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No, I ain't talking about 50 Big Ones two-disc deal.  I'm talking about the apparently rebooted (according to AGD), expansive box set that is scheduled to be released on ____________.  What should we expect from it?  To just include all the "hits" would be totally redundant and a complete waste of time considering they're already putting out two new GH compilations and select album re-releases.  So I'm guessing we're going to be treated to an expanded "anthology" album similar to Endless Harmony and Hawthorne, CA.  Maybe featuring new stereo mixes of mono tracks ("Wild Honey", anyone?), unreleased material (that "Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again" that fans won't shut up about) and maybe a live concert or two. 

What are your predictions?

Most of the stuff on PongHit's thread of Boyd-based tantalizing tantalization.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=12489.0

"Brian Plays 'Mt.Vernon And Fairway' In His Bel-Air Home For Reporter Using A Tape Recorder That's In Egypt" (Stereo Mix)

THAT MATT SHARP FALSETTO, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS. Finally.

You gotta tell me what you mean by that. I listened to that thing one time, but I don't recall a Matt Sharp type falsetto.

me neither

Most? Really? The playlist Alan made for me was 86 tracks!

I'm hoping to hear Brian's 1975 piano demo of "In The Back Of My Mind".

I'd like to see The Beach Boys' version of "Seasons In The Sun" included.  It's a wonderful lead from Carl.

A boy can dream, can't he. Pine. WANT.

shart map farsetto

WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA WIBNTLA

Okay, dream time.

I'd love for a box of boxes, which might include but not be limited to (note that this little lot might have overlap and could be augmented with more material; note also that I've employed a fair bit of cut-and-paste from existing online sources, so please forgive any inconsistencies in formatting):

Box one (6 discs): Remastered Surfin' Safari album, with bonus tracks including the material once slated for Brad's First Wave collection and much, much more:

Disc One
1. Surfin' Safari (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
2. County Fair (B. Wilson/Gary Usher   )
3. Ten Little Indians (B. Wilson/Usher)
4. Chug-A-Lug (B. Wilson/Usher/Love)
5. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (Vincent Catalano/Herb Alpert)
6. 409 (B. Wilson/Usher/Love)
7. Surfin' (B. Wilson/Love)
8. Heads You Win - Tails I Lose (B. Wilson/Usher)
9. Summertime Blues (Eddie Cochran/Jerry Capehart)
10. Cuckoo Clock (B. Wilson/Usher)
11. Moon Dawg (Derry Weaver)
12. The Shift (B. Wilson/Love)
13. Cindy, Oh Cindy
14. The Baker Man
15. Land Ahoy (B. Wilson)

Disc 2 (First Wave disc 1, unreleased)
Recorded September 15, 1961
1. Surfin' (demo) 2:24
2. Luau (demo, take 1) 1:37
3. Luau (demo, take 2) 1:39 *
4. Luau (demo, take 3) 1:37 *
5. Lavender (demo, take 1) 2:17 *
6. Lavender (demo, take 2) 1:07 *
7. Lavender (demo, take 3) 2:18 *
8. Lavender (demo, take 4) 2:22 *

Recorded October 3, 1961
9. Surfin' (take 1) 0:16
10. Surfin' (take 2) 2:22
11. Surfin' (take 3) 0:31 *
12. Surfin' (take 4) 2:26 *
13. Surfin' (take 5) 2:25 *
14. Surfin' (take 6) 1:02 *
15. Surfin' (take 7) 2:28 *
16. Surfin' (take 8) 2:21
17. Luau (take 1) 0:20
18. Luau (take 2) 1:51
19. Luau (take 3) 0:29 *
20. Luau (take 5) 0:08 *
21. Luau (take 6) 1:50 *
22. Luau (take 7) 1:51 *
23. Luau (take 8) 0:13 *
24. Luau (take 9) 0:07 *
25. Luau (take 10) 0:22 *
26. Luau (take 11) 1:53 *
27. Luau (take 12) 1:50
28. Lavender (take 1) 0:47 *
29. Lavender (take 2) 1:22 *
30. Lavender (take 4) 2:35 *

Recorded February 8, 1962
31. Surfin' Safari (take 3) 0:30 *
32. Surfin' Safari (take 4) 2:18 *
33. Surfin' Safari (take 5) 0:27 *
34. Surfin' Safari (take 6) 2:18 *
35. Surfin' Safari (take 10) 2:07 *
36. Surfin' Safari (overdub take 1 on take 6) 2:24
37. Surfin' Safari (overdub take 2 on take 10) 2:17
38. Surfin' Safari (stereo overdub on take 6) 2:06
39. Surfin' Safari (mono single mix) 2:01


Disc 3 (First Wave disc 2, unreleased)
Recorded February 8, 1962
1. Surfer Girl (take 1) 2:02 *
2. Surfer Girl (take 2) 2:48 *
3. Surfer Girl (take 3) 1:33 *
4. Surfer Girl (take 4) 2:24 *
5. Surfer Girl (take 5) 1:54 *
6. Surfer Girl (take 6) 2:18 *
7. Surfer Girl (overdub take 1 on take 4) 2:33
8. Judy (take 1) 2:18 *
9. Judy (take 2) 2:35 *
10. Judy (overdub take 1 on take 2) 2:29
11. Judy (overdub take 2 on take 2) 2:41
12. Beach Boy Stomp (take 1) 1:34 *
13. Beach Boy Stomp (rehearsal fragment) 0:25 *
14. Beach Boy Stomp (take 2) 1:01 *
15. Beach Boy Stomp (overdub take 1 on take 1) 1:32 *
16. Beach Boy Stomp (overdub take 2 on take 1) 1:38

Recorded March 8, 1962
17. Barbie (overdub take 1) 2:36 *
18. Barbie (overdub take 2) 0:16 *
19. Barbie (overdub take 3) 0:23 *
20. Barbie (overdub take 4) 1:08 *
21. Barbie (overdub take 5) 1:53 *
22. Barbie (overdub take 6) 2:41
23. Barbie (overdub take 7) 2:45
24. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 1) 2:55 *
25. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 2) 1:58 *
26. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 3) 0:18 *
27. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 4) 2:23 *
28. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 5) 2:24
29. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (overdub take 6) 2:23
30. Barbie (mono single mix) 2:22
31. What Is A Young Girl Made Of? (mono single mix) 2:11

* Previously unreleased
Recordings produced by Hite Morgan, 1961-62.
Compilation produced by Brad Elliott.
Assembly, editing and mastering by Steve Hoffman.

Disc 4:
Tracks originally released on Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 1 (1962), The Alternate Surfin' Safari Album
All tracks stereo, except * = mono.

1.   Summertime Blues (inst. takes 1 and 2) 1:39
2.   Summertime Blues (inst. take 3) 2:32 *
3.   Summertime Blues (inst. take 4) 2:36 *
4.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, takes 5/6) 3:03 *
5.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, takes 6/7) 3:07 *
6.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, take 8) 2:18 *
7.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, take 9) 1:09 *
8.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, take 10) 1:16
9.   Summertime Blues (overdub 1, take 11) 1:22
10. Summertime Blues (overdub 1, take 12) 2:19 *
11. Heads You Win, Tails I Lose (overdub 1, take 13) 1:55
12. Heads You Win, Tails I Lose (overdub 1, take 14) 1:57
13. Heads You Win, Tails I Lose (overdub 1, take 17) 2:30 *
14. Land Ahoy (inst. take 1) 1:53 *
15. Land Ahoy (overdub 1, takes 2/3) 1:47 *
16. Land Ahoy (overdub 1, take 4) 1:50 *
17. Land Ahoy (overdub 1, take 5) 1:49
18. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (inst. takes 1-2) 1:46
19. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (inst. takes 3-8) 2:34
20. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (inst. takes 9-11) 1:23
21. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (inst. takes 9-11) 0:50
22. Little Girl (You're My Miss America) (inst. take 15) 2:12
23. County Fair (inst.) 2:24
24. County Fair (overdub 2, take13) 2:31
25. Cuckoo Clock (inst.) 2:15
26. Cuckoo Clock (overdub 2, take12) 2:20
27. The Surfer Moon (inst. take 1) 2:59  9/13/62
28. The Surfer Moon (inst. take 2) 0:44
29. The Surfer Moon (inst. take 3) 2:46
30. Cindy, Oh Cindy (inst. take 1) 0:44
31. Cindy, Oh Cindy (inst. takes 2-4) 1:58
32. Cindy, Oh Cindy (inst. take 5-7) 2:36 *
33. Cindy, Oh Cindy (inst. take 8) 1:00
34. Cindy, Oh Cindy (vocal take) 2:04

Disc 5:  tracks originally released on the unofficial SoT release Garage Tapes/IN THE BEGINNING
1962 RECORDING SESSION WITH GARY USHER
FIRST RECORDED AUDIO FROM 1960

1. One Way Road To Love Takes 4-6 3:22
2. One Way Road To Love Vocal Session 2:54
3. One Way Road To Love Vocal Overdub Take 2 2:16
4. The Beginning Of The End Takes 1-5 2:53
5. The Beginning Of The End Take 6 1:48
6. The Beginning Of The End Vocal Overdub on Take 9a 3:30
7. The Beginning Of The End Vocal Overdub on Take 9b 3:28
8. The Beginning Of The End Guitar Overdub Attempt 1:45
9. Visions Take 1 2:19
10. Visions Take 2 2:40
11. My Only Alibi Take 1 3:07
12. My Only Alibi Take 2 2:29
13. Summertime Vocal Overdub 1:56
14. Mother May 2:23
15. The Big Beat 2:21
16. Marie 2:21
17. Funny Boy 2:56
18. Runaway With You 1:54
19. Unknown Instrumental 2:20
20. In My Room Takes 3-12 3:06
21. Hawaii Takes 1-4 3:05
22. Hawaii Take 5 2:08
23. Hawaii Takes 6-9 2:23
24. Your Summer Dream Take 1 1:29
25. Good Humour Man Takes 1-3 2:21
26. Rabbit’s Foot Takes 1-2 1:17
27. The Surfer Moon Vocal Overdub Session 3:11
28. Little Saint Nick Takes 2b-5b 4:17
29. Little Saint Nick Take 6b 2:07

Disc 6:  tracks originally released on the unofficial SoT release Garage Tapes/THE GARAGE TAPES
PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED OUTTAKES FROM 1963

1. Surfin’ 0:53
2. Surfin’ (edit) 2:56
3. Surfin’ 3:03
4. Surfin’ 2:57
5. Surfin’ 1:13
6. Surfin’ 1:15
7. Surfin’ 2:28
8. Surfin’ 4:22
9. Bermuda Shorts 2:25
10. Bermuda Shorts 1:58
11. Sloop John B 2:27
12. Good News 2:34
13. Hully Gully 2:44
14. Happy Birthday Dear Freshmen 1:12
15. Dream 0:45
16. Dennis Is A Prick 2:23
17. Ipana Toothpaste 0:46
18. To Spend One Night With You 0:35
19. Brian At The Piano 0:42
20. July 18th Celebration 0:56
21. Murry Wilson On The Phone 1:18
22. White Christmas 0:55
23. Screwing Around 4:54
24. Spanish Practice 4:47
25. Brian’s Book Report 0:22
26. Vocal Rehearsals 0:43
27. Murry Directs Brian At The Organ 1:41

Box 2: 2 Discs
Carnegie Hall, New York, November 23, 1972
Sloop John B
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
Leaving This Town
Darlin'
Only With You
Heroes And Villains
Long Promised Road
Don't Worry Baby
Student Demonstration Time
I Get Around
Marcella
California Saga
Help Me, Rhonda
Medley: Wonderful/Don't Worry Bill
God Only Knows
Do It Again
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Wild Honey
Good Vibrations
Surfin' U.S.A
Fun, Fun, Fun
Jumpin' Jack Flash

Personnel:
Dennis Wilson (vocals/piano/electric piano/organ/synth)
Carl Wilson (vocals/guitar/electric piano)
Mike Love (vocals/tambourine/theremin
Al Jardine (vocals/guitar)
Blondie Chaplin (vocals/guitar/bass/tambourine)
Ricky Fataar (vocals/drums/flute/pedal steel guitar)

Sidesmen
Toni Tennille (piano/electric piano)
Daryl Dragon (organ/synth/piano/vibes)
Ed Carter (bass/guitar/congas)
Mike Kowalski (drums/timbales/tambourine/sleighbells/bass) (poss Dennis Dragon but unlikely)

Please feel free to add…

A few live shows would be perfect. Especially if they include CCW, Wild Honey, Surf's Up, You Need A Mess Of Help, Feel Flows +maybe more WH-Holland songs or any early 70's Dennis songs!  :afro

Love yer work   :bow :rock  - disc 2, 3 & 4 for me, please

They release anything like that, you won't believe the bitching you'll hear from me.

So it needs a little paring down... a little trimming, accuracitising. Maybe needs a BBs historian to advise and assist....

Ask not what your record company can do for you, but what you can do for your record company. ;D

why is that?

AGD if you know can you give us a hint?

Because any of us who have collected even a 'basic' set of boots could put together a much more interesting collection.

Dang, they are most likely in the midst of still putting this set together. Let's be patient.

 It be a disaster to get 17 versions/takes/mixes of "Surfin" when there are 100's of unreleased songs/musical pieces/alternate versions. Besides Carnegie Hall, New York, November 23, 1972, I have little, little interest in this early material save for what Alan Boyd or AGD would consider essential.

I agree about al the Surfin tracks, but I'd take anything at this point!

A lawsuit and a 50 page thread.

Maybe a few more nuggets from Adult Child and Landlocked; more delicious backing tracks and vocals-only mixes...maybe some sessions here and there.

Oh and - if it's gonna be another career retrospective of hits and such, like the 1993 box set, please include 'Let Him Run Wild'. Thank you. :)

Al Jardine told me they were recording some new tracks for the box set, ie - Waves of Love.  And some slowed down redos from "Radio".  Course, he said it was called "50 Big Ones" so who knows..............

He also said "WIBNTLA" wasn't on it and didn't remember the song.  He said he'd check on it as I told him us fans were dying for it.

Haven't heard if Alan Boyd has recovered but I hope he is involved.

If it doesn't include "wild honey" in stereo I'll download it illegally out of anger

Each boxed set will include Matt Jardine, suitable for framing.

Love to hear that whole album in stereo!  Hoping that will come!

I think our best bet for box set news are AGDs cryptic hints.  He will know what's coming when it comes together.  Obviously, he can't divulge full details or he'd never be intrusted with advance info again.
Took me a while to realize that.

Cripies, this was a jokey post outlining just a few discs out of a dream box set of box sets, a few cut-&-paste tracklists from known boots with an invitation to add more. Took several minutes, perhaps less to throw together…

I should have set a limit, eg 160 discs, not a disc more.    ::)

The funny thing is I secretly crave to listen to those 17 different versions of "Surfin" ;)

This was posted on the Both Sides Now Stereo Board (not by me):

A new Beach Boys Career Spanning Box Set will be released on November 19th. EUR 140, containing 6 CDs.  Does anyone know details or tracklists? I couldn't find any information.

6? Egad. Guess if it's not a hoax we'll get a press release imminently?

Hmm…

Already listed at CDon.eu (EU179.95), CDon.dk (1379kr), CDon.no (1499kr), CDon.se (1679kr)…

Catalog number: EMI-50999 -2323452

These sites have November 21 as release date.

Looks like I know what I'll be asking the family for as a Christmas gift this year.

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Nope as in you don't know, or Nope as in you can't give us a hint?   ;D

Of course not: remember, The Cohen Of Silence...

Guess.


Paging Mr. Cohen... Paging Mr. Cohen... Large order of humble pie at the front desk for you.

6 discs allows for more rarities amongst the "career spanning" tracks we've already bought a million times before, so that's good, I guess. Would be even better if it was 6 discs of just rare and unreleased. Then I'd really get a woody.

It says "career-spanning", not "woodys for geeks".  ;D

Consider: the 1993 box was 4CDs (plus the 'boot' disc). There hasn't been a whole 80-minute CD of new releases since then, much less two, so I'm guessing there's going to be ample archive material. Whether or not it'll all be new to the likes of us is, of course, another thing entirely, and something I wouldn't care to speculate on.

I have a good idea of what this box will include, thanks to common sence and our friend AGD's very interesting posts.


It's gonna be quite what you'd expect.
We will get rarities though....

I love when this happens...right out of the blue..

6 discs  :rock :rock

It's going to essentially state the case that The Beach Boys are the best fucking thing ever, isn't it? Which means all the hits. I reckon it'll be a supercharged version of the Good Vibrations boxset - we have another disc worth of material to fill and only two or three more compulsory things to put in after Kokomo....

.

I'm not particularly obsessed with whether this box set arrives or not. But if it is released, those audiophiles on the forum will undoubtedly tell us whether there are static crackles, clipping distortion, "Loudness Wars" mastering or mastering-releated digital drop-outs. I await the verdict from the "experts".

But don't expect Capitol to correct these problems if they occur. There were two very noticeable problems with the previous box set("Good Vibrations:30 Years of The Beach Boys"): Two nasty speed fluctuations on "Do You Like Worms?" & lopping off several notes of the guitar intro on the single version of "Cottonfields". Capitol never corrected either problem.

In any event, the 12 album reissues, the two hits compilations & the box set are apparently the last hurrah for Beach Boys archival projects. I hope not, but Mr.Doe has implied that the well will soon run dry.

As for the problem that I encountered on the Japan CD of "Summer Days...and Summer Nights!", at least it occurred on a song and mix that can be obtained on another Capitol CD; a CD that is already in my collection.

From what I understand, that was purely to do with the sources - Worms was sourced from a dodgy acetate and thus wobbled (and it has been corrected, if you ever got TSS), and those notes simply were not on the Cotton Fields mono master. They obviously still exist on the multitracks.

I can not wait until we get the tracklisting. This is what I've been waiting all year for.

Gotta admire the dude's consistency. Gloomy, gloomier and gloomiest - man could mess up a wet dream.  ;D

Beg to differ, but they did and they do - check out the original 45.

Amen. I hope we hear soon.

Correct, and those guitar notes are also there on "Beach Boys Rarities" & in the stereo remix on "Hawthorne,Ca."

Yes, "Worms" was corrected in "the Smile Sessions" box, but never corrected in later production runs of "Good Vibrations:30 Years of The Beach Boys". And by the way, those two releases of "Do You Like Worms" differ in several ways. Each contains material that is not in the other, but, the configuration of segments heard in "the Smile Sessions" is a shorter version than the one on "Good Vibrations:30 Years of The Beach Boys".

This could be the greatest box set ever..

It HAS to be done right.

Regardless of what's on it and how it sounds and what's planned for the future, why do I get the feeling that the end result will STILL be:

Dear Capitol,

I wish to register a complaint.

(http://cdn4.static.ovimg.com/m/04yq6_/%3Fwidth%3D150)

There are some teasing posts on the Hoff board.  Truth or lies?  Someone spilling the beans befoe they should? Presumably to be followed by denial...  We've had that before.  Someone talking out of their ass? Or not?

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=156227&page=4

Since it's career spanning, will it have any tracks from Summer in Paradise?
One can only guess what they'll be.

Well, of course they're on the 45 otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion! I was under the impression that when they went to compile the GV box, they were missing. I think I read that in Mark or Alan's thread? A quick search throws up a post.....


 ;D

So... if the notes were on the original 45, they had to be on the master as well, otherwise how could we have noticed they were missing when we heard the box ?

I should have probably said 'not there any more', that's true. Wonder why they've been snipped..... if they were snipped?

I hope -- assuming they include all the unreleased material from the Good Vibes box -- they fix the speed of "It's Over Now."

Really? Better than TSS?
We'll just have to see then.

Anyone else thinking that all the two-fer bonus tracks will be on the box set? I say this as there are no bonus tracks on the new remasters.

Just read this after going to Smilin' Ed's link to the Hoff:

"BTW, a Japanese Blu-Spec double-CD of PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE/BAMBU will be released on July 4th and features a 2012 remastering job."

Never heard about this. Anybody here pick up this release yet?

Saw it on eBay, all of the non-Brian solo stuff was remastered.

POB needs to be remixed, not so much remastered...

Yeah. I've thought the exact same thing.

People are bitching that there are no bonus tracks on these new remasters, but frankly, I find bonus tracks just get in the way of the actual album. I'll be very surprised if their not in the boxset.

Got this recently, I've not listened to the discs yet, it seems to be the same release as the Legacy edition but in mini LP packaging.  With my hi-fi set up (and ears) I can't hear difference between 'normal' CDs and the 'Blu Spec' ones.  Not sure on the 2012 remastering, can't remember that being referred to on the packaging.  Most of it is in Japanese however....

Back on topic with the box set whilst I would love to see a 'rarities/unreleased' only set I'm happy that the band is getting a (hopefully) 'definitive' box set across 6 discs.

Can't wait to see content/packaging!!!  As soon as details emerge my partner will get the Xmas present hints :D

That's what I figured.  Thanks.

Johnny Cash is getting a new box set of all his Columbia albums.... Makes the theoretical BBs album idea look workable - it'd be fewer albums and arguably just as saleable.

I know it now looks like we're getting a six CD set but this shows an alternate path that coulda been travelled; or perhaps even a complementary path...

http://theseconddisc.com/2012/08/20/the-fabulous-and-complete-johnny-cash-legacy-announces-columbia-album-collection/

"She had a perfect hourglass figure. Gorgeous face. Long, luxuriant blonde hair. Unfortunately, her left ankle seemed a little wobbly. I had a feeling it couldn't be corrected with surgery. I woke up screaming".

Since the GV box is going out of print and the 2fer bonus tracks will become unavailable, it's a safe bet most or all of the bonus tracks on those CD's will be appear on the new box.  With 6 CD's to fill, how much previously unavailable complete songs can they find to fill those?  The answer is . . . they can't, so the question is what they will fill up the rest of the box with.  I suspect:  session excerpts and instrumental takes, alternate mixes, vocals only tracks, and LIVE material.

If they decided to cover the 1969-1979 era in detail, it would be very easy to locate complete, unreleased songs.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got some more Smile stuff, e.g. Barnyard without flown in vocals, stereo remixes of Cabin Essence etc.

Well if the box set is to be career spanning you'd have to expect there would be some "SMiLE" in there.  I'd like to hear that mix of CIFOTM that was slated for "Hawthorne" but didn't make the cut on last year's "SMiLE" box. 

I hope that doesn't happen. I have those tracks already, as I'm sure most folk here do also. I'd rather have material that's fresh to our ears, even if it's limited to different (vintage) mixes of known tracks etc.

I assumed it will be a mixture of things that we all already own and things that have never been released (through official channels, anyway), so it's perfectly possible to include some or all of those bonus tracks along with things that we don't have.

+1

Box listed at amazon.co.de for pre-order as an import.

Yeah personally I'm cool if they don't put previously released rarities on there. Therefore, no "Soulful Old Man Sunshine" or "Lonely Days" or whatever. However, if there are previously unreleased versions of things, like another version of "Can't Wait Too Long" or the aforementioned mix of "Child Is Father Of The Man", then I'm all for those being released. But besides that, I'd hope that all other stuff is previously unreleased, because there are a lot of really cool unreleased things that are there to be chosen from.

Realistically, I'm thinking we'll get a half, to maybe 3/4ths a disc's worth of "new" (previously officially unreleased) material. There has to be room for everything else - hits, album tracks, many of the things on the GV box simply need to be on a career spanning box. I'd venture to guess maybe a little less SMiLE material this time around.

We definitely need a new version of Can't Wait Too Long.  One is decent, but omits the tag.  The other includes the tag, but to get to it, you need to listen to "can't wait too long, can't wait too long baby ..." repeated for what seems like eternity.  How about a version that is the best of both worlds?

I'm hoping they gear this set a little more towards the diehard fanbase personally.  The casuals already are getting two different formats of which to choose from.  The box set should be marketed towards the folks on this forum just like the SMiLE box set was.

Link please? I can't find it :(

For Cabinessence, Capitol has the multitrack for the instruments and for the 1966 vocals, but they don't have the multitrack for the 1968 vocal overdub session(where Carl & Dennis' vocals were added)

http://www.amazon.de/Career-Spanning-Box-Beach-Boys/dp/B008XZKSRY/ref=sr_1_6?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1345607952&sr=1-6

So judging by that listing, the box will be titled Made In California. I like it.

And the price on amazon.de is 175.99 Euros. Which translates to about $219.39. Yowza. As long as it brings the goods though, I'm in.

Thanks for adding that - when I found it last night the link wouldn't work properly and when I did get through the set was imaginatively titled "Career Spanning Box Set"!

On the price, note that it's listed as an import, probably from the US, hence hike. The EU domestic release and the US domestic will probably come in a lot cheaper in their own territories.

I totally dig the name...very simple and effective.  Can't wait to see the tracklist.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

"MADE IN CALIFORNIA"

Tasteful, Marketable, and True.
I love it.

GIVE IT TO US SOON CAPITOL. MY FUNDS ARE ALMOST VIABLE.

175,99 for a 6 CD set? That's almost 30 euros per CD, which is twice the price of a regular CD. So if that's really the price, I'm guessing the box will have more than just the CDs. Maybe a book and/or some vinyl, just like in the Smile Sessions box?

Price dropped radically now - to 80,99

If any powers-that-be are reading this and the track lineup is not already set in stone (which I'm sure it is), PLEASE include among the unreleased tracks the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track that Dennis recorded. SUCH A GREAT SONG. PLEEEASE!!

So it won't feature tracks from "Holland"! :-D

Release date two days before my birthday.

… or any contributions from Jardine and Johnston?  ;D

Sorry, but I just have to be annoying and point out that Sail On, Sailor was recorded in California.

Smile AD 4.0 has got the best Cabin mix one can get. Stereo tracka and stereo 1966 vocal harmonies and Carl/Dennis mono lead/insert in the middle. works out just perfectly. But would be nice for something like that to be released, it is a gem which sounds better in stereo imo.

I'm hoping that there's more going on that what amazon.de has listed. Are they really going to just let a bunch of their albums go out of print?

So the price went down from 140 to 80 €? As much as it is redundant and overpriced I like box sets with great packaging, lots of gimmicks and some coffee table booklet. Is it confirmed that all 6 discs are audio format? Maybe they will be some DVD. I don't care that much for remixes or live stuff (for that I still hope for beachboyscentral to surface). I want some if not all unreleased songs and non album singles and one CD dedicated to Dennis.  :thumbsup

I seriously wouldn't worry that much. I'm sure the rest of the albums will be re-released. I can't see why they'd let over half of their catalogue go out of print for no reason. They'll all be out soon enough I'd think. They just aren't putting them all out at once.

Maybe some extensive session notes like C-man did for TSS?  To me, that would make it worth while.

I'm getting to the point where I hope we hear something like today or tomorrow, now that this is showing up on Amazon!

Yeah, back when the two-fers came out I remember having to wait a few months for each new set of cds. i think They released four cds (that's eight albums) at a time. Those were the days...

Hey!  It's coming out only 3.5 months before my birthday.  Everyone, look at me!
:)

Patience, children... Patience.

The previous projects have all been well worth the wait, and I see no reason why the new box should be any different. Capitol are indeed doing it right this time.

And pissing off someone into the bargain: does it get any better ?  ;D

Really excited for the new box, the BBs and capitol have been really good to us.

Tell me about it. When I think about all the things we have received and what is still to come it blows my mind.

Agree, they are obviously wanting to divide the releases, so that many will pick up the new issues of the albums now, then in 1/2 a year or so they will put new mixes of WH/Friends/20-20/ CATP/Holland and perhaps even 15BO/Love You/MIU/LA

where are you Phil?  :lol

what an amazing piece of writing. I mean that.

What bonus tracks are we talking here? like the Little Girl I Once Knew (since it was a single and not on an album?) or early cuts of songs like Dance Dance Dance, I'm So Young, Don't Back Down?

Probably "Can't Wait Too Long", "Walk On By", "Old Folks At Home/Old Man River", "Celebrate The News", "I Do", etc.

Will SIP and Stars and Stripes be included?

My pick for those would be-
-Lahaina Aloha
-Hot Fun in the Summertime
-Strange Things Happen
-Summer in Paradise (MAYBE)

-Caroline No
-Warmth of the Sun
-In My Room
-Sail On Sailor
-Don't Worry Baby
-I can Hear Music

and 'Leaving This Town'.

I doubt anything off SIP will be included as they seem to be pretending that it doesn't exist, for example the tour program shows the covers for all albums, including Stars & Stripes, up to the Smile Sessions but SIP is nowhere to be found.

oh dear lord, please, no !

Having them as bonus tracks on the albums wasn't the worst thing in the world, even if they weren't part of the original album. I hope they stay in circulation one way or another.

it would be so much better to include unreleased songs from this period instead. and I suspect that's what we'll see !

i'm started to get way too excited about this box! i feel an announcement coming on soon.

dreams of 'lazy lizzie', 'wouldn't it be nice to live again', 'dancin the night away' ... dreams of BRILLIANT SONGS THAT NONE OF US HAVE EVER HEARD OF !

Is Stars & Stripes even worth listening to? I have a copy, but just can't bring myself to listen. My tolerance for modern country is extremely limited, and the idea of the guys backing modern country singers on modern country arrangements doesn't sound appealing.

Know what would be cool? A track that's an edit of all/the more interesting backing vocals performed by Brian, Carl, Mike, Al and Bruce on this album. No country singers, no country arrangements, just highlights of the very last recordings of "the blend".

It's worth at least one listen. It's not offensively bad, just pretty mediocre. A handful of tracks, especially "Caroline, No" are really good.

Given all the collections and re-issues coming out just prior to the box set, I'm expecting the new box set to be HEAVY on rarities and unissued material- much more so than the earlier box set was. Capitol knows they have to come through with something exciting to ask for that kind of bread.

WANT

Cool, I've heard good things about this version of "Caroline, No" before. I'll give it a listen (I GUESS), even if the premise alone is still a drag. Last Beach Boys album with Carl Wilson! Last Beach Boys vocals featuring Carl Wilson! But he's backing Toby Keith.

Alan Boyd showed Ponghit that earlier this year. 8)

Doubtful.  We probably won't hear much about this until maybe a month before it comes out.  Don't want to cut in on GH compilations and album re-releases.  Although I have no problem being wrong about this...  :-)


Never heard of 'em.   ::)

You can already hear a lot of that with the Nashville Sounds documentary they released (twice!) on DVD back in the 90's. 

Haven't seen that, thanks for the heads up.

Still, having a proper CD edit would be nice and certainly deserves a release. imo.

Of course you aren't.

Phil, let me make one thing clear:  I'm not one of the people who keeps gunning for you.  I have, as far as I can tell, never responded critically to you on these boards at all.  But I want to say something to you.

In the space of about twelve months, they've put out:  a comprehensive Smile Sessions box set, a new album, two different Greatest Hits, a whole stack of remastered albums, and a second career-spanning box-set.  That's approximately twenty-eight discs of Beach Boys material.  More Beach Boys stuff than I think anyone has ever put out, ever, in a similar length of time.

You said the Smile Sessions box set would never come out.

You said the new album would never come out.

You said the Greatest Hits would never come out.

You said the remastered albums would never come out.

Even after the remastered albums came out in Japan, you said the remastered albums would never come out.

You said the box set would never come out.

You never gave the slightest indication that you felt your statements were in any way doubtful.



Look at your life, man.  Look at your choices.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

I actually dig "409" from Stars and Stripes/Nashville Sounds with Junior Brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qsYreBJZE

I think the snippets you hear on these DVDs will suffice.  Trust me, you would rather they make room for more interesting stuff on the box set.  :-)

I like Willy Nelson's Warmth of the Sun too

I'm looking at you. And now?

Oh yes, right, I forgot. But you're wrong about one thing: I'm NOT annoyed. ;D

Maybe they could just do a 12 second medley of songs from KTSA, BB85, Still Cruisin', SIP and Stars and Stripes.

Yeah, it’s funny to see it listed out like that. Well, look at it this way: Phil’s got quite a streak going. A no-hitter in fact, and it’s now at least the seventh inning. I almost wonder if deep in his subconscious, he’s afraid to “jinx” things by allowing himself even a smidgeon of hope. I used to be a Red Sox fan (before moving to Baltimore), and I remember how I allowed myself zero hope, even with two outs in game four, until that ball landed safely in Doug Mientkiewicz’ glove (and no, I didn’t even have to look that up, expect the spelling).

So I’m with you Phil. This blasted box set ain’t never gonna happen! Mark our words!

What will be on the new box ?  Consider this.

In 1993, the fan world was consulted: we were urged to send in our fantasy set lists for a 4CD box, and a lot of us did. Exactly how much did that influence the final product ? More than you'd imagine. and aside from the fan lists, were it not for the personal intervention of some high-level fans, the box would have lacked "All This Is That" as well as having the incorrect version of at least one charting single (similarly, The Fairytale was almost left off the CATP/Holland 2fer until someone made a fuss and pointed out that the projected Brother Rarities 2CD set where it was slated to appear wasn't set in stone).

Time and technology has moved on: the interested parties no longer need to solicit lists when they can eavesdrop on forums and directly email people whose opinion is, rightly or wrongly, considered of some import. Or, in plain English, Capitol et al have doubtless noted our demands for selected archive tracks and/or rarities and, given that the upcoming box is a 6CD set married with an atmosphere or reconciliation, I'd personally be surprised if those tracks we've demanded most vociferously haven't been at the very least considered. This is the last time such a project can be done on this scale and above all properly. Thus far, Capitol have been batting 1.000: I hope we're in for a few treats.

Of course, I realise that some here will fine-comb the post I've just made and divine that I know what will be included and am further torturing young master Cohen by keeping this knowledge to myself (a small pleasure, but one of my few). Actually, it's mostly the product of logical thinking lightly frosted with some wishful thinking.  :)

Who are you again? I know Richard James Doe posts here sometimes, the guy that runs the Bellagio site, but I don't think I've ever heard of any Andrew G Doe before...

Thank you for your surprisingly gentle reassurance, Mr. Doe. I'll be optimistic. But just this once!

Worry not who I am: just accept that I am.  :old

I'm trying a new approach: seems my usual stance of "I know and you don't, so STFU" was perceived as a tad antagonistic. Don't see it myself, but hey, I'm good to try something new.  ;D

The new Doe is aiming for understanding, tenderness and brotherly love.

He's turning into Mike Love.

Wow - spoilers!  The clues are there -  you just have to sift through to get 'em:

fantasy = Fantasy is Reality/Bells of Madness
Imagine = live version of the Lennon classic, lead by Mike see (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmH2wHTQZ8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmH2wHTQZ8))
solicit = Beatrice from Baltimore
parties = Beach Boys Party! outtakes (Ruby Baby, Satisfaction etc)
6 x married = Mike Love solo rarities!
1.000 = 10,000 Years
divine = It's Like Heaven
frosted = Frosty the Snowman (carburetor mix)

Mad as a box of very mad frogs.  :ahh

OH sh*t

Ok that's funny

Great post.


Greatest post.

So you actually do know what will be on the box, is that what you're trying to say?  ;)

I'm trying to say what I think.

I think.

there is an "unofficial" release out called stars and stripes stripped that comes close to what you just asked for. had some bleed thru of the lead vocals but mostly just the background blend. i'm sure one can find it....

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

The tracklisting will be released shortly after the 2 CD GH comp comes out.  They want to make sure we buy the deluxe hits comp to get the single version of "Isn't It Time" BEFORE they tell us that it will be on the box set, naturally.   >:D

While it's great that there are fans who get listened to on these sorts of issues, the fact that we did get a CD reissue of "Mount Vernon & Fairway" but missed out on a 2CD set of Brother Rarities does rather make it look like we won a battle but lost the war.



Why not just buy the single?

Heh, I hear ya. But it's not even that so much as the remasters. I've preordered all but 3 of 'em, so watch now a day later they announce they'll all be included in a box set...

And it'll be an alternate version to entice the completist collectors.

I'm nervous just thinking about the moment they release the tracklisting and I have to scan over the contents of the six discs just to see if they've included "WIBNTLA."

O.K. Great title. IMO ALL of the Dennis/Dragon vault material should be included, finished or not (not enough for  a dedicated album, so may be last chance unless the future holds a DW solo retrospective, a distant/distinct possibility). Hope band members who absorbed his estate permissions to absolve outstanding debts will agree that that's the high road, and programmers will concur. Not holding my breath. Thank You (For Your Love), Solar System (backing vocals only), Our Sweet Love " " ", Slip On Through backing vocals only, Cottonfields vocals only, Break Away " " ", In The Back of My Mind re-recording, I've Got A Friend instr. track, CA Feeling '74, WIBNTLA, and a particular Pet Sounds-era track (vague, I know, name escapes me), that's supposed to be esp. terrific, BARE MINIMUM! Unreleased, unreleased & more unreleased, as is undoubtedly planned. Will be much more material than this of course but these are ESSENTIAL must-hears. Oh, and The Flame's 2nd album (probably have to keep hoping & waiting for it's own dedicated release, may never happen....). Anticipation overfloweth!

Eh. Don't need/want backing vocals only - unless it's one or two out of all the tracks, which I'd be OK with.

I definitely agree about the DW/Dragon music.  I thought that the Taylor Hawkins lead vocal added to "Holy Man" worked very well on the POB/Bambu release and it'd be nice if they could do something like that for "I've Got a Friend" (as well as the original instrumental track).  I doubt that it'll happen, but it would be nice.

It would also be nice to see one of the CDs contain the "Adult Child" track in their intended running order.  It would take up less than half a disc, so hopefully there would be additional things before or after on the same disc, but since the album was more or less complete, it seems possible to do it that way.  At the very least, I'd like to see "Life is for the Living," "Everybody Wants to Live," and "It's Trying to Say."

No way does the set include an entire album straight through.  Pet Sounds didn't even get that in '93, and won't now--and Adult Child is no Pet Sounds. 

Why waste valuable space with the likes of Hey Little Tomboy, Deep Purple and On Broadway?  Or even the 4 songs that were already on the GV set?  That space could go to something unbooted and unreleased.

Beg to differ, the backing vocals-only material is some of the BEST material there is IMO, some incredible stuff. Our Sweet Love features a revelatory verse by Brian at the end that was buried in the Sunflower mix.

I agree.  The Beach Boys are one of the only bands I can think of where I'd eat up any vocals-only or backing track releases.  It's a testimony to Brian's genius and it's worthy of our attention.

Please Let Me Wonder backing vocals would be very much appreciated, for starters.

It might have been revelatory, but it was definitely the right decision not to include that Brian bit IMO.
But I agree, backing vocals/vocals only, I'm all for it. But of course, unreleased/unbooted before anything.

Is the omitted vocal really "revelatory" in some way, or is it just "revelatory" in that it's not on the final? I don't baunderstand.

It was Brian singing the Formula for the human genome, years before the laggard scientists cracked it.

BEHBEHBUHBEHBEHBEH

Just because it wasn't in the final version, really. It's not like he suddenly showed the world that he could do five-part harmony all by himself at the same time (with no studio trickery/pentuple tracking, I mind you), and in fact the rest of the Beach Boys never really existed.

Ah, awright. I wasn't sure if Brian suddenly busted out into "WHAAAAT WOULD I BEEEEE WITHOOOOOOOOOOOOOU" or something interesting like that.

 :lol

...or the geographical co-ordinates for the location of the Lost Ark of the Covenant?

The mind boggles.

Do you mind me asking if this version of Our Sweet Love (with the revelatory Brian vocal) is included on a footwear release and if so which one (or ones) as I am curious.  Thanks in advance to those who are in the know for sharing their knowledge.

Haha, I had to think twice on what you meant by a footwear release, but you can find it on the 2CD version of 'From The Vaults' and 'Get the footwear Vol. 1'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rH4NH6MW98

Thanks Tansen and EgoHanger!

"Revelatory" was perhaps an imperfect choice of words, sarcasm not required. It's a very relaxed, assured, beautifully sung verse that hits a particularly sweet spot IMO, high in my personal pantheon of BB musical moments. I always add it now when I'm listening or singing along with the song.

There's a PLMW take that has long circulated where Chuck Britz mixes down the instruments and lead vocal in the 2nd verse and chorus, which is one of the most spine-tingling moments available. A whole album of nothing but these kinds of mixes would not be too much IMO. I think it's still on youTube as "Amazing vocal session".

That is the very audio clip which was a revelation for me many years ago, even in its primitive form. To be able to hear that in pristine quality would be a privilege.

I've seen that before and yet I still cannot comprehend its existence.

If anyone could do this, it would be Brian!!

Masterfully said, Lord Mr. Doe!  Masterfully said.  Sir, I take my hat off to you!

 :hat

That certainly WOULD be nice...but as of now, no one has asked me to provide session notes for this release.  :(  Not that there's no one else equally qualified to do it, so maybe someone of such qualifications WILL.  I just haven't heard one way or another.

And to be fair, extensive session notes really deserve their own, stand-alone book.  Ahem.

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