leggo of my ego on May 02, 2013, 06:16:06 PM A few days ago I heard this Wagner Ouverture: What did Walkure Ever do to Wagner in order for Wagner to want him to Die? Walkure was a good man...Richard Wagner - Die Walküre Ouverture (aka Prelude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKInmSFOPTQ The tempo and the up and down scales are VERY similer to this: Mrs O'Leary's Cow intro (aka intro to H&V?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDNiJl1Awo ---> You can play, mash these videos together at the same time. It doesn't have to be 100% at the right beat, it works! <--- huh? It was a joke. Die Walkure. Wagner telling a dude name Walkure to die. I thought it was funny. Not if your German. :p Actually Im not German and I didnt laugh either. :p :p Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: puni puni on May 02, 2013, 06:35:17 PM Heroes and Villains is in the key of C# major. In Bach's Air On A G String, there is a note that plays a C. Could the 'C' stand for 'connection to Smile'? Think about it...
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Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on May 03, 2013, 07:06:49 AM Heroes and Villains is in the key of C# major. In Bach's Air On A G String, there is a note that plays a C. Could the 'C' stand for 'connection to Smile'? Think about it... Mozart's Magic Flute is in German, the English language is descended from German. SMiLE is in English.........think about it! Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: The Heartical Don on May 03, 2013, 07:31:45 AM Every clock is a cloud. But not every cloud is a clock.
And Jaco, thank you for your posts - I still got to investigate your links. I appreciate them, no irony with me. Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: The Shift on May 03, 2013, 11:48:23 AM Enjoyed the Wagner very much. Would have to listen again and closer to get the similarities by as its the first time I've listened anyway I'm very grateful fort he heads up.
Title: Re: Wagner SMiLE connection Post by: Fire Wind on May 04, 2013, 03:05:25 AM And the grand climax to the opera is Wagner's own 'magic fire' music, as Wotan invokes Loge to create the ring of fire around his sleeping daughter.
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