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according to Hits Daily Double

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Ooooh snaaaapp

Darn.  I really thought we had a chance to move up, I'm curious to see how it does next week.

Interestingly enough, Jackson barely lost to Adele, less than a thousand sales behind.

Isn't this amazing ? we're in 2012, and here we have a brand new album by The Beach Boys AND Neil Young & Crazy Horse in the top ten, god bless america!

Yeah, well certainly disappointing.  BUT, had you told me in December when all of this news broke that this album would even go top 10 I honestly would have said you were smokin' something. Even three weeks ago I did not see this type of chart placement happening. Good for the Boys.

How is that disappoiting ? it's even better than Surf's Up did... jeez guys.

Highest chart peak for a new Beach Boys album since 1965. Awesome news! I hope B Dub is pumped.

As much as I would have liked a #1, I doubt this will be disappointing to anyone affiliated with the Beach Boys; this is a bona fide success!

Exactly. How can anyone find that disappointing?

Jeez-oh!!!!!!!

30 years ago that news would have blown my socks off.  Today it's actually pretty hard to even accept.

Phenomenal come back!

AWESOME!

FREAKING AWESOME!

I know, I know, but for the last few days we all got sucked in to the thought we could have a number 1, admit it

This is their third highest charting studio album ever. Only their second top ten studio album since 'Pet Sounds'. It's 123 places higher than 'Friends' ever came and 148 places higher than 'Sunflower'. This is not dissapointing. This is beyond incredible.

well, it can still move up! Are these the exact Billboard approved numbers?  No remaining counties to be heard from? I want to hear the individual BBs' reactions; I'm sure they will comment in the press.

I am very happy and proud, but I still want #1; we all do.

It's possible, but not likely.  It's still a guess until Soundscan release the official numbers, but it's a very educated guess.  So 90% chance they're right about it. 

The way sales are calculated and the charts devised are not really comparable at all to most BB albums of the past. But whatever the comparisons mean, a #3 album is a huge success. If nothing else, this will hopefully snowball and lead to more interest. Also, let's hope it makes the group realize that they are a viable concern after this year's tour is over. They aren't going to do an album and tour every year for another decade, but another album and tour of some sort would be cool.

A nice early birthday present for Brian!

If they sell another 5k tonight that would closer to 70, the night is young and sales are still counting

Tremendous news! Just incredible. What a year for the Boys!

There is no god.

He made the radio....No. 3! ;)

The count stopped midnight Sunday, from what I understand.

I was hoping it'd maybe get pushed to #2, but Alan Jackson is tough to catch with his very loyal country fanbase and just the wrong time to get to #1 with Adele.

All is swell, though.

#3 is, in all honesty, utterly ridiculous. Unfathomable to all of us months ago. This is really a special thing. Yes, things are done and counted differently than decades ago, but it doesn't matter because that is how it is done now and The Beach Boys have a brand new record sitting at #3 on the Billboard Top 200 albums chart. I'm absolutely elated for them!

Happy for the #3.  Might have a decent second week of sales with Father's Day coming up on Sunday. If it stays top 10 next week I'd be impressed. To climb any higher, it will need heavy airplay.

Astonishing. And the Brits could only struggle up to #15...what gives?

Complete and total lack of promotion?  No buzz until recently regarding the band coming in for a tour because they waited to schedule the UK date(s)? 

Man, some people did certainly get hopes WAY too high, i didn't even think it would make the top 10! imagine my surprise when Billboard said it was gonna be number 5 and now it's number 3, holy moly.

But thing is, it will probably be the last great/big chart performance of the band, with all the things that helped this success (Brian's Back, 50 anniversary, first album in 20 years..) that they won't be able to use again for another record, cause yeah, we all know at this point they're gonna make another one (Brian not wanting to call the album Summer's Gone and the success it's getting, ect).

The boys had it hard, up against the moms and the country people, literally the two demo's who still buy CD's  :lol

Well, you guys all tout yourselves as "TEH BEST FANS EVAR"...I just thought a #1 would have been in your reach! :)

I am kidding with my xenophobia. This is a great achievement for the band.

Hey I'm American.  So don't blame me for the sins of the fatherland!  ;)

Eh I would say another top ten isn't out of their reach if promoted properly.  The good news is in this day and age there are many different avenues to get the music out to the public.  If The Beach Boys put on a full court press again they could scrape the top ten with their next release.  I'm actually really interested to see where this upcoming box set places.  Box sets usually aren't big sellers but if aimed at the Christmas market and rolling off the back of a successful tour I think it could do more than adequate numbers.  The thing is though, I think that new "hits" package that was being talked about being released later on this year as well is going to take some numbers away from the box although that probably won't matter except to us diehards who are probably more interested in seeing future archival releases rather than future hits packages.

I'd go as far to say that Hits package might chart pretty high, considering the demographic they're selling to.

Well yeah probably could make the top ten again (after all the music in general these days doesn't sell that much, as we all know..) but just sayin', this is probably the highest they'll get! tho it is far good enough obviously, best since what, 1965? it's incredible, i bet they are mindblown.

But hey you know, with all the things that came in before they got back for that album, like the official release of SMiLE, i thought they would totally gain confidence again and take it as a relief, take the opportunity to try something as experimental and artistic again.. tho they're almost in their 70's, just thought it was natural for Biran you know, after he did TLOS in 2008 : not that long ago..

And tho there is some nice moments (Life Suite obviously comes close to that idea) it still has some "safe" moments, so now that the album has a really big success, prehaps we can hope for more on the next album.. but heh, i'm just sayin' this like i don't care that much, i'm still happy how this is workin' for the band and how the album turned out to be, it's all good and exciting. :)

Tho there is this whole great Life Suite on the album and other interesting songs,

I'm happy for them but I'd also be lying if I didn't say that I'm disappointed. I wanted a #1. I actually came to expect a #2. I didn't see #3. Fug you, Country-man Jackson. I hate you and your stupid cowboy hats and your songs about women with black eyes but strong wills. (Note: I've never seen Alan Jackson, nor heard his songs, but I'm fairly confident my description is accurate).

I'm also not that impressed by #3. Why? (a) Because this album was promoted pretty damn well, (b) their target demographic consists of people who still actually pay for music, and (c) it was a big deal because they hadn't made an album in a very long time, (d) it had the whole "this is a comeback that we're making against all odds!" Rocky-style thing going for it, and (e) because this was obviously something Brian was heavily involved in, and considering he's currently riding a pretty high crest with the hip crowd, that should have given them at least a few more sales with groups outside of their target demographic.

#3's great, but I definite expected 2 and wanted 1.

No his songs are about , lonely rides, sweet hearts gone but not forgotten, someones eyes, missing dogs and living tough but with a gentle soul!

No QVC or concert sales in the UK.

#3...  I don't know what universe I've fallen into, but I like it here!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

From the looks of it, though, they didn't even need QVC to make it to #3. They would have gotten there on their own.

Shame.

To put things in their proper historical perspective, TWGMTR has a long way to go to even reach the sales numbers of Still Cruisin' which was certified gold in '89 and platinum in '03. Talk of being their biggest album since the '60s is way premature. Here's an interesting page with the BBs RIAA certifications:

http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/Riaa.html

"Proper" is relative. No albums today sell like albums in the '80s. Or albums in the '60s. Does that mean sales records for all albums sold in the last decade are worthless?

Of course not. The placings are the placings. This is the highest charting BB studio album since "Summer Days." Period.

# 3... Awesome  indeed!!

We ,the fans , are amazing!  The product is good and the marketing so far has been out of this world!

Anyone know sales figures for Stars and Strips  and Summer In Paradise?

PERSPECTIVE

Speak for yourself, but not for me, please.

I don't think you can compare sales numbers in 1965 or even 1985 with 2012.

All you can say is that TWGMTR was the 3rd best selling album in the USA last week. And that is better than most of us expected. It was the 15th best selling in the UK, without any tour, TV spots and with little in the way of promotion.

Just imagine yourself two years ago....if you had been told that Brian would return to the Beach Boys for a reunion tour you'd probably not be too surprised. If you'd also been told that a somewhat Brian-lead album would be produced, with him co-writing most of the songs....that said album would not suck and would actually contain a few genuinely great tracks....and that it would debut at #3....you'd have thought the person telling you was smoking something.

It is a real achievement for a band who's members are all around 70 years old, who may well not be relevant to 'youth', to score such a hit.

+1,000

Totally agreed here. There is nothing more annoying than "admit it, you really think like me about this!".

Personally, I don't really care how the album does sales-wise, except insofar as it affects whether the band make any more albums, but I'm glad for them and think number three is more than impressive.

As for the UK chart placing being lower, that only makes sense -- the band have been touring the US for the last six weeks, have appeared on some of the most popular TV shows, played to crowds of hundreds of thousands at some of the biggest festivals, had their own special on PBS, did an hour on QVC... the UK promotion has consisted of a few newspaper reviews and some radio play of the single. That's still been enough to get a *lot* of people who would not normally even consider a new Beach Boys album to buy it, but it's not on the same level.

The Beach Boys can blame their own fans for the album not going to #1.  If more of the folks spending $100 on tickets would have spent $7.99 on their new album, it would be an easy chart topper for sure.

Too bad most of the crowds are greatest hits crowds..  Us hardcores can't get the job done on our own.

lol..

Sir, you are a fool and a buffoon.

First of all: a new album by a group of mostly 70 year olds going to #3 is incredible. That almost never happens. Being dissapointed because it didn't go to #1 is kinda like winning 10 million in the lottery and complaining that you didn't win 11 million. There are people with problems far, far worse than the fact that their new album went to #3 instead of #1.

Second: are you really going to blame people for giving "just" 100 instead of 108 of their hard-earned dollars to a bunch of multi-millionaires?

The album naturally went to #3. Incredible accomplishment for a legendary band with 50 years in the biz.

And as someone pointed out: if they were really desperate for a number 1, the band/label could've easily bought another 10K copies without us having a clue. I've seen that kind of thing done recently for an unknown band.

Still psyched for BW and the crew. I'm thinking it's gonna inspire Brian & Mike to write a bunch of new tunes together.

Here's a chilling scenario: Realising were outsold by Alan Jackson the band decides to release a country-pop album in an attempt to move more units, picking up where they left off in 1996.

I jest, but anyway, #3 is amazing!

OK, here's confirmation:

http://www.billboard.com/news/alan-jackson-scores-top-debut-on-billboard-1007306752.story#/news/alan-jackson-scores-top-debut-on-billboard-1007306752.story

#3 it is!  Very very impressive!

 Fair enough. I got sucked into thinking it could go number 1. I admit it. 3 weeks ago I also never dreamed it would go top 10.

So is it too late for me to buy 14500 more copies??

I don't think there is any actual blame to be had for the album's peformance. #3 is great.

However, I don't think it's an uninteresting point that many people (not anybody here on this board) probably did pay over $100 for a ticket to the BB reunion show yet didn't buy the new album. I think that's an interesting thing to ponder. This is true of most acts. When I saw McCartney in 2002, I'm sure many if not most of the 15,000 in the arena had no intention of ever buying "Driving Rain."

Go for it, boi

That's Alan Jackson??? Jesus, he looks like Toby Keith.

the new album is also #3 on the global world charts.

 http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

If they had just put a little finger poppin' on there, it would be a million and two seller.

New album looks it's dropping to about #16 in week 2. Yikes! For comparison, Alan Jackson is holding at #4.

Wrong..

Beach Boys numbers come in really late, the chart is at 40% at the moment..

I know that's hard to understand but it will increase a lot when the chart reaches 100%

Were the QVC numbers included in the first week?  That would explain it.  It also had the boost of Target and Amazon selling the CD for $7.99 the first week.  I'd expect it to drop quite a bit when people who wanted it knew they had to get it that first week to get it that cheap.  

Why would sales for the Beach Boys be reported any slower than anybody else?

No idea but that was the case with the first week sales..

It might be because they are selling the albums at concerts etc, or it might just be the label

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw7J68dSJs4

I think it got this high mainly because of all the fans (including the common fan) that got the album as soon as it was released. I don't know how much of the non fans, regular music buyers get the album. But I don't think it will last very long up there (hope to be wrong though)

#17 on Billboard for the second week  of release on sales of 22,922 (64% drop from week 1). Good, bad, or about what you expected? Personally I had my fingers crossed for at least a second week in the top 10.

The album isn't distinguishable enough to stay very high in the charts. People bought it because it was the Beach Boys and it was a good album, not excellent.

  This is the way the charts work today - everything is loaded up on the front end, ensuring an inevitable drop in week #2. It happened to Madonna, Springsteen, Jack White...and now The Beach Boys.

Well 22,000 sales ain't half bad, I'm not too upset. I think he album might hover around that area in the charts for a while so long as they keep selling it at the shows.

I'm not quite convinced of the link between album sales and excellence of product...I wouldn't attribute that level of discernment to the public, at least as far as the hordes of stupid lunkheads here in the U.S.

http://www.happyplace.com/14179/people-on-twitter-ask-who-is-paul-mccartney-during-grammys

lp at number 23 for the week 7/7/12.

I think it was a hit because it was a special record. Reunion - Anniversary - Brian's back, etc. If they do another one I'm sure it won't chart as high as TWGMTR no matter how good it will be. The promotion won't be as heavy as this time and I also doubt that a tour as big as the current will happen. It's all about the celebration outside of us fans

I think still being in the top 25 after three weeks is pretty damn good for these guys.

Agreed.  I'm curious to see how well this album hangs in there, the top 200 I mean.  I figure it will make a nice run, up until July 15 which is the last US show.  So long as there are American shows, the album will continue to sell at the concerts.