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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-BZCrcU-w
(listen at :50) I just checked a out a rapper my girlfriend introduced me to and surprisingly in one of his lines he mentions Brian Wilson. (What a coincidence)

How known was Brian's drug problem and mental breakdown? Did any of you know of this back in the day? (My father knew about it and told me after Pet Sounds he didn't hear much of the Beach Boys and thought they retired.)
Did any of big names in the industry ever talk about it? (It's such a sad situation, I'm happy see that Brian is in a happier place these days.)

*triple post* ugh  :-\

Try doing a little very basic research first - like reading a book or two - and then consider if this question is worth asking for any purpose except to see your name on a screen.

No..just post a link of someone famous talking about Brian's mental state at that time.

The troll has returned.

And Methuselah never left

:lol You're still a jerk I see...

Yowch!

I thought Newguy's threads were generally well received here. It's a legitimate question he's asking and might be interesting to hear the older fans' personal takes on how aware they were of Brian's mental state at the time.

Plus the hip hop reference is cool. New sig there, ta very much!

Someone does some basic research, or at least shows signs of trying, I have time for them. Anyone who just shows up and asks to be spoon-fed information that's easily found either online or in assorted books over the years, I don't. Brian's mental problems have been well documented, going back to 1971 and the Nolan articles, if not before (although not so openly). Just show a little effort. Is that much to ask ? In some cases, apparently so.

I see where you're coming from, but love it or hate it message boards are convenient sources of info these days. I'm sure most of us are guilty of eschewing the book case for Smileysmile.net when we have a nagging question we want answered (or maybe I'm lazier than most here). It's not as if he's asking when Carl was born, or the name of Brian's first wife or something.

Also the following questions in the op show potential for interesting discussion and therefore worthy of a new thread, imo:

Yet you've still got time to post a sh*tty dig.

Be honest, you just enjoy being a grumpy forum big shot who never misses an opportunity to remind lesser mortals that you've dedicated your entire adult life to obsessing over the minutiae of a pop band.

If other people want to ask questions you consider beneath you, then live and let live. Ignore it. See also Phil Cohen. Let someone else answer instead of just being unpleasant. If this were my forum I'd have banned you ages ago. Absolutely zero respect for anyone else.

Who is Phil Cohen  :lol??

and along comes mutilated corpse guy. f*** you too, shitbag.

Mods, please delete my account.

If you need a reason it can be that I think this place is a complete nest of cunts. A bunch of mad bastards who even manage to make talking about The Beach Boys NOT FUN!

Ta!

What are you mad about, this board can be annoying at times, but it is rewarding to stick here when a new BBs discovery or release comes out.

weeeell weell ethan, are we making laughs at others? great. ::)

no really i don't know who that is...

Ever heard of wikipedia? You can't always just barge into this board starting threads to demand  information from the members.

Your a lucky man....

This is the post of the day.

And this post.

Well no one's perfect.

Great thread.

God, I love this forum

Oh my - someone forgot to take his happy pills this morning.

Seems like a lot of us did this morning. I know I certainly did. I'm in a bit of a mood today and really don't want to deal with this sh*t.

Everybody, chill out.

And to answer your question Ethan, Phil Cohen is this board's version of Eeyore, with a dash of Chicken Little thrown in for good measure.

For the record: I was in a great mood this morning

Can I clone you? :lol

:lol lol

Me too, and I still am. :D

To answer the original post, there's a great thread right here
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14540.0.html

That 'song' you've linked is fucking atrocious!

To answer your questions: Don't know, probably and probably.

EVERYBODY

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;D Thank you..I've always wanted to know how the people of that generation felt about his condition or if they knew about it.

:lol Ouchhhhhh Burn! For some reason I have a feeling most of this is true. lol

I know it is but the fact that he brought Brian Wilson is so random ..I'm surprised he even know who Brian Wilson is.

Brian Wilson is from The Beach Boys.

The Beach Boys are one of the biggest bands of all time.

It's not that surprising

There's some Xzibit track on YouTube where he raps over "Good Vibrations" samples, and EPMD sampled "Help Me Rhonda" in one of their songs too. It's uncommon, sure, but not completely mind-blowing.

Nobody demanded anything.  The guy just asked s simple question that he figured someone here could answer.  Not everyone has all the books or videos at hand or the time to scroll through endless on-line sites, articles, etc.  If you don't have time to answer, don't take more time writing a cranky response. Just leave it alone.

That's true but I'm just surprised he mentioned Brian's addiction on a record.

:) Exactly..the reason why I asked on here is because it's a Beach Boys message board I thought it was the appropriate place.

Did they mention Brian or any of the other members in the songs?  ;D

Nope, just used the music as part of the beats.

Well all the props go the producer for sampling The Beach Boys. :P
It's weird to see both worlds parallel.

Yeah, but hip hop is not exactly the first genre of music I'd think of that were heavily influenced by the Beach Boys.  So the fact that a Brian Wilson reference found its way on a rap song is rather remarkable. 

Got that right.. ;D I hope it continues I want more artists from different genres to recognize Brian was the genius he is.
I was also shocked when Daft Punk mentioned their first name for the group was Darlin ' which they named after The Beach Boy's song Darlin' from the album Wild Honey.

Hip-Hop is sort of a producer's art, right ? Well it's only to be expected then, A Bri Drop. Every record producer I've ever known (or have known of) will name check Brian Wilson or Phil Spector at some point. Though, it's never a good idea to converse with a Bri/Phil name dropper. They sometimes seem to have no interest in actually appreciating the work, or studying it to the point of absorption. 

Call me once somebody raps about Al Jardine. He wasn't a producer, and he kept it clean. Not so interesting !

Well we might not have Kanye West sampling The Beach Boys but we do have the Insane Clown Posse

"I'm trying to tell ya Beach Boys I feel ya"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gxF2FJksY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gxF2FJksY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUq9X6ORAo&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUq9X6ORAo&feature=relmfu)

I love that Violent J is sincerely receptive to the pro-surfing message. He's all like "Yeah, dawg I might wipe out, but it looks fun as hell dawg, not to mention all them hoes on tha' beach"

Ohhhhhh noooooo  :o

Vibrations featuring Adrian Baker (http://open.spotify.com/track/74Kyepxd5vBGjWgo2nRFcV)

I think a rapper should sample Feel Flows. Good tempo, funky track, and the bit under the guitar solo would be hella dope.

You're right, the guitar solo part sounds just like something Kanye West would sample.

Sir, this is highly inappropriate...........fap fap fap

There should be an mixtape by a rapper that samples nothing but the beach boys. I'd love to hear those soft harmonies in the background as a rapper cleverly lace the track with smooth lyrics.
At first I thought this was a Beach Boys sample..check it out you guys and tell me what you think..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctVY00A_JVA

There is. It's called "In the key of dee" and it samples the entire Pet Sounds album. It's incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqkQeXw8smE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqkQeXw8smE&feature=related)

Agreed, "Brian Looking Shady."

Here's something I put together earlier this year.  If you guys haven't had an opportunity to check it out, perhaps some will enjoy it!

(http://willcmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/adieu_or_die_cover.jpg)

Adieu Or Die (Full Audio with 38-Page PDF Booklet - http://www.divshare.com/download/16733827-ed3 (http://www.divshare.com/download/16733827-ed3)

Adieu Or Die YouTube Trailer 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAejrvtCkBw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAejrvtCkBw)

The goal of Adieu Or Die is to rework selections from The Beach Boys catalogue and give
them a new, unexpected aesthetic. I want it to be a means for many to prick their ears up
about an often overlooked larger body of work from one of music’s most interesting groups,
as well as a means for the long time fans with open minds to hear re-imagined versions of
beloved songs.

Adieu Or Die YouTube Trailer 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ICsqi_vs4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ICsqi_vs4)

Adieu Or Die YouTube Trailer 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJo3zi1aMrM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJo3zi1aMrM)

Featuring takes on material from Surf’s Up, Smile, Wild Honey, 20/20, Sunflower,
15 Big Ones, Pet Sounds, Love You, Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) and more.

(http://willcmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/back_to_mono.jpg)

(http://willcmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cool_it_be.jpg)

(http://willcmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dialation.jpg)

(http://willcmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/run_wild.jpg)

And for those who haven't checked the "Ask The Honored Guests" -> "The Stephen Desper Thread" in a couple weeks, you may enjoy checking out what's happening over there lately!

R.I.P. J Dilla (That's a Detroit Legend!)

That was ingenious :) I love the intro when he said we got real stone, we got real stoned, we got real stoned...perfect way to start the song..
I'm looking forward to checking out more of your stuff.
You should make some beats sampling Caroline No, Surf's Up & The Night is So Young..

What do you guys think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLqoiOcjYg

The Insane Clown Posse are better than Kanye West.

Don't be silly.  ::) (That's complete trash.)

"God Only Knows" sounds like a train wreck.

Thanks NewGuy, I appreciate your kind words man.  In regards to your suggestions to work with Caroline No, Surf's Up and The Night Was So Young...

I for the most part tried to steer clear of Pet Sounds, as Buillon had already done an exceptional job with his project Pet Sounds in the Key of Dee.  However, I did work with some pieces of music he didn't utilize when it came to Pet Sounds.  Thin Air on Adieu or Die utilizes a Pet Sounds medley The First Edition did, available on Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q4Dm8ixBws

Here's Thin Air - http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/thin-air (http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/thin-air)

Meanwhile, 30 Days Later utilizes the vocals to I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, married to a sample of a South American LP from 1978. Here's 30 Days Later - http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/30-days-later (http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/30-days-later)

Surf's Up was given a go here - http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/neon-bygones (http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/neon-bygones)

The Night Was So Young, a song I truly adore, was given a shot, but it didn't make the final cut.  Instead Airplane from Love You was chopped up on "747" - http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/747-1 (http://soundcloud.com/willcmusic/747-1)

Man you seriously have talent the only thing I noticed about your instrumentals that I wasn't too fond of is that some of them (3 of them) have the same sound/flow with no major changes throughout the song except for the bits of talking in the intro or outro.(Unlike with Neon Bygones with had many different parts of Surf's Up to it.) (Which I absolutely love!!) You should change it a bit in the middle of the song by adding another one of their songs in the mix like that suite of whatever that group's name was performing it.
It's a beautiful thing to come across two great genres (that you wouldn't expect to ever parallel) and see them blended in one for a minute or two and your instrumentals is a product of it and I enjoyed it..(The way you added Nas in the Neon Bygones..it was ehhhh just felt totally out of place.) Man Brian's Epiphany/At the Roller Rink sounds so amazing...I really appreciate how you added the clips of the commentary to each track it adds even more life to them.
The way they were talking about Brian in his room away from the world in Seasons Ending is so sad but the music sounds so good that it doesn't make me feel bad it's just so chill.

I'm being 100% sincere.

...only type of people on this board more hated than  Brianistas? -- JUGGALOS.

Careful Runnersdialzero. :police:

:lol F*ck em (Juggalos)

See? :(

I think BWM is taking the same train out of town that Vintage Music took!   :smokin

Is this Beach Boys done Dubstep style?   >:D

I'm guessing it is to be honest I don't know sh*t about Dubstep but from what I've heard it's crap and sound like Charlie Brown's teacher.  :P

FUNNY!

Prejudice is never cool, newguy. Never cool.

You're the biggest clown of 'em all, buddy.

Your life is a joke.

Stop right here, both of you.

In all fairness that was a pretty out of line cheap shot by Gohi

It was ..such a b*tch move.  :p

He said stop. Respect Squancho Mcfapfap. He's a mod, a nice dude, and he gives us a new username every week.  Seriously. We have some REALLY nice mods here, on some other boards you'd probably be banned a long time ago.

Relax. It was a harmless joke, people. Good grief.

my life is fucking brilliant
my life is fucking brilliant
my love is fucking pure
i saw an angel
of that i'm fucking sure
she smile at me on teh subway
ehhhshewaswithanothaman
i am fucking high

YOUR BEATUFL
YOUR BEATULF
YOUR BEATULF
IT TRUE

I was blown away (Brian voice) when I heard how he referenced Brian's drug problem on his song not many artists like to touch on that subject.

I will have to play this for The First Edition, they will be impressed!