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I'm trying to collect all the BB studio albums on vinyl, so far I've got most of them, the following I have found to be hard to get. I marked 2 of them with a *, I can't tell if they were ever released on vinyl, can anyone confirm if they were?

Carl & the Passions "So Tough"
Still Cruisin'
Summer in Paradise *
Stars and Stripes Vol. 1*

I can't answer you question about the two with *, but I see CATP:ST on vinyl at my local record stores all the time.  If you can't find one, send me a PM sometime and I'll see if I can pick one up for you.

Summer in Paradise was released on vinyl somewhere in the world but it's incredibly hard to find and will be very expensive when you do find one.

Stars and Stripes was not released on vinyl.

I have both So Tough and Still Cruisin'. PM me if you're interested in a purchase. However, the postage from Sweden is probably worth more than the records themselves.

Yea, I would hate to see what that postage would be.

Wonder why they never released S&S on vinyl? 

well, considering SIP was only released on vinyl in korea...

Carl/Passions isn't hard to find at all. Try Ebay if you don't have local record shops. Keep in mind though, that most copies are bundled with Pet Sounds - this raises the price and demand.

Vinyl was out of fashion in the mid 1990s, at the time a lot of albums were only released on CD.

… reportedly one of the best mono Pet Sounds pressings there's been …

Since I have that one (in single form, no Cooper Black, brown instead of green), I can confirm that: the souand is awesome.

I've seen them on ebay but as a bundle, hoping to get one by itself.

I'd just buy the bundle, unless you have some need to only have it as a single album. The bundle is the first American issue, so it's not like you wouldn't be getting the original.

You should be able to get the first two very easily -- my copy of Carl & The Passions only cost me three pounds, and Still Cruisin' only cost me ninety-nine pence.
Still Cruisin' sounds (even more) horrible in vinyl though -- it's from the late 80s, when they were pressing vinyl so thin it was practically transparent, and has essentially no bass end at all.

i really like the sound of my Still Cruisin' LP - I think... I don't tend to play it.

I guess my main reason for not wanting to bundle is that I all ready have 2 copies of Pet Sounds and if i bundled that would make 3.

No such thing.

There is if you buy a later pressing. My copy didn't come with Pet Sounds (although that may be because it's a European pressing).

Yeah, I have a Reprise label CATP 'standalone'. Cost me peanuts as well. Although it's not an original pressing, as of course that was the bundle.

Carrying on my run of stating the obvious, if you're listening to these things you should really pick up the bundle, as it's the best sounding Pet Sounds on vinyl! And you can find them for reasonable money, mine was only £10.

Yeah, I've owned a standalone Passions, as well.

I've seen 2 on ebay, single albums, both German pressings. Since it seems in the US, that double lps is the only way, guess I'll go that route.

i got one of those last summer; already had 2 vinyl copies of PS, didn't feel the need for another.

BTW, how does the CATP bundle sound over the standalone?

To the OP, IMO, seek out US pressings as a preference - releases from colonies and outposts are varied and not as balanced - to my old ears

It's quite amazing to think that we're actually in the golden age of vinyl right now. Just about everything gets a (token, at least) vinyl release, and if you're willing to pay for it, most all of it is pressed in super heavy 180gram virgin vinyl.

Picked up a Lana Del Rey album the other day from my local vinyl shop just because it was there and was cheap. Sounds great, even though her deliberate "anti-production" won't sound exactly amazing in any format.

Yeah, my UK original sounds HORRIBLE. Mastered Muddily and quietly. I bought the US Two-Fer for the Fantastic Pet Sounds, but the improvement on CATP blew me away even more than the PS LP!

In the US, no. Elsewhere, yes.

Certainly my UK copy sounds muddy compared to the CD -- I've not heard the US vinyl to compare.

I'm curious what you mean by "anti-production" because i am really into her and that's kind of making me scratch my head.

Because her stuff sounds like something someone made at home on good but consumer grade gear. It's like a friend down the street having a sister you have a weird sort of crush on and she asks you to come into the room (making sure you shut the door behind you) and listen to some songs she's been working on but you're not supposed to tell anyone about it.... Like her or not, she's pure expression. She seems to give no sh*t about doing what a pop-tart (or indie-queen) of the current strain is supposed to do. Her stuff is awkward and imperfect yet brimming with confidence at the same time.... Defiantly head scratching material of the best sort.

That's really, really well put and pretty much exactly how i think of her/have described her before. It's nice to hear that people are looking past the surface and seeing those qualities in her. She's undoubtedly an anomaly. I think the syntax in my post was awkward, and thus my point confusing: liking her is not what makes me scratch my head (it makes sense on so many levels; by the way, i can't keep track of how many parallels i've drawn between her and the Beach Boys, not to mention having lost count of how many times she has mentioned them in interviews), what confused me about your post was your description "anti-production" because i've never heard that perspective in regards to Born to Die, an album that is often described as overproduced. "Anti-production" makes me think of no production, maybe something like Wild Honey or Smiley Smile, what a lot of people would describe as "under produced." Nonetheless, i see your point about the record's production. You should check out her first record if you haven't already--where the real magic is.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.

The Walls of my basement den are decorated with framed Beach Boys album covers. I've got all of the original studio albums except for SIP and S&S. I'd like to see a vinyl release for both only to complete my decorative collection!

SIP did come out on vinyl.... didn't it?

Very well put as well..... What I think I meant by ant-production was to contrast it to all the stupid things both pop stars and indie "kids" think they have to do nowadays. Lana Del Rey seems to think (quite rightly) that her ideas are more important than their execution of how they might rise or fall as to whatever professional standards people seem to expect and take for granted. If you ignore her voice (which isn't "perfect" either but has perfect character, which she seems to grasp) they are quite clumsy and could have been done lots and lots "better" ... But this is something that excites me about any kind of art. That feeling that if the person were to sit back, take a breath and really consider what they're doing and give a damn about it being "good" enough for people to judge: the idea will be gone! It's like how Brian dubbed Pet Sounds down really clumsily and quickly as if it would escape his grasp if he took too much time or thought about it....

Made In Korea. Appropriate.

I remain to be convinced of the legitimacy of that release.

Ha! In more ways than one.

I don't care - it's all I'm missing! (screw S&S)

 :lol

Agree. The SC vinyl sounds awesome - warm, well-defined, crisp, it is a real advertisement for what vinyl can offer. Thanks for this comment. One of the occasions where I never had the tiniest impulse to re-buy on CD.

Yeah, I got the CD for 50p at a record fair, but only so I had - I've never actually played it! BB85 also sounds incredibly better on vinyl than digitally!

Ha... that is why I never bothered with getting BB85 on CD too. To me it seemed 'digital-to-the-power-of-two', so to speak - the album itself is pretty 'electronic' in itself already.

Yeah, it certainly allows it to breathe and takes away that nasty digital sharpness. I play most of my LPs to death anyway, the only one of which isn't original is PS, since the original UK mono is, well, blerrgh. Techniclly same applies to CATP - I just use the CATP US two fer for both  ;D .

I own a nice nm original US 1st press mono of Pet Sounds which sounds ok but a bit underwhelming, it's more of a nice centerpiece to my small Beach Boys collection until I can get a minty C&TP original which is supposed to be better. However original UK parlophone Mono Beatles albums are possibly the best sounding releases i've heard on 60's vinyl.

yeah, i really like all my UK 60's albums (BB wise and most others), but Pet Sounds is a flippin' Duophonic Fold-down!

A US pressing of Friends was a big disappointment when I got it as well although that mainly had to do with the fact that I ordered a pressing of ebay that was apparently near mint but when I played it had pops and clicks all over it! Grr.. :wall :angry

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

I assume you're just referring to US there? For instance, my UK Today! sounds spectacular! (as spectacular as the mud that it is can be) http://www.4shared.com/mp3/1LRuEIi2/Do_You_Wanna_Dance__Vinyl_.html? (http://www.4shared.com/mp3/1LRuEIi2/Do_You_Wanna_Dance__Vinyl_.html?)

Oh yeah, the vintage UK pressings are great, as is nearly always the case.

The early albums I own on Capitol from 1962-1965 are piss poor for the most part.  Why is that the case with Capitol?

About the only Capitol LPs I play from time to time are the mono "BBs deluxe set" along with a 1968 pressing of The Band's "The Music from Big Pink".

They pressed on crap vinyl, likely recycled from melted-down recalled LPs. Things got so bad during the 69-70 green label era at Capitol that many of the copies of the first pressing of The Band's self-titled LP had a built-in skip. Around this time, there was a consumer outcry about bad pressing, which led to an industry standard being imposed by the RIAA. After that, Capitol became one of the most reliable labels for good virgin vinyl pressings, particularly from 1978 though the end of the vinyl era.

The weird thing is, during the mid-late 50's they were actually one of the BEST companies at producing nice sounding vinyl in the US! Frank Sinatra fans will know what i'm talking about, I have some lovely grey label Capitol pressings of Sinatra's albums "Come Fly With Me" (1958) and "Songs For Swingin' Lovers" (1956) and they sound fantastic! They actually haven't bettered the sound on those Capitol Sinatra albums even 55+ years later! There's a million threads over on Steve Hoffman's forum about this issue and one of their guys (Bob F) is basically the Sinatra's fan bases version of Andrew G. Doe!  ;D

Agreed.

And now they've turned into sh*t again (at least in my experience)

Agreed again.

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I AM SO FUCKING JEALOUS!!!!!

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No, but there was a Stars & Stripes cassette tape and "The Making of Stars & Stripes" DVD's with different packaging variations. And Stars & Stripes promo sunglasses. And a Stars & Stripes EEE HAW cowboy hat....

Aww man, you got a hat?

are the missing Worms vocals on it??

Naw, there's no hat. Just wanted to solicit a response from my ol' pal Bgas Alot and sure enough......

Some guy on a bored I use to post on said he had two pairs of S&S sunglasses and that he'd send me one, but he never did.

Shornuffpardnur!  
Of course there's no hat( or I'd have one, right?)  


I thought the sandpail( 1/2 filled with sand) along with a sandshovel/scoop, a pack of redhots, the cassette and CD single of "Hot Fun In The Summertime" was a much better promotion, done for SIP( I'll try somehow for a pic of that....

A PACK OF REDHOTS?!

Hey! My sand pail didn't come with sand! How'd you get that??

Got this?  Got it for a five fingered discount.  But you don't collect CD's, right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEACH-BOYS-Hot-Fun-in-the-Summertime-1992-USA-PROMO-DJ-CD-single-BB-PROCD-2-/350603063932?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item51a192327c

I knew a salesperson for Navarre, so I got the sand...  
And yeah, I have that CD. I don't really collect CDs anymore, tho I don't know exactly when I stopped, just that I did.  

What happened to the frisbee - your dog got hold of it or you threw it and it hit a telephone pole?

Oh my lord. Were they planning on releasing this album straight to 99 cent stores? Thanks for posting that hilarity.

It was promotion that went to dealers only, obviously. Coming out  of Minnesota( Navarre) Kinda cool, I think.

Yeah, I hear ya!  It Just sorta fell apart! I have anther one that's much the same condition; wish I could find a nice one! But I never see it offered for sale.  
Frisbee= pail Lid ( in case anyone wondered)  

Where's a couple of old promotions I never saw?  

I was going to post a picture of my Smile albium cover Owsley blotters but tthe copmuter ssems to be melting agian.

You mean with or without the worm on the cover?

My damn 15 Big Ones frisbee is cracked too. Dunno how it happened - I've never taken it out of the house. Mighta happened during the partying days at my house and somebody grabbed it out of my closet to do lines or roll J's on it and got overzelous with it..........gotta find another one. My 15 Big Ones kite and hanging mobile and posters are still mint though. Same with the Love You promo stuff. WB put a LOT of money into promoting The Boys back in the 70's.

Yeah, of course.

Looks like your brutha has a frisbee on Ebay for $5( with a 3 inch crack)  http://www.ebay.com/itm/121061799000  
next cheapest is $19.95 or best offer( no crack)  bet they'll take $10...   http://www.ebay.com/itm/181056273012  
and then there's this seller that feels it's worth $59.95( Derek would like him better, keeping the values up):  http://www.ebay.com/itm/370672668464  in his description, he notes these must be rare, because you never see one! and he's right, there are three at the moment...

Uuhhh, (editing)  I noticed I should have noted Ebay also has a photo from 1986 of some guy catching his 15 Big Ones frisbee at a BBs concert: 
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/280888729485

And you're right,Mikie!  WB put out a ton of promotional stuff, for the short time they had them. Way more than Capitol, it seems. Different Era? Deeper pockets/bigger tax break?

Problematic product?

Thanks for posting the merch stuff, Bgas, really cool!

60 smackers for the frisbee? Shiiiiit. I'll Crazy Glue mine back together for that. 20 bucks is more like it. Can't have any cracks in it - it wouldn't be an upgrade. Don't think the frisbee was made by Wham-O. Never seen a Wham-O frisbee crack like that. Musta used cheap plastic....

YEah! IF I'm buying I want it cheapo, but if I'm selling....   
Bought one about a month back for $11( including shipping), cuz it was in nicer shape than my others;  some guy with his finger in the dyke sent me a more recent Euro Frisbee that holds a CD on the top. was that mentioned here?( the frisbee and CD)
and I just posted some files in media for a trifle I found today

As a booster: Mikie , I saw this Salt Lake City on Ebay today: 
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEACH-BOYS-45-RPM-PRO-CAPITAL-RECORDS-2936-2937-SALT-LAKE-CITY-UTAH-/140913639576   
looks to expensive for the condition( to me) but if you just gotta have one.....

I saw a guy try to plug a dyke with his finger once.  After awhile it obviously wasn't enough so he...............OK, well, I'll stop there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the promo 45, Bgas. Yeah, a little pricey for the condition, but you don't see many these days. I wonder how many were pressed.

Ya know, the 2nd rarest Capitol BBs promo record is on ebay now for $900; been there at least a month: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beach-Boys-Ray-Anthony-Ultra-Rare-Split-Demo-EP-Capitol-2185-/200862932103

You got this one?

At first glance I thought that Guess I'm Dumb pencil was a thermometer, now that would be an unusual promo item.

The Beach Boys go Nuclear?

Nope. Had a chance of picking one of those up at the Capitol Records swap meet back in the 70's for around 200 bucks and I passed it up.

Too bad!  Never see that price again.  had to be cool seeing all the stuff at the swap meets. Benefit of living in CA( long trip from my house)

  edit....( pic was changed) 

you know...that was one baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad album. yuck.

Hey Mikie!  Don't know if you have this one; First time I've ever seen a sealed copy offered for sale: 

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/RON-ALTBACH-BEACH-BOYS-SUITE-1979-ADC-Album-NEW-MINT-SEALED-/230899265912   

No, never seen nor heard of that one before. And I definitely wouldn't pay 40 smackers + for it!

Has anyone here heard it?  It seems like it would be a good listen.

if it is like the recording i had of a suite type recordings of beach boys songs it is a very good listen.

Well, just in case I checked my copy, and both labels are blank! I don't know if they awere all made that way, or if I have a test pressing.
Either way, if you have an interest in hearing it, pm  and I'll send you  a link.

I got the single LP of  Carl and the Passions-SO Tough- but  that album is NOT essential BBs- unless yer a diehard zealot, which I'm.

If I knew "then" what I know now I woulda got every album thru Love You. Love You is THE last BBs album ya really need.

But I do have em all and theyre all important to me.

I was able to score a Still Crusin off of ebay for less than $15, and while in Gatlinburg, TN, i picked up a CD copy of Stars and Stripes for $2. All that I have left is Summer in Paradise. Guess that record will be my Eleanor...