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Title: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: shelter on August 08, 2012, 06:13:54 AM
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Legendary Band’s 50th Anniversary Tour Rolls On with International Dates

Hollywood, California – August 8, 2012 – Celebrating their 50th Anniversary this year, The Beach Boys have performed more than 50 concerts since April and had their highest-ever debut on Billboard’s albums chart in June with their critically acclaimed new studio release, That’s Why God Made The Radio.  The Beach Boys’ 50th Anniversary Tour recently concluded its North American run and is now underway in Europe, and the legendary band is pleased to announce plans for the CD and digital release of two new commemorative hits collections by Capitol/EMI on September 24th outside of North America and on October 9th in North America.  12 remastered Beach Boys studio albums will also be released by Capitol/EMI on September 24th outside of North America and on September 25th in North America. 


The Beach Boys’ new 50th Anniversary Greatest Hits collection features 20 of the band’s most popular songs, including “California Girls,” “Good Vibrations,” “Surfin’ U.S.A.,” “Wouldn’t It Be Nice,” “God Only Knows,” “Kokomo,” their latest single “That’s Why God Made The Radio,” and many more. 


A deluxe, career-spanning 2CD box and digital collection titled Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones will also be released, featuring 50 Beach Boys favorites, including two songs from the band’s new album — the title track “That’s Why God Made The Radio” and a new single version of “Isn’t It Time,” which will be serviced to radio in September.  The 2CD lift-top box package also includes an expanded booklet with newly written liner notes by Rolling Stone contributing editor David Wild and seven postcards.


The 12 Beach Boys studio albums have been digitally remastered by Mark Linett and will be released on CD and digitally, most featuring mono and stereo mixes.  The albums are: Surfin’ U.S.A.; Surfer Girl; Little Deuce Coupe; Shut Down, Volume 2; All Summer Long; The Beach Boys Today!; Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!); Beach Boys Party!; Pet Sounds; Smiley Smile; Sunflower (stereo mix only); and Surf’s Up (stereo mix only).  These releases mark the stereo debut of Smiley Smile and Beach Boys Party!, while The Beach Boys Today! and Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) are being released in stereo for the first time in their entirety.  The new releases include the first-ever stereo mixes of several key Beach Boys classics, including “Good Vibrations,” “Help Me, Rhonda,” “I Get Around,” and “409,” among others.


On September 18th, The GRAMMY Museum in Los Angeles will launch a special Beach Boys 50th Anniversary exhibit with ‘An Evening With The Beach Boys,’ a public event featuring a Q&A and acoustic performance by Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks (www.grammymuseum.org).


A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon.


Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks have reunited this year for a major, international 50th Anniversary Tour and That’s Why God Made The Radio, the first studio album of new, original Beach Boys songs to feature all of the band’s surviving original members since 1989’s Still Cruisin’.  Produced by Brian Wilson and executive produced by Mike Love, the album debuted at #3 on Billboard’s Albums chart and has been received with great excitement and praise from the world’s leading media outlets and fans old and new.  In recent reviews, Rolling Stone hailed the album as “a breezy nostalgia trip” and “deeply touching work,” People magazine praised its “intricately layered, swoon-worthy harmonies,” and the Associated Press said, “The songs harken back to a simpler time when people wore Huarache sandals, polished their surfboards, and raced their hot rods.” 


For five decades, America’s first pop band to reach the 50 year milestone has recorded and performed the music that has become the world’s favorite soundtrack to summer.  Founded in Hawthorne, California in 1961, The Beach Boys were originally comprised of the three teenaged Wilson brothers: Brian, Carl and Dennis, their cousin Mike Love, and school friend Al Jardine.  In 1962, neighbor David Marks joined the group for their first wave of hits with Capitol Records, leaving in late 1963, and in 1965, Bruce Johnston joined the band when Brian Wilson retired from touring to focus on writing and producing for the group. 


The Beach Boys signed with Capitol Records in July 1962 and released their first album, Surfin’ Safari, that same year. The album spent 37 weeks on the Billboard chart, launching the young group known for its shimmering vocal harmonies and relaxed California style into international stardom.  The Wilson/Love collaboration resulted in many huge international chart hits, and under Brian Wilson’s musical leadership, the band’s initial surf-rock focus was soon broadened to include other themes, making The Beach Boys America’s preeminent band of the 1960s.


In 1966, The Beach Boys were one of the first bands to found its own record label with the launch of Brother Records, Inc. (BRI), with the band’s members as its shareholders and Capitol Records as its distribution partner.  BRI continues to manage The Beach Boys’ intellectual property, including the band’s catalog with Capitol/EMI and other label partners, as well as its name, logos, image and likeness.


The Beach Boys continue to hold Billboard / Nielsen SoundScan’s record as the top-selling American band for albums and singles, and they are also the American group with the most Billboard Top 40 chart hits (36).  ‘Sounds Of Summer: The Very Best Of The Beach Boys’ has achieved triple-Platinum sales status, and ‘The SMiLE Sessions,’ released to worldwide critical acclaim in November, was heralded as 2011’s #1 Reissue of the Year by Rolling Stone magazine.


Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 and recipients of The Recording Academy’s Lifetime Achievement GRAMMY Award, The Beach Boys are an American institution that is iconic around the world.


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The Beach Boys: Greatest Hits [CD, digital]

1. That’s Why God Made The Radio 11. I Get Around

2. California Girls 12. Fun, Fun, Fun

3. Sloop John B 13. Be True to Your School

4. Wouldn’t It Be Nice 14. Dance, Dance, Dance

5. Surfer Girl 15. All Summer Long

6. Do It Again 16. Help Me, Rhonda

7. Surfin’ Safari 17. Rock And Roll Music

8. Surfin’ U.S.A. 18. God Only Knows

9. Don’t Worry Baby 19. Good Vibrations

10. Little Deuce Coupe 20. Kokomo


The Beach Boys ‘Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones’ [2CD, digital]

Disc 1

1. California Girls [Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!)]

2. Do It Again [20/20]

3. Surfin’ Safari [Surfin’ Safari]

4. Catch a Wave [Surfer Girl]

5. Little Honda [All Summer Long]

6. Surfin’ U.S.A. [Surfin’ USA]

7. Surfer Girl [Surfer Girl]

8. Don’t Worry Baby [Shut Down, Vol. 2]

9. Little Deuce Coupe [Surfer Girl]

10. Shut Down [Surfin’ USA]

11. I Get Around [All Summer Long]

12. The Warmth of the Sun [Shut Down, Vol. 2]

13. Please Let Me Wonder [The Beach Boys Today!]

14. Wendy [All Summer Long]

15. Getcha Back [The Beach Boys]

16. The Little Girl I Once Knew [non-LP single, 1965]

17. When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) [The Beach Boys Today!]

18. It’s OK [15 Big Ones]

19. Dance, Dance, Dance [The Beach Boys Today!]

20. Do You Wanna Dance [The Beach Boys Today!]

21. Rock And Roll Music [15 Big Ones]

22. Barbara Ann [Beach Boys Party!]

23. All Summer Long [All Summer Long]

24. Help Me, Rhonda [Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!)]

25. Fun, Fun, Fun [Shut Down, Vol. 2]


Disc 2

1. Kokomo [‘Cocktail’ Motion Picture Soundtrack]

2. You’re So Good To Me [Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!)]

3. Wild Honey [Wild Honey]

4. Darlin’ [Wild Honey]

5. In My Room [Surfer Girl]

6. All This Is That [Carl and the Passions “So Tough”]

7. This Whole World [Sunflower]

8. Add Some Music To Your Day [Sunflower]

9. Cotton Fields [non-LP single, 1970]

10. I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times [Pet Sounds]

11. Sail on, Sailor [Holland]

12. Surf’s Up [Surf’s Up]

13. Friends [Friends]

14. Heroes and Villains [Smiley Smile]

15. I Can Hear Music [20/20]

16. Good Timin’ [L.A. (Light Album)]

17. California Saga (On My Way to Sunny Californ-I-A) [Holland]

18. Isn’t It Time (single version) [That’s Why God Made The Radio]

19. Kiss Me, Baby [The Beach Boys Today!]

20. That’s Why God Made The Radio [That’s Why God Made The Radio]

21. Forever [Sunflower]

22. God Only Knows [Pet Sounds]

23. Sloop John B [Pet Sounds]

24. Wouldn’t It Be Nice [Pet Sounds]

25. Good Vibrations [Smiley Smile]


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: AndrewHickey on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 AM
No box set then? Bugger.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: shelter on August 08, 2012, 06:16:30 AM
No box set then? Bugger.

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A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: over and over on August 08, 2012, 06:19:30 AM
Just glad we got some news  :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: AndrewHickey on August 08, 2012, 06:20:48 AM
No box set then? Bugger.

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A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon.

Ah, didn't see that -- they kept referring to 50 Big Ones as a 'box' and I skimmed the rest.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Aegir on August 08, 2012, 06:22:06 AM
The only thing that I wouldn't have guessed from this is that TWGMTR is even on the one-disc comp.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: HighOnLife on August 08, 2012, 06:24:46 AM
No Wild Honey in stereo? Bummer.

I'll still buy the Today and Summer Days albums though.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 06:26:37 AM
So it looks like the single version of "Isn't It Time" will be the carrot they dangle to get us hardcores to buy this set.

And they will succeed.



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 08, 2012, 06:28:03 AM
Well, at this stage I hope the box set is good


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: hypehat on August 08, 2012, 06:29:14 AM
So it looks like the single version of "Isn't It Time" will be the carrot they dangle to get us hardcores to buy this set.

And they will succeed.



You could always just.... buy the single?


As an aside, those covers look terrible.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 06:31:57 AM
1. What will happen to the bonus tracks that are/were on the two-fers?

2. What will happen to the Brother Records/Reprise catalogue?

3. What will Dick Rising say about all this?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: HighOnLife on August 08, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: phirnis on August 08, 2012, 06:36:25 AM
1. What will happen to the bonus tracks that are/were on the two-fers?

2. What will happen to the Brother Records/Reprise catalogue?

3. What will Dick Rising say about all this?

4. Where's the Love You box set?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 08, 2012, 06:38:34 AM
So....pleasantly surprised that they went for a 'best-of' approach rather than strictly hits oriented. This would be that CD set that I would give somebody to show them the scope of The Beach Boys talents.

I did think that there would be new songs on here though, besides the new "Isn't It Time". I guess, if indeed there is newly recorded material, it's either going on the box set, or they're saving it for the new album.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: TV Forces on August 08, 2012, 06:43:31 AM
Ah, didn't see that -- they kept referring to 50 Big Ones as a 'box' and I skimmed the rest.

You skimmed it and then wondered why you didn't see something.

 :afro

It's called a box because it's a "lift-top box package."


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 08, 2012, 06:46:26 AM
No box set then? Bugger.

I'm pretty sure AGD said yesterday that a box set is still in the works, no?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: rab2591 on August 08, 2012, 06:47:27 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.

Seriously. And I'm so tired of that Beach Boys logo font...it only makes them look outdated.

BUT. This is great news. Glad to see the boxset is still in the works.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: phirnis on August 08, 2012, 06:49:21 AM
50 Big Ones could use some 'Til I Die.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mikie on August 08, 2012, 06:54:16 AM
Bugger.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 08, 2012, 06:54:46 AM
If the rest of the albums, especially "Wild Honey" remain untouched during this 'revamp' so to speak, well there just is not justice in the world


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: AndrewHickey on August 08, 2012, 06:55:31 AM
Ah, didn't see that -- they kept referring to 50 Big Ones as a 'box' and I skimmed the rest.

You skimmed it and then wondered why you didn't see something.

 :afro

It's called a box because it's a "lift-top box package."

I skimmed after the announcement of the two hits packages and the twelve album reissues... normally press releases don't have much of anything in the last few paragraphs.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 08, 2012, 06:57:45 AM
Cool news. Looks like Capital supplied the corporate incentive track (Isn't It Time) so this will be a keeper for me.  ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 06:58:42 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.

Seriously. And I'm so tired of that Beach Boys logo font...it only makes them look outdated.

BUT. This is great news. Glad to see the boxset is still in the works.

Sure. That '70s style retro logo gives them an paleo-stenchy-impotent-astrosuit-moldy-embalmed aura that this ever-timeless band does deserve least of all pop ensembles on our venerable little planet.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 08, 2012, 07:02:07 AM
I wonder why they left "Christmas Harmonies" off of this press release.  ???


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 07:10:08 AM
I wonder why they left "Christmas Harmonies" off of this press release.  ???

It's probably just some repackaged nugget for supermarkets and Hallmark stores and Target holiday displays. For Holiday shoppers to buy on impulse. Not for people like us.

I want a proper stereo/mono Christmas album release. And I'm sure there will be one...eventually.



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 07:12:36 AM
1. What will happen to the bonus tracks that are/were on the two-fers?

Probably be integrated into career spanning set or rarities thing, if such things exist.

Or elimated to make your two-fers a nifty collectors item.

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2. What will happen to the Brother Records/Reprise catalogue?

They will be reissued like the rest of the titles at some point. Why would they stop at Surfs Up?


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3. What will Dick Rising say about all this?

"Hold your water."


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: shelter on August 08, 2012, 07:12:53 AM
I do think it's silly that they're releasing a 20 song greatest hits CD now when there's already a perfectly fine 30 song comp.

These 12 songs from Sounds Of Summer were deleted (TWGMTR and All Summer Long were added):

Shut Down
When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
In My Room
Getcha Back
Come Go With Me
Barbara Ann
Do You Wanna Dance
Heroes And Villains
Good Timin'
Wild Honey
Darlin'
I Can Hear Music

I'm certainly not a fan of Barbara Ann (to put it lightly), but it's hard to defend the exclusion of a #2 hit, while All Summer Long (not even a hit) is included...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 08, 2012, 07:16:55 AM
It's good to be a Beach Boys fan. Can't wait to see the track list for the box set.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 08, 2012, 07:25:34 AM
In other breaking news, McDonald's will continue to make their Big Mac as follows:

1. two all-beef patties
2. special sauce
3. lettuce
4. cheese
5. pickles
6. onions
7. sesame seed bun


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 07:28:04 AM
In other breaking news, McDonald's will continue to make their Big Mac as follows:

1. two all-beef patties
2. special sauce
3. lettuce
4. cheese
5. pickles
6. onions
7. sesame seed bun

 :lol -->  :hat


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Alex on August 08, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
So how long until we get the 8 SACD, 5DVD, and triple 180g vinyl Summer in Paradise box????!!!!!!! :lol :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 07:53:58 AM
I want Still Crusin’ Special Edition with no oldies and added tracks like Lady Liberty and RNR To The Rescue.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on August 08, 2012, 08:06:49 AM
Yuck...I sure hope the box set gets a better design for a cover than these two greatest hits packages.  Horrible design.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 08:22:23 AM
Yuck...I sure hope the box set gets a better design for a cover than these two greatest hits packages.  Horrible design.

I get flatulent over the most recent stylizifications.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Micha on August 08, 2012, 08:24:14 AM
The 2-disc set roughly mirrors the tour set.

And it's got Dance Dance Dance on it! ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 08, 2012, 08:44:49 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on August 08, 2012, 08:46:56 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.

Not great, but I still think it's light years better than the greatest hits designs.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 08, 2012, 08:49:07 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.

Not great, but I still think it's light years better than the greatest hits designs.

Looks like it should be on sale at Hallmark, right next to the candles.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 08:58:47 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.

This isn't new. Has been out for several years, including the cover art.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 08, 2012, 09:00:14 AM
My, my, "Good vibrations" "I get around" "Help me Rhonda" finally in stereo !!! Wow !


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
My first impression of the cover art....very cool.  I may buy both just because they look so candy delicious.

(http://www.brianwilson.com/tumblr/50.png)  


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Quzi on August 08, 2012, 09:01:10 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.

Not even. I honestly could whip up a better cover photoshop in half an hour and I failed high-school art! (mind you, only because the set course didn't follow my artistic muse, but I digress  :lol) Seriously, who overseas the artwork direction of the band's releases? It's practically sabotage!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 08, 2012, 09:02:49 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.

This isn't new. Has been out for several years, including the cover art.

You're right. I had never seen this but apparently this is a reissue from 2009.

Cancelled.  :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 09:04:49 AM
They will be reissued like the rest of the titles at some point. Why would they stop at Surfs Up?

I certainly hope this is true, but the press release doesn't make any promises in that regard.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 09:06:59 AM
For those who are interested, the new Christmas cover art:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Uoa8LL0UL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Pretty "meh" IMO. But I'll get it if they're in stereo.

The old one had a different color scheme!

(http://i43.tower.com/images/mm113678596/christmas-harmonies-beach-boys-cd-cover-art.jpg)

Completists MUST buy AGAIN!!!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 09:07:54 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.

Not even. I honestly could whip up a better cover photoshop in half an hour and I failed high-school art! (mind you, only because the set course didn't follow my artistic muse, but I digress  :lol) Seriously, who overseas the artwork direction of the band's releases? It's practically sabotage!
Ya'll crazy!  Their latest covers are solid.  Eye-catching, attractive designs.  Totally proper.  

(http://www.brianwilson.com/tumblr/50.png)  

I mean...whataya want? This kind of stuff?   :shrug

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415-88TfcBL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 09:09:22 AM
Capitol must outsource the Beach Boys covers to a local high school art department.

Not even. I honestly could whip up a better cover photoshop in half an hour and I failed high-school art! (mind you, only because the set course didn't follow my artistic muse, but I digress  :lol) Seriously, who overseas the artwork direction of the band's releases? It's practically sabotage!
Ya'll crazy!  Their latest covers are solid.  Eye-catching, attractive designs.  Totally proper.  

(http://www.brianwilson.com/tumblr/50.png) 

I mean...whataya want? This kind of stuff?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415-88TfcBL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Two wrongs don't make a right, old bean.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 09:13:05 AM
Two wrongs don't make a right, old bean.
It ain't wrong, though.  Ya'll are.   :afro


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Paulos on August 08, 2012, 09:14:02 AM
My, my, "Good vibrations" "I get around" "Help me Rhonda" finally in stereo !!! Wow !

Anyone have any idea how they are going to achieve stereo with the above songs?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Roger Ryan on August 08, 2012, 09:16:46 AM
My, my, "Good vibrations" "I get around" "Help me Rhonda" finally in stereo !!! Wow !

Anyone have any idea how they are going to achieve stereo with the above songs?

This has been covered in the "2012 Remastered" thread - electronic extraction has been used to isolate elements found only in mono mixes to create the stereo. Apparently, the technology was considered sophisticated enough to give these mixes an official release.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on August 08, 2012, 09:17:03 AM
My, my, "Good vibrations" "I get around" "Help me Rhonda" finally in stereo !!! Wow !

Anyone have any idea how they are going to achieve stereo with the above songs?

Mix them in stereo from the Multitracks, adding lost discrete elements using this newfangled "digital extraction" technology.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 09:19:09 AM
So is today the first we're hearing of the Mono/Stereo Remasters getting an official US release?  This is huge!!!   :o  For me anyway.   :pirate :happydance


All respect and love for our fellow Smilers who took a bullet for the team on the Japanese imports.  


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Beach Boy on August 08, 2012, 09:19:59 AM
16 Euro each at amazon.de with september 21st as release date. A bit high priced but I am still excited.

http://www.amazon.de/Sunflower-Stereo-Beach-Boys/dp/B008LA7RHA/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1344441996&sr=1-4


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 08, 2012, 09:36:34 AM
Two wrongs don't make a right, old bean.
It ain't wrong, though.  Ya'll are.   :afro

 :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 10:05:34 AM
What we're probably seeing here is this Japanese site announcing it before everyone else.  Who knows...they may even have the remasters released there first before everywhere else?

Check!

Either way, I shall expect an annoucement for the worldwide release to be made in the near future. 

Check!

I'm thrilled Capitol didn't drop the ball on this opportunity to give us the remasters too.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Zach95 on August 08, 2012, 10:45:38 AM
The 2-disc set roughly mirrors the tour set.

And it's got Dance Dance Dance on it! ;D

This. It's quite clear that 50 Big Ones is an attempt it somewhat mirror the tour set list, with nearly every song being performed so far on tour.  And I sort of like the cover art, nothing special, sort of cliche, but safe nonetheless and I'm excited to buy the new comp.

For me, the "official" validation of the remastered is what really excited me from this release, even if we knew yesterday or whenever when they appeared on Amazon.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: joshferrell on August 08, 2012, 10:59:51 AM
no "Wild Honey" "Friends" or "20/20" cd release? maybe they are planning a late 60's boxset with those songs on it with the "landlocked" songs or something like that ..


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 11:24:21 AM
A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon.


Wow, so no info on the box.  Hmm.  Special commemorative release, eh?

Sounds like it could be a simple expansion on the 2 disc set.  With swag.  Get us on the first wave of releases -- then hook us on a "commemorative release" that contains a few new/unreleased tracks.  Naturally, I hope this is a massive vault dump....but I suspect it's more the former -- a glamorous career-spanning set with a dash of rarities.

Holding out hope....


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 11:28:12 AM
The 2-disc set roughly mirrors the tour set.


This. It's quite clear that 50 Big Ones is an attempt it somewhat mirror the tour set list, with nearly every song being performed so far on tour. 

Hard to believe nobody saw this coming.


I'll bet dollars to donuts that the 50 Big Ones line up is something like this:

Also, closely resembles 2012 setlist.

Oh.



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 11:30:13 AM
probably been posted...but for the slow folks, in the cheap seats, like me...

Doin' It Again  [Blu-Ray]
http://www.amazon.com/Doin-Again-Blu-ray-Beach-Boys/dp/B008KZY01C/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1344450394&sr=8-14&keywords=beach+boys

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/619fjWtQldL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

 :rock


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 11:30:24 AM
[ a glamorous career-spanning set with a dash of rarities.



They already did that to perfection with the 30 Yrs Good Vibrations box. Me want all rarities and unreleased. We (the people who would be eager to put money down for such a box) have no use for the hits, especially if (when) we buy 50 Big Ones.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
probably been posted...but for the slow folks, in the cheap seats, like me...

Doin' It Again  [Blu-Ray]
http://www.amazon.com/Doin-Again-Blu-ray-Beach-Boys/dp/B008KZY01C/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1344450394&sr=8-14&keywords=beach+boys

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/619fjWtQldL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

 :rock

I'm gonna need a time machine to go back a month to when this information was new and useful.   

Was priced at $11.99 initially.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ontor pertawst on August 08, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
Quote
On September 18th, The GRAMMY Museum in Los Angeles will launch a special Beach Boys 50th Anniversary exhibit with ‘An Evening With The Beach Boys,’ a public event featuring a Q&A and acoustic performance by Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks (www.grammymuseum.org).

This sounds like a real treat if it's anything like the Rolling Stone session. No tickets for sale on their site yet, unless I'm missing something. In any case.. another show to go to!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
[ a glamorous career-spanning set with a dash of rarities.



They already did that to perfection with the 30 Yrs Good Vibrations box. Me want all rarities and unreleased. We (the people who would be eager to put money down for such a box) have no use for the hits, especially if (when) we buy 50 Big Ones.

Amen!

The GV box was -- and is -- one of the greatest box sets EVER.  Hits and Rarities served up in harmony.  We do not need to relieve GV of it's duty.  Nor do we need 5 discs of hits.  We need a full box of vault love.

I really suspect it'll be the GV box -- with a DVD or Blu-ray.  But not at the GV box's price tag.  


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
I'm gonna need a time machine to go back a month to when this information was new and useful.   

Was priced at $11.99 initially.

(http://emailblog.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/back_to_the_future_delorean_time_machine.jpg)

Pick me one up for 11.99


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Banana on August 08, 2012, 11:41:03 AM
"A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon."

As long as I get my rarities (or at least some)...I'll be happy.  Remasters are nice...greatest hits packages have there place...but honestly...nothing being offered is anything I don't already own in some way, shape or form.

I want some honest-to-goodness stuff from the vaults...and if I don't get WIBNTLA I might consider tracking down the Wikileaks guy to see if he can get his hands on it for us!

I also wonder if the remasters will be available in some sort of boxed set or simply as stand-alone releases?  

That said...I'm glad that EMI/Capitol is putting so much effort into the band.  They obviously deserve it.  50 years is a big deal.





Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Banana on August 08, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon.


Wow, so no info on the box.  Hmm.  Special commemorative release, eh?

Sounds like it could be a simple expansion on the 2 disc set.  With swag.  Get us on the first wave of releases -- then hook us on a "commemorative release" that contains a few new/unreleased tracks.  Naturally, I hope this is a massive vault dump....but I suspect it's more the former -- a glamorous career-spanning set with a dash of rarities.

Holding out hope....

Maybe it will come with a "special collector's pin?" ::)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: AM Radio on August 08, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
For the '50 Big Ones' set, they should have included at least one track from the 'SMiLE Sessions' - perhaps Surf's Up or GV.  


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: drbeachboy on August 08, 2012, 11:49:03 AM
Especially, as a fully functional, recording band. Ain't too many left with all the surviving original members, either.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 08, 2012, 11:50:26 AM
I wonder if the mixes for 50 Big Ones will be taken primarily from the new stereo mixes, and if so, it will be interesting to see if we get stereo mixes (Digital Extractions or otherwise) of "Surfin' Safari", "The Little Girl I Once Knew", "Wild Honey", "Darlin'", "Friends" (I know it was released in stereo, but I could still imagine them trying to do a cleaner mix), and "Do It Again".


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 11:56:48 AM
"A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon."

As long as I get my rarities (or at least some)...I'll be happy.  Remasters are nice...greatest hits packages have there place...but honestly...nothing being offered is anything I don't already own in some way, shape or form.

I want some honest-to-goodness stuff from the vaults...and if I don't get WIBNTLA I might consider tracking down the Wikileaks guy to see if he can get his hands on it for us!

I also wonder if the remasters will be available in some sort of boxed set or simply as stand-alone releases? 

That said...I'm glad that EMI/Capitol is putting so much effort into the band.  They obviously deserve it.  50 years is a big deal.


Perhaps out of reach but certainly logical would be if the remasters were all grouped in a box with the addition of the other missing titles finally filling out the set (Wild Honey, Friends...etc).   That would be a nice ploy to get us to buy the box set just so we can have the rest of the titles including the coveted stereo version of Wild Honey in our collections.  Where they would stop is up for grabs...maybe "Holland" or all the way to "Love You"?  Who knows?   

But with the previous archive products ("Good Vibrations" box, "Hawthorne" plus all the bonus tracks from the two-fers) now out of print, it's becoming clear where those tracks will be used.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 08, 2012, 12:05:41 PM
"A career-spanning Beach Boys 50th Anniversary box set is planned for release later this year by Capitol/EMI.  Details about the special commemorative release will be announced soon."

As long as I get my rarities (or at least some)...I'll be happy.  Remasters are nice...greatest hits packages have there place...but honestly...nothing being offered is anything I don't already own in some way, shape or form.

I want some honest-to-goodness stuff from the vaults...and if I don't get WIBNTLA I might consider tracking down the Wikileaks guy to see if he can get his hands on it for us!

I also wonder if the remasters will be available in some sort of boxed set or simply as stand-alone releases?  

That said...I'm glad that EMI/Capitol is putting so much effort into the band.  They obviously deserve it.  50 years is a big deal.


Perhaps out of reach but certainly logical would be if the remasters were all grouped in a box with the addition of the other missing titles finally filling out the set (Wild Honey, Friends...etc).   That would be a nice ploy to get us to buy the box set just so we can have the rest of the titles including the coveted stereo version of Wild Honey in our collections.  Where they would stop is up for grabs...maybe "Holland" or all the way to "Love You"?  Who knows?  

But with the previous archive products ("Good Vibrations" box, "Hawthorne" plus all the bonus tracks from the two-fers) now out of print, it's becoming clear where those tracks will be used.

They should sell the discs separately to make this endeavor affordable to the fans, but offer an exclusive "tech unit" storage unit that you can buy and put all your discs in. The exclusive bonus? A single disc mono/stereo "Smile" album.

Start clipping those "proof-of-purchases", suckers!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA....


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
Yeah having them separately would obviously be really nice but if they wanted to be sneaky about it and cut corners...sneaking it into a box set is possible.  It's way early too tell.  Let's all get this first batch of remasters and then see about more. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Zach95 on August 08, 2012, 12:10:18 PM
I just REALLY hope they don't release a sort of box that you have to buy in order to obtain WH, Friends, 20/20, Holland, etc. after I go out and buy these 12 new releases. That would be cruel.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
It'd certainly be nice if they revealed the box set before the remasters are released that way we can all decide how we want to go about purchasing these different items.  They'd catch hell if they waited and made us re-buy everything just to get the other missing albums.  Hopefully they can get it together and finalize their plans and make the announcement soon.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 12:32:35 PM
Exactly.  I'm waiting for more info on the box before I spring for the remasters.

Something like this could happen...
(http://www.cdbanq.net/img/shop/set_beatles_mono.jpg)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 12:37:11 PM
The idea of them "reserving" the second batch just for the hardcore fans as a seperate product all together like they did with The Beatles in Mono, yes, it could happen.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 08, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
The idea of them "reserving" the second batch just for the hardcore fans as a seperate product all together like they did with The Beatles in Mono, yes, it could happen.
I didn't mean to imply that they're holding out so we double dip...but just that I want to wait.  A box like that would be ideal.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 08, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
Well, we've all been fantasizing about such a box set for months ever since Japan announced their remasters in June.  We obviously want a box set but considering how things are trickling out here, it's becoming obvious that they have different intentions in mind on how to go about this.   It's not just a simple "put them all in a box just like The Beatles ones."  Them releasing 12 semi-random albums all individually, leaving out a portion of their catalog that actually fills in the gaps in that first batch is quite telling.  There is obviously some kind of larger plan in motion here.  We won't know for sure how it will pan out and a part of me believes that neither will Capitol!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Catbirdman on August 08, 2012, 12:52:57 PM
Only one comment: I think the artwork is great - surprised there's so much negative reaction. FWIW.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 08, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
I think the 50BO deal looks quite good. I can easily imagine ppl skipping the 1CD set b ecause it has only the most fundamental hits, so many might be interested in 50BO, which has a pretty good CD 2 song list. Might make the deeper stuff like IJWFTT get some real recognition. Because Pet Sounds is acclaimed, and IJWMFTT is without doubt one of the very best songs from that album. I mean...how the hell can somone write a song like IJWMFTT at the age of 24?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: egon spengler on August 08, 2012, 01:29:18 PM
Looks like they used the tour setlist as a template for the 50 Big Ones box set. I see only a few box tunes they didn't play (Surf's Up, Wild Honey, Friends) and can only think of a few tour songs they left out (Prayer, Marcella, a couple others I'm not thinking of).


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Banana on August 08, 2012, 02:57:35 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Rush...but last year they remastered their entire back catalog and split it into three boxed sets...all actually quite reasonably priced.  I believe (and I could be wrong) that one can also buy the new remasters individually, as well.

This is what EMI needs to do.  Yes...box them up...do it in multiple boxes if they must...but make each LP also available individually.  It teed me off that they didn't sell any of their Beatles mono remasters on their own...so I had to go and plunk down for the box after I'd already bought the stereo set.

Just to satisfy my curiosity (and excuse my technical ignorance) but how are these remasters going to sound in comparison to the original "two-fers"?  Should we expect a great improvement in sound...or is it more of a "hey, I can finally hear (fill in track name here) in stereo?" kind of deal?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 08, 2012, 02:58:15 PM
I wonder if the remasters will retain the bonus tracks from the twofers.  While some are just outtakes, some are essential (the single version of Be True to Your School, Little Girl I Once Knew...)

And I bet there will be a second wave of remasters, for the next 12 major albums (Surfin' Safari, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Carl and the Passions, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, MIU, LA, Keepin' the Summer Alive, The Beach Boys 1985).


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 08, 2012, 03:00:08 PM
I wonder if the remasters will retain the bonus tracks from the twofers.  While some are just outtakes, some are essential (the single version of Be True to Your School, Little Girl I Once Knew...)




I hope Surf's Up will feature bonustracks, e.g. "Wouldn't it be nice to live again".


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 08, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
Exactly.  I'm waiting for more info on the box before I spring for the remasters.

Something like this could happen...
(http://www.cdbanq.net/img/shop/set_beatles_mono.jpg)

Something like that should happen


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 08, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
The Beatles In Mono box was a b*tch only in terms of having to buy another box. Most everything could have fit in one box with the addition of a cd or two, but all of those thoughts went away once I actually bought the (legit, not fake) mono box - it's a thing of beauty. Any band's fans should be proud if they had a box that looked and sounded like that!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on August 08, 2012, 03:38:52 PM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

ANYWAY, has there been any information on the Isn’t It Time single version, whether it’s newly recorded, or if it just has new overdubs/different vocals and lyrics, or if it’s just an extended mix of the album version? I'm really curious about this. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: LetHimRun on August 08, 2012, 03:41:26 PM
The Beatles In Mono box was a b*tch only in terms of having to buy another box. Most everything could have fit in one box with the addition of a cd or two, but all of those thoughts went away once I actually bought the (legit, not fake) mono box - it's a thing of beauty. Any band's fans should be proud if they had a box that looked and sounded like that!
I agree. I got the stereo box set first because it was cheaper (and had all of the albums), but later, Amazon had a fantastic price on the mono box set and I picked that up. It is absolutely amazing.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 08, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
As many predicted/suspected (AGD), about reporting my conversation with Al; he was mixing up both projects up in the conversation.

Whew, so glad we are still getting the box set; and that Phil Cohen may finally go away!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
I wonder if the remasters will retain the bonus tracks from the twofers.  While some are just outtakes, some are essential (the single version of Be True to Your School, Little Girl I Once Knew...)




I hope Surf's Up will feature bonustracks, e.g. "Wouldn't it be nice to live again".

I do think this is almost certainly not going to happen.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
ANYWAY, has there been any information on the Isn’t It Time single version, whether it’s newly recorded, or if it just has new overdubs/different vocals and lyrics, or if it’s just an extended mix of the album version? I'm really curious about this.  

The middle option, I believe. They made some changes to the bridge lyrics and added some harmony to Jeff's part there, and there have been live versions with extra fuzz-tone guitar.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 08, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

ANYWAY, has there been any information on the Isn’t It Time single version, whether it’s newly recorded, or if it just has new overdubs/different vocals and lyrics, or if it’s just an extended mix of the album version? I'm really curious about this. 

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: MBE on August 08, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Very underwhelmed.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 08, 2012, 05:27:28 PM
Hmmm…

If, as folk are suggesting, the tracklist of 50BO is intended to mirror the tour setlist, albeit roughly, then maybe there's a chance that the UK audiences will get to hear Surf's Up, Friends and I Can Hear Music.

That would be nice…

Surprised that the single disc's tracklist isn't a mirror of Disc One of the 2CD version.

Chalk me up as a fan of the cover – great image, candy colours and, as it's for AGD's mate JQP, on the button.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 08, 2012, 05:29:50 PM
Very underwhelmed.

Can't help but agree


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Doo Dah on August 08, 2012, 05:35:38 PM
Can't pull a trigger on the two CD set until I know whether or not there's an overlap with the real box set. Hopefully it's not asking too much for further clarification by mid September.

I'm quite happy about the stereo Today and Summer Days. But lordy, if the other twelve are remastered, that will be the bombay. I am pining for a clean and hi-fidelity Wild Honey. That to me would be the motherlode.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Zach95 on August 08, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
Very underwhelmed.

After all we've been given thus far? Just the fact that the Beach Boys catalog, albeit a good chunk of it, finally will be treated properly with individual CD releases in mono and stereo is very unexpected, in my mind.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: hypehat on August 08, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
Very underwhelmed.

Can't help but agree

Couldn't give a fig about the best-ofs, but a boxset is coming and the remasters are getting an international release! That is great news


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Beach Head on August 08, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
Looking closely at the tracklist for the 1-CD Greatest Hits and the 2-CD 50 Big Ones, can someone explain to me why "Be True To Your School" is on the former, but not the latter?!! It was a #6 single, for God's sake! Good enough to be one of the group's 20 greatest hits, but not one of their 50 Big Ones? It makes absolutely no sense to me.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 08, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
Shocked to see "'Til I Die" not making it with how often the Brian camp has shoved it down our fucking throats over the years.

Also, as anticipated, The Beach Boys apparently didn't do jack sh*t worth hearing after 1971 according to the remasters. For Joe Public and Hipster McAnimalcollectiverullz, it's just "Surfin' USA" (black man invented rock and whitey stole his sh*t i hate this song) to Pet Sounds (because Paul said it was the best) to Smile (Mike Love aka mean doodyhead ruined it which means I love it but not as much as Pet Sounds because Paul said it was the best but the Beatles are overrated but the Beatles are the greatest band in the history of everhything) to OH MY F*CKING GOD "'TIL I DIE" (STEREO MIX WITHOUT MIKE LOVE VOCALS) TO "KOKOMO" (SHITTY MIKE LOVE SONG FT UNCLE JESSE & TOM CRUISE GAY HAIRCUT I SECRETLY LIKE IT f*** U MIKE LOVE) TO BRIAN GETTING OUT OF BED AFTER EIGHTY YEARS MEDIOCRE "WHY DID GOD MAKE THE RADIOAF(IGJgggrsdng


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jeff on August 08, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
Couldn't give a fig about the best-ofs

Wait, you mean you don't want to spend good money on a set that you could configure yourself in 15 mins. with a CD burner?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jeff on August 08, 2012, 06:49:58 PM
Shocked to see "'Til I Die" not making it with how often the Brian camp has shoved it down our f***ing throats over the years.

Also, as anticipated, The Beach Boys apparently didn't do jack sh*t worth hearing after 1971 according to the remasters. For Joe Public and Hipster McAnimalcollectiverullz, it's just "Surfin' USA" (black man invented rock and whitey stole his sh*t i hate this song) to Pet Sounds (because Paul said it was the best) to Smile (Mike Love aka mean doodyhead ruined it which means I love it but not as much as Pet Sounds because Paul said it was the best but the Beatles are overrated but the Beatles are the greatest band in the history of everhything) to OH MY F*CKING GOD "'TIL I DIE" (STEREO MIX WITHOUT MIKE LOVE VOCALS) TO "KOKOMO" (sh*tTY MIKE LOVE SONG FT UNCLE JESSE & TOM CRUISE GAY HAIRCUT I SECRETLY LIKE IT f*** U MIKE LOVE) TO BRIAN GETTING OUT OF BED AFTER EIGHTY YEARS MEDIOCRE "WHY DID GOD MAKE THE RADIOAF(IGJgggrsdng

Time for your nap Runners.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Zach95 on August 08, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
Couldn't give a fig about the best-ofs

Wait, you mean you don't want to spend good money on a set that you could configure yourself in 15 mins. with a CD burner?

But it's purtty...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Catbirdman on August 08, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
Looking closely at the tracklist for the 1-CD Greatest Hits and the 2-CD 50 Big Ones, can someone explain to me why "Be True To Your School" is on the former, but not the latter?!! It was a #6 single, for God's sake! Good enough to be one of the group's 20 greatest hits, but not one of their 50 Big Ones? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Heh, yeah that is weird. Nice spot.

Mike Eder, I'm surprised to hear you say you're "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RHf07SA3vg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RHf07SA3vg)." I'm actually shocked we're getting reissues of individual albums. That was never part of the package in all the press releases up 'til now. Many of us - including me - daydreamed about it on this board, but always with the disclaimer "it'll never happen, but..." It's too much to hope for, but..." etc. But it's actually happening! Mono and stereo. That is HUGE.

That said, the biggest carrot of all is unreleased tracks. True enough, we don't yet know what the box set will hold in that department. The reissues don't have any bonus tracks, but aesthetically, at least, it feels very appropriately and lovingly done to me - to have the individual albums released au naturel, in their original forms, with mono and stereo. Original album art. Original track sequence. feels right.

The big wild card is that EOY box set. I anxiously await, not daring to get my hopes up TOO high...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 08, 2012, 07:13:33 PM
I'm rarely opposed to best ofs, but in the case of the Beach Boys, it'd just be nice to see, after a thousand different cheap attempts, a best of that accurately represents the band. It's somehow yet to happen, it could be done easily on two discs, and no, it doesn't have to include obscure fanboy sh*t for someone like me to think they did a good job. Include the hits (ALL of them, no inexplicable exclusions as is always the case), include the singles, include a couple fan favorites (preferably while making sure all members get the songwriting spotlight at least once), include something you can't get elsewhere and give it some exclusive liner notes beyond some dumbass explaining why the band is important to the world.

No need to serve us the same reheated, only slightly stirred bullsh*t every two years - make it definitive and worthwhile. Any level-headed asshole on this board could probably do a better job overall than a lot of these recent efforts. This tracklist certainly isn't the worst, but there's still some very obvious flaws that I can't make sense of.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Awesoman on August 08, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
So we're getting a Greatest Hits album, a deluxe greatest  hits album, and new remasters of choice Beach Boys albums?  A little redundant, but I'll take it.  Still wondering what the box set is going to focus on. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 08, 2012, 07:51:15 PM
Buying the box, and 3 new stereo albums, maybe 50 big ones.

We better get wild honey, 20/20 and friends.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Awesoman on August 08, 2012, 08:03:21 PM
$20 bucks is a bit much though.  I'm hoping we'll see the prices go down. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 08, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
$20 bucks is a bit much though.  I'm hoping we'll see the prices go down. 

Amazon pages are always very tentative. Prices vary wildly, and they often times won't even have the correct album title etc. until a couple weeks before release.

There's no way they'll release these for 20 dollars a piece after selling the twofers for 10 dollars a piece for the last couple decades.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Summertime Blooz on August 08, 2012, 08:26:59 PM
Those covers are pretty damn sh*tty. How fekkin' generic can you get?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: over and over on August 08, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
I'm so glad we're getting these great albums in stereo but........

I NEED Wild Honey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopfully it will be coming down the pipeline soon.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: startBBtoday on August 08, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
Can't say I really understand why they're doing all three, the Greatest Hits, 50BO and the box set. I feel like they could have picked either the Greatest Hits and the box or the 50BO and the box. All three seems redundant. Obviously the powers that be probably know more than me, but having another 20 song greatest hits when tons of those already exist is weird.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 08, 2012, 09:22:28 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: MBE on August 08, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
Very underwhelmed.

After all we've been given thus far? Just the fact that the Beach Boys catalog, albeit a good chunk of it, finally will be treated properly with individual CD releases in mono and stereo is very unexpected, in my mind.
I'm a vinyl guy far more than CD so there's that. I also like and have mono mixes and never have given a darn about the stereo especially the latter day remixes.  I loved the tour, like the new LP, and am happy they got back together, but hit sets mean nothing anymore to me. A box set-CD, Vinyl, or both-with unreleased stuff would be great, but so far I'm not impressed with what has been announced. Now if they were putting out analog mastered vinyl albums I would be happy as the original LP's with original covers deserve to have a complete reissue to give us all the chance to buy them as they originally sounded in mint condition (note the recent posting about Sunflower by Steve Desper), but I'm fine with the CD"s we have and don't feel a need to buy them again.  I was hoping to hear about some great archive stuff coming out not the three dozenth reissue of I Get Around.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 08, 2012, 09:27:51 PM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

ANYWAY, has there been any information on the Isn’t It Time single version, whether it’s newly recorded, or if it just has new overdubs/different vocals and lyrics, or if it’s just an extended mix of the album version? I'm really curious about this. 

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.

I never understood it myself.  Where is the big uproar over the band insisting on calling themselves the Beach Boys long after they're no longer boys, or anywhere near the Beach?  It's their gimmick.  Beach.  Boys.  If it says Beach.  Boys. on the artwork, I don't really see a problem with it having a surfboard on there.  Kind of makes sense.  What doesn't make sense?  Giving a sh*t about it when it doesn't even matter.

Who cares what they call them, who cares what the art looks like?  They could spend the next 50 years telling me how shitty they were as a band, and I'd reject it all and still love them and their music, surfboards and all. 

People get so upset when someone else's opinion of the band isn't exactly the same as their opinion.  If Capitol records thinks the Beach Boys sucked after 1965, I don't give a sh*t. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 08, 2012, 09:34:04 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

I hope they don't make it a huge set featuring the released albums, because it would be cost prohibitive to most people.  I suppose though the purpose could be to market it to the most die hard of the die hard who would buy it anyways.

As for the 2 cd (or 1 cd) set, I imagine it'll feature the remastered versions of the songs, off the remastered albums.... the Beach Boys cd that came out about two years ago was awesome, lots of remastered and stereo versions of stuff like "Let him Run Wild", etc.  So even though they've released these over and over again, I'm sure they'll throw in enough new mixes and remastered versions to make it irresistable anyways at 20 bucks.

I'm pretty confident that the boxset will have a lot of unreleased stuff.  Keep in mind the Smile Sessions did, including the newly found version of Surf's Up.... that's a real gem, who knows how much other stuff they've found?  With the recent news that a newly written David Marks track was recorded, likely for the box set... it kind of shows that they're attempting to make it really, really comprehensive like the GV box set was.  I'll bet they surprise most rational fans. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: over and over on August 08, 2012, 09:53:16 PM
[...]it kind of shows that they're attempting to make it really, really comprehensive like the GV box set was.  I'll bet they surprise most rational fans. 

If they included Brian's 1975 piano demo of "In The Back Of My Mind", I can die a happy man.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 08, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
They might!  Think about the GV boxset though, everything's going great up until about Surf's Up... then they jump to the 15BO/Love You era... then they pretty much jump all the way up to Good Timin... then a couple more tracks and the Beach Boys are gone.  So they spend three and a half full nice CD's then rush the last 15 years or so.  So maybe on this version, they'll try to make it for us who are too cool for school and focus more on those 70's tracks and albums, as painful as it may be in some instances :) 

I think stuff like "My Diane", or piano demos, or whatever from that era would really help tell the story. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 08, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
It's just that there have been so many configurations of Beach Boys releases over the years, it would be nice if someone would finally settle on a definitive catalog.  For a Beach Boys fan, it's almost impossible to be a completist.  But perhaps that's part of the fun.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 08, 2012, 10:14:02 PM
How can folks not understand why other folks are a little annoyed that a fugly (LET'S TAKE THIS PICTURE OF SURFBOARDS AND UP THE SATURATION 10,000%!!!), boring picture of surfboards that represents a very small portion of their career is yet again the album cover? They've done decent work with best ofs in the past (not always), and the That's Why God Made The Radio cover was great on every level and didn't resort to this sort of predictable, "designed in 10 minutes by someone who hasn't heard a note of the band's music" bullshittery (imo).


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 10:17:02 PM
I think the hits comps just seem really ... um ... unnecessary. Sounds of Summer and Warmth of the Sun are each fabulous, each has more songs than the individual discs of 50 Big Ones, and each are just excellent overall. They're not that old, they've sold a bunch. To my mind, just tweak one or both of those to include new tracks, and package them together if you must have a two-disc set. But otherwise you have a situation where a record company is taking the twofers, the boxed set and the hits comps out of print, and replacing them with album reissues that are more expensive, have no bonus tracks, and with shorter and arguably inferior hits collections.

Hmm. I've kind of talked myself out of being enthusiastic about this.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: MBE on August 08, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
I think the hits comps just seem really ... um ... unnecessary. Sounds of Summer and Warmth of the Sun are each fabulous, each has more songs than the individual discs of 50 Big Ones, and each are just excellent overall. They're not that old, they've sold a bunch. To my mind, just tweak one or both of those to include new tracks, and package them together if you must have a two-disc set. But otherwise you have a situation where a record company is taking the twofers, the boxed set and the hits comps out of print, and replacing them with album reissues that are more expensive, have no bonus tracks, and with shorter and arguably inferior hits collections.

Hmm. I've kind of talked myself out of being enthusiastic about this.
You have it correct in every way.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: DonnyL on August 08, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
eh, these two hits comps are kinda silly but were we really expecting anything else? i mean, they're gonna do well and it's a good idea from a business standpoint.

but there is something kind of perverse about the Kokomo/You're So Good to Me/Wild Honey sequence ... in fact, the single disc track list is downright weird, which reminds me of Endless Summer.

A genius idea would have been to reissue 'Endless Summer' with an updated track list and do a whole TV campaign. Keep that same weird cover because it looks like Smiley Smile.

i mean, it's a ca$h-grabber, that's all. and that's cool. these best of sets are not for us ... i'm certain the box will right all the wrongs. bring on 'wouldn't it be nice to live again'.

and this is coming from someone who thinks the 'That's Why God Made the Radio' LP is something of a sham. Although I have learned to love 'From Here to Back Again'.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 08, 2012, 10:36:08 PM
I think the hits comps just seem really ... um ... unnecessary. Sounds of Summer and Warmth of the Sun are each fabulous, each has more songs than the individual discs of 50 Big Ones, and each are just excellent overall. They're not that old, they've sold a bunch. To my mind, just tweak one or both of those to include new tracks, and package them together if you must have a two-disc set. But otherwise you have a situation where a record company is taking the twofers, the boxed set and the hits comps out of print, and replacing them with album reissues that are more expensive, have no bonus tracks, and with shorter and arguably inferior hits collections.

Hmm. I've kind of talked myself out of being enthusiastic about this.

How old are you Wirestone?  I'm just curious that it's taken you so long to understand capitalism.  Capital... Capitol... where have we seen that word before? 

Lemme get this straight: You're dissapointed... that the MUSIC INDUSTRY is doing some sketchy sh*t?  Come on.  You already knew that. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 08, 2012, 10:41:20 PM
I think the hits comps just seem really ... um ... unnecessary. Sounds of Summer and Warmth of the Sun are each fabulous, each has more songs than the individual discs of 50 Big Ones, and each are just excellent overall. They're not that old, they've sold a bunch. To my mind, just tweak one or both of those to include new tracks, and package them together if you must have a two-disc set. But otherwise you have a situation where a record company is taking the twofers, the boxed set and the hits comps out of print, and replacing them with album reissues that are more expensive, have no bonus tracks, and with shorter and arguably inferior hits collections.

Hmm. I've kind of talked myself out of being enthusiastic about this.
You have it correct in every way.

I hasten to add, I will probably buy most of if not all of these reissues. But to me, the only way this doesn't feel just the slightest bit opportunistic is if we know for a fact that the rest of the catalog is coming, that none of the old bonus tracks will be consigned to oblivion (i.e., a past masters kind of situation), and that the eventual box is really fabulous.

Everything so far has been handled with class, so I hope for the best. But this is just a step along the road.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 08, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
...but it's definately opportunistic.  No doubt about it. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dunderhead on August 08, 2012, 11:23:26 PM
I won't be getting any of these until the box set is announced. What's with the "Rebooted" title? A play on words? Will the box be nothing be "bootleg" material, rarities and unreleased tracks?
I'm not terribly interested if it's not. If it's just all the standard albums plus a bonus disc or something I'll probably skip it and just download the tracks that I want from Amazon.

I'm sort of burnt out on the Beach Boys though. Not their music, I've actually been listening to that a lot recently, just all the promotion and marketing and hype. I don't care about a box set, I don't want a box set, all I want it the music.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on August 08, 2012, 11:41:31 PM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.

I get that they’re named the BEACH BOYS, i managed to catch that part. This seems to be the go-to response now for this topic, which seems to always miss the point (i suspect on purpose to be glib)--it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative. Obviously the surfing motif is the angle that sells, so it’s been used for decades, there’s nothing new here, but that doesn’t mean it should just be accepted because it’s standard practice. It undermines the vast majority of the music and the group’s legacy simply because it’s an incredibly narrow representation, done so to make more money from the band. How is it okay to represent the entire history of the band by only truly accounting for the first two years when they were kids? Where’s the surfing on Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Volume 2, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days, Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, M.I.U., L.A., etc.? Would it have made sense to have surfboards on those album covers too? Where’s the surfing on anything other than the first three records, which span NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR out of FIFTY YEARS? Taking these two new Greatest Hits releases, on the 1 disc version, there are 3 out of 20 songs that are about surfing: 15%. The 2 disc version has 4 out of 50 songs: 8%. Yet there it is: a gaudy, stock-image-like photo of surfboards lined up on a beach. Isn’t that cheapening the band’s overall career? This is the best way to go about representing the band? To, without fail, do this EVERY TIME? From their very own record label? It’s like we’re caught in an infinity loop. Yes, i get that most of their early music is about escapism and glorifying a simpler life, but there are other metaphors and images that could be used instead of the very specific surf imagery that is used year after year after year. This sort of one-angle dumbing down of a subject in general is a social disease, certainly not just with the Beach Boys.   

Just my two lousy cents.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dunderhead on August 08, 2012, 11:57:53 PM
And for that matter, why exactly does "Beach" = "Surfing"?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 12:01:23 AM
it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative.

AW YEAH


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dunderhead on August 09, 2012, 12:04:14 AM
it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative.

AW YEAH

I don't get it


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 09, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 09, 2012, 12:13:08 AM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4si11SfeG1qaxihzo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1344582778&Signature=cLpB%2BriNmal0DuS4%2FjPdG64tP0w%3D)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 09, 2012, 12:25:23 AM
No need to get catty…!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative.

AW YEAH

I don't get it

I was agreein' with him to the max. He nailed it. ^_^


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Alex on August 09, 2012, 01:09:26 AM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.

I get that they’re named the BEACH BOYS, i managed to catch that part. This seems to be the go-to response now for this topic, which seems to always miss the point (i suspect on purpose to be glib)--it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative. Obviously the surfing motif is the angle that sells, so it’s been used for decades, there’s nothing new here, but that doesn’t mean it should just be accepted because it’s standard practice. It undermines the vast majority of the music and the group’s legacy simply because it’s an incredibly narrow representation, done so to make more money from the band. How is it okay to represent the entire history of the band by only truly accounting for the first two years when they were kids? Where’s the surfing on Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Volume 2, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days, Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, M.I.U., L.A., etc.? Would it have made sense to have surfboards on those album covers too? Where’s the surfing on anything other than the first three records, which span NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR out of FIFTY YEARS? Taking these two new Greatest Hits releases, on the 1 disc version, there are 3 out of 20 songs that are about surfing: 15%. The 2 disc version has 4 out of 50 songs: 8%. Yet there it is: a gaudy, stock-image-like photo of surfboards lined up on a beach. Isn’t that cheapening the band’s overall career? This is the best way to go about representing the band? To, without fail, do this EVERY TIME? From their very own record label? It’s like we’re caught in an infinity loop. Yes, i get that most of their early music is about escapism and glorifying a simpler life, but there are other metaphors and images that could be used instead of the very specific surf imagery that is used year after year after year. This sort of one-angle dumbing down of a subject in general is a social disease, certainly not just with the Beach Boys.   

Just my two lousy cents.

Actually, there was surfing on MIU..."I wanna go surfin' where I dig it the most in Hawaii..."


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on August 09, 2012, 01:52:50 AM
Well that changes it all now, doesn't it..


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on August 09, 2012, 02:41:28 AM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

There is no perfect image. Who said anything about the perfect image? Yeah, they gotta pick something. So something has to = surfboards nearly every single time? Hey, what about a car? Didn’t they write just as many songs about cars? Wait a second, they’re called THE BEACH BOYS, they can’t make songs about cars! That doesn’t have anything to do with surfing or the beach and they’re called THE BEACH BOYS! What’s going on here??? Once you pick a name have a name picked for you when you’re teenagers just starting out, you must stick to that theme 4 lyfe.

Seriously though, what about a design (using the band name and title) that does away with the problematic idea of using a photograph to try to capture 50 years of a band’s career? Something well designed, tasteful, classy, and even colorful and eye-catching. You’d think a group who revolutionized and forever changed popular music in composition, arranging, production, and vocal performance/harmony deserves something of quality rather than making their releases look like soda ads, no? What, Greatest Hits packages by The Beach Boys can only sell if they have these dumb covers, if they keep shoving a one-dimensional, grossly oversimplified image of the group down the public’s throat? Do The Beetlez continually get reduced to the first year of their existence? Hey, it’s those mop top bubblegum guys with matching suits that have a harmonica on every song! Do they ever for that matter? Has it happened to them even ONCE?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 09, 2012, 03:44:10 AM
Yright, of course, and no-one uses pics of insects on Beatles covers either.

Think I'm just accepting of the fact that the label has done this kind of thing forever and ain't gonna change so there's little we can do but sit back and enjoy the music, which is what it's all about.

The Appeal to the Great Spirit would be the best bet for me but it was used on Ten Years of Harmony and the gaudy use with the 50th anniversary hasn't lit my fire.

A Frank Holmes charicature of the band might work but also harks back to stuff they only did for a few months out of their 50 years. The cover of TWGMTR ain't brilliant but it deals with the issues we're rattling out here. A contemporary photo of the band probably wouldn't cut it.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Luke_Barshack on August 09, 2012, 03:55:47 AM
I think that the greatest hits packages were a bit of a wasted opportunity – and I’m not usually much of a cynic.

I saw this as chance to consolidate the Beach Boy’s career achievements in the mind of the public.

To best honest, I was hoping for two discs, in chronological order, that hit most of the milestones.

I hate to mention them in the same sentence as the BBs (again), but it’s something that Apple have done with The Beatles’ back catalogue very well.

You have the ‘1’ standard hits package, and then the red and blue compilations that hit most of the key career beats in – and this is key – chronological order.

In my opinion this creates a clear narrative of the band for the collective public consciousness. People have a general idea of each ‘era’ and pick up ANY Beatles comp, you can roughly follow that path along with the music.

In my opinion, BB comps have been packaged and re-packaged so many times, in so many different ways, it confuses the narrative of the band and leans too heavily on a particular audience, usually the surfer/hits side of things.

It was wishful thinking, but I thought these hits packages could be the final word on The Beach Boys wonderful career, sending a clear message to the record-buying public as to how the BB story unfolds.

To go from ‘Kokomo’ to ‘Kiss Me Baby’, for me, just doesn’t sit right and I strongly feel that it makes the band’s overall output to the uninitiated feel like a strange mess. I truly believe this mismanagement of the band’s hits albums is why I’ve spent some time over the years making mix tapes and convincing people of the true legacy of the BBs.

Or maybe I’m just obsessive compulsive or something! 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dunderhead on August 09, 2012, 03:56:06 AM
What about, you know, just a photograph of the band?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 09, 2012, 03:58:07 AM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

There is no perfect image. Who said anything about the perfect image? Yeah, they gotta pick something. So something has to = surfboards nearly every single time? Hey, what about a car? Didn’t they write just as many songs about cars? Wait a second, they’re called THE BEACH BOYS, they can’t make songs about cars! That doesn’t have anything to do with surfing or the beach and they’re called THE BEACH BOYS! What’s going on here??? Once you pick a name have a name picked for you when you’re teenagers just starting out, you must stick to that theme 4 lyfe.

Seriously though, what about a design (using the band name and title) that does away with the problematic idea of using a photograph to try to capture 50 years of a band’s career? Something well designed, tasteful, classy, and even colorful and eye-catching. You’d think a group who revolutionized and forever changed popular music in composition, arranging, production, and vocal performance/harmony deserves something of quality rather than making their releases look like soda ads, no? What, Greatest Hits packages by The Beach Boys can only sell if they have these dumb covers, if they keep shoving a one-dimensional, grossly oversimplified image of the group down the public’s throat? Do The Beetlez continually get reduced to the first year of their existence? Hey, it’s those mop top bubblegum guys with matching suits that have a harmonica on every song! Do they ever for that matter? Has it happened to them even ONCE?


I'm sure you would love to see the Brother logo on the compilations, I would anyway. But then again, the Brother logo has nothing to do with the Beach Boys really. In fact it's a statue in San Francisco that Dean Torrence saw and liked when he designed the logo. My point being: The public recognise the surf board as something to do with the Beach Boys, Capitol knows this, and therefore uses it. Easy as that.
And come on, why do you really care that much? The collection isn't meant for use hardcore fans (all though we WILL buy it as AGD said), so rather start worrying about the box set logo ;)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Matt H on August 09, 2012, 04:53:38 AM
It seems like they should have sold 50 Big Ones throughout the whole tour, but maybe they wanted to push the new album, and figured that people would buy 50 Big Ones instead of it.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 09, 2012, 05:21:14 AM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.

I get that they’re named the BEACH BOYS, i managed to catch that part. This seems to be the go-to response now for this topic, which seems to always miss the point (i suspect on purpose to be glib)--it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative. Obviously the surfing motif is the angle that sells, so it’s been used for decades, there’s nothing new here, but that doesn’t mean it should just be accepted because it’s standard practice. It undermines the vast majority of the music and the group’s legacy simply because it’s an incredibly narrow representation, done so to make more money from the band. How is it okay to represent the entire history of the band by only truly accounting for the first two years when they were kids? Where’s the surfing on Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Volume 2, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days, Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, M.I.U., L.A., etc.? Would it have made sense to have surfboards on those album covers too? Where’s the surfing on anything other than the first three records, which span NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR out of FIFTY YEARS? Taking these two new Greatest Hits releases, on the 1 disc version, there are 3 out of 20 songs that are about surfing: 15%. The 2 disc version has 4 out of 50 songs: 8%. Yet there it is: a gaudy, stock-image-like photo of surfboards lined up on a beach. Isn’t that cheapening the band’s overall career? This is the best way to go about representing the band? To, without fail, do this EVERY TIME? From their very own record label? It’s like we’re caught in an infinity loop. Yes, i get that most of their early music is about escapism and glorifying a simpler life, but there are other metaphors and images that could be used instead of the very specific surf imagery that is used year after year after year. This sort of one-angle dumbing down of a subject in general is a social disease, certainly not just with the Beach Boys.   

Just my two lousy cents.


best post on this thread so far. I fully agree with all of it. (btw there is surf in Surf's Up  ;D )


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 09, 2012, 05:33:03 AM
I think that the greatest hits packages were a bit of a wasted opportunity – and I’m not usually much of a cynic.

I saw this as chance to consolidate the Beach Boy’s career achievements in the mind of the public.

To best honest, I was hoping for two discs, in chronological order, that hit most of the milestones.

I hate to mention them in the same sentence as the BBs (again), but it’s something that Apple have done with The Beatles’ back catalogue very well.

You have the ‘1’ standard hits package, and then the red and blue compilations that hit most of the key career beats in – and this is key – chronological order.

In my opinion this creates a clear narrative of the band for the collective public consciousness. People have a general idea of each ‘era’ and pick up ANY Beatles comp, you can roughly follow that path along with the music.

In my opinion, BB comps have been packaged and re-packaged so many times, in so many different ways, it confuses the narrative of the band and leans too heavily on a particular audience, usually the surfer/hits side of things.

It was wishful thinking, but I thought these hits packages could be the final word on The Beach Boys wonderful career, sending a clear message to the record-buying public as to how the BB story unfolds.

To go from ‘Kokomo’ to ‘Kiss Me Baby’, for me, just doesn’t sit right and I strongly feel that it makes the band’s overall output to the uninitiated feel like a strange mess. I truly believe this mismanagement of the band’s hits albums is why I’ve spent some time over the years making mix tapes and convincing people of the true legacy of the BBs.

Or maybe I’m just obsessive compulsive or something! 


Very true, has there ever been a really goos BB's comp? I cannot recall... Sure Endless Summer was well played, but nothing really happened after that...
Imagine Beach Boys red and blue, that could've been something. What the hell ever, screw all the idiots who buy 'best of' packages, they always suck. Real music lovers listen to albums, not hits packages, certainly not predicatable ramble packages like the ones Capitol issues for the Beach Boys. gimme box and I'll be happy.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 09, 2012, 05:42:02 AM
All the BBs comps are good - great in fact - they just mostly dish out the same classics time and again.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 09, 2012, 06:26:42 AM
What about, you know, just a photograph of the band?

This!!! I guess there was a certain point where actually putting your face on an album cover became uncool, unless you're a teen pop star who needs it to sell records? Utter bull. I can understand not wanting to put a picture of the 70s/80s band on a cover - long bearded, robed Mike Love shouldn't be anywhere near an album cover (i jest) .....but there were plenty of periods where the band actually looked good. Hell, NOW is one of them! Even just something that alludes to their likeness - like the back cover of Warmth of The Sun.

They're The Beach Boys, they shouldn't be marketed as some faceless group.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: mammy blue on August 09, 2012, 06:32:01 AM
I wrote this in another thread, but it seems to be focussed on interpersonal board relationship discussions at the moment.

I've already preordered Today, Summer Days and Smiley. I'm considering purchasing the earlier albums for the mono mixes, but I have a general question about them. Are there a lot of discernable and interesting differences between the mono and stereo mixes of those early Beach Boys songs? I'm thinking of the Beatles mixes, and how there are various edits, mistakes, and mixing decisions that pop out at you when you've heard the alternative mix many times. Is the early BB catalog at all like that when going from stereo to mono? Any insights you may have are welcome.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: adam78 on August 09, 2012, 07:09:48 AM
I got into the Beach Boys heavily right around the year 2000, so my collection has only really consisted of the 2fers for all this time for the main early albums. But as time went by, and I heard my more mono like the US capitol singles boxset etc then I knew I was missing out! Not for everyone, and this discussion I have seen countless times on here, but for people like me who believe a lot of the power and feel of their early work is lost in the wide separation stereo versions, I cannot wait for these to be released!
Listening to the HMV clips has truly got me excited. Songs like farmers daughter sound so much more than they ever did on the stereo counterparts.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Runaways on August 09, 2012, 07:17:54 AM
i have no use for these greatest hits packages.  Luckily I don't have the completist mindset ha.  50 Big Ones is definitely something I'll pass on too, just getting the single on itunes will be good enough for me.  Hopefully the real boxset is where we'll get the good stuff.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 07:25:24 AM
And for that matter, why exactly does "Beach" = "Surfing"?

Maybe because their first song was called Surfin' and in response, a promo man named them The Beach Boys? Without the first, you don't get the second.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 09, 2012, 07:26:42 AM
[Where’s the surfing on Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Volume 2, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days, Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, M.I.U., L.A., etc.?

Warmth of the Sun, Don’t Back Down, Girls on the Beach, Don’t Hurt My Little Sister, California Girls, That’s Not Me, Surf Up, Little Pad, Wild Honey, Diamond Head, Do It Again, Cool Cool Water (SUN-flower), Don’t Go Near The Water, You Need a Mess of Help To Stand Alone, California, It’s OK, Good Time, Kona Coast, Full Sail



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: grillo on August 09, 2012, 07:29:21 AM
I wrote this in another thread, but it seems to be focussed on interpersonal board relationship discussions at the moment.

I've already preordered Today, Summer Days and Smiley. I'm considering purchasing the earlier albums for the mono mixes, but I have a general question about them. Are there a lot of discernable and interesting differences between the mono and stereo mixes of those early Beach Boys songs? I'm thinking of the Beatles mixes, and how there are various edits, mistakes, and mixing decisions that pop out at you when you've heard the alternative mix many times. Is the early BB catalog at all like that when going from stereo to mono? Any insights you may have are welcome.
The Mono mixes are always my go-to since they (a) sound really punchy and tight and (b) they are the mixes BW made. Often they have longer fades and other slight edits. If you haven't given the mono early albums a listen then you have a lot to look forward to!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 07:29:27 AM
This is all really great, exciting news, but that cover is so insulting. Capitol and capitalism will go to the grave insisting that the Beach Boys can and should be reduced to their first two years as a band, a surf group, period. It’s pathological at this point. I’ve never, ever seen anyone or anything continually belittled and boxed-in like they have over the decades. Even Christmas Harmonies has a damn surfboard. Just in case, for one brief moment, you might forget that they were/are a surf band. Also, don’t forget that in the overall scope of the group's career, Smile does not exist. Neither does Love You. Kewl.

Their name is The Beach Boys. Lends itself to surfboards. The idea of a band named The Beach Boys being taken too seriously is kinda funny, if you think about it.
I think surf culture and surfboards are pretty boss, myself. Being linked with them isn't a bad thing.

I get that they’re named the BEACH BOYS, i managed to catch that part. This seems to be the go-to response now for this topic, which seems to always miss the point (i suspect on purpose to be glib)--it’s not about being linked to surf culture, or trying to deny that part of their background...it’s about being reduced to it entirely. The good majority of their catalogue has nothing to do with surfing. And it’s irrelevant what one’s opinion is on surfing culture or what kind of image it carries with it; this is about being accurate and not misrepresentative. Obviously the surfing motif is the angle that sells, so it’s been used for decades, there’s nothing new here, but that doesn’t mean it should just be accepted because it’s standard practice. It undermines the vast majority of the music and the group’s legacy simply because it’s an incredibly narrow representation, done so to make more money from the band. How is it okay to represent the entire history of the band by only truly accounting for the first two years when they were kids? Where’s the surfing on Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Volume 2, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days, Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf’s Up, So Tough, Holland, 15 Big Ones, Love You, M.I.U., L.A., etc.? Would it have made sense to have surfboards on those album covers too? Where’s the surfing on anything other than the first three records, which span NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR out of FIFTY YEARS? Taking these two new Greatest Hits releases, on the 1 disc version, there are 3 out of 20 songs that are about surfing: 15%. The 2 disc version has 4 out of 50 songs: 8%. Yet there it is: a gaudy, stock-image-like photo of surfboards lined up on a beach. Isn’t that cheapening the band’s overall career? This is the best way to go about representing the band? To, without fail, do this EVERY TIME? From their very own record label? It’s like we’re caught in an infinity loop. Yes, i get that most of their early music is about escapism and glorifying a simpler life, but there are other metaphors and images that could be used instead of the very specific surf imagery that is used year after year after year. This sort of one-angle dumbing down of a subject in general is a social disease, certainly not just with the Beach Boys.   

Just my two lousy cents.


You are well worded, thought out, obviously passionate, and I respect that. But I disagree that a surfboard, a memorable talisman for their career that doesn't connote anything more than say, Iron Maiden's "Eddie" character on their album covers, cheapens them. People wouldn't be complaining if the album was green-bordered with yellow Pet Sounds type, even tho that is literally the only Beach Boys album that sounds that way.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Micha on August 09, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
I don't mind the surfboards. It's a symbol of having fun, and I like having fun. Listening to the deeper songs and enjoying the emotions they give me is in its own way fun too. So surf boards are absolutely OK.

I'm thrilled about the mono versions being issued. Years ago some kind person sent me rips of the old mono vinyls, and they sounded so much better than the ping pong stereo ones. I always hear then when I'm jogging. The only twofers I have are the 1965 to 1971 ones, excluding Party. I don't care for the stereo versions of Fun, Fun, Fun or Wendy... I probably will buy some of them. Not so sure about Today! and Summer Days. Do I really need stereo versions of that? Even if they are much better than the 1960s stereo mixes.

The new GH comps... I have the GV box set, there's more on that than I need to have.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: joshferrell on August 09, 2012, 07:43:31 AM
the cd cover should have the members walking on the beach pimped out with chains around their necks,wearing velvet clothing and hats with feathers with some fine sexy Ho's walking next to them in skimpy bikini and navel rings and it should feature their new song "Ho's on da beach"..which is basically "Smart Girls' with updated lyrics....word yo. :hat


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 09, 2012, 08:01:51 AM
the cd cover should have the members walking on the beach pimped out with chains around their necks,wearing velvet clothing and hats with feathers with some fine sexy Ho's walking next to them in skimpy bikini and navel rings and it should feature their new song "Ho's on da beach"..which is basically "Smart Girls' with updated lyrics....word yo. :hat

This.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: JanBerryFarm on August 09, 2012, 08:42:10 AM
Stereo version of 409...

what next ?  ::)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 09, 2012, 09:11:41 AM
And for that matter, why exactly does "Beach" = "Surfing"?

... because it did on their first album.  And their second.  And their third.  And their.... well, you get the picture.


Waiiiiit, no you still don't get the picture.  You must be a moron. 


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 09, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
Yright, of course, and no-one uses pics of insects on Beatles covers either.

No, but they use a guitar.  It's in the logo.

So that means that the Beatles are reduced to a guitar.  We should be up in arms at this horrible atrocity.  What about ringo.  WHAT ABOUT RINGO mo'fos!!!!

Also, why is the piano ignored?  WHY DOES CAPITOL INSIST ON LABELING THE BEATLES AS A GUITAR BAND WHEN THEY SOMETIMES PLAYED THE PIANO!!!!!!??????!!!!!



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 09, 2012, 09:18:27 AM
Yright, of course, and no-one uses pics of insects on Beatles covers either.

No, but they use a guitar.  It's in the logo.

So that means that the Beatles are reduced to a guitar.  We should be up in arms at this horrible atrocity.  What about ringo.  WHAT ABOUT RINGO MOTHERf***ERS!!!!

Also, why is the piano ignored?  WHY DOES CAPITOL INSIST ON LABELING THE BEATLES AS A GUITAR BAND WHEN THEY SOMETIMES PLAYED THE PIANO!!!!!!??????!!!!!


The Beatles logo (I'm thinking of the uber-famous one with the drop-T) doesn't have a guitar in it. The Monkees, on the other hand....


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ron on August 09, 2012, 09:24:59 AM
Good point!

So that means that the Monkees are reduced to a guitar.  We should be up in arms at this horrible atrocity.  What about Micky.  WHAT ABOUT MICKY MOTHERf***ERS!!!!

Also, why is the piano ignored?  WHY DOES CAPITOL INSIST ON LABELING THE MONKEES AS A GUITAR BAND WHEN THEY SOMETIMES PLAYED THE PIANO!!!!!!???!!!!!





Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 09, 2012, 09:28:16 AM
Good point!

So that means that the Monkees are reduced to a guitar.  We should be up in arms at this horrible atrocity.  What about Micky.  WHAT ABOUT MICKY MOTHERf***ERS!!!!

Also, why is the piano ignored?  WHY DOES CAPITOL INSIST ON LABELING THE MONKEES AS A GUITAR BAND WHEN THEY SOMETIMES PLAYED THE PIANO!!!!!!???!!!!!





http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humility (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humility)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rich Panteluk on August 09, 2012, 09:54:21 AM
Cabinessenecking asked has there ever been a good BB comp.  It was by no means complete and had a few really weird choices but I loved the Sunshine Dream cassette and 2 vinyl lp set.  I remember I had to buy a second cassette as it was a really long comp and I played it so much it got stretched out.  Lots of post 66 material.  Again it was in NO WAY complete but I loved the non obvious selection of tracks.  Anyone else remember and like this comp?  Crazy weird cover too.  I'll try to dig it out and post the the track listing (although someone will undoubtedly beat me to it).

With respect to the new releases I will buy the 50 Big Ones (Have to have the new version of IIT on cd) and ALL of the reissued albums on cd.  Some may say I am a sucker completist (probably true, although I am passing on the single disc best of).  I do REALLY REALLY hope for lots of rarities on the upcoming box set though...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 09, 2012, 09:56:37 AM
Me too. I'll buy this regardless of what's on the box. Can't wait.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 09:59:07 AM
Cabinessenecking asked has there ever been a good BB comp.  It was by no means complete and had a few really weird choices but I loved the Sunshine Dream cassette and 2 vinyl lp set.  I remember I had to buy a second cassette as it was a really long comp and I played it so much it got stretched out.  Lots of post 66 material.  Again it was in NO WAY complete but I loved the non obvious selection of tracks.  Anyone else remember and like this comp?  Crazy weird cover too.  I'll try to dig it out and post the the track listing (although someone will undoubtedly beat me to it).
 


Yep, that was a good one. It had deeper cuts because it was the third in the set of Capitol double comps, after Endless Summer and Spirit Of America. But what an awful cover. Anyone who thinks the new comp covers are bad should look at that one.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: RONDEMON on August 09, 2012, 10:08:01 AM
I thought the "Classics Selected by Brian Wilson" is a great compilation and single handedly turned me into a Beach Boys nut.
It has lots of deep cuts and hits too. It's certainly enough to represent all of their high points.

Even in the liner notes Brian says he would have included "The Night Was So Young" and a few others too if he had the chance.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pancakerecords on August 09, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
Perhaps someone has touched on this, but since we know that Mark Linett has done some work on a stereo "Wild Honey" mix, and the song Wild Honey is on 50BO's, perhaps we will see a new stereo mix of said track. That would be enough to make me shell out the money for the CD's.

Also - I don't hate the cover art, but there are so many cool images of the band out there I don't understand why all of these recent compilations never use them.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: GoofyJeff on August 09, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
Perhaps someone has touched on this, but since we know that Mark Linett has done some work on a stereo "Wild Honey" mix, and the song Wild Honey is on 50BO's, perhaps we will see a new stereo mix of said track. That would be enough to make me shell out the money for the CD's.

This.

It would not surprise me at all if the set features all the new mixes, meaning stereo Good Vibes etc.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 10:39:23 AM
The Time-Life one is pure genius, especially the Al Jardine body.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mark H on August 09, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
I like the image for the GH set, the 50 Big Ones cover doesn't need '50 big ones, greatest hits' though as it's too busy.  Just put 'Big Ones' under the BB50 logo in the same font.

I won't buy any of the remastered albums until we know that the other main albums are getting the same treatment.  At least the missing 60's albums and hopefully C&TP, Holland and the late 70s stuff (especially Love You).

I'll certainly 'acquire' the new albums when they become available but won't start paying cash for an incomplete collection.

Hopefully the box will be 'rarities' focused as we have 2 new GH sets for Joe Public.

Ideally a 'complete box' of remastered albums AND a multi disc rarities set.

If we end up getting basically an updated GV box I will be dissapointed.

Having said that I'm seeing The Beach Boys live next month (never thought I'd say that) and I love TWGMTR and TSS so as a fan I feel spoiled already!



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 09, 2012, 10:51:05 AM
I would have liked an updated version of the 15 Big Ones cover. Oh Earcandy!!!!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 10:52:01 AM
If folks don't buy the first wave of reissues, the second wave may never hit the shore, at least in the USA.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 09, 2012, 10:54:02 AM
Out of the covers posted, my fave rave is Absolute Best Vol 2.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mark H on August 09, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
If folks don't buy the first wave of reissues, the second wave may never hit the shore, at least in the USA.

This is the quandary, I want to show 'support' for the reissues but (and it's an OCD/collector thing!) I wouldn't buy a set of anything unless I knew the whole series (film series/book series etc) was being done in the same style/design/remastering etc.

Capitol/TBB have my cash for the box set/tour/tour merchandise/TWGMTR/TSS at the mo anyway so they should have gotten the hint from all Beach Boys fans/general public/#3 album that it's worth doing this properly!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 09, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
The first 'Best of' The Beach Boys has just the coolest cover - though i don't think that photo would be as cool with Beach Boys anno 2012.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 09, 2012, 11:16:20 AM
I wanted to chime in about the Time Life cover, and the Time Life music compilations in general. I have a stack of them myself, most for my favorite era of the 60's. Apart from the CD's being a great one-stop resource for all kinds of classic and semi-obscure singles from a given era, and prior to digital downloading took over, the cover artwork was in my opinion, terrific. Most of the covers have that similar style of art as shown on the Beach Boys collection posted on the previous page, and they're a great depiction of the music you're about to experience in a very idealized way - there is one volume with a girl dancing with a great big smile on her face on one volume, and it's a very cool visual. Another great one shows a group of young musicians in a band playing some tunes in their garage, with the door wide open. If there were a collection of those in print form suitable for framing I'd seriously hang some up on my wall. I second the praise for that artwork, it emphasizes the stylized and idealized part of the BB's which continues to draw people into the music.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
I subscribed to the Time-Life 60's series when they were coming out, got one in the mail every month. Great discs. I do like most of the artwork they used, the thing they were going for on the Beach Boys set was done more artfully by Guy Peellaert in Rock Dreams, in my opinion.

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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 11:36:09 AM
I'm rarely opposed to best ofs, but in the case of the Beach Boys, it'd just be nice to see, after a thousand different cheap attempts, a best of that accurately represents the band. It's somehow yet to happen, it could be done easily on two discs, and no, it doesn't have to include obscure fanboy sh*t for someone like me to think they did a good job. Include the hits (ALL of them, no inexplicable exclusions as is always the case), include the singles, include a couple fan favorites (preferably while making sure all members get the songwriting spotlight at least once), include something you can't get elsewhere and give it some exclusive liner notes beyond some dumbass explaining why the band is important to the world.

No need to serve us the same reheated, only slightly stirred bullsh*t every two years - make it definitive and worthwhile. Any level-headed asshole on this board could probably do a better job overall than a lot of these recent efforts. This tracklist certainly isn't the worst, but there's still some very obvious flaws that I can't make sense of.

I'm usually with you Runners, but what's wrong with Fifty Big Ones. You got "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "Sail On, Sailor", "Good Timin'", etc. I think they did pretty decently with this one.

Very underwhelmed.

After all we've been given thus far? Just the fact that the Beach Boys catalog, albeit a good chunk of it, finally will be treated properly with individual CD releases in mono and stereo is very unexpected, in my mind.
I'm a vinyl guy far more than CD so there's that. I also like and have mono mixes and never have given a darn about the stereo especially the latter day remixes.  I loved the tour, like the new LP, and am happy they got back together, but hit sets mean nothing anymore to me. A box set-CD, Vinyl, or both-with unreleased stuff would be great, but so far I'm not impressed with what has been announced. Now if they were putting out analog mastered vinyl albums I would be happy as the original LP's with original covers deserve to have a complete reissue to give us all the chance to buy them as they originally sounded in mint condition (note the recent posting about Sunflower by Steve Desper), but I'm fine with the CD"s we have and don't feel a need to buy them again.  I was hoping to hear about some great archive stuff coming out not the three dozenth reissue of I Get Around.

The archive stuff is coming though, Mike. So I wouldn't be worried. Plus, all these awesome Beach Boys albums will be more widely available again, I'd think. So I think this is all a good thing. Plus, I felt the twofers were always kinda disrespectful to the band. They deserved to have the albums issued on their own. The Beatles didn't have a Abbey Road/Let It Be twofer, so why should The Beach Boys have a Sunflower/Surf's Up one. They should be allowed to stand on their own.

If folks don't buy the first wave of reissues, the second wave may never hit the shore, at least in the USA.

Right on. If Capitol doesn't see sales numbers, it is possible we won't see any more reissues.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Heysaboda on August 09, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
What about, you know, just a photograph of the band?

This!

For example, a picture of the band today, and on the reverse side, a pic from 50 years ago.

C'mon Capitol geniuses, make it happen!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 09, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 09, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 12:30:12 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

I don't mean ALL unreleased stuff. I highly doubt that would happen. But likely something comparable to 1993 box set. In which case, I'd still pick the one with some previously unreleased stuff, rather than something like The Beatles put out.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Zach95 on August 09, 2012, 12:55:40 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

I don't mean ALL unreleased stuff. I highly doubt that would happen. But likely something comparable to 1993 box set. In which case, I'd still pick the one with some previously unreleased stuff, rather than something like The Beatles put out.

Yeah, I'm with you here. I'd much rather the box set leave the albums alone, unless they were considering two box sets, which has yet to be mentioned.  I mean, we get more product if the box set isn't just the 12 remasters with maybe WH Friends or whatever thrown in there and instead a GV like box with unreleased material like WIBNTLA. I'd much rather have that scenario than sacrifice archival releases for something like stereo WH, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 09, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
Does anyone else feel that we should merge this thread with the other Remasters thread?  It seems a little tedious to have two threads going on the same subject and having to check both.  Now that we've all read the official press release in this thread...I think we can put this thread together with the other one...no?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 01:10:37 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

I don't mean ALL unreleased stuff. I highly doubt that would happen. But likely something comparable to 1993 box set. In which case, I'd still pick the one with some previously unreleased stuff, rather than something like The Beatles put out.

Yeah, I'm with you here. I'd much rather the box set leave the albums alone, unless they were considering two box sets, which has yet to be mentioned.  I mean, we get more product if the box set isn't just the 12 remasters with maybe WH Friends or whatever thrown in there and instead a GV like box with unreleased material like WIBNTLA. I'd much rather have that scenario than sacrifice archival releases for something like stereo WH, in my opinion.

Absolutely. You put it much better than I did. I basically want more previously unreleased material released, and something like the '93 box would give us more. If they were to do an "albums box", at best we'd probably get like two discs of "rarities", and if we just stick to stuff like already released b-sides and compilation tracks, there's probably not much room for the stuff many of us are really looking for, like "Live Again", "California Feelin'" from 1974, etc.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: joshferrell on August 09, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
What about, you know, just a photograph of the band?

This!

For example, a picture of the band today, and on the reverse side, a pic from 50 years ago.

C'mon Capitol geniuses, make it happen!

how about a holograph cd  where you turn the cd from side to side asnd they all morph from 50 yeas ago until now,of course Dennis would morph into Foskett and Carl would morph into Al Jardine (if they use an old photo with David marks or visa versa..) :3d


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 09, 2012, 01:42:53 PM
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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
I'm rarely opposed to best ofs, but in the case of the Beach Boys, it'd just be nice to see, after a thousand different cheap attempts, a best of that accurately represents the band. It's somehow yet to happen, it could be done easily on two discs, and no, it doesn't have to include obscure fanboy sh*t for someone like me to think they did a good job. Include the hits (ALL of them, no inexplicable exclusions as is always the case), include the singles, include a couple fan favorites (preferably while making sure all members get the songwriting spotlight at least once), include something you can't get elsewhere and give it some exclusive liner notes beyond some dumbass explaining why the band is important to the world.

No need to serve us the same reheated, only slightly stirred bullsh*t every two years - make it definitive and worthwhile. Any level-headed asshole on this board could probably do a better job overall than a lot of these recent efforts. This tracklist certainly isn't the worst, but there's still some very obvious flaws that I can't make sense of.

I'm usually with you Runners, but what's wrong with Fifty Big Ones. You got "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "Sail On, Sailor", "Good Timin'", etc. I think they did pretty decently with this one.

lawl. Sincerely, I'd been in a car for the majority of the day yesterday and was seemingly, uh, cranky. The cover still blows, the tracklist order still blows, but the selections aren't too bad at all. As with every best of ever, there are a few songs which should be there but aren't and a few songs on there which probably shouldn't be, but still - not bad.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on August 09, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Think I'm just accepting of the fact that the label has done this kind of thing forever and ain't gonna change so there's little we can do but sit back and enjoy the music, which is what it's all about.

Of course, for me the music will always come first, before anything else, even the lyrics. But it’s always nice when the artwork that accompanies a release is good. And i guess i still like to believe that things can change and that we don’t have to accept things just because that’s the way they've always been  :)

The Appeal to the Great Spirit would be the best bet for me but it was used on Ten Years of Harmony and the gaudy use with the 50th anniversary hasn't lit my fire.

A Frank Holmes charicature of the band might work but also harks back to stuff they only did for a few months out of their 50 years. The cover of TWGMTR ain't brilliant but it deals with the issues we're rattling out here. A contemporary photo of the band probably wouldn't cut it.

I completely agree with all of this.




I think that the greatest hits packages were a bit of a wasted opportunity – and I’m not usually much of a cynic.

I saw this as chance to consolidate the Beach Boy’s career achievements in the mind of the public.

To best honest, I was hoping for two discs, in chronological order, that hit most of the milestones.

I hate to mention them in the same sentence as the BBs (again), but it’s something that Apple have done with The Beatles’ back catalogue very well.

You have the ‘1’ standard hits package, and then the red and blue compilations that hit most of the key career beats in – and this is key – chronological order.

In my opinion this creates a clear narrative of the band for the collective public consciousness. People have a general idea of each ‘era’ and pick up ANY Beatles comp, you can roughly follow that path along with the music.

In my opinion, BB comps have been packaged and re-packaged so many times, in so many different ways, it confuses the narrative of the band and leans too heavily on a particular audience, usually the surfer/hits side of things.

It was wishful thinking, but I thought these hits packages could be the final word on The Beach Boys wonderful career, sending a clear message to the record-buying public as to how the BB story unfolds.

To go from ‘Kokomo’ to ‘Kiss Me Baby’, for me, just doesn’t sit right and I strongly feel that it makes the band’s overall output to the uninitiated feel like a strange mess. I truly believe this mismanagement of the band’s hits albums is why I’ve spent some time over the years making mix tapes and convincing people of the true legacy of the BBs.

Or maybe I’m just obsessive compulsive or something! 

This is so well put, filled with very great points that i think get missed often. That narrative is important, and it always gets screwed up with The Beach Boys. You really nailed the difference in how they and The Beatles get handled with their respective compilations.   




You are well worded, thought out, obviously passionate, and I respect that. But I disagree that a surfboard, a memorable talisman for their career that doesn't connote anything more than say, Iron Maiden's "Eddie" character on their album covers, cheapens them. People wouldn't be complaining if the album was green-bordered with yellow Pet Sounds type, even tho that is literally the only Beach Boys album that sounds that way.

To be more specific, i said it cheapens the entirety of their career, the breadth of their catalog, if you will, not necessarily THEM. Because, as i acknowledged (and anyone who denies it would be out of touch with reality), surfing culture is part of their story. Hell, it’s where the story starts. But the point is that it goes on and on, well beyond that. Obviously i don’t need to remind you or anyone else here of this. Iron Maiden has used Eddie on their proper studio albums from day one, and has continued to do so throughout their career. You picked one of the most self-limiting bands to make a comparison. Beach Boys albums didn’t do with surfboard imagery what Iron Maiden albums have continually done with Eddie.

It is because the BB narrative is so layered, morphing so much over the years, that a Pet Sounds color scheme/typeface wouldn’t be a good solution either, as you suggest people would think. It would make as little sense as the surfboards, and for the same reasons. However, i think after having surfboards shoved in people’s faces for so long, a cover that nods to Pet Sounds, at the very least, would be welcomed more than a stock photo of surfboards. Though, of course, not everyone will agree with this. And i say this as a person who is really tired of a certain crowd who puts Pet Sounds on a pedestal at the expense of the rest of the band’s output. That is no different than pretending that the Beach Boys were only a surf band. And that brings us back to the main point--that it should all be represented. Enough with the one-dimensional revisionist take of their history. That’s a really, really tough thing to pull off though. But that’s why i think something that aims to be more neutral would work. Look at the Beatles box sets--it just says THE BEATLES on it. It doesn’t even have color. No, i’m not suggesting that Capitol cheaply swap out band names/logos and call it a day, but something with a similar aim for neutrality could certainly be tried. Would that kill Capitol? Would it kill the band? The buying public? I don’t think so.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: JohnMill on August 09, 2012, 03:34:32 PM
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This is just horrible.  Mike has come up with another epic fail brainstorm in order to enhance the band's image.  They looking friggin' ridiculous.  At least Brian had the good sense to leave his outfit at home.  ::)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
  continually done with Eddie.

It is because the BB narrative is so layered, morphing so much over the years, that a Pet Sounds color scheme/typeface wouldn’t be a good solution either, as you suggest people would think. It would make as little sense as the surfboards, and for the same reasons. However, i think after having surfboards shoved in people’s faces for so long, a cover that nods to Pet Sounds, at the very least, would be welcomed more than a stock photo of surfboards. Though, of course, not everyone will agree with this. And i say this as a person who is really tired of a certain crowd who puts Pet Sounds on a pedestal at the expense of the rest of the band’s output. That is no different than pretending that the Beach Boys were only a surf band. And that brings us back to the main point--that it should all be represented. Enough with the one-dimensional revisionist take of their history. That’s a really, really tough thing to pull off though. But that’s why i think something that aims to be more neutral would work. Look at the Beatles box sets--it just says THE BEATLES on it. It doesn’t even have color. No, i’m not suggesting that Capitol cheaply swap out band names/logos and call it a day, but something with a similar aim for neutrality could certainly be tried. Would that kill Capitol? Would it kill the band? The buying public? I don’t think so.

Fair enough, well stated. A neutral picture of the group would probably be a better choice.

I still dig surfboards, tho. And I think it is far too late in the game to reinvent the band's image in any major fashion. The million compilations idea was already established by the end of the 60's for the Beach Boys, three Best Ofs were released in a two year span. Then there are all the Pickwick albums, repackages of albums with new covers and shortened tracklists, etc. There are bad soundtrack contributions, bad solo projects, everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.
I like it that many "serious" rock fans still think of the band as a joke. It isn't as stifling talking about the band as it is to talk about The Beatles. It is inspiring to me that the band has got to where they are now in terms of perception, considering how tarnished the Beach Boys name was 25 years ago.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 09, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

If we're talking a best of, though, then the decline isn't nearly as apparent as on the 93 box set.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 09, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
.... And the rest of them.

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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 09, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

If we're talking a best of, though, then the decline isn't nearly as apparent as on the 93 box set.

For one disc, true. Over two discs ... dicier.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: HighOnLife on August 09, 2012, 04:54:47 PM
The Warmth of the Sun had some of the best packaging I've ever seen on a Beach Boys product. Nice picture and lettering on the cover. Good pictures of all eras inside. Good selection of tracks, too.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: TV Forces on August 09, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
I loved this one:

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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
Yeah, I couldn't believe it when they replaced the cover for that. Besides the three box sets, that was the best archival BB product of all.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

If we're talking a best of, though, then the decline isn't nearly as apparent as on the 93 box set.

For one disc, true. Over two discs ... dicier.

Looking outside my own fanboyism, these feel like essentials to a best of from after Holland until the present:

"Rock & Roll Music"
"It's OK"
"Honkin' Down The Highway" (really good song, an exclusive single mix exists to give incentive for bigger fans to buy, and Love You really needs some representation)
"Good Timin"
"Goin' On"
"Getcha Back"
"Kokomo"
"That's Why God Made The Radio"
"Isn't It Time?"

Remix any as you see fit (thus making some of the the songs with iffier sound quality more palatable and giving the bigger fans further incentive to buy), and I really don't see any horribly embarrassing inclusions there. Most of these aren't Pet Sounds great or anything, but I'd put a lot of them on par with some of their bigger hits from the first few years.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
As much as I dislike it, Come Go With Me is essential too, as a Top 20 hit.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 05:20:21 PM
As much as I dislike it, Come Go With Me is essential too, as a Top 20 hit.

Ah, slipped my mind. I always found that one inoffensive but also pretty uninteresting. But yeah, throw that one up there too and I still don't see anything that awful.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
Even tho it didn't chart nationally, I would always put It's A Beautiful Day on any singles-oriented BB comp as well. Love that tune. Hell, I'd put Lady Lynda on as well, as a Top 10 UK smash.
Beach Boys Medley can suck it, tho.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on August 09, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
Even tho it didn't chart nationally, I would always put It's A Beautiful Day on any singles-oriented BB comp as well. Love that tune. Hell, I'd put Lady Lynda on as well, as a Top 10 UK smash.
Beach Boys Medley can suck it, tho.

Personally I think they should replace Kokomo with Lady Lynda when they get to the U.K, I can remember hearing Kokomo on the radio once in the 4 years I've been a Beach Boys fan (it performed badly in the charts over here too), whereas Lady Lynda is a regular on 'Oldies' stations and I've heard it a couple of times on regular stations too.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
I like it that many "serious" rock fans still think of the band as a joke. It isn't as stifling talking about the band as it is to talk about The Beatles. It is inspiring to me that the band has got to where they are now in terms of perception, considering how tarnished the Beach Boys name was 25 years ago.

Honestly, usually where a person stands on The Beach Boys usually tells me about how serious of a "rock" fan they are. If they've never even heard of Pet Sounds, much less stuff like "Heroes And Villains" or "Surf's Up", then that tells me they are just your average hack. The kinda person that knows the entire Led Zeppelin canon but doesn't even know what Red Rose Speedway is.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

If we're talking a best of, though, then the decline isn't nearly as apparent as on the 93 box set.

For one disc, true. Over two discs ... dicier.

Looking outside my own fanboyism, these feel like essentials to a best of from after Holland until the present:

"Rock & Roll Music"
"It's OK"
"Honkin' Down The Highway" (really good song, an exclusive single mix exists to give incentive for bigger fans to buy, and Love You really needs some representation)
"Good Timin"
"Goin' On"
"Getcha Back"
"Kokomo"
"That's Why God Made The Radio"
"Isn't It Time?"

Remix any as you see fit (thus making some of the the songs with iffier sound quality more palatable and giving the bigger fans further incentive to buy), and I really don't see any horribly embarrassing inclusions there. Most of these aren't Pet Sounds great or anything, but I'd put a lot of them on par with some of their bigger hits from the first few years.

I agree that they don't look totally horrible by following a chronological approach. No worse than a band like The Rolling Stones. Things like "Good Timin'", "Getcha Back", and "Isn't It Time" aren't anything to be embarrassed of. And I don't think anybody buying a Beach Boys comp expected them to keep their 1960s level of creativity up for their entire career.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: I. Spaceman on August 09, 2012, 06:41:01 PM
I like it that many "serious" rock fans still think of the band as a joke. It isn't as stifling talking about the band as it is to talk about The Beatles. It is inspiring to me that the band has got to where they are now in terms of perception, considering how tarnished the Beach Boys name was 25 years ago.

Honestly, usually where a person stands on The Beach Boys usually tells me about how serious of a "rock" fan they are. If they've never even heard of Pet Sounds, much less stuff like "Heroes And Villains" or "Surf's Up", then that tells me they are just your average hack. The kinda person that knows the entire Led Zeppelin canon but doesn't even know what Red Rose Speedway is.

Agreed.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: metal flake paint on August 09, 2012, 06:48:32 PM
Even tho it didn't chart nationally, I would always put It's A Beautiful Day on any singles-oriented BB comp as well. Love that tune. Hell, I'd put Lady Lynda on as well, as a Top 10 UK smash.
Beach Boys Medley can suck it, tho.

Personally I think they should replace Kokomo with Lady Lynda when they get to the U.K, I can remember hearing Kokomo on the radio once in the 4 years I've been a Beach Boys fan (it performed badly in the charts over here too), whereas Lady Lynda is a regular on 'Oldies' stations and I've heard it a couple of times on regular stations too.

I don't think Al would be too keen on performing that (unless they played the Little Lady re-write).


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 09, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
Maybe somebody already commented on this, but did anybody else "Barbara Ann" is not on the one disc Greatest Hits. Kinda crazy. I know it's not written by the band, but whether or not we like it, it's one of their most popular songs.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on August 09, 2012, 07:45:04 PM
There are bad soundtrack contributions, bad solo projects, everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.

Haaa.

I like it that many "serious" rock fans still think of the band as a joke.

I get what you mean, i’ve felt that before. It is pretty neat in a counterintuitive way.

The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

That is a good point, i hadn’t considered that. But i also see RDZ’s point. The thing is, though, however you slice it, that is what happened to the quality of the band’s output. That's the reality, it's who they are. So what’s worse, the band’s decline becoming very apparent when the songs appear in chronological order, or having Kiss Me Baby sandwiched between the two TWGMTR singles, Getcha Back in between Wendy and TLGIOK, and other hot messes?



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 09, 2012, 10:15:14 PM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ix7bKFvX1qzd1yeo1_500.png)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: joshferrell on August 09, 2012, 10:32:00 PM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ix7bKFvX1qzd1yeo1_500.png)
lol..yes..I LOVE it,,,,


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 10, 2012, 12:40:25 AM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ix7bKFvX1qzd1yeo1_500.png)
lol..yes..I LOVE it,,,,

 :lol genius!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Billgoodman on August 10, 2012, 12:45:58 AM
If anybody is interested, I work for a organisation that orders cd's from the distribution company and the discs are priced like this in the Netherlands:

50 big ones double disc: 16, 50 euro
Greatest hits one disc: 11 euro
All the remasters, mono/stereo: 11 euro

This is all before taxes and keep in mind your retailer wants to make some profit too. So in the shops you could probably see those remasters for like 15-20 euro's.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on August 10, 2012, 01:27:00 AM
Even tho it didn't chart nationally, I would always put It's A Beautiful Day on any singles-oriented BB comp as well. Love that tune. Hell, I'd put Lady Lynda on as well, as a Top 10 UK smash.
Beach Boys Medley can suck it, tho.

Personally I think they should replace Kokomo with Lady Lynda when they get to the U.K, I can remember hearing Kokomo on the radio once in the 4 years I've been a Beach Boys fan (it performed badly in the charts over here too), whereas Lady Lynda is a regular on 'Oldies' stations and I've heard it a couple of times on regular stations too.

I don't think Al would be too keen on performing that (unless they played the Little Lady re-write).



Good point, well let him sing Brian's "My Mary-Ann" from the Paley sessions to level the balance ;)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 10, 2012, 01:27:40 AM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

Smart Girls coming up ;]


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jonathan Blum on August 10, 2012, 02:11:32 AM
Why I'm not bothered by the surfboards, by me --

The surfboards-and-woodies thing is a worldwide icon representing that particular image of California -- the one the Beach Boys brought to the world.  The one that's actually in their songs, in a way that Beatle boots aren't.

The Beatles don't just get mop-tops on their discs because they created a whole batch of visual icons representing them -- from With The Beatles silhouettes all the way to Abbey Road, green apples and Sergeant Pepper suits, and even the Red/Blue covers after they broke up.  (All of which are present and correct on Anthology.) 

The Beach Boys?  They didn't create a stack of definitive album covers; there's only one instantly-recognizable icon associated with them...  but lord, what an icon.  One image that evokes a whole way of life.  That's worth celebrating it.

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 10, 2012, 02:47:13 AM
What would the perfect image be that represented the band's 50-year output?  They gotta pick something…

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ix7bKFvX1qzd1yeo1_500.png)

It was the mooooonster mash  :ohyeah


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 10, 2012, 02:49:09 AM
If anybody is interested, I work for a organisation that orders cd's from the distribution company and the discs are priced like this in the Netherlands:

50 big ones double disc: 16, 50 euro
Greatest hits one disc: 11 euro
All the remasters, mono/stereo: 11 euro

This is all before taxes and keep in mind your retailer wants to make some profit too. So in the shops you could probably see those remasters for like 15-20 euro's.

All though the U.S. prices will be lower. I already saw blowitoutahere list the remasters for $13 a piece.
http://www.blowitoutahere.com/search?q=beach+boys&mod=AP


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Alan Smith on August 10, 2012, 04:51:54 AM
Even tho it didn't chart nationally, I would always put It's A Beautiful Day on any singles-oriented BB comp as well. Love that tune. Hell, I'd put Lady Lynda on as well, as a Top 10 UK smash.
Beach Boys Medley can suck it, tho.

Personally I think they should replace Kokomo with Lady Lynda when they get to the U.K, I can remember hearing Kokomo on the radio once in the 4 years I've been a Beach Boys fan (it performed badly in the charts over here too), whereas Lady Lynda is a regular on 'Oldies' stations and I've heard it a couple of times on regular stations too.

I don't think Al would be too keen on performing that (unless they played the Little Lady re-write).

Would Al be up for Lady Liberty?  :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Luke_Barshack on August 10, 2012, 06:39:36 AM
The problem with a chronological approach (which is what the 93 boxed set had ) for the BBs, is it makes the band's decline from the 70s through the 90s abundantly and painfully clear. In the case of the Beatles, you're dealing with far fewer albums over a much smaller time scale. The two bands just do not compare in chronological terms. The only way such an approach would work for the BBs would be if you included BW solo material, which would paint a portrait of continued creative striving, if not necessarily growth.

If we're talking a best of, though, then the decline isn't nearly as apparent as on the 93 box set.

For one disc, true. Over two discs ... dicier.

How a single disc, in chronological comp could work, in my opinion:

Surfin' Safari
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Be True to Your School
In My Room
Fun, Fun, Fun
I Get Around
Don't Worry Baby
When I Grow Up
The Warmth of the Sun
Help Me Ronda
California Girls
Barbara Ann
Sloop John B
Wouldn't it Be Nice
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
Heroes and Villains
Wild Honey
Darlin'
Friends
Do it Again
Add Some Music
This Whole World
Long Promised Road
Surf's Up
Marcella
Sail On Sailor
Good TImin'
Kokomo
That's Why God Made the Radio

I agree, two or three discs may make the decline more obvious.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 10, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
What about, you know, just a photograph of the band?

This!

For example, a picture of the band today, and on the reverse side, a pic from 50 years ago.

C'mon Capitol geniuses, make it happen!




The backcover for "The warmth of the sun" was fantastic !


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 10, 2012, 11:52:25 AM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 10, 2012, 11:56:12 AM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

Wrong.  ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jason on August 10, 2012, 12:01:38 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

Wrong.  ;D

You brute! You and that Wall of Secrecy! You and your robots! HARUMPH! *end Phil Cohen*


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 10, 2012, 12:03:51 PM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

Wrong.  ;D

Yeah, but here's the question - is it still being planned or suggested?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Aegir on August 10, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
"Maybe.  :) " -hypothetical AGD response


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 10, 2012, 12:10:41 PM
"Maybe.  :) " -hypothetical AGD response

 :lol

Yeah, but my approach is like Woodward and Bernstein in All The President's Men (or, I guess in real life): can't hurt to ask questions even if you're pretty sure you'll be stonewalled. I think that's the message of that movie. It's unclear because the denouement is so freakin' abrupt.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 10, 2012, 03:56:47 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

I don't know what's logical here anymore anyway. The remastered albums threw me for a loop, so everything else I surmised about the re-release planning seems off now.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Theydon Bois on August 10, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

I don't know what's logical here anymore anyway. The remastered albums threw me for a loop, so everything else I surmised about the re-release planning seems off now.

I don't know about anyone else's logic, but one conclusion is that:
 - the Greatest Hits is for the total newbies
 - 50 Big Ones is for slightly more adventurous beginners
 - the remasters will sell to more committed fans, plus newcomers who want to explore the album tracks
 - and then, the only constituency not yet covered is the ridiculous perspective-lacking megafan, and by gum I hope that the box set is for us.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 10, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
From the Ultimate Classic Rock Site

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beach-boys-announce-massive-reissue-campaign/

If this is the official press release, they are calling "50 Big Ones" the box set and no mention of a future box set.

****************

Beach Boys Announce Massive Reissue Campaign With 12 Studio Albums and Two Compilations
by: Dave Swanson Yesterday

The celebration of the Beach Boys‘ 50th anniversary rolls on! Capitol Records has announced it will be launching yet another massive re-issue campaign for the legendary Californian band.

The lead-off releases in this series are two new greatest hits packages. For the timid, there is ‘The Beach Boys Greatest Hits,’ a compact 20-track collection of the band’s biggest hits. For those who wish to dive in a little deeper, there is a deluxe, career-spanning 2CD box entitled ‘Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones.’ This collection features, as the title suggests, 50 Beach Boys favorites, including two songs from this year’s ‘That’s Why God Made The Radio.’

The box will be issued in a lift-top box package including an expanded booklet with new liner notes and seven postcards. The collection will also be available as digital download — no postcards with that one!

In addition to the hits packages, twelve of the band’s albums will also be re-issued. They have been digitally remastered by Mark Linett, who has been behind the board for many of the previous Beach Boys re-masters. The titles being re-issued are: ‘Surfin’ U.S.A.,’ ‘Surfer Girl,’ ‘Little Deuce Coupe,’ ‘Shut Down Volume 2,’ ‘All Summer Long,’ ‘Today!,’ ‘Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!),’ ‘Beach Boys Party!,’ ‘Pet Sounds,’ ‘Smiley Smile,’ ‘Sunflower’ and ‘Surf’s Up.’

Most of these titles will feature both mono and stereo mixes, with the exception of ‘Surf’s Up’ and ‘Sunflower,’ as they were never mixed in mono. No word on why ‘Surfin Safari,’ ‘Christmas Album,’ ‘Wild Honey,’ ‘Friends’ or ’20/20′ are not part of this re-issue series.  Also in the works is a career-spanning 50th Anniversary box set for release later this year.

On Sept. 18th, The Grammy Museum in Los Angeles will launch a special Beach Boys 50th Anniversary exhibit. Opening night will kick off with ‘An Evening With The Beach Boys,’ which will be a public event featuring a Q&A and acoustic performance by Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 10, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

I don't know what's logical here anymore anyway. The remastered albums threw me for a loop, so everything else I surmised about the re-release planning seems off now.

I don't know about anyone else's logic, but one conclusion is that:
 - the Greatest Hits is for the total newbies
 - 50 Big Ones is for slightly more adventurous beginners
 - the remasters will sell to more committed fans, plus newcomers who want to explore the album tracks
 - and then, the only constituency not yet covered is the ridiculous perspective-lacking megafan, and by gum I hope that the box set is for us.


fully agree there!

screw the idea of more Califorina Girls tracks in a  new boxset, fill it with some Adult/Child, Friends/wildhoney outtakes, WIBNTLA and remixed Love You and LA Light tracks! even add a clearer version of  Oh Lord into the pile. Do not fk with this board Capitol!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Theydon Bois on August 10, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
no mention of a future box set.

Apart from the bit where it says:

Also in the works is a career-spanning 50th Anniversary box set for release later this year.

This appears mostly just to be a regurgitation of the "official" press release.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 10, 2012, 04:33:03 PM
no mention of a future box set.

Apart from the bit where it says:

Also in the works is a career-spanning 50th Anniversary box set for release later this year.

This appears mostly just to be a regurgitation of the "official" press release.

Ha, ha - just seeing if you all were paying attention. Actually, my Laker fan head is spinning about the Dwight Howard trade.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on August 10, 2012, 05:05:20 PM
This one seems to have more info than the others....


Quote


****************

Beach Boys Announce Massive Reissue Campaign With 12 Studio Albums and Two Compilations and Absolutely Nothing More In The Future...EVER

by: Rip Testes

The celebration of the Beach Boys‘ 50th anniversary rolls on! Capitol Records has announced it will be launching yet another massive re-issue campaign for the legendary Californian band. The impetus for this campaign came after listening to wire-tapped phone conversations of deranged uber-fan Phil Cohen.

The lead-off releases in this series are two new greatest hits packages. For the cheap, there is ‘The Beach Boys Greatest Hits,’ a compact 20-track collection of the band’s biggest hits. For those who wish to dive in a little deeper and buy this sh*t for the millionth time, there is a deluxe, career-spanning 2CD box entitled ‘Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones.’ This collection features, as the title suggests, 50 Beach Boys favorites, including two songs from this year’s ‘That’s Why God Made The Radio.’

The box will be issued in a lift-top box package including an expanded booklet with new liner notes and seven postcards. The collection will also be available as digital download — no postcards with that one (although you could probably just pdf the mothertucker if you wanted to, asswipe)!.

In addition to the hits packages, twelve of the band’s albums will also be re-issued. They have been digitally remastered by Mark Linett, who has been behind the board for many of the previous Beach Boys re-masters. The titles being re-issued are: ‘Surfin’ U.S.A.,’ ‘Surfer Girl,’ ‘Little Deuce Coupe,’ ‘Shut Down Volume 2,’ ‘All Summer Long,’ ‘Today!,’ ‘Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) (even though that album is merely a step backwards into a pool of retarded sexuality and bad poetry about carnivals and yearbook photos),’ ‘Beach Boys Party!,’ ‘Pet Sounds,’ ‘Smiley Smile,’ ‘Sunflower’ and ‘Surf’s Up.’

Most of these titles will feature both mono and stereo mixes, with the exception of ‘Surf’s Up’ and ‘Sunflower,’ as they were never mixed in mono.  ‘Surfin Safari,’ ‘Christmas Album,’ ‘Wild Honey,’ ‘Friends’ or ’20/20′ are not part of this re-issue series and have been deemed sub-par by Capitol records. The master tapes have been destroyed so future editions of these albums can never be released.  Also not in the works is a career-spanning 50th Anniversary box set which will never ever ever be released.

On Sept. 18th, The Grammy Museum in that open sewer Los Angeles will launch a special Beach Boys 50th Anniversary exhibit. Opening night will kick off with ‘An Evening With The Beach Boys,’ which will be a public event featuring a Q&A and acoustic performance by Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks.



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 10, 2012, 05:28:59 PM
"On Sept. 18th, The Grammy Museum in Los Angeles will launch a special Beach Boys 50th Anniversary exhibit. Opening night will kick off with ‘An Evening With The Beach Boys,’ which will be a public event featuring a Q&A and acoustic performance by Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks."

Spittake!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bicyclerider on August 10, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
I'm starting to believe, based on the inscrutable Andrew Doe's cryptic pronouncements, and the logic of it - why issue a box set repeating the hits and deep cuts already on the new Greatest Hits and 50 2CD box - that the upcoming career spanning box set will be entirely or almost entirely unreleased songs, mixes, instrumental takes and LIVE concert tracks, even complete concerts.  I do think that virtually all of the bonus tracks on the 2 fears will make their appearance on this box set.  While this may limit the box's appeal to the non rabid fan, those casual fans will be buying one or both of the other collections before buying a box set anyway.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 10, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

 :brow


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dunderhead on August 10, 2012, 08:31:09 PM
Never let anyone tell you that AGD isn't really a softie deep down.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: DonnyL on August 10, 2012, 09:48:13 PM
It really seems like the most logical thing is that the box will be all rarities & unreleased tracks -- with plenty of live and alternate versions of the big hits to bring in semi-casual fans. Maybe called something with 'archives' or 'vaults' in the title. after all, the Pet Sounds Sessions is not exactly for casual fans and it did well.

I would also expect the official announcement very soon. As well as the announcement of the 2nd run of remasters.

!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 10, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
It really seems like the most logical thing is that the box will be all rarities & unreleased tracks -- with plenty of live and alternate versions of the big hits to bring in semi-casual fans. Maybe called something with 'archives' or 'vaults' in the title. after all, the Pet Sounds Sessions is not exactly for casual fans and it did well.

I would also expect the official announcement very soon. As well as the announcement of the 2nd run of remasters.

!

I don't know about very soon. This announcement is about six weeks before the release of the remastered albums. Assuming the box comes out in November (around the time of TSS) for holiday purchasing, that could mean we won't hear real details about it in late September / early October.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 10, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
posted this response in the wrong thread last night due to the lateness of the hour and the influence of a terrific Chinese all you can eat buffet. Here's a fresh attempt:

Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

Wrong.  ;D

Yeah, but here's the question - is it still being planned or suggested?

Didn't there used to be a thread for box set content speculation?

Anyways my bet's on the set including remastered Surfin' Safari album, the Carnegie live audio and video material, Wild Honey and Friends stereo albums, 20/20 remaster, a vast quantity of previously unreleased and/or remastered Sunflower and Surf's Up era material (possibly as simulated unreleased album of the era), some SMiLE session leftovers, all Mike's unreleased solo albums and a 4CD presentation of the Teeter Totter Love sessions.

Y'know, the new Japanese Stereo Smiley is so good that this afternoon I caught myself humming the stereo version of IJWMFTT instead of the mono, for the first time.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 11, 2012, 02:45:29 AM
I guarantee you we'll see a vocal only of 'That's Why God Made the Radio' or 'Isn't it Time' on the box.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Moon Dawg on August 11, 2012, 06:06:24 AM
 Apologies if this point has already been covered: Will the remastered albums (like SURF'S UP) contain bonus tracks (such as "Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again?) ?

 Thx


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: drbeachboy on August 11, 2012, 06:51:08 AM
Apologies if this point has already been covered: Will the remastered albums (like SURF'S UP) contain bonus tracks (such as "Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again?) ?

 Thx
Nope, just the album proper on all.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tpesky on August 11, 2012, 08:35:25 AM
The 2 CD is a nice package to get someone interested in the BB for sure. The box set to follow is very VERY intriguing. Still hope the Doin It Again DVD is not the only release we see from this tour.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 11, 2012, 09:10:02 AM
I guarantee you we'll see a vocal only of 'That's Why God Made the Radio' or 'Isn't it Time' on the box.

Can't really see the latter, and the former would kind of bring the whole "Jeff shadows everyone bcuz he's teh best!!!11" thing and all the processing to light more than it already is unless said shadowing parts are lowered in the mix and the effects are let up on a bit.

Maybe, though.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: the professor on August 11, 2012, 09:14:17 AM
In all the mix here I have lost the core: are there in fact 3 releases coming, as per the press release?:

1. greatest hits (20 songs)
2.2-cd career spanning album with 2 new versions of TWG and IIT
3. a mega box set of arcana , rarities and ??? (I could not find the announcement for that)

plus this, the several old albums are re-mastered and re-released.

plus this we have the Front row center DVD on 8/25.

Plus, the promise of a live album and and live DVD (concert film); these two have not been formally announced at all, right?



casual talk of a new album with all, Bruce and David contributing songs and maybe more of the suite. . . .

I am verging into the darkness here, but I want a handle on what's happening.

to paraphrase Erasmus, when I have money, I'll spend it on BB albums, and if there is any left I'll buy food.

thanks to all for sharing the information


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 11, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
I guarantee you we'll see a vocal only of 'That's Why God Made the Radio' or 'Isn't it Time' on the box.

Can't really see the latter, and the former would kind of bring the whole "Jeff shadows everyone bcuz he's teh best!!!11" thing and all the processing to light more than it already is unless said shadowing parts are lowered in the mix and the effects are let up on a bit.

Maybe, though.

I don't know, I just see them doing something like that. We'll see :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 11, 2012, 09:31:32 AM

to paraphrase Erasmus, when I have money, I'll spend it on BB albums, and if there is any left I'll buy food.


Not a full time professor, then?  :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Awesoman on August 11, 2012, 09:57:56 AM

to paraphrase Erasmus, when I have money, I'll spend it on BB albums, and if there is any left I'll buy food.


Not a full time professor, then?  :)

...zing!!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mikie on August 11, 2012, 11:14:10 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 11, 2012, 11:32:38 AM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

Okay then.  A box set would probably be a collection of vocal only and backing tracks from Summer in Paradise and the MIU Album plus the unreleased Country Love album in its entirety.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 11, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
"wrinkles/oh those girls medley" (duophonic mix ft.adrien baker)    ;(


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 12, 2012, 03:16:46 AM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

Wrong.  ;D

Yeah, but here's the question - is it still being planned or suggested?

It's certainly being suggested.

Here.  :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 12, 2012, 03:18:27 AM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

I don't know what's logical here anymore anyway. The remastered albums threw me for a loop, so everything else I surmised about the re-release planning seems off now.

Only threw folk for a loop because it wasn't explicitly pre-announced. Check the original announcement - it mentions archival releases, or some such.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 12, 2012, 04:33:52 AM
I thought this would fit into this thread.

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Recording additional vocals for the single release of "Isn't It Time"...and deep in thought too in Oslo, Norway!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mike's Beard on August 12, 2012, 09:42:20 AM

Facebook:

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Al tries to remember if such a song called "Wouldn't it be nice to live again" exists.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 12, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
How the hell do you lay down vocals in a hotel room


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Justin on August 12, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
People record entire albums in their bedrooms with exceptional results.  With the BB having access to better software and recording equipment than "normal folk", I'm sure they can cut a few vocals in a hotel conference room with complete ease!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 12, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
Mike cut his vocal for "Don't fight the sea" in a hotel room


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 12, 2012, 12:12:30 PM
The majority of Smiley Smile was recorded in a living room - and that was nearly 50 years ago. All's you need nowadays to get a good quality vocal would be a laptop, a decent pre-amp, and a microphone with maybe a stand and a pop filter for it.

Really hope they're not redoing all the vocals or all the track. The original is so damn good that I think they should be a bit careful as to how much they tinker with it.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Banana on August 12, 2012, 03:20:48 PM
"wrinkles/oh those girls medley" (duophonic mix ft.adrien baker)    ;(

Post of the day! ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 12, 2012, 03:48:51 PM
Really hope they're not redoing all the vocals or all the track. The original is so damn good that I think they should be a bit careful as to how much they tinker with it.

I don't know. I think that Brian's vocal could definitely be re-done. To me, the song is a major stand-out on the album, but Brian's initial verse with all it's gruffness kinda stops me from saying, "listen to this new Beach Boys song!" to one of my friends. So a sweeter lead vocal from Brian would definitely help its commercial prospects, and losing Jeff's prominent part in the middle eight would be a wonderful idea too.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 12, 2012, 03:59:23 PM
Really hope they're not redoing all the vocals or all the track. The original is so damn good that I think they should be a bit careful as to how much they tinker with it.

I don't know. I think that Brian's vocal could definitely be re-done. To me, the song is a major stand-out on the album, but Brian's initial verse with all it's gruffness kinda stops me from saying, "listen to this new Beach Boys song!" to one of my friends. So a sweeter lead vocal from Brian would definitely help its commercial prospects, and losing Jeff's prominent part in the middle eight would be a wonderful idea too.

True, actually. When I said that, I was thinking more of Al and Bruce in the chorus, which sounds great and hopefully, if it's redone, comes off similar to the album version.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on August 12, 2012, 04:44:35 PM
The majority of Smiley Smile was recorded in a living room - and that was nearly 50 years ago. All's you need nowadays to get a good quality vocal would be a laptop, a decent pre-amp, and a microphone with maybe a stand and a pop filter for it.


Yeah, but the living room was acoustically treated somewhat. 

People record entire albums in their bedrooms with exceptional results.  With the BB having access to better software and recording equipment than "normal folk", I'm sure they can cut a few vocals in a hotel conference room with complete ease!

I have yet to hear something recorded in a bedroom that doesn't sound like it was recorded in a bedroom.  Unless they turned it into an anechoic chamber, the terrible small, square room reflections give it away.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ArtVandalay on August 12, 2012, 05:11:54 PM
Really hope they're not redoing all the vocals or all the track. The original is so damn good that I think they should be a bit careful as to how much they tinker with it.

I don't know. I think that Brian's vocal could definitely be re-done. To me, the song is a major stand-out on the album, but Brian's initial verse with all it's gruffness kinda stops me from saying, "listen to this new Beach Boys song!" to one of my friends. So a sweeter lead vocal from Brian would definitely help its commercial prospects, and losing Jeff's prominent part in the middle eight would be a wonderful idea too.

Agreed re: Brian's intro. He sounds as if he just had oral surgery and he's still numb from the Novocaine. The only real weak part of the track IMO.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 12, 2012, 05:48:58 PM
The majority of Smiley Smile was recorded in a living room - and that was nearly 50 years ago. All's you need nowadays to get a good quality vocal would be a laptop, a decent pre-amp, and a microphone with maybe a stand and a pop filter for it.


Yeah, but the living room was acoustically treated somewhat. 

People record entire albums in their bedrooms with exceptional results.  With the BB having access to better software and recording equipment than "normal folk", I'm sure they can cut a few vocals in a hotel conference room with complete ease!

I have yet to hear something recorded in a bedroom that doesn't sound like it was recorded in a bedroom.  Unless they turned it into an anechoic chamber, the terrible small, square room reflections give it away.

Seriously?? Many of the best indie artists these days don't have the money to go out Ocean Way, but still make some super interesting stuff. For instance, I'm pretty sure Panda Bear and Sufjan Stevens do a bunch of their stuff at home on their computers. Same with of Montreal's Kevin Barnes for most of his stuff. So I'm not sure what you're saying there.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on August 12, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
The majority of Smiley Smile was recorded in a living room - and that was nearly 50 years ago. All's you need nowadays to get a good quality vocal would be a laptop, a decent pre-amp, and a microphone with maybe a stand and a pop filter for it.


Yeah, but the living room was acoustically treated somewhat. 

People record entire albums in their bedrooms with exceptional results.  With the BB having access to better software and recording equipment than "normal folk", I'm sure they can cut a few vocals in a hotel conference room with complete ease!

I have yet to hear something recorded in a bedroom that doesn't sound like it was recorded in a bedroom.  Unless they turned it into an anechoic chamber, the terrible small, square room reflections give it away.

Seriously?? Many of the best indie artists these days don't have the money to go out Ocean Way, but still make some super interesting stuff. For instance, I'm pretty sure Panda Bear and Sufjan Stevens do a bunch of their stuff at home on their computers. Same with of Montreal's Kevin Barnes for most of his stuff. So I'm not sure what you're saying there.

I'm saying it sounds like it was recorded in a bedroom.  Panda Bear and Sufjan have always turned me off, for musical reasons, anyway.  Nevertheless, I suspect they have heavily acoustically treated these home rooms.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: the professor on August 12, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
Really hope they're not redoing all the vocals or all the track. The original is so damn good that I think they should be a bit careful as to how much they tinker with it.

I don't know. I think that Brian's vocal could definitely be re-done. To me, the song is a major stand-out on the album, but Brian's initial verse with all it's gruffness kinda stops me from saying, "listen to this new Beach Boys song!" to one of my friends. So a sweeter lead vocal from Brian would definitely help its commercial prospects, and losing Jeff's prominent part in the middle eight would be a wonderful idea too.

Heavens yes, please ask jeff to step aside. All his solos are sore thumbs.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on August 12, 2012, 11:58:47 PM
I hope a box set would mirror the Beatles box set by having all the core studio albums plus a Past Masters type collection featuring non-album singles, B-sides, and whatnot.  Or perhaps it would have to be two box sets because of the large amount of material.

Or perhaps it's not going to be that format at all. Can we have some logical thinking here, please ?

I don't know what's logical here anymore anyway. The remastered albums threw me for a loop, so everything else I surmised about the re-release planning seems off now.

Only threw folk for a loop because it wasn't explicitly pre-announced. Check the original announcement - it mentions archival releases, or some such.

The phrasing was: "The Beach Boys and Capitol/EMI have also teamed up for a 50th Anniversary campaign spotlighting the band's entire catalog, with several new commemorative releases planned for 2012, including a new hits collection and a career-spanning box set."

I never thought of commemorative as meaning a catalog revamp. But looking at it now, the "spotlighting the bands entire catalog" bit should have been a tip off.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 13, 2012, 01:12:06 AM
The majority of Smiley Smile was recorded in a living room - and that was nearly 50 years ago. All's you need nowadays to get a good quality vocal would be a laptop, a decent pre-amp, and a microphone with maybe a stand and a pop filter for it.


Yeah, but the living room was acoustically treated somewhat. 

People record entire albums in their bedrooms with exceptional results.  With the BB having access to better software and recording equipment than "normal folk", I'm sure they can cut a few vocals in a hotel conference room with complete ease!

I have yet to hear something recorded in a bedroom that doesn't sound like it was recorded in a bedroom.  Unless they turned it into an anechoic chamber, the terrible small, square room reflections give it away.

Seriously?? Many of the best indie artists these days don't have the money to go out Ocean Way, but still make some super interesting stuff. For instance, I'm pretty sure Panda Bear and Sufjan Stevens do a bunch of their stuff at home on their computers. Same with of Montreal's Kevin Barnes for most of his stuff. So I'm not sure what you're saying there.

Yeah, you're right. Most of KB's stuff is done at home. And I agree, neither SPITA or for instance Hissing Fauna sound like they were recorded at home. I think Wilco recorded a few of their albums in the attic too. Those people know what they're doing though, and a lot of people don't - in which recording environment becomes quite evident.

Something completely different: ArtVandeley: Love your nickname :D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Youre Under Arrest on August 13, 2012, 03:46:32 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: over and over on August 13, 2012, 06:20:02 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

I could be going on the box set.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: hypehat on August 13, 2012, 07:22:23 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

We literally have no idea what this boxset entails. Everything you've read here is us speculating based on the mere fact that there is a boxset coming out. Nothing more. Nothing less. Calm yourself.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 13, 2012, 07:24:29 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

Not true. A very good version of the song exists.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 13, 2012, 07:45:28 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

I could be going on the box set.

You could ?  :-D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 13, 2012, 07:49:16 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

You must be a Cohenite. Wish I could say "pleased to meet you".  :p


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: over and over on August 13, 2012, 08:08:19 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.
 

Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

I could be going on the box set.

You could ?  :-D

 :-D
I'm at work and was typing too fast.
But it could be going on the box set I hope.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 13, 2012, 08:12:46 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: hypehat on August 13, 2012, 08:28:44 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...

Why don't you just wait until they come out domestically at an actually reasonable price?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Heartical Don on August 13, 2012, 08:44:15 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...

Why don't you just wait until they come out domestically at an actually reasonable price?

I for one will. They are listed for Sept 24, and go at € 16.99 apiece at my local retailer. Since I will purchase 4 of the series, it'll be within the realm of normality.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 13, 2012, 08:49:18 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...

Why don't you just wait until they come out domestically at an actually reasonable price?

That's what I'm talking about, I meant to say Pre- Order


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: TV Forces on August 13, 2012, 09:48:31 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...

Are you saying you ordered "Today!" because you're not in a hurry to get the only one you need (SD&SN)?

Why not order the one you need first and be in no hurry on the others?

Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

Yeah, because an unreleased song isn't on a greatest hits compilation.  Makes sense.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: tansen on August 13, 2012, 09:55:11 AM
I'd order the remasters now, they're at there cheapest yet, I ordered Today because I have no rush to get SD&SN which is the only stereo mix I need...

Why don't you just wait until they come out domestically at an actually reasonable price?

I for one will. They are listed for Sept 24, and go at € 16.99 apiece at my local retailer. Since I will purchase 4 of the series, it'll be within the realm of normality.


Why on earth would you pay a whopping € 16.99/CD when you can get them for around 11-12 bucks a piece if you order them online? ImportCDs.com has them for $12.29 at the moment but that price will go further down on release day.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 14, 2012, 02:35:09 AM
Also, can't see why people would want a box set full of the albums, rather than a box set full of previously unreleased stuff. I would TOTALLY take the previously unreleased stuff. This is probably one of our last chances to hear some of these holy grails people!

I don't think a box made up of only unreleased stuff has ever been planned or suggested.

A release of this kind would be groundbreaking, in keeping with a relatively recent band tradition that began with first the original 2-fers + bonus tracks, then the PS boxset, continued with the GV set (many rarities), and TSS, and taking it a step further. There is every indication that wise heads are prevailing at Capitol these days, and our hopes may be rewarded with an unprecedented (to my knowledge anyway, which is admittedly incomplete) all-rarities box. Hopefully the potential hard-core fan constituency will be adjudged to be adequate, I pray that any optimism doesn't prove to be unwarranted. If anyone is listening, an alternate "isn't it Time" would provide not one solitary iota of incentive for me to purchase any new product, whatsoever. Do the right thing, people! :drumroll

Wrong.  ;D

Yeah, but here's the question - is it still being planned or suggested?

It's certainly being suggested.

Here.  :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Youre Under Arrest on August 14, 2012, 03:58:10 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

We literally have no idea what this boxset entails. Everything you've read here is us speculating based on the mere fact that there is a boxset coming out. Nothing more. Nothing less. Calm yourself.

I'm sorry, I'm just so damn anxious to hear it. This board has been building it up so much I jumped the gun.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on August 14, 2012, 05:59:37 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

Yeah cause that's totally the only boxset/compilation there ever was/will be of The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Jim V. on August 14, 2012, 11:55:38 AM
Well, that's it. Our last definite chance of getting to hear WIBNTLA is gone. Ya blew it, Capitol.


Wouldn't It Be Nice To Blurst Again

Yeah cause that's totally the only boxset/compilation there ever was/will be of The Beach Boys.

No, but the shelves haven't really been getting stocked with Beach Boys archival product prior to the 50th anniversary, so most of us assume that once the celebration is "over", our chances of hearing previously unreleased material won't be so great.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 14, 2012, 12:46:01 PM
Better start planning to make it 'til the 100th anniversary. Cryo-chambers?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on August 15, 2012, 02:23:27 AM
More artwork:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xrcWoFnRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I like this: look at the CDs – you can see the grooves from 'ere!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: shelter on August 15, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
No, but the shelves haven't really been getting stocked with Beach Boys archival product prior to the 50th anniversary, so most of us assume that once the celebration is "over", our chances of hearing previously unreleased material won't be so great.

Rarities LP
Ultimate Christmas CD
Endless Harmony CD
Hawthorne, CA 2CD
2fer bonus tracks
Good Vibrations box set
Pet Sounds Sessions box set
Smile Sessions box set

That's quite a lot of archival material, really.

Which of course doesn't mean that I don't want a whole lot more. :)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 15, 2012, 07:53:55 AM
I thought this would fit into this thread.

Facebook:

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Recording additional vocals for the single release of "Isn't It Time"...and deep in thought too in Oslo, Norway!


Wow! The Beach Boys actually recorded in my tiny overwealthy arctic country? That is beyond epic!  :o That's right, suck on it SWEDISH FROG :p


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: donald on August 15, 2012, 09:38:17 AM
How much different is the single release of IIT?  I may have heard it once on the radio but was so excited to hear the airplay I didn't really notice.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: LostArt on August 15, 2012, 09:46:09 AM
How much different is the single release of IIT?  I may have heard it once on the radio but was so excited to hear the airplay I didn't really notice.

I don't think we've heard the single version yet, as they were just recording some vox overdubs the other day while on the road.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 15, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
More artwork:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xrcWoFnRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I like this: look at the CDs – you can see the grooves from 'ere!

wow, I love it.

Yet another must have for the collection

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Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: pixletwin on August 15, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
I'm a sucker for any boxset with vinyl. Can't wait to get it.

Edit: Silly me. Those are the CDs just made to look like vinyl.  :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 15, 2012, 12:47:25 PM
If the Super Duper SMiLE Sessions Box set came with an autographed surf board, what are the chances 50 Big Ones will comes with an autographed tab of acid?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Rocker on August 15, 2012, 12:58:12 PM
I'm a sucker for any boxset with vinyl. Can't wait to get it.

Edit: Silly me. Those are the CDs just made to look like vinyl.  :lol


You probably would have found out sooner or later.... ;D


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on August 15, 2012, 01:06:57 PM
If the Super Duper SMiLE Sessions Box set came with an autographed surf board, what are the chances 50 Big Ones will comes with an autographed tab of acid?

 :lol


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 15, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
If the Super Duper SMiLE Sessions Box set came with an autographed surf board, what are the chances 50 Big Ones will comes with an autographed tab of acid?

ye what was all that about? Smile and Surf? as in Surf's Up? If not I cannot make the connection, because none exist musically. ::)


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Micha on August 16, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
If the Super Duper SMiLE Sessions Box set came with an autographed surf board, what are the chances 50 Big Ones will comes with an autographed tab of acid?

ye what was all that about? Smile and Surf? as in Surf's Up? If not I cannot make the connection, because none exist musically. ::)

There is a 1967 official clip for H&V showing nothing but surfers surfing. That seems stupid to me. The SMiLE surfboard seems deliberately ironic to me.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Bean Bag on August 16, 2012, 07:42:04 AM
More artwork:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xrcWoFnRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I like this: look at the CDs – you can see the grooves from 'ere!

Sweet!  Ppppptt!!! to all you artwork haters!   ;D  I dig that cover!!!

I'll get the two-disc set...probably no need for the single disc, right?  Anyway...I love a good BB comp.  I listen to Warmth of The Sun quite a bit.  One of the best, most intelligent and wonderfully programmed BB comps ever.  I look forward to this one.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ivy on August 17, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
Any details on the September 18th Grammy Museum show? After seeing how the Cal Saga GM show was, I'd love to make this one.

I just checked the Grammy Museum website and there are program listings for Sept 17th and 19th but not the 18th. http://www.grammymuseum.org/interior.php?section=programs&page=publicprograms


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ontor pertawst on August 17, 2012, 10:43:20 AM
I've called them and the guy in the box office isn't sure when they go on sale yet.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ivy on August 17, 2012, 10:52:36 AM
I've called them and the guy in the box office isn't sure when they go on sale yet.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ontor pertawst on August 17, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Yeah, I definitely have to go to this. And ask Brian, "don't you think it's time for that rock n' roll album now?"


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 17, 2012, 11:06:35 AM
Any details on the September 18th Grammy Museum show? After seeing how the Cal Saga GM show was, I'd love to make this one.

I just checked the Grammy Museum website and there are program listings for Sept 17th and 19th but not the 18th. http://www.grammymuseum.org/interior.php?section=programs&page=publicprograms

Yeah, I check online everyday. I wonder if it sold out with advance sales to Grammy Museum members, I remember them mentioning that that happens at the CalSaga gig.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ivy on August 17, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Any details on the September 18th Grammy Museum show? After seeing how the Cal Saga GM show was, I'd love to make this one.

I just checked the Grammy Museum website and there are program listings for Sept 17th and 19th but not the 18th. http://www.grammymuseum.org/interior.php?section=programs&page=publicprograms

Yeah, I check online everyday. I wonder if it sold out with advance sales to Grammy Museum members, I remember them mentioning that that happens at the CalSaga gig.

Ugggggggghhhh noooooo. Capacity is only 200 so it's very possible that between special guests of the band and museum members they could have reached capacity.

Might have to move on to some black market shiz.

ETA: I just called and they said that it hasn't even gone on sale to members yet.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: doinnothin on August 17, 2012, 03:16:46 PM
And now the question of whether its worth it to buy a $50 membership to have a better chance at buying a ticket ...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ivy on August 17, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
And now the question of whether its worth it to buy a $50 membership to have a better chance at buying a ticket ...

HAHA! I was just thinking of this: "Well, most of the other tickets for this series are around $20. $20 + $50 membership is only $70. And if the up front ticket price of the show was $70, I would still buy it so......"


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 17, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
wat. How did the subject change to this?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 17, 2012, 10:03:44 PM
Very carefully.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ivy on August 17, 2012, 10:32:50 PM
wat. How did the subject change to this?

The only mention of this show on this site is in the OP of this thread.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 17, 2012, 11:46:04 PM
wat. How did the subject change to this?

The only mention of this show on this site is in the OP of this thread.

Ah, gotcha.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: TV Forces on August 27, 2012, 07:38:09 AM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: ESQ Editor on September 09, 2012, 10:12:51 AM
http://www.examiner.com/review/new-beach-boys-single-loses-its-swagger


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 09, 2012, 01:16:52 PM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.

I think the new one IS the same one that is on the second (or third) edition of Endless Harmony.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: STE on September 10, 2012, 01:07:20 PM


New Sizzle Reel for the Greatest Hits cds:  http://youtu.be/G1aa_k1dcEg (http://youtu.be/G1aa_k1dcEg)

Nice to see Carl & Dennis too!



Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Mark Dillon on September 10, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.

I think the new one IS the same one that is on the second (or third) edition of Endless Harmony.
But the first edition one is the best.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: drbeachboy on September 10, 2012, 07:20:42 PM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.

I think the new one IS the same one that is on the second (or third) edition of Endless Harmony.
But the first edition one is the best.
It is the best, but mixed to sound like the 45 mono mix, whereas Mark's stereo mix sounds more like the mono album mix. The horns and background vocals are what set the mixes apart.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: monicker on September 10, 2012, 07:24:27 PM
So there's a California Girls 45 mono mix and then the SDSN album mix is different?

Also, the different editions of Endless Harmony use different mixes of CG? I didn't know this. Do any of the other songs use different mixes on the newer editions? Gosh, being a BB fan can be hell.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: drbeachboy on September 10, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
So there's a California Girls 45 mono mix and then the SDSN album mix is different?

Also, the different editions of Endless Harmony use different mixes of CG? I didn't know this. Do any of the other songs use different mixes on the newer editions? Gosh, being a BB fan can be hell.
The single mix is on the 1999 GH CD. The horns sound more harsh and along with the background vocals are more prominent in the mix. Sandoval's stereo mix on EH 1 sounds more like the single mono mix. Both have the longer fade, as well.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wirestone on September 11, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.

I think the new one IS the same one that is on the second (or third) edition of Endless Harmony.
But the first edition one is the best.

I believe the first edition one is rather woefully out of sync, no?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: drbeachboy on September 12, 2012, 04:23:19 AM
It's too bad the new greatest hits set seems to be using the new stereo remasters.

The stereo mix of "California Girls" on "Endless Harmony" kills the new one.

I think the new one IS the same one that is on the second (or third) edition of Endless Harmony.
But the first edition one is the best.

I believe the first edition one is rather woefully out of sync, no?
That is the first Linett mix, not Sandoval's on the very first issue of EH (Orange cover).


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: metal flake paint on September 12, 2012, 04:46:13 AM
So there's a California Girls 45 mono mix and then the SDSN album mix is different?

Also, the different editions of Endless Harmony use different mixes of CG? I didn't know this. Do any of the other songs use different mixes on the newer editions? Gosh, being a BB fan can be hell.

Sonic differences between Linett's version over Sandoval's version include:

Dennis Wilson's voice-over was corrected,

Punchier mix of the hits medley,

Acappela mix of Surfer Girl,

Kiss Me Baby California Girls, Darlin' (live) and Do It Again (early version) remixes,

Re-equalized Heroes and Villains demo,

plus a hidden bonus track at the end of Endless Harmony.


Apparently EH was issued four times:

The original version, the original version (with Dennis's corrected promo), the second version & the second version including Mark Linett's remix credits previously omitted.




Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: The Shift on September 12, 2012, 05:50:23 AM
Wasn't the promo CD different again?


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: 18thofMay on September 20, 2012, 09:12:17 PM
When is this being released??


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: 18thofMay on September 20, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
Anyway I just bought it!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 21, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
So there's a California Girls 45 mono mix and then the SDSN album mix is different?

Also, the different editions of Endless Harmony use different mixes of CG? I didn't know this. Do any of the other songs use different mixes on the newer editions? Gosh, being a BB fan can be hell.

Sonic differences between Linett's version over Sandoval's version include:

Dennis Wilson's voice-over was corrected,

Punchier mix of the hits medley,

Acappela mix of Surfer Girl,

Kiss Me Baby California Girls, Darlin' (live) and Do It Again (early version) remixes,

Re-equalized Heroes and Villains demo,

plus a hidden bonus track at the end of Endless Harmony.


Apparently EH was issued four times:

The original version, the original version (with Dennis's corrected promo), the second version & the second version including Mark Linett's remix credits previously omitted.




Son of a bitch! I can't believe how frustrating it is to collect every bit of Beach Boys audio that's out there.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Cabinessenceking on October 15, 2012, 12:22:07 PM
There is one question that I must ask this board considering the tracklist on 50 Big Ones:

Why is H&V, IJWMFTT and Surf's Up randomly placed away from the other Pet Sounds tracks GOK,SJB and WIBN???

Obviously they want to portray those 3 PS tracks in a context of uniformity, this can certainly be applied to the others. Imagine if they would just get it right and put Surf's Up in between the PS tracks where it belongs or next to GV anf H&V.... I really think this is what messes stuff up. I know very well that this GH is not cronological, but when they ALWAYS put those 3 PS tracks together, they can certainly do so with the Smile tracks. SU next to Friends and Sail On Sailor makes no sense.





Neither does placing Kokomo at the beginning of the second disc....
Actually nvm and f*** the people who make this sh*t...


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Wrightfan on October 18, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
I can't get over how great Today! sounds in stereo.

In the Back of my mind...WOW!


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: MBE on October 20, 2012, 07:13:14 AM
I like a strict chronology on a hits package. Mike doesn't like that, and I get his point, but as someone who thinks the songs tell a better story when laid out by date, I happen to not agree


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 20, 2012, 10:32:23 AM
I like a strict chronology on a hits package. Mike doesn't like that, and I get his point, but as someone who thinks the songs tell a better story when laid out by date, I happen to not agree

The Fifty Big Ones tracklist is a total mess. Chronological is the best approach to these things nine times out of ten, especially when working with fifty years of material with such drastic variation in sounds and styles over time.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: MBE on October 20, 2012, 11:48:26 AM
Yeah that and the backwards printed photos were a letdown for me. I like the old Made In The U.S.A. double album a lot because of the mono mixes and it is basically in order. It isn't the end all of hits packages, but it made more sense than these random ones. I think there still needs to be an all mono 1962-70 Capitol singles box set that is on LP and CD. A and B sides in order.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Austin on October 20, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
I like a strict chronology on a hits package. Mike doesn't like that, and I get his point, but as someone who thinks the songs tell a better story when laid out by date, I happen to not agree

The Fifty Big Ones tracklist is a total mess. Chronological is the best approach to these things nine times out of ten, especially when working with fifty years of material with such drastic variation in sounds and styles over time.

There is a sweet spot between strictly chronological and "whatever we do live" that works when done right...but 50 Big Ones doesn't get there. I don't mind some mingling -- some of my playlists jump from "Hushabye" to "In My Room", and I like how "California Girls" and "Good Vibrations" bookends the last two big compilations. But something like "Kokomo" to "You're So Good To Me" just sounds odd.


Title: Re: Details on the new greatest hits albums and remasters
Post by: Shady on October 20, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
I like a strict chronology on a hits package. Mike doesn't like that, and I get his point, but as someone who thinks the songs tell a better story when laid out by date, I happen to not agree

Agreed.

50 big ones just doesn't flow