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Title: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Aegir on July 06, 2012, 03:00:58 AM
seriously, they were one of the greatest live bands. how is there no video of Blondie singing Sail on Sailor with the Beach Boys?


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Lowbacca on July 06, 2012, 03:08:55 AM
No released video, you mean.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 06, 2012, 06:23:21 AM
Well, there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmYn0Ahgb8

There is video of them singing "Sail On Sailor" in the Endless Harmony doc, makes me wonder how much more footage exists from that gig.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Jon Stebbins on July 06, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 08:53:48 AM
Wow, never seen the live of You Need A Mess! thanks!


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Lowbacca on July 06, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related
WTF - how come I've never seen these?  :o Thanks!!


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: bgas on July 06, 2012, 09:14:39 AM
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related

Great that they lugged their instruments up to that rooftop; been nice if they had plugged them in, tho.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:34:40 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
Possibly, maybe someone can shed some light as to where they came from - it's certainly from the same source as the 2nd You Need A Mess Of Help... clip above, both having been filmed in Brighton (U.K.) on a very windy day, Mess... filmed on top of Brighton Pavilion, and Water... filmed on Brighton Pier.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Mikie on July 06, 2012, 09:48:59 AM
Ahhhhh, my favorite era as a Beach Boys fan! 


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: bgas on July 06, 2012, 01:34:06 PM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.

The BBs toured with Spring?  How did I miss that?


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: stack-o-tracks on July 06, 2012, 01:58:21 PM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.

The BBs toured with Spring?  How did I miss that?

He's talking about the season that runs from near the end of March to near the end of June.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 06, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
Slightly off-topic but also on-topic, I found this documentary about "Holland" from 2008, it is not in English (at least the narrated bits are not) but there is some nice interview footage with Blondie and Jack Rieley.  Definitely worth checking out.
http://www.geschiedenis24.nl/andere-tijden/afleveringen/2008-2009/Beach-Boys-in-de-polder.html


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Phoenix on July 06, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related

I love these videos and have had them on my harddrive for quite a while but I think things like them are the main reason people think Blondie played bass with the boys.  Outside of these clips he's almost always shown on guitar.  And while I suspect that Ed Carter plays guitar for some songs on In Concert (such as "Help Me Rhonda"), the Preiss book refers to the albums basslines as being played by "Ed Carter and Carl".  People take those videos as proof of Blondie's role in the band but does anyone think Bruce played bass (on any songs, in the studio or on stage) during the period he was shown doing so in the videos for "Kokomo", "Problem Child", etc?

To clarify, I'm not say that Blondie never played bass during his tenure with the group, just that he was no more "the bass player" for the band then Carl or Alan was at that time.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Mike's Beard on July 07, 2012, 02:39:22 AM
Mike definitely looks like he should be jigling a a paper cup at passersby and asking them for spare change.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Amy B. on July 07, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
Mike definitely looks like he should be jigling a a paper cup at passersby and asking them for spare change.

Mike looks like that guy from the Spin Doctors.


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Rocker on July 07, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
Here are the three takes of "You need a mess of help" (which would make a great concert addition imo). From "The ol' grey whistle test".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OXUnGTpzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuKKocU1eY
and the one already posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4


And although it's not with the Beach Boys, here's Blondie rocking SOS in June 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5WDhyPX9XI


Title: Re: Why are there no videos of Holland-era Beach Boys?
Post by: Aegir on July 07, 2012, 01:04:42 PM
I haven't seen Endless Harmony in awhile so I don't remember the Sail on Sailor performance, but the rest of the videos posted in this thread are more Carl and the Passions era. Nothing that sounds like the '73 concert album. the audio in that  Help Me Rhonda video was offensive.