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Title: "Smile" superimposition experiments from 1996
Post by: SufferingFools on January 08, 2013, 08:16:47 AM
Hi, just wanted to share some wild ideas I acted on back in the nineties when my Smile obsession was at its height.  The ideas were:

Superimposing the "Cantina" section over what is now known as "Heroes and Villains part 3 (Animals)":
http://tinyurl.com/a6kpeua

and

Superimposing some of the sound effects from what was then known as "George Fell Into His French Horn" over part of "Surf's Up":
http://tinyurl.com/akowzbx

These were sort of the crown jewels of my DIY Smile back in the day, and I listened to it so often that I still can't hear "Cantina" or "Surf's Up" without thinking of these.  :3d 


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Post by: seltaeb1012002 on January 08, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
Pretty cool stuff man! Props for doing it on a 4 track tape recorder!


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Post by: Roger Ryan on January 08, 2013, 09:38:24 AM
Fun! I've usually mixed the "Heroes & Villains Part 3" under the final a capella "I've been in this town so long..." section which works well. It also provides an interesting counterpoint when mixed under the "Wonderful" tag ("Mamamama").


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Post by: Catbirdman on January 08, 2013, 09:53:41 AM
Superimposing some of the sound effects from what was then known as "George Fell Into His French Horn" over part of "Surf's Up":
http://tinyurl.com/akowzbx


Damn, I've been pipped to the post. My Smile also uses horn SFX in Surf's Up. I put Swedish Frog over Tag to Part 1 though, right after Barnyard.


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Post by: ash on January 09, 2013, 01:13:10 AM
I did a similar thing with cantina and the animal noises a few years back. Sure it's not historically accurate but it does fit both time-wise and thematically- the cowboys in the bar behaving like animals while the ladies dance.
Still find it a shame that the Smile box wasn't able to clear up (m)any mysteries about the various Heroes versions due to lack of surviving tapes/acetates and input from Brian and Van Dyke Parks.
Am i right in remembering that Alan Boyd or Mark L. mentioned that a slightly longer edit of the standard 45 version had been found during research for the box ?


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Post by: SufferingFools on January 09, 2013, 07:00:32 PM
Pretty cool stuff man! Props for doing it on a 4 track tape recorder!
Thanks! ... the hardest part, as I recall, was dubbing in the George Fell bits direct from vinyl!  :thud


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Post by: SufferingFools on January 09, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
(double post)


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Post by: Micha on January 12, 2013, 03:19:23 AM
I combined the animal noises with "Tag to part one" and used it as a middle eight in Wonderful. As if it was meant that way - same tempo, same key. It wasn't meant that way, of course, but works as if.


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Post by: Wrightfan on January 13, 2013, 08:16:57 PM
Never noticed how well Animals fits with the cantina.

I always knew those horns fit well for Surf's Up but could never figure out how. Your idea makes a lot of sense.