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Title: Photos From "My Solution" Recording Session ?
Post by: originals on August 29, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gek_4Pqce2Y

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Post by: STE on August 29, 2012, 01:44:20 PM


Thanks!!
I had never seen that first photo.




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Post by: Banana on August 29, 2012, 01:45:19 PM
Awesome...yet strangely creepy!


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Post by: pixletwin on August 29, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
First time I have ever heard this song. Makes me like "Happy Days" more.


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Post by: originals on August 29, 2012, 02:07:55 PM
What a trippy song. I love it.


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Post by: Rocker on August 29, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
The backing track that was recorded around "Keepin' the summer alive" sounds also quiet good.


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Post by: Banana on August 29, 2012, 03:29:46 PM
I've heard them both.  The 1970 version is just "odd".  They manage to come up with some fairly creepy sounds...and Brian's campy narration is really funny.  I'm just not sure what they were getting at.  With any other artist I'd just dismiss this as some fun in the studio...but when Brian Wilson is involved you cannot completely rule out that this was a serious attempt to create something (though, I really doubt it)! 


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Post by: runnersdialzero on August 29, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
I've heard them both.  The 1970 version is just "odd".  They manage to come up with some fairly creepy sounds...and Brian's campy narration is really funny.  I'm just not sure what they were getting at.  With any other artist I'd just dismiss this as some fun in the studio...but when Brian Wilson is involved you cannot completely rule out that this was a serious attempt to create something (though, I really doubt it)!  

He actually references the song by name in a mid-70s interview as having an interesting vocal arrangement (or something simiilar). He's particularly rambly during this part, but it's all fascinating stuff for a fan - it's the only tme I've ever heard Brian reference a few specific songs, including this one.

I do think "My Solution" is mostly just Brian and co. having some fun, although some of it may have been something Brian had sitting around as an idea. Still, if it is mostly a toss-off, 'tis further proof of Brian's brilliance given the quality of some of the raw aspects of it.

Is Dennis on this song? I feel like folks say he isn't, but I'd swear that's him prominently heard in the "I knew I'd found" parts. Bruce is very audible, too.


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Post by: oldsurferdude on August 29, 2012, 06:16:13 PM


Thanks!!
I had never seen that first photo.



The second picture first showed up in Creme Magazine I bought back in the day. There were other pictures ioncluding a classic Denny pic.


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Post by: Banana on August 29, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
It is quite interesting that Brian would recycle the music decades later for "Happy Days".  If you consider he had another go around 1980, too, it must have been a very intriguing melody for him.


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Post by: Dunderhead on August 29, 2012, 09:32:07 PM
I've heard them both.  The 1970 version is just "odd".  They manage to come up with some fairly creepy sounds...and Brian's campy narration is really funny.  I'm just not sure what they were getting at.  With any other artist I'd just dismiss this as some fun in the studio...but when Brian Wilson is involved you cannot completely rule out that this was a serious attempt to create something (though, I really doubt it)!  

He actually references the song by name in a mid-70s interview as having an interesting vocal arrangement (or something simiilar). He's particularly rambly during this part, but it's all fascinating stuff for a fan - it's the only tme I've ever heard Brian reference a few specific songs, including this one.

I do think "My Solution" is mostly just Brian and co. having some fun, although some of it may have been something Brian had sitting around as an idea. Still, if it is mostly a toss-off, 'tis further proof of Brian's brilliance given the quality of some of the raw aspects of it.

Is Dennis on this song? I feel like folks say he isn't, but I'd swear that's him prominently heard in the "I knew I'd found" parts. Bruce is very audible, too.

There's a 1976 interview where Brian says that My Solution was going to be on Love You...
I sort of wish that it was


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Post by: DonnyL on August 29, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
i just think it's weird they had that same mask that was used in the 'wasn't made for these times' promo !


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Post by: Rocker on August 30, 2012, 05:38:54 AM


I do think "My Solution" is mostly just Brian and co. having some fun, although some of it may have been something Brian had sitting around as an idea. Still, if it is mostly a toss-off, 'tis further proof of Brian's brilliance given the quality of some of the raw aspects of it.


I think it is more like an updated "Monster mash". The verses/spoken parts could've needed more work to it as they don't sound very convincing. But on the whole I think that a finished version would be interesting


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Post by: Banana on August 30, 2012, 10:06:53 AM


I do think "My Solution" is mostly just Brian and co. having some fun, although some of it may have been something Brian had sitting around as an idea. Still, if it is mostly a toss-off, 'tis further proof of Brian's brilliance given the quality of some of the raw aspects of it.


I think it is more like an updated "Monster mash". The verses/spoken parts could've needed more work to it as they don't sound very convincing. But on the whole I think that a finished version would be interesting


Yes!  I was thinking "Monster Mash", too!  If they had actually "worked" on it...I guess it could have been an interesting novelty track.


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Post by: runnersdialzero on August 30, 2012, 10:39:39 AM
Shame they recorded it on Halloween, as it would've been a super cool one off non-album Halloween '45. Backed with "Monster Mash", maybe?


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Post by: Jay on August 30, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
I really hpe that this track is on the box set.


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Post by: Shane on August 31, 2012, 12:15:03 AM
Would anyone take a guess as to what instruments are on this track?  Is it mostly Moog that I'm hearing?


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Post by: joe_blow on September 07, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
So is that the second time Brian painted his face green?


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Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 07, 2012, 09:07:17 AM
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8981/bbhalloween752600.jpg)

I wanted to point out something very specific in the above photo - for those interested in whatever happened to Brian's Smiley Smile era white Baldwin organ, it can be seen peeking out in the background. Look just behind Al and Mike, and you'll see the white music stand-holder from the Baldwin with the x-bracing. So it was still there at the time of this session, and it would be interesting to note how often it was used after 1967. Note too, in the b&w photo, they're leaning on a Leslie speaker, but I'm guessing that was partnered with the Hammond organ which Bruce is sitting at for that airline promo commercial...but I have no idea.

Just to refresh: Has anyone ever determined what happened to that white Baldwin? Did Brian keep it all these years?


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Post by: Rocker on September 08, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Brian on "My solution"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J_n0ITu2qJU#t=239s


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Post by: Generation42 on September 10, 2012, 04:49:42 AM
What a great little record.  Is this the best-sounding version out there?

I'm with Jay, one of my first thoughts after it was done playing was how it would be nice to have a cleaned-up version on the box.

Does anyone have an inkling of how the 'Boys view this piece today?  Is this recording in good-standing with the group?  I mean just how likely is it to see the light of day, considering it was reapportioned by Brian later?

Rocker, that interview is neat-o.  You know, I've noted links to it before during my youtube excursions, but hadn't checked it out until now.  Thank you.


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Post by: chris.metcalfe on September 10, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
I've always thought that the narration sounds like he's reading someone else's script for the first time. An uneasy listen.

That first pic, by the way, looks like Brian's head on a platter.


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Post by: onkster on September 10, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
And it's interesting that they saved that rubber mask from the "That's Not Me" video. (I guess they'd only saved it for what, 3 years or so?)


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Post by: Jay on September 10, 2012, 09:54:12 PM
I wonder how Happy Days came to be? I mean, My Solution is an ultra obscure and weird song to reference from the back catalogue. Did somebody hear it, and mention it to Brian? Or did somebody play it for him? If Brian woke up one morning with the song in his head, then he must have a very "unique" brain.  :lol


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Post by: Rocker on September 11, 2012, 08:31:21 AM
I wonder how Happy Days came to be? I mean, My Solution is an ultra obscure and weird song to reference from the back catalogue. Did somebody hear it, and mention it to Brian? Or did somebody play it for him? If Brian woke up one morning with the song in his head, then he must have a very "unique" brain.  :lol


Well, given that Brian mentioned it in the '77 interview and recorded another backing track for KTSA I guess it wasn't as obscure to him


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Post by: hypehat on September 11, 2012, 08:48:03 AM
Yeah, if JT was pressuring him for another song, he totally could have just pulled the My Solution riff out of his arse and bet that Thomas hadn't heard it before.


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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 11, 2012, 01:11:30 PM
I think Thomas would recall a riff from a song he'd co-produced with Brian back in 1998.


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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 11, 2012, 01:13:33 PM
I wonder how Happy Days came to be? I mean, My Solution is an ultra obscure and weird song to reference from the back catalogue. Did somebody hear it, and mention it to Brian? Or did somebody play it for him? If Brian woke up one morning with the song in his head, then he must have a very "unique" brain.  :lol


Well, given that Brian mentioned it in the '77 interview and recorded another backing track for KTSA I guess it wasn't as obscure to him

Brian's reworking of "Solution" in 1980 wasn't during the KTSA sessions.


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Post by: hypehat on September 11, 2012, 02:06:43 PM
I think Thomas would recall a riff from a song he'd co-produced with Brian back in 1998.

Wait... we're confused. I'm talking about the composition of Happy Days, not something else?


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Post by: Nicko1234 on September 11, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
I think Thomas would recall a riff from a song he'd co-produced with Brian back in 1998.

I think you`re talking at cross purposes to everyone else there...

I suspect that Brian`s management and associates had a lot to do with the songs that were recycled or dredged up around that time like She Says That She Needs Me and The First Time.


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Post by: runnersdialzero on September 11, 2012, 04:26:18 PM
I suspect that Brian`s management and associates had a lot to do with the songs that were recycled or dredged up around that time like She Says That She Needs Me and The First Time.

Speaking of "Happy Days," the opening piano riff was stolen from "Holidays."

I don't understand how things like this happen. Not to further claim Brian isn't in the driver's seat with his own music, but given things we know (wasn't it Darian's idea to bring back the chant that opens "Morning Beat", or insert "Can't Wait Too Long" onto TLOS?), it feels like some songs come about due to Brian's folks digging through his back catalog looking for ideas he can use. I know Brian was known even in the 60s and 70s to pilfer old ideas years after they first came about, but some (definitely not all) of the recent examples seem a little off.

I just can't picture Brian suddenly saying, "I'm gonna bring back 'My Solution' with confessional lyrics about the struggles I've had in my life! And throw a terrible rendition of a piano bit from a Smile piece in the beginning for good measure!" I could be totally wrong, and obviously he went with it either way, but it just doesn't seem like an idear born in his head alone.

"My Solution" was a lot of fun, Brian surely recognizes this, but "Happy Days" is... well, it's definitely not a lot of fun. The end result is just so bad. The ridiculous intro (with non-ridiculous origin) which I can't, for the life of me, understand why it opens the song, the zombie children backup vocals, the "let's change Brian's 'My Solution' rant into it sounding like the voices in his head or something" vocal way in the back of the verse (what the f*** is that guy even saying?), the totally wretched saxophone honking in the verse, and then there's the whole "I'm happy and recovered now except not really" aspect of the lyrics.

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