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Title: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: CenturyDeprived on June 20, 2012, 06:21:53 PM We've heard the story about David Marks having a twinge of regret for leaving the band around the time of Fun Fun Fun... but I've never really heard about Al during the mythic "dental school" (or was that debunked?) era when he left and was replaced by Marks.
Has Al ever spoken of his own twinge of regret as he watched the band soar to national stardom? Must've been surreal from his end. I wonder if he ever thought there would be a chance he'd ever be back in the band before Brian called him to take his own place on the road. I also wonder if the '62-'63 -era Al told any girls "yeah, I used to be in that band". Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: urbanite on June 20, 2012, 06:26:30 PM I thought David Marks was offered a chance to rejoin the band at some point after they became world famous, and he turned them down.
Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: MBE on June 21, 2012, 12:14:22 AM Buy the Lost Beach Boy book by Jon Stebbins, it really is worthwhile for info on Al and Dave's switching in 1963 and 1998. Plus it's simply a fantastic book on David.
Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 21, 2012, 01:57:07 AM We've heard the story about David Marks having a twinge of regret for leaving the band around the time of Fun Fun Fun... but I've never really heard about Al during the mythic "dental school" (or was that debunked?) era when he left and was replaced by Marks. Has Al ever spoken of his own twinge of regret as he watched the band soar to national stardom? Must've been surreal from his end. I wonder if he ever thought there would be a chance he'd ever be back in the band before Brian called him to take his own place on the road. I also wonder if the '62-'63 -era Al told any girls "yeah, I used to be in that band". All here - In The Beginning (http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/Beginning.html). Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: CenturyDeprived on June 22, 2012, 12:35:47 PM Thanks AGD, that article was a great read. But it didn't quite get to the heart of what I was wondering... which was what was going through Al's mind as he saw the band taking off after he left, particularly since it seems he left partially because he didn't see the band ever taking off to the point where he could make a proper living at it - and he very shortly saw that assumption turn out to be false.
I wonder if Al's ever spoken about any regret/sadness, etc. when he saw what could've been (I know he's a classy guy so he probably wouldn't ever have made a big deal about it, but it was a great stroke of luck to get the chance to return at the time he did, which was the band's heyday). I own the Lost Beach Boy book and need to re-read it too though, as it might answer some of my questions. Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: Dave Modny on June 22, 2012, 12:50:03 PM I wonder if Al's ever spoken about any regret/sadness, etc. when he saw what could've been (I know he's a classy guy so he probably wouldn't ever have made a big deal about it, but it was a great stroke of luck to get the chance to return at the time he did, which was the band's heyday). He actually (briefly) talked about his departure and return in the PBS Front Row Center special. IIRC, he even touched upon the motivation for his return (e.g. missing it all). Now, how much of that is revisionist history or simply the the Cliff's Notes version? I don't know. Title: Re: Al Jardine during the '62-'63 David Marks era Post by: Jon Stebbins on June 22, 2012, 01:07:32 PM Thanks AGD, that article was a great read. But it didn't quite get to the heart of what I was wondering... which was what was going through Al's mind as he saw the band taking off after he left, particularly since it seems he left partially because he didn't see the band ever taking off to the point where he could make a proper living at it - and he very shortly saw that assumption turn out to be false. He never mentioned it as regret to me, it was more like slap your head stupid...you almost blew it! The main thing Al told me was that the other guys took a long time to forgive him for it. In fact some of the other friends and family have told me the same thing, Al was generally held in a lower regard because of what he did. And of course Murry never really forgave him. When Brian wanted Al back Murry set the terms, "no partnership, no royalties." He set him up as a sideman. David on the other hand thought of Al as the guy who saved the day when Brian decided to not tour, he was blown away that Al could step in and sing like Brian and play the bass. He called him a hero.I wonder if Al's ever spoken about any regret/sadness, etc. when he saw what could've been (I know he's a classy guy so he probably wouldn't ever have made a big deal about it, but it was a great stroke of luck to get the chance to return at the time he did, which was the band's heyday). I own the Lost Beach Boy book and need to re-read it too though, as it might answer some of my questions. |