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Title: What's going on in the bridge of "Spring Vacation"?
Post by: coco1997 on July 05, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
I was listening to "TWGMTR" tonight and really started wondering what happened to the bridge vocals of "SV". Reading the liner notes, the lyrics read only "Every night's a special occasion" but I can definitely hear Mike singing a second line ending with "...won't take much persuasion". However, the first half of the line is totally drowned out. I find it strange they would include those vocals on the album in such poorly-mixed quality and yet exclude the rest of the lyrics from the liner notes. What happened there?



Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: ohthosegirls on July 05, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
This is something I've wondered about as well. I thought it said something like "different persuasion." It sounds very rushed and like they were on a deadline imo.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 05, 2012, 07:37:14 PM
Yeah i mentioned in another thread, it feels like this bridge is incomplete, missing some parts..


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Wirestone on July 05, 2012, 09:19:14 PM
The lyrics are:

"Every night a special occasion
An encore or two won't take much persuasion."


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: coco1997 on July 05, 2012, 09:25:39 PM
The lyrics are:

"Every night a special occasion
An encore or two won't take much persuasion."

Thanks.  :)

I'd still like to know why the vocals are mixed so poorly on the bridge, and why that first line was left out of the liner notes, though.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Wirestone on July 05, 2012, 11:34:00 PM
The lyrics are:

"Every night a special occasion
An encore or two won't take much persuasion."

Thanks.  :)

I'd still like to know why the vocals are mixed so poorly on the bridge, and why that first line was left out of the liner notes, though.

It's the second line that's left out of the notes.

There are several missing lines and incorrect transcriptions in the lyric sheet. It's a mess.

The mix is kind of a mystery. But we won't know unless Frank Pappalardo or JT speak about it.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 05, 2012, 11:49:02 PM
I wish I couldn't hear any of the lyrics in Spring Vacation quite frankly...


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Aegir on July 06, 2012, 02:49:45 AM
I think the bridge is cool, I feel like they did it on purpose to be interesting.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: lance on July 06, 2012, 04:08:30 AM
Me, too.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: brother john on July 06, 2012, 04:47:13 AM
I think the bridge is cool, I feel like they did it on purpose to be interesting.

Exactly, I'm sure there are any number of very good reasons why they mixed it the way they did.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Michael Edwards Love on July 06, 2012, 05:31:48 AM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: GuyO on July 06, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Wirestone on July 06, 2012, 01:09:07 PM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Wirestone on July 06, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.

It's been suggested there is an extra keyboard or something on the album version. Not sure if I can hear that, myself.

The two versions do seem to be mastered (possibly mixed) somewhat differently -- the single seems to be more compressed.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on July 06, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.

It's been suggested there is an extra keyboard or something on the album version. Not sure if I can hear that, myself.

The two versions do seem to be mastered (possibly mixed) somewhat differently -- the single seems to be more compressed.

as i posted before, album top, single bottom:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bionicool123/other/twgmtrc.jpg)


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Wirestone on July 06, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
Missed that post, but there you go!


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Michael Edwards Love on July 06, 2012, 05:10:28 PM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.

It's been suggested there is an extra keyboard or something on the album version. Not sure if I can hear that, myself.

The two versions do seem to be mastered (possibly mixed) somewhat differently -- the single seems to be more compressed.

as i posted before, album top, single bottom:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bionicool123/other/twgmtrc.jpg)

thanks mr m!


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: oldsurferdude on July 06, 2012, 05:55:19 PM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.

It's been suggested there is an extra keyboard or something on the album version. Not sure if I can hear that, myself.

The two versions do seem to be mastered (possibly mixed) somewhat differently -- the single seems to be more compressed.

as i posted before, album top, single bottom:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bionicool123/other/twgmtrc.jpg)
Looks like Myke Luhv's cardiogram. :p


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: GuyO on July 07, 2012, 01:40:11 AM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: JanBerryFarm on July 07, 2012, 01:51:15 AM
A bit OT, but is there a difference in the single/album mixes of TWGMTR (song) or is this the same mix in both places?  I vaguely recall this being discussed elsewhere but can not find the answer.

It's been suggested there is an extra keyboard or something on the album version. Not sure if I can hear that, myself.

The two versions do seem to be mastered (possibly mixed) somewhat differently -- the single seems to be more compressed.

as i posted before, album top, single bottom:
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bionicool123/other/twgmtrc.jpg)
Looks like Myke Luhv's cardiogram. :p

Looks like your Eyebrows.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: runnersdialzero on July 07, 2012, 03:51:52 AM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".

I was a tad befuddled when this one first got out - sounded like "WHY DONT U RUN AWAY AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH ITHME?" or something, so much so that I made a post asking what the lyric was before realizing it just sounded really odd. I'm not even sure if it's an error, specifically.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: hypehat on July 07, 2012, 07:26:49 AM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".

That's not an edit, that's how he's singing it to fit the melody.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: runnersdialzero on July 07, 2012, 04:19:54 PM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".

That's not an edit, that's how he's singing it to fit the melody.

Syncopatin' it until the day he dies, it seems.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Autotune on July 07, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".

That's not an edit, that's how he's singing it to fit the melody.

Syncopatin' it until the day he dies, it seems.

That's the way he phrases it. Was discussed at length elsewhere.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: runnersdialzero on July 07, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
I think it's a mistake due to time constrictions. Note that also is a very clumsy edit in "From there to back again".

Where?

In Al's vocal track: "wi - with me".

That's not an edit, that's how he's singing it to fit the melody.

Syncopatin' it until the day he dies, it seems.

That's the way he phrases it. Was discussed at length elsewhere.

Not disagreein' with you at all, there  :3d


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on July 07, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
I actually love the "wi-hith me..."
Line


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Gohi on July 07, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
Can't believe some people don't like Al's phrasing on that line.
Jokers.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Craig Boyd on July 08, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
I actually love the "wi-hith me..."
Line

As do I. It really stood out to me the first time I heard it, just like the way he sings "wonderful" later on in the song. Classic Al.


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: runnersdialzero on July 08, 2012, 02:11:14 PM
Can't believe some people don't like Al's phrasing on that line.
Jokers.

STFU GOHI


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Ron on July 11, 2012, 05:42:10 PM
I think the bridge is cool, I feel like they did it on purpose to be interesting.

Exactly, I'm sure there are any number of very good reasons why they mixed it the way they did.

This is my take.  I noticed it too the first time I heard it.

I think this whole damn album was recorded similarly to "Beach Boys Party".... in that it was all kind of half-assed and nobody took it really very seriously.  Much of this may have been done to take pressure off Brian.  They're not recording their final album oh god I hope it's great.... no... they pitched it to Brian (or vice-versa) as "Yeah, we'll get together, hang out in the studio, see what happens" .

So at one time or another, they either mixed the bridge or whatever with what else is going on in the background... it drowned half of Mike's vocal out... they laughed about it, said "Oh well!" hahaha and went and got some cheeseburgers.

I don't think the half-assed nature of the liner notes... the bridge, how weird Jeff sounds on the bridge of "Isn't it Time"... etc. was all an oversight or a mistake, I think they just wanted it to all be organic and natural (even though the vox are all touched up, etc.)  They wanted the album to have some fun and spontenaiety in it. 


Title: Re: What's going on in the bridge of \
Post by: Aegir on July 11, 2012, 10:31:24 PM
well, I'm sorry what I said got lumped in with that line of thought. I think they did it that way on purpose. not on accident. not a happy accident. intended that way all along.

but really, who knows? we're all just guessing.