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Title: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 06:15:02 PM
Anyone else here a big fan?


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Myk Luhv on February 09, 2013, 06:18:04 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on February 09, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

No worries. His heart is in the right place.

You should check out "Fakin' It". You like The Beatles in 1967? You'd probably like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFBOd4YN60

Also, Bridge Over Troubled Water is one of the most consistent albums that I've ever heard (barring a cover of "Bye, Bye Love"). Spotify it.



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 06:39:56 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

I wasn't trying to win you over.
I couldn't care less if you liked them or not.
Your loss.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 06:43:45 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

No worries. His heart is in the right place.

You should check out "Fakin' It". You like The Beatles in 1967? You'd probably like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFBOd4YN60

Also, Bridge Over Troubled Water is one of the most consistent albums that I've ever heard (barring a cover of "Bye, Bye Love"). Spotify it.



Have you listened to Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme all the way through?
It's my favorite album of theirs. It's really wonderful.
Really love Bookends too.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Myk Luhv on February 09, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

I wasn't trying to win you over.
I couldn't care less if you liked them or not.
Your loss.

This is a great way to get other people into music you like, that you presumably want to share and jointly enjoy.

Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

No worries. His heart is in the right place.

You should check out "Fakin' It". You like The Beatles in 1967? You'd probably like this.

[snip]

Also, Bridge Over Troubled Water is one of the most consistent albums that I've ever heard (barring a cover of "Bye, Bye Love"). Spotify it.

That was an alright song but then I'm not the hugest Beatles fan either, I suppose. I will listen to it again though since obviously one listen doesn't win you over on much of anything, haha. Thanks for the suggestions!


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 09, 2013, 07:16:24 PM
Love them very, very much.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 07:41:25 PM
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Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
Nope, and you didn't even bother to even put in some cool songs or words to convince me why I should be.

I wasn't trying to win you over.
I couldn't care less if you liked them or not.
Your loss.

This is a great way to get other people into music you like, that you presumably want to share and jointly enjoy.

Didn't mean any disrespect. My apologies. If you're open to it, check out The Dangling Conversation. I really love that track.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 09, 2013, 07:49:21 PM
Love them very, very much.

What are some of your favorite tracks?


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 09, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
Bleecker St., The Sounds Of Silence, Richard Cory, I Am A Rock, The Sound Of Silence, April Come She Will,For Emily Whenever I May Find Her, Scarborough Fair/Canticle, Homeward Bound, Patterns, A Hazy Shade Of Winter, You Don't Know Where Your Interest Lies, Fakin' It, Save The Life Of My Child, America, Overs, Bookends Theme, Mrs. Robinson, every single track on Bridge Over Troubled Water, My Little Town.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Puggal on February 09, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
I love Simon and Garfunkel. My favorite of their songs is "So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright." Their vocals and arrangements are heavenly, much like The Beatles or The Beach Boys at their peak.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Alex on February 09, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
I had heard a sample of their instrumental "Anji" in Chumbawamba`s "Jacob`s Ladder" many, many times over the last few years without realizing it was from an S&G song until just a few months ago.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 09, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
I also enjoy their live albums. On Old Friends: Live On Stage, Paul plays some incredible acoustic guitar, especially on "The Sounds Of Silence" and "El Condor Pasa".


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Al Jardine: Pick Up Artist on February 09, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
HUGE FAN. Paul Simon too, massive, massive, massive fan.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 09, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
Along with the Beatles and the BB, Simon and Garfunkel are my favorite groups. Personally I think Paul Simon was a better songwriter than even Brian Wilson.

Anji was actually a David Graham piece.

BTW, acoustic guitar players will appreciate this rendition of Scarborough Fair:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHDQHQDS-4

As for their albums, I like all of them. However, I'm one of the few people I know who actually like their first album the best. It's the most "folk-y." This is one of the most outright, fantastically, indescribably beautiful songs ever written. Almost impossible for me to listen to it without shedding multiple tears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0eknfuix8


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: halblaineisgood on February 09, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
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Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 09, 2013, 10:07:27 PM
BTW, might as well tie this topic into the topic of the forum. ;) Fantastically beautiful rendition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmjj5Orjnl0


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 09, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
You should check out "Fakin' It". You like The Beatles in 1967? You'd probably like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFBOd4YN60
In the same style is this less-well-known song from the same year. Was released as a single but never made it on an album.

You Don't Know Where Your Interest Lies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raaQXN91PHs)

The bridge or interlude part seems to be a prelude to his solo stuff in the 70's.

The following is a beautiful rendition of a Haitian folk song. Didn't make it onto Bridge Over Troubled Water, Cecilia having beaten it out for the album's "ethnic" song:
Feuilles-o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI47F5wXDI0)
Whenever I listen to this song I always end up listening to it about 5 times in a row.

And speaking of Cecilia, really interesting story on the meaning of that song, if anyone's interested. It's not what you think the song is about.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: halblaineisgood on February 09, 2013, 10:31:07 PM
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Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 09, 2013, 10:34:28 PM
And speaking of Cecilia, really interesting story on the meaning of that song, if anyone's interested. It's not what you think the song is about.
It's not about making love with Cecilia up in his bedroom?
Nope.

Read the discussion here (http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/7341/). Very clever lyrics, completely throwing off the listener into taking the song literally. Sort the posts by oldest first.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Malc on February 10, 2013, 01:26:11 AM
Simon & Garfunkel session bassist Vs. Simon & Garfunkel session bassist game

a.k.a. Rank the Simon & Garfunkels #bass player

LARRY KNECHTEL                                                            JOE OSBORN
(Mrs. Robinson, America etc.)       VS.      (Bridge Over Troubled Water, album)


Both were EXTREMELY talented musicians overall (and Joe probably still is) but having researched Larry's career for my upcoming BREAD biog I gotta say Larry wins hands down, musically, for having co-written and arranged that piano intro of "Bridge..." (and for winning the Grammy) if nothing else ... and his bass duties on "Mr Tambourine Man" and The Doors debut confirms it for me. But that's just MY opinion ...


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: buddhahat on February 10, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
Love 'em - Cloudy and Only Living Boy In New York my current two favourites, but really there are so many incredible tunes. I think Paul Simon is one of the great American songwriters. I love his first solo album too.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 10, 2013, 07:42:22 AM
Love 'em - Cloudy and Only Living Boy In New York my current two favourites, but really there are so many incredible tunes. I think Paul Simon is one of the great American songwriters. I love his first solo album too.

I love those songs.
Cloudy is such a pretty little song.



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 10, 2013, 07:48:59 AM
I've been playing the crap out of this one lately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vv6dh2W2gk


And I'm sure you all know, but Paul has some really wonderful solo stuff too.
I love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3kKUEY5WU


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Mike's Beard on February 10, 2013, 08:03:00 AM
My favourite song by them is Cecilia esp the opening where people are just tapping random beats on different objects.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 AM
My favourite song by them is Cecilia esp the opening where people are just tapping random beats on different objects.

Yeah, that song rules.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 10, 2013, 09:00:24 AM
Along with the Beatles and the BB, Simon and Garfunkel are my favorite groups. Personally I think Paul Simon was a better songwriter than even Brian Wilson.

Anji was actually a David Graham piece.

BTW, acoustic guitar players will appreciate this rendition of Scarborough Fair:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHDQHQDS-4

As for their albums, I like all of them. However, I'm one of the few people I know who actually like their first album the best. It's the most "folk-y." This is one of the most outright, fantastically, indescribably beautiful songs ever written. Almost impossible for me to listen to it without shedding multiple tears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0eknfuix8



His brother and him look exactly the same.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 10, 2013, 03:47:19 PM
^
Yeah when I first discovered that I freaked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hokYyir4U7c


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Moon Dawg on February 10, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
 I like S&G best starting around the time of BOOKENDS. Simon's writing improved immensely when he got over his delusions of grandeur, a quality that marred (slightly) their earlier work.

 Special faves: "The Only Living Boy in New York" and "My Little Town", which has always made me wonder how great a seventies studio LP may have been.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 10, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
So, you're saying Paul had delusions of grandeur, but his later work was grand. How do you reckon that?


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Moon Dawg on February 10, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
So, you're saying Paul had delusions of grandeur, but his later work was grand. How do you reckon that?


 Paul figured out that sometimes less is more. He also escaped Dylan's shadow.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Moon Dawg on February 10, 2013, 06:53:42 PM
So, you're saying Paul had delusions of grandeur, but his later work was grand. How do you reckon that?




 Paul figured out that sometimes less is more. He also escaped Dylan's shadow.  By BOOKENDS the English-major preciousness of "The Dangling Conversation" was gone.  


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 10, 2013, 07:02:21 PM
In that case, he merely traded English-major preciousness ("The Dangling Conversation") for production grandiosity (the entire Bookends album and "Bridge Over Troubled Water"). Not sure that either one is any more "grand" than the other.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 10, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
Yeah, Dangling Conversation is terrible, and there are a few other weak tracks early on. I don't think he ever wrote a better tune than Homeward Bound, tho. My favorite thing he ever did is his first solo LP, one of the most underrated albums I know of.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 10, 2013, 07:08:49 PM
My favorite thing he ever did is his first solo LP, one of the most underrated albums I know of.
Very true.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Al Jardine: Pick Up Artist on February 11, 2013, 07:19:30 AM
For the last few days or so I've been listening to Flowers Never Bend With The Rainfall on repeat. I love this song.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on February 11, 2013, 09:08:03 AM
Another one of my favourites - because of their limited number of albums, they have an incredibly high consistency rate. I love almost all of their stuff. I don't quite understand "Somewhere They Can't Find Me" -- probably a good song but it sounds too much to me like the soundtrack to The Maltese Falcon or something and that throws me off. But they're great - and, personally, I love Dangling Conversation despite the high-end references.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 11, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
Somewhere They Can't Find Me was a "rock and roll-ized" version of this song. I like the original version much better.
This is one of the most outright, fantastically, indescribably beautiful songs ever written. Almost impossible for me to listen to it without shedding multiple tears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0eknfuix8



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 11, 2013, 04:26:01 PM
For the last few days or so I've been listening to Flowers Never Bend With The Rainfall on repeat. I love this song.

That's a beautiful song.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on February 21, 2013, 11:44:37 AM
I'm a fan. 'Bookends' is my favorite album for sure. Rattling the teacups.



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: lance on February 22, 2013, 07:25:39 AM
They kick utter ass.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Smilin Ed H on February 22, 2013, 07:39:59 AM
Love them - though much prefer most of Simon's solo work.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Dudd on February 22, 2013, 07:47:45 AM
Fantastic duo. They've had a couple semi-misfires (not terribly fond of Cecilia or I Am A Rock), but the good stuff makes up for it ten times over. Their calmer, soothing songs are the best - Only Living Boy In New York, Frank Lloyd Wright, 59th Street Bridge Song, and April Come She Will are all wonderful. And like everyone else I love Bridge Over Troubled Water, The Boxer, and Sound of Silence.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on February 22, 2013, 07:26:55 PM
Smoking hash to Bookends is a good memory...as it were....


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Awesoman on February 22, 2013, 08:51:06 PM
Paul Simon has become one of my absolute favorites. 


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: modestmaus on March 03, 2013, 03:07:55 AM
I love "Graceland". In the category of unlikely music releases: a Graceland Sessions box set would be freakin' sweet. Paul's "Pet Sounds" for sure.

Besides the songs themselves I love how "Graceland" is relevant to the time it was made in (in a good way. haha) and yet it somehow clicks together nicely as a Paul Simon album. I'm sure there are others who would disagree but when I listen to it I don't think "Wow. This isn't Paul Simon. He shouldn't be doing stuff like this."

I'm not saying they should have worked with South African session musicians but, I think its a damn shame The Beach Boys weren't able to something as relevant and good as "Graceland" (Oh the BBs had the 'relevant' part down somewhat. There's no denying Beach Boys '85 is a product of the 80's but it's relevant to the 80's in the 'yuck' sense)


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Mendota Heights on March 03, 2013, 03:36:27 AM
Simon & Garfunkel are up there with The Beach Boys, Leonard Cohen and ABBA as one of the very best music acts ever. Unlike The Beach Boys Paul Simon actually knows how to write reflective, descriptive, thought evoking, poetic and meaningful lyrics.

I know all the S&G songs and all the Paul Simon solo songs, started listening to them when I was about 7-8.

Even got these three albums on my wall:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/359yfqd.jpg)

:)


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Mendota Heights on March 03, 2013, 03:46:16 AM
I've been playing the crap out of this one lately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vv6dh2W2gk
The first 4-5 seconds of Song for the Asking is the best in all of recorded history.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Mendota Heights on March 03, 2013, 03:52:19 AM
And Paul Simon is quite funny too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-TmrWz2I4

Or maybe you don't like the leg frying motif. :)


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on March 03, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Paul Simon in the middle of an unfinished "Still Crazy" on the Dick Cavett show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjtOa8d_BHU

EDIT: More here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOLbV5gSIqI


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Al Jardine: Pick Up Artist on March 15, 2013, 11:10:55 PM
Ok this is Simon solo but it's been driving me crazy: are the drums on the opening of Mother and Child Reunion mixed a bit too high for anybody else? They start and the music seems to be at a normal volume but then the guitar comes in on the left channel and it's *so quiet.*

Is this just me?


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 10, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
Love Simon And Garfunkel.
The Sound Of Silence, Mrs. Robinson, and Scarborough Fair is what got me into music!

Though like the Beatles, I'm pretty much over them.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 10, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
Love Simon And Garfunkel.
The Sound Of Silence, Mrs. Robinson, and Scarborough Fair is what got me into music!

Though like the Beatles, I'm pretty much over them.

Over them as in listened too much to them, or tired of the praise they receive?
Hopefully not the latter, because like the Beach Boys they never get the praise they deserve.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 10, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
Love Simon And Garfunkel.
The Sound Of Silence, Mrs. Robinson, and Scarborough Fair is what got me into music!

Though like the Beatles, I'm pretty much over them.

Over them as in listened too much to them, or tired of the praise they receive?
Hopefully not the latter, because like the Beach Boys they never get the praise they deserve.

Oh they deserve the praise they get. I just listened to them too much, same with the Beatles.
Though I think they already have a lot of praise as it is, unlike the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 10, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
Was just thinking the other day how Art's voice would have sounded in the Beach Boys stack so thanks for bumping this thread.

I know Art's voice has been damaged for the last couple years but if he is healed up then Brian should get him in on the Brian Wilson and Friends album he is doing with Al and Blondie.

Also it has been a while since I listened to it, I really liked Garfunkel's "Everything Waits to be Noticed" album with Buddy Mondlock & Maia Sharp.

Title track here: (Buddy Mondlock playing the Paul Simon role)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGs9D3JwwqE


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Amazing Larry on February 10, 2014, 10:45:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IwYQ1Vqf_4
The Only Living Boy In New York has some of the only harmonies that rival The Boys' stuff.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: feelsflow on February 13, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
OregonRiverRider,  I love the trio that Artie put together to make that album as well.  I think they could get very close to the sound of S&G on some of the tracks, especially "The Kid," a fav.  My other favorites:  "The Thread" "Bounce" "What I Love About Rain" and the one you posted (I'll keep it a surprise for future posters and guests to click to find).   It's a mystery why there wasn't a follow up.  Only guess is that Buddy and Maia have fans of their own.  Artie did do a great new track with Maia on his Singer package.  
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Garfunkel may not be able to ever perform live again.  We can hope, but after so much time it seems unlikely.  He Can "piece" together a good performance, which is the method he used with his recent out-put.  The Singer tracks and he did one with Jimmy Webb on his new album last year.  They are all just fine.  Given enough time he could "piece" together enough tracks to put out another album.  He is one of America's finest singers.  He even gave up smoking, or he says he did...He's such a stoner though, I doubt it.  He sure is popular with the State Patrol around here - been busted twice that I know of in the Woodstock area.  Not the driver either, he rides in the back of the limousine.  That tends to stick out on all the back roads here.  May be the same limo that the record cover was shot from.
To touch on the topic...Simon and Garfunkel was too brief.  Both Artie and Paul put out more solo records.  It's nice when they did get together over the years.  I saw the reunion tour back in the early 80's, they filled up the Oakland Ball Park.  To this day I think Paul's Hearts and Bones would have been better if he had left Artie on...damn that Star Wars lady.  It's still my third favorite Paul album.  Artie was singing a couple of songs that were intended for the record.  They should put out a CD/DVD of that tour.  The other reunion tour I missed, but have the CD/DVD, and enjoy it very much.  They put a "rockier" edge on the numbers, and I think it worked.
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Everybody has a different take on what was their Best album.  I think they got better with each one.  But overall Bookends had more of my favorite numbers than the others, so that's the one I point to when someone asks.  Paul's first two solo albums are my favorite.  Artie...Watermark is the best one, I'm too big a Webb fan for it not to be.  But all his albums are Top.  When he couldn't get Columbia to re-master his records, save for the Singer stuff, Japan's division took it on and put out all of it through Lefty.  To say how much I dig this guy, I bought them.  Very expensive, but very worth it.  Some of them have bonus tracks, and released in their British configuration when appropriate.
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So yeah, I'll say a Big fan of both Paul and Artie.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 14, 2014, 04:29:20 AM
OregonRiverRider,  I love the trio that Artie put together to make that album as well.  I think they could get very close to the sound of S&G on some of the tracks, especially "The Kid," a fav.  My other favorites:  "The Thread" "Bounce" "What I Love About Rain" and the one you posted (I'll keep it a surprise for future posters and guests to click to find).   It's a mystery why there wasn't a follow up.  Only guess is that Buddy and Maia have fans of their own.  Artie did do a great new track with Maia on his Singer package. 
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Garfunkel may not be able to ever perform live again.  We can hope, but after so much time it seems unlikely.  He Can "piece" together a good performance, which is the method he used with his recent out-put.  The Singer tracks and he did one with Jimmy Webb on his new album last year.  They are all just fine.  Given enough time he could "piece" together enough tracks to put out another album.  He is one of America's finest singers.  He even gave up smoking, or he says he did...He's such a stoner though, I doubt it.  He sure is popular with the State Patrol around here - been busted twice that I know of in the Woodstock area.  Not the driver either, he rides in the back of the limousine.  That tends to stick out on all the back roads here.  May be the same limo that the record cover was shot from.
To touch on the topic...Simon and Garfunkel was too brief.  Both Artie and Paul put out more solo records.  It's nice when they did get together over the years.  I saw the reunion tour back in the early 80's, they filled up the Oakland Ball Park.  To this day I think Paul's Hearts and Bones would have been better if he had left Artie on...damn that Star Wars lady.  It's still my third favorite Paul album.  Artie was singing a couple of songs that were intended for the record.  They should put out a CD/DVD of that tour.  The other reunion tour I missed, but have the CD/DVD, and enjoy it very much.  They put a "rockier" edge on the numbers, and I think it worked.
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Everybody has a different take on what was their Best album.  I think they got better with each one.  But overall Bookends had more of my favorite numbers than the others, so that's the one I point to when someone asks.  Paul's first two solo albums are my favorite.  Artie...Watermark is the best one, I'm too big a Webb fan for it not to be.  But all his albums are Top.  When he couldn't get Columbia to re-master his records, save for the Singer stuff, Japan's division took it on and put out all of it through Lefty.  To say how much I dig this guy, I bought them.  Very expensive, but very worth it.  Some of them have bonus tracks, and released in their British configuration when appropriate.
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So yeah, I'll say a Big fan of both Paul and Artie.

Good news feelflows. Artie is on a mini tour right now.
Here is "Kathy's Song". He is not all the way back but not bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIV97y3dI_w

The new "The Singer" tracks aren't bad, "Lena" and "Long Way Home". I have seen Artie twice solo, Paul once and S&G once.  Great artists.

Thanks for the great Artie limo stories. You do know your S&G.

Gosh, I wish the Heart and Bones tracks with Artie still exist and would be released.  I read Paul wiped um but you never know.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: feelsflow on February 14, 2014, 06:57:57 AM
Wow, what great news.  I haven't keyed in his name into a YouTube search for awhile.  This shows he could do another record.  I'll be fine with that, as long as he doesn't use auto-tune.  Don't hear that on the clip you posted.  A man on a tightrope for sure.  Still very fragile.  He must really want to do this.  So many of my old favorites are in their seventies now.  Many of them still touring worn-out voices.  But have you heard Judy Collins' recent records?  She can still sing like a bird.  She can sing like that live too.  The price of tickets these days would keep me from shows like this.  When I was on Long Island a couple of weeks ago I was shocked when told what John Fogerty could pull in up to $350 per seat for a small Theatre Show (the old Westbury Music Fair/now NYCB), that's the kind of place he would play.  
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Back when I was living (and Working) in San Francisco, I could.  But never had the chance.  I don't remember him doing any solo shows there.  I have the 1996 DVD he put out of the Ellis Island Show.  Great, but too focused on S&G tracks (given a new spin presented solo) - when I'd rather he played from his solo songbook.  I did see Paul several times in the 80's.  I looked up her name yesterday, but didn't come back to fix my post.  Carrie Fisher, only married to Paul for about a year, but that year was 1983/84 - while the Hearts and Bones sessions were being done and discussed.  My understanding is that the vocals are gone.  But, for years that's what we heard about Crosby/Nash being wiped from the Stills/Young project, and some of those have turned up over the years.  I am sure some of the first reunion tour ('82/'83) must have been recorded, but wasn't released because of the Central Park Show being pretty much what they were promoting.  The set list was different though, focusing less on Paul's solo material - more on the new stuff they were recording ("Allergies," "Think Too Much," "Hearts and Bones," "Johnny Ace," "Song About the Moon," "One Summer Night," "Cars Are Cars" and Artie showcased some of his recent Scissors Cut tracks: "A Heart in New York," and "In Cars" done as a duet! with Paul taking part of the lead), old S&G numbers - so better.  The Central Park Show was very similar to Paul's solo shows promoting One Trick Pony, Paul himself just getting back to playing gigs after a long lay-off - it took him five years to make the movie.
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We'll see, I want a new record more than live dates.  Garfunkel is a master at choosing material.
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EDIT:  Hold the Action.  After doing this post I did some research and found an article from 2011 that gives some detail on just what happened to the Artie vocals.  And what they have in the vaults.  I see now Gregg has helped me get it Linked.  Thank You Gregg.  I would be a better poster if I could learn more tech stuff, I'll get a book.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 14, 2014, 02:07:58 PM
Here is that article you alluded to feelflows:

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/ithink-too-muchi-sg-album-wasnt-0

Think Too Much: The S&G Album That Wasn't (too long to post)

Interesting as Mark Linett pops up in the article


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: feelsflow on February 14, 2014, 02:19:39 PM
Thanks Gregg!  I was just about to fill in some notes from the article, now everyone can read it themselves.  So more good news if Paul and Artie will allow it to happen.  But Robin wrote the piece three years ago now.  At least it confirms what is out there!
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It's a long shot that Mark might be reading over in the General Music Threads, but if he sees this I hope he will add a bit more on his take from those 1982 sessions.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 14, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
Thanks Gregg!  I was just about to fill in some notes from the article, now everyone can read it themselves.  So more good news if Paul and Artie will allow it to happen.  But Robin wrote the piece three years ago now.  At least it confirms what is out there!
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It's a long shot that Mark might be reading over in the General Music Threads, but if he sees this I hope he will add a bit more on his take from those 1982 sessions.

It is exciting to hear that a mix exists with the Garfunkel vocals. I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Hope it comes out one day.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 14, 2014, 08:55:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IwYQ1Vqf_4
The Only Living Boy In New York has some of the only harmonies that rival The Boys' stuff.
Brilliant song and production! Harmonies are dreamlike.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on February 14, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
Here is that article you alluded to feelflows:

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/ithink-too-muchi-sg-album-wasnt-0

Think Too Much: The S&G Album That Wasn't (too long to post)

Interesting as Mark Linett pops up in the article
Wow, thanks for that link. Maybe someday we'll get to hear those tapes, would be great to hear them.

Maybe somebody could convince Mr. Nash to release the tapes as bootlegs. :D Though I'd bet he wouldn't want to piss off Paul Simon.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Ron on March 04, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
I'm a novice at Simon & Garfunkel, of course I've heard all their big singles for as long as I've been alive, but I haven't been paying attention and haven't bought any of their albums yet.

Over the last couple months, I've been listening to a couple Paul Simon songs that I recorded off XM (you can hit a button and it saves the song that's playing).  So I've been driving around from time to time playing "Kodachrome" and "You can Call Me Al".  So I've been soaking in his genius slowly from those two songs.

The last week or so, I've been thinking about Art Garfunkel... and how he must have been pretty bad-ass because all the harmony lines behind Simon that he's signing on their big hits are pretty complex and amazing. 

So today, as I'm driving to work, "Sound of Silence" is playing.  It's just amazing of course, and when the song's over, the DJ goes "Isn't that incredible?" then explains that he was just playing the original version, without the orchestration.  Then he mentioned that it didn't sell well, so the record company called in Hal Blaine and some others to flesh it out and re-released it.  I'm not sure how much of that's true, but I'd never heard the stripped down version.  Pretty amazing.

So over the next couple years I'm going to slowly soak in some more of Paul Simon's work.  He's really fun to sing harmony too, you can just go crazy on the melody, I guess it's the way he wrote it... like "Slip Sliding Away"... who doesn't sing along and go "sllip SLIIIIIIDE! in away...."


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Ron on March 04, 2014, 10:20:24 PM
My favourite song by them is Cecilia esp the opening where people are just tapping random beats on different objects.

I like the fairly pathetic nature of the lyrics.  "I get up to wash my face, when I go back to bed someone's taken my place!"



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 05, 2014, 12:14:10 AM
So today, as I'm driving to work, "Sound of Silence" is playing.  It's just amazing of course, and when the song's over, the DJ goes "Isn't that incredible?" then explains that he was just playing the original version, without the orchestration.  Then he mentioned that it didn't sell well, so the record company called in Hal Blaine and some others to flesh it out and re-released it.  I'm not sure how much of that's true, but I'd never heard the stripped down version.  Pretty amazing.

Somewhat true, the original was never released as a single but was on the duo's first album, Wednesday Morning 3 AM.  The album itself was a flop and they initially broke up, Simon then began a semi-successful folk lounge act in Europe, he recorded one album, The Paul Simon Songbook of songs from his act, several of which would become Simon & Garfunkel songs.  Anyway, in '65, The Sound of Silence began to recieve airplay on US radio stations and famed producer Tom Wilson who decided to put some rock instrumentation on it to make it a marketable single without Simon or Garfunkel's involvement or ackowledgement.  It was the single's success that caused Simon & Garfunkel to regroup in the US and create and album around the new version of the song, appropriately titled Sounds of Silence which was a big hit.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Ron on March 05, 2014, 07:56:26 AM
That's essentially what he said I guess, I just didn't quite get all the specifics because it was in fast dj speak :)

"So they put it out like that, and it FLOPPED, it didn't go anywhere, so the record label called in Hal Blaine to add drums, and they layered on the instruments... it sold great like that and they said "COME ON BACK, PAUL!" so he came back from England and the rest is history!!!!"

LOL



Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: donald on March 05, 2014, 08:12:51 AM
I'm a fan. 'Bookends' is my favorite album for sure. Rattling the teacups.




Bookends is my favorite as a complete  album.     With this US mid atlantic weather lately, I've been listening to Hazy Shade of Winter playing in my head........


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Amy B. on March 08, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
I love Simon & Garfunkel, and Paul Simon solo.

Right now I think my favorite S&G song is The Only Living Boy in New York. I read somewhere the song was about when Art went to film a movie, leaving Paul in NY to finish the record. ("I know your part'll go fine") To me the lyrics are a man trying to wish his friend well while also feeling lonely and maybe even resentful. ("I know you've been eager to fly now...") Very poignant. He calls Art "Tom" because they used to call themselves Tom and Jerry.

I also love Paul's An American Tune, from There Goes Rhymin' Simon.

Paul Simon has never been stuck in one place. Instead his music matured as he did, which is admirable. (So the pretentious early stuff was a product of youth and can be forgiven!)


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 08, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
I just watched The Graduate last night, probably one of my favorite movies.  Even though it's over 40 years old, it holds up tremendously and I seem to notice something new to love about it each time I watch it.  Simon and Garfunkel's songs have a huge presence and arguably had a lot to do with the film's success, I would certainly believe that.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: feelsflow on March 08, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Me too.  Watched it about a week ago.  Got it under the tree this past Christmas.  Wonder how many other board members have seen it recently?
Dave Grusin's music is great too.  Classic soundtrack.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on March 09, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
Me too.  Watched it about a week ago.  Got it under the tree this past Christmas.  Wonder how many other board members have seen it recently?
Dave Grusin's music is great too.  Classic soundtrack.

I own it, and it's a wonderful film.
My fiance and I snuggle up and watch it from time to time!


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: donald on April 04, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
Much as I enjoyed Paul's solo career, I still miss Artie in the vocal mix.     at least on most songs.    they could have gone on as an act, mixing harmony songs with individual vocal performances on other songs.  Although I don' t think Artie would have "fit" on Graceland.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 04, 2014, 10:30:52 PM
Much as I enjoyed Paul's solo career, I still miss Artie in the vocal mix.     at least on most songs.    they could have gone on as an act, mixing harmony songs with individual vocal performances on other songs.  Although I don' t think Artie would have "fit" on Graceland.

Hearts and Bones which is probably my favorite Paul Simon solo album was originally intended to be a Simon & Garfunkel album to coincide with their 1983 reunion tour.  There are bootlegs out there of Train in the Distance and Song About the Moon with Garfunkel studio vocals.  Think Too Much, Cars Are Cars, and The Late Great Johnny Ace were also included in their setlists on the tour.  But in the end, it just didn't work out.  Simon decided to wipe Garfunkel's vocals from the album.  Honestly, I can see why it didn't work but I still would love to hear what it would have sounded like.  Think Too Much in particular, the fast version, sounds like it could have made a great Simon & Garfunkel song.  You can read more about it here.
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/ithink-too-muchi-sg-album-wasnt-0


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Amy B. on October 09, 2017, 05:21:57 PM
I thought I'd post here that art Garfunkel has a new book out. I heard this interview with him and thought I'd post the link:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/art-gafunkel/


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 20, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
Simon's definitely better singer than Garfunkel.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 20, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
Simon's definitely better singer than Garfunkel.
I think Paul himself might differ with you on that assertion.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: JK on October 22, 2017, 04:30:14 AM
Great to see this topic revived after three and a half years!

Last night I watched a film version of a play called My Old Lady and all of a sudden amidst all the original music they played Paul Simon's "Peace Like A River". This may just be my favourite track of his: those descending backing vocals and Paul's sudden leap into wordless falsetto----fantastic! And it betrays his interest in "the sound of a cappella groups, yeah". I could listen to this all day. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAmPfEMI16g

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Old_Lady_(film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Old_Lady_(film))


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on October 22, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
I can't tell you how much time I've spent trying to figure out how to play Peace Like A River on my guitar.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: JK on October 23, 2017, 04:03:26 AM
I can't tell you how much time I've spent trying to figure out how to play Peace Like A River on my guitar.

Yes, it sounds quite virtuosic! Shows what a fine musician Mr Simon is.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 23, 2017, 05:56:01 PM
I think Paul himself might differ with you on that assertion.
Interesting - didn't Paul say he regretted to not sing "Bridge Over Troubled Water"?


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: undercover-m on January 04, 2018, 12:15:34 PM
I've had "The Only Living Boy in New York" stuck in my head all morning.


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: Buckethead on March 26, 2018, 07:26:04 AM
Love Simon and Garfunkel! Never really enjoyed Simon on his own, though . Together? Magic. Transcendence  is such a way that I experience with the work of few other artists (say, the beach Boys)!


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: KDS on March 26, 2018, 11:05:50 AM
Love Simon and Garfunkel! Never really enjoyed Simon on his own, though . Together? Magic. Transcendence  is such a way that I experience with the work of few other artists (say, the beach Boys)!

That's pretty much how I feel about Paul Simon.   Outside of a couple songs, his solo material does little for me.   But the work with S&G is amazing. 

For the most part, I feel the same about Sting and The Police. 


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 27, 2018, 07:50:10 AM
I'm presently reading "Paul Simon: The Life" by Robert Hilburn, which came out recently.
I've listened to some of Simon and Garfunkel's early Tom and Jerry recordings they did as teenagers.
For some reason I had never listened to their first album, Wednesday Morning 3 AM. Finally did last night. Wow! Absolutely wonderful songs and harmonies. It strikes a nice balance between the starkness of Dylan's first album and the slickness of some of the folky groups popular at that time. I highly recommend it.

I also listened to and enjoyed Simon's early solo work, Songbook, recorded while he was living in England. That includes several songs that appeared on later S&G albums.

Also read that Simon took an acting class in college with Andrew Goodman, one of the 3 men brutally murdered during that horrible "Mississippi Summer" of 1964. His murder really shook Simon up. He dedicated a song, "He Was My Brother" to his memory. Even though the song was written before Goodman's death, the lyrics are very apt - "They shot my brother dead/Because he hated what was wrong."


Title: Re: Simon & Garfunkel appreciation thread
Post by: SMiLE-addict on June 28, 2018, 04:09:41 PM
Wednesday Morning 3am is actually my favorite of their albums.