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How likely is it?  I just eat this type of stuff up.  In fact the very reason that I adore many of my favorite BB songs is because I heard a backing track or vocals-only version or something that made me realize a depth to the song that I missed while just listening to the original version.

In my dreams Capitol would release a gigantic boxed set (library?) with every single unabridged backing track session and vocal session (at least EVERYTHING from '65-'67).  Or make it all available for download and you could pick and choose what material you want and pay by the minute of material downloaded or something.  However knowing that such a release will never happen I wonder if another rarities release is possible.  Did Hawthorne, CA not sell well enough to justify it's production costs?  Is it not commercially viable to follow that up with a similar release?

There was that release, and Endless Harmony, and the earlier Rarities release, and the outtakes on the twofers, and the Pet Sounds box, and the Smile Box.

Seems those releases kept the fire burning for fans and stoked the legend.   With the reunion and all of the current product, I don't see that happpening outside of the release of an all-out box set...at least for now.    A lt of that sort of cool stuff is  already out there on boots for the hard core fans....

Still, to have it professionally compiled like on Hawrhorne was a real treat

It's a good thing they aren't about to release an all-out boxed set, then.

Oh wait.

We really need to transition into drooling and speculating over the track list. C'mon, track list...

I take it you're completely oblivious to the 50th anniversary box set that is being worked on...

My ideal box set tracklisting:

Happy Birthday Freshmen
Bermuda Shorts
Good News
Surfin'
Luau
Barbie
What Is a Young Girl Made Of
Surfin' Safari
409
Mother May I
Ten Little Indians
County Fair
Little Girl You're My Miss America
Summertime Blues
The Shift
Blue City (Carl and Dave-written instrumental-Does a recording of this even exist??)
Surfin' USA
Shut Down
Stoked
Surf Jam
Lana
Farmers Daughter
Finders Keepers
The Baker Man
Back Home
Surfer Girl
Catch a Wave
In My Room
Surfers Rule
Your Summer Dream
The Surfer Moon
I Do
Little Deuce Coupe
Ballad Of Ole Betsy
Our Car Club
Be True to Your School
Cherry Cherry Coupe
Custom Machine
Spirit of America
Pamela Jean
Fun Fun Fun
Don't Worry Baby
Why Do Fools Fall In Love
In the Parkin' Lot
Louie Louie
Keep An Eye On Summer
Warmth of the Sun
I Get Around
All Summer Long
Hushabye
Little Honda
Girls on the Beach
Drive In
Wendy
All Dressed Up For School
Honda 55
Little St. Nick
Merry Christmas Baby
Blue Christmas
Santa's Beard
Do You Wanna Dance
Dance Dance Dance
Good to My Baby
When I Grow Up
Please Let Me Wonder
I'm So Young
Kiss Me Baby
She Knows Me Too Well
In the Back of My Mind
Guess I'm Dumb
Girl From New York City
Salt Lake City
Amusement Parks USA
Then I Kissed Her
California Girls
Help Me Rhonda
Girl Don't Tell Me
You're So Good to Me
Let Him Run Wild
Little Girl I Once Knew
I Should Have Known Better
Papa Oom Mow Mow
Ruby Baby
Hide Your Love Away
Mountain of Love
Satisfaction
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Barbara Ann
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Sloop John B
You Still Believe In Me
God Only Knows
Caroline No
That's Not Me
I'm Waiting For the Day
Here Today
I Wasn't Made for These Times
Hang On to Your Ego
Trombone Dixie
Good Vibrations
Heroes and Villains-cantina
Do You Dig Worms
Cabin Essence
Wonderful
Vega-Tables
Wind Chimes
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
Surf's Up
With Me Tonight
Little Pad
Whistle In
Gettin' Hungry
Wild Honey
Darlin'
Aren't You Glad
Country Air
I'd Love Just ONce to See You
Let the WInd Blow
Can't Wait too Long
Friends
Wake the World
Be Here In the Morning
Little Bird
Busy Doin' Nothin'
Diamond Head
Sail Plane Song
Do It Again
I Can Hear Music
Bluebirds Over the Mountain
Cotton Fields
I Went to Sleep
Time to Get Alone
All I Want to Do
Never Learn Not to Love
Break Away
Celebrate the News
Mona Kanai
My Solution
Walk On By
We're Together Again
Old Man River
Won't You Tell Me
Rock and Roll Woman
Fig Plucker
Back Home (1969 Version)
Walkin'
This Whole World
Add Some Music
It's About Time
Forever
All I Wanna Do
Our Sweet Love
At My Window
Cool Cool Water
I Just Got My Pay
HELP Is In the Way
Games People Play
Seasons In the Sun
Soulful Old Man Sunshine
Big Sur (1970 Version)
Sound of Free
Lady
Don't Go Near thee Water
Long Promised Road
Take a Load Off Your Feet
Disney Girls
Feel Flows
A Day In the Life of a Tree
'Til I Die
Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again
Fourth of July
California Slide
It's a New Day
You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone
Here She Comes
He Come Down
Marcella
All This Is That
Cuddle Up
Ecology/DW Suite (All of My Love, etc.)
I've Got a Friend
Barbara
Sail On Sailor
Steamboar
Big Sur
Sunny Californ-i-a
Trader
Leaving this Town
Only With You
Funky Pretty
Hard Times
We Got Love
Carry Me Home
Fairytale Music
Burlesque
California Feeling Demo
Lucy Jones
Lazy Lizzie
Carl's Moog Experiment
Rollin' Up to Heaven
Child of Winter
Rock and Roll Music (Hot Mix)
It's OK
Had to Phone Ya
Palisades Park
Tallahassee Lassie
Blueberry Hill
In the Still of the Night
Just Once In My Life
You've Lost that Lovin' Feeling
Sea Cruise
Mony Mony
Shake Rattle and Roll
Honkin' Down the Highway (Billy Hinsche vocal)
Let Us Go On this Way
Roller Skating Child
Mona
Johnny Carson
Ding Dang
Solar System
I'll Bet He's Nice
Airplane
Marilyn Rovell
Sherry She Needs Me
Winter Symphony
River Song
What's Wrong
Time
You and I
Rainbows
Thoughts of You
Pacific Ocean Blues
Farewell My Friend
Life Is For the Living
Lines
Deep Purple
It's Over Now
Everybody Wants to Live
Still I Dream of It
Shortenin' Bread
New England Waltz
Viggie
Beth on the Mesa
Hey Good Lookin'
She's Got Rhythm
Peggy Sue (Alt Mix)
Come Go With Me (Alt. Mix)
Kona Coast
Pitter Patter
Sweet Sunday
Matchpoint of Our Love
Winds of Change
Almost Summer
Sad Sad Summer
Skatetown USA
California Beach
Country Pie
California Feeling (1978 version)
Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Goin South
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Sumahama
Love Surrounds Me
It's a Beautiful Day
School Girl
Wild Situation
All Alone
Keepin' the Summer Alive
Livin' With a Heartache
Goin' On
Oh Darlin'
Endless Harmony
I Write the Songs
Looking Back With Love
Rockin' the Man in the Boat
Be My Baby
Heaven
Runaway
Oh Lord
You've Been Good to Me
Yeahhh
Stevie
What You Do to Me
Rockin' All Over the World
Where We Are
Stagger Lee
Summertime City
East Meets West
Chasin' the Sky
Getcha Back
It's Gettin' Late
Maybe I Don't Know
She Believes In Love Again
Where I Belong
I Do Love You
It's Just a Matter of Time
Male Ego
At the Hop
Rock and Roll to the Rescue
California Dreamin'
Wipe Out
Kokomo
Love and Mercy
Melt Away
There's So Many
Meet Me In My Dreams Tonight
Rio Grande
Too Much Sugar
Still Cruisin'
Somewhere Near Japan
Problem Child
Crocodile Rock
Someone to Love
Hotter
Rainbow Eyes
Make a Wish
Doing Time on Planet Earth
Spirit of Rock and Roll
Smart Girls
Hot Fun in the Summertime
Summer of Love
Still Surfin'
Strange Things Happen
Lahaina Aloha
Summer in Paradise
I Wish for You
Like a Brother
THey're Only Words
Run Don't Walk
Getting In Over My Head
I'm Broke
Elbow '63
This Song Wants to Sleep With You Tonight
Marketplace
Saturday Morning In the City
Slightly American Music
Frankie Avalon
Dancing the Night Away
You're Still a Mystery
Soul Searchin'
Your Imagination
She Says She Needs Me
Happy Days
Little Deuce Coupe (Mike, Bruce, Dave, Dean T., Adrian Baker)
Ballad of Old Betsy (Mike, Bruce, Dave, Dean T., Adrian Baker)
Brian Wilson
This Isn't Love
California Energy Blues
California Feeling (2002 Brian Version)
California Recall Blues
City Blues
A Friend Like You
The Waltz
How Could We Still Be Dancing
Roll Plymouth Rock
Song for Children
Child Is the Father of the Man
On a Holiday
Good Vibrations (BWPS version)
Cool Head Warm Heart
PT Cruiser
Believe in Yourself
Glow Cresent Glow
10000 Years
Unleash the Love
Santa's Going to Kokomo
That Lucky Old Sun
Morning Beat
Forever She'll Be My Surfer Girl
Good Kind of Love
California Role
Going Home
Oxygen to the Brain
Southern California
Midnight's Another Day
I'm Into Something Good
The Like In I Love You
Summertime
'S Wonderful
I Got Rhythm
A Postcard From California
Looking Down the Coast
California Feeling (Al Solo version)
Drivin
Don't Fight the Sea
San Simeon
Waves of Love
That's Why God Made the Radio
Isn't It Time
Shelter
Daybreak
From Here to Back Again
Pacific Coast Highway
Summer's Gone
Mike-Dave song left over from TWGMTR
Proud Mary???????????
Pleasure Island???????????

i highly doubt solo material will make the cut, otherwise that's one damn good list. I miss some of the better Love You tracks tho, perhaps the demos should be released instead?

Great list but as well as all the unlikely solo material, there're a lot of straight album cuts which many of us will have multiple copies of. Much prefer alt/live/outtake versions of those, so there's some fresh listening material for our ears.

One thing I hope the forthcoming box does is break down some of the tracks – include demo, instrumental takes, vocal overdubs and finished product, where appropriate mixed for stereo debut, or remastered, so we can see the progression of such tracks from start to release.

Fixed that for you.

Looking at that list, I am amazed people think Lazy Lizzie is worthy of release. I'm sure even the bootlegger was disappointed when they found it.

Think the nearest you might reasonably expect to get to a fresh Hawthorne CA/Endless Harmony-like set would be if Capitol simultaneously released a 2-disc version of the MIC box for the public at large, bit like the 2CD TSS set.

One hasn't been announced but it seems to be quite common practice – see the recent Led Zepp release, the up-coming Rumours sets, the Stones' Grrr packages… there are precedents.

And there's an opportunity to shove out a dozen or twelve additional 2CD-only tracks not on the box… long as it's not a single must-have bonus track, I'd buy (despite being in the doldrums!).

Better than most songs on M.I.U. I love how the chorus explodes.

I'd take half a CD of Lazy Lizzie session material over Pitter Patter....

David Leaf sh*t himself over it in his book lol

A full box set of Summer In Paradise sessions, demos and outtakes to give to my enemies!

Given how often the Beach Boys have blurred the line between group and solo projects in the past, both on stage and on record, I think you've been a bit over-zealous with your strikethroughs there.  It would be a shame to omit a recording as unique as "Don't Fight The Sea", for instance, simply because it appeared on a solo album.  (And while I assume that Alex's list only took studio recordings into consideration, what of group live performances of solo tracks?  I don't think it would upset too many people if a good live version of "River Song" from the mid-'70s turned up in a nice mix on the box set.)

And it breaks my heart to see "You're Still A Mystery" crossed out.  I recall you casting doubt on its release elsewhere (oh look, it was here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14160.msg325400.html#msg325400) but surely something of such obvious importance and quality should at least be considered.  I'm sure ownership issues can be resolved with a bit of negotiation and / or chequebook action; I for one don't mind paying a few quid more for my box set if it means that they can get some of the stuff from the "slightly awkward" pile out there.

If they released a 2CD version of this box for the public at large, presumably it would be a career spanning compilation focusing on hits that also had a few lesser known singles and more obscure fan/band-member favorites thrown in.  It seems to me that that would be redundant since that's exactly what 50 Big Ones is.

Don't think so. That wasn't the format of the Endless Harmony, Hawthorne CA, or TSS sets and as we've just had 50 Biggies, why, as you rightly point out so why would they repeat that?

Way I see it, 50BOs lure in a fresh audience, 2CD MiC provides further inroads for them without committing them to the full spend on the box.

Anyway, January's far too early for a comp of summer hits - knowing the BBs, 2013's GHs will be out in time for Thanksgiving!

I'm hoping one of the discs on MIC will be a rarities disc

I'm rather hoping MiC will be a rarities box.

Well that's wishing a little too much  ;D

I'm setting the bar low, I'll settle for one disc

'lazy lizzie' is really great.

Is it the latent paedophilia, the recycled chorus, the crappy vocals (complete with orgasmic shrieking!), the non-existent lyrics (about picking up school girls!!), crap production, whispering and disturbing noises in the bridge, etc that grabs you? It's awful!


Granted, the harmonica is a nice touch. But this is a moot point, they'll never release it.

I'd rather listen to the complete works of Kenny G three times in a row than hear Lazy Lizzie again.

Or This video with Kevin Love...
http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/12/08/12/Love-jazzes-up-coat-drive-with-silly-vid/msn_landing.html?blockID=832491&feedID=3543

The real question is why David Leaf raved about this song like it was second coming of "hitmaker" BW.

This is funny! :)

Sorry to drag up an old thread but what exactly did David Leaf say about the atrocious Lazy Lizzie?

Out of the 200+ useless compilations "the beach boys" have released, only 2 deserve my recognition of being legitimate, worthwhile and full of love/thought. They are the Endless Harmony Soundtrack & Hawthorne, CA Birthplace of a Musical Legacy.

How about 1993's "Thirty Years of Good Vibrations"?  Unless you classify box sets in a separate category from "regular" compilations...

If MIC has about 25% unreleased material, it will surpass Hawthorne CA and Endless harmony.

Once it's out I reckon it'll take ooh… five mins for folks on this board to suggest sufficient still-unreleased tracks to make up another 2cd set! And another minute for Phil to deny it's possible!

It would also massively surpass the first box set so that would be cracking. The 1993 box set had the Smile songs and 10 or 11 others I think (except for the live/vocal only/alternate mixes etc.).

Well I was 9 when thirty years of the beach boys was released. But I have my thoughts about it now. I'm glad the songs were put in chronological order, the booklet was stellar, the bonus disk was a real treat. But there are a lot of songs that I think should have been omitted and ones that should have been included. I'm not to keen on the packaging, and the individual cd cases/pictures. I believe unreleased material should be put in a package of their own e.g. Hawthorne CA & endless harmony..

Soulful old man sunshine/ help me, Rhonda (alternate single version)/ do it again (early version)/ loop de loop/ til I die (alternate mix)/ long promised road live 1972/ Brian's back & the hidden A Capella sample of kiss me, baby are the highlights of the album.

Kiss me, baby (a cappella mix), Salt Lake City (session highlights), devoted to you (without party overdubs), lonely days, I went to sleep (a cappella mix), a time to live in dreams, be with me (backing track), add some music to your day (a cappella mix), forever (a cappella mix), sail on sailor (backing track) & the Lord's Prayer are my favorite tracks. ;D