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Title: Cowsills doc
Post by: shadownoze on March 06, 2013, 06:40:36 PM
Just stumbled upon a documentary on Showtime about the Cowsills and ended up watching the whole thing. Their story is as harrowing as the Wilsons, and includes a violent, hot-tempered, alcoholic father. There are lots of interview segments with John Cowsill and mention of his current role as drummer with Mike & Bruce. Fascinating film, full of stuff I never heard before.


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Mikie on March 06, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'd like to see that.  Bud Cowsill was just like Murry Wilson. Even his wife was intimidated by him and would glance off stage periodically at the ol' man during TV and live concert appearances to see if he approved of everyone's performances.  An abuser for sure.


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: bgas on March 06, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Oh well, he's dead. Take it to the sandbox


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on March 06, 2013, 08:28:27 PM
Didn't the father kick one of the sons out of the group after catching him smoking pot?


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 06, 2013, 08:41:04 PM
http://www.sho.com/sho/reality-docs/titles/3365261/family-band-the-cowsills-story#/index


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: oldsurferdude on March 06, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
The Cowsills-Now there's a group that changed the course of music in such an overwhelming manner. "Indian Lake" and "Cherokee Nation" alone go where no group has gone before. Why do bands like this come along with such infrequency? Just think of what could have been! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: rn57 on March 06, 2013, 09:22:37 PM
One of the Cowsill brothers died in Hurricane Katrina, easily the best known person to perish in the storm.


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 06, 2013, 10:49:48 PM
The Cowsills-Now there's a group that changed the course of music in such an overwhelming manner. "Indian Lake" and "Cherokee Nation" alone go where no group has gone before. Why do bands like this come along with such infrequency? Just think of what could have been! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
"Cherokee Nation" was the Raiders...."Indian Reservation" is the actual title...and don't sniff at the Cowsills...they may have been bubblegum, but they sure could sing, and it's hard to find a better sunshine pop record than "The Rain, The Park and Other Things".


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 06, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
Great music, a great story and John Cowsill is one of the flat-out nicest guys you could ever wish to meet.


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Doo Dah on March 06, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
One of the Cowsill brothers died in Hurricane Katrina, easily the best known person to perish in the storm.

That was Barry, who battled alcoholism in his later years. I recall Susan posting online, desperate for news about Barry at the time. The parallels between the two families are striking.

Great interview with John Cowsill on Michael Shelley's archives on WFMU. Touches on working with the Beach Boys as well as the family history of the Cowsills. Highly recommended (he's also got archived interviews with Brian and Billy Hinsche in 2008 and David Marks in 2012). http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/26970 (http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/26970)

http://wfmu.org/special.php/SH

BTW - listen to Poor Baby by the Cowsills and tell me that doesn't warm your ever-lovin' Wilsonian heart.


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on March 08, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
sounds interesting, hopefully will come online somewhere soon


Title: Re: Cowsills doc
Post by: bgas on March 09, 2013, 06:33:04 AM
The Cowsills-Now there's a group that changed the course of music in such an overwhelming manner. "Indian Lake" and "Cherokee Nation" alone go where no group has gone before. Why do bands like this come along with such infrequency? Just think of what could have been! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
"Cherokee Nation" was the Raiders...."Indian Reservation" is the actual title...and don't sniff at the Cowsills...they may have been bubblegum, but they sure could sing, and it's hard to find a better sunshine pop record than "The Rain, The Park and Other Things".

Not to mention  "The Partridge Family " was about them. 
It was an interesting doc ( on Showtime's Showcase channel here).  Lots of reveals including: The band didn't want to record " Indian Lake" but Dad said they would so they did the best they could with the song;  MGM had no intention of releasing "Hair" but a WLS DJ played it blind ( the story was good) / it took off like wildfire, forcing MGM to start pressing it.   

All in all, a sad story, but  interesting to view.  Catch it if you can