Title: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Newguy562 on June 09, 2012, 05:02:26 PM Well I know it's confusing how some albums are considered the worst but some still have gems and some people like them (not everybody have to agree)
What album that is considered crap/flop do you actually like/enjoy? Creedence Clearwater Revival - Mardi Gras (even though it's been deemed the worst they ever did or the worst album by any major rock band.) David Bowie - Never Let Me Down..(Shining Star? no album with that song on it deserves to be trashed..) The Ramones - End of the Century (Screw London Calling..this is the best punk album! lol) The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (Sgt. Peppers? psh my ass this was something totally different and way better.) T. Rex - Tanx (This was a great follow up to The Slider i'm suprised many didn't realize it at that time.) Radiohead - Hail to the Thief (ok not a flop but definitely considered one of their weakest releases.) Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: MyGlove on June 09, 2012, 05:57:10 PM You really like Never Let Me Down? I tried it today and didn't geet through three songs before i became extremely bored.
anyway Smiley Smile (obviously) Velvet Underground and Nico - VU Pinkerton by Weezer Pop by U2 (funny enough, it almost seems less pretentious than everything else they've ever done, so i like it) Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Newguy562 on June 09, 2012, 06:17:55 PM You really like Never Let Me Down? I tried it today and didn't geet through three songs before i became extremely bored. wow really? boring is the last word i would use to describe that brilliant piece of art :) i can't believe people s*** on that album so much :/ it might be my favorite album of his in the 80's.. check out the song "shining star"anyway Smiley Smile (obviously) Velvet Underground and Nico - VU Pinkerton by Weezer Pop by U2 (funny enough, it almost seems less pretentious than everything else they've ever done, so i like it) Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Dead Parrot on June 09, 2012, 07:55:25 PM Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
Wings - Back To The Egg Oasis - Be Here Now Fleetwood Mac - Tusk Fleetwood Mac - Bare Trees The Stone Roses - Second Coming Richard Thompson - Henry The Human Fly Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Newguy562 on June 09, 2012, 08:02:42 PM Pink Floyd - The Final Cut final cut is a pretty big flop lol..what do you like about it?Wings - Back To The Egg Oasis - Be Here Now Fleetwood Mac - Tusk Fleetwood Mac - Bare Trees The Stone Roses - Second Coming Richard Thompson - Henry The Human Fly Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Dead Parrot on June 09, 2012, 08:36:16 PM final cut is a pretty big flop lol..what do you like about it? Some great songs Orchestrations that compliment the songs, but don't overwhelm them Great production Great guitar playing from David Gilmour, particularly on "Your Possible Pasts", "The Fletcher Memorial Home", and "The Final Cut" I can understand why a lot of people, including some of the people who made it, don't like the album though. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Ron on June 09, 2012, 08:56:24 PM Pinkerton by Weezer Pop by U2 (funny enough, it almost seems less pretentious than everything else they've ever done, so i like it) Hell yeah! Pop was so great. If every album sounded like Pop U2 woul be my favorite band. I agree with the pretention, too. At least all their B.S. was tongue in cheek on that album, lol! That guitar solo on Discoteque was enough to lift the album up another point or so. it was a 7 before that solo, then it was an 8/10. My ears are still ringing from trying to destroy the speakers in my car playing that as loud as I possibly could. I also quoted the pinkerton thing. There's something about Weezer, where I just want to believe Rivers is a genius so much that I like all of their albums. I dont' really listen to them that much, but I enjoy them. I don't think I could possibly consider any of their stuff a flop. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Ron on June 09, 2012, 08:58:55 PM Oasis - Be Here Now Yup. When Be Here Now came out, as a huge Oasis fan, it was everything I wanted at the time. I saw all the bad reviews and couldn't believe it. To my friends and I (probably... 19,20,21 at the time) it was great. Lots of time spent riding around at the Beach listening to it blaring out of the windows. I think a lot of critics when they slam albums like that, want it to be a masterpiece. Ultimately an album like that has a purpose, just to have a good time listening to it, it's Rock and Roll man. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on June 09, 2012, 10:37:47 PM Pinkerton by Weezer Pop by U2 (funny enough, it almost seems less pretentious than everything else they've ever done, so i like it) Hell yeah! Pop was so great. If every album sounded like Pop U2 woul be my favorite band. I agree with the pretention, too. At least all their B.S. was tongue in cheek on that album, lol! That guitar solo on Discoteque was enough to lift the album up another point or so. it was a 7 before that solo, then it was an 8/10. My ears are still ringing from trying to destroy the speakers in my car playing that as loud as I possibly could. I also quoted the pinkerton thing. There's something about Weezer, where I just want to believe Rivers is a genius so much that I like all of their albums. I dont' really listen to them that much, but I enjoy them. I don't think I could possibly consider any of their stuff a flop. Pop is amazing! The songwriting is off the hook and artistic/edgy U2 were still alive and kicking!!!! Here's my list: Tales Of Topographic Oceans - Yes Pleasant Dreams - Ramones Subterranean Jungle - Ramones Among My Swan - Mazzy Star LA (Light Album) - Beach Boys Flick Of The Switch - AC/DC And Now The Runaways - Runaways Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: MBE on June 10, 2012, 12:12:45 AM I'm only talking about creatively misjudged albums yet to fully get their day
Back To The Egg is one, Satanic is another. Elvis Now and Raised On Rock by Elvis Presley Under The Red Sky and Self Portrait Bob Dylan Becoups Of Blues Ringo Starr Extra Texture by George Harrison Face Dances by The Who Can't think of any others now but maybe I'll think of more. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: JanBerryFarm on June 10, 2012, 12:30:04 AM (http://www.blujay.com/1/83/1687819_s1_i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: MyGlove on June 10, 2012, 09:10:08 AM I'm only talking about creatively misjudged albums yet to fully get their day Back To The Egg is one, Satanic is another. Elvis Now and Raised On Rock by Elvis Presley Under The Red Sky and Self Portrait Bob Dylan Becoups Of Blues Ringo Starr Extra Texture by George Harrison Face Dances by The Who Can't think of any others now but maybe I'll think of more. Face Dances! Absolutely. I love every song on that album. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: onkster on June 10, 2012, 03:53:13 PM I'm gonna say:
Frank - Squeeze (I think this is actually their best album) McCartney II - by you-know-who On the Beach - Neil Young (although it's probably not considered a flop now) Mummer - XTC Chicago 13 - though I'm not as big on it now; at the time, I thought it was extremely catchy stuff Photograph Smile - Julian Lennon Spilt Milk - Jellyfish - yeah, I know it's a beloved album, but it cost half a mil to make, and it pretty much didn't sell. Still: a must have for all pop fans! Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on June 10, 2012, 07:02:49 PM I get your point but I'd never think of "Spilt Milk" as anything other than the greatest album of the 90s and up there with anything!
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: hypehat on June 11, 2012, 08:58:19 AM Oasis - Be Here Now Yup. When Be Here Now came out, as a huge Oasis fan, it was everything I wanted at the time. I saw all the bad reviews and couldn't believe it. To my friends and I (probably... 19,20,21 at the time) it was great. Lots of time spent riding around at the Beach listening to it blaring out of the windows. I think a lot of critics when they slam albums like that, want it to be a masterpiece. Ultimately an album like that has a purpose, just to have a good time listening to it, it's Rock and Roll man. IDK, I didn't go into Be Here Now expecting a masterpiece (no Oasis album is, and I thought that when I actually liked them too) but it's fundamentally flawed - Cocaine's a hell of a drug... It's incredibly underwritten and insanely overproduced. It just becomes so tiring to actually, y'know, listen to. Probably sounds great in the background/car stereo/with the aid of several thousand pounds worth of Colombian marching powder, mind. What was that quote from Noel about All Around The World? Something like 'I like Hey Jude, but then I thought to myself - wouldn't it be better if it was EVEN longer and had, like, four keychanges in it?' and I just think that sums up everything wrong about that album. As for me on this thread, idk. I don't like basing it on commercial standing, because some of the greatest music ever doesn't sell much (easy, Ron). So critical flops? But the only records I really pay attention to the critical standing of are the records I already know and thus I will probably already like, and so no critic is going to change my mind. Despite the fact I never actually said much, that's a bit of an essay. That'll learn me to drink coffee at 5pm...... Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: meltedwhiskeyinmyhand on June 12, 2012, 07:40:06 AM REM - UP, first album without Bill Berry. They went in a new direction, I think the album is brilliant, most thought it was crap.
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: cablegeddon on June 12, 2012, 07:47:35 AM Be here now was huge in Europe and a flop in the U.S. Standing on the shoulders was their first flop in Europe. I love both albums as well as their debut. Gas Panic and Go let it out are to underrated gems on Standing.
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Summertime Blooz on June 12, 2012, 04:10:47 PM Hall & Oates- Beauty On A Back Street
Elton John- Blue Moves Electric Light Orchestra- Secret Messages Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: onkster on June 14, 2012, 05:06:50 PM Oh, I know an Elton one: The Fox.
It's actually a pretty good bunch of songs, with a mini-suite thrown in. The single is maybe the weakest part ("Nobody Wins") but even that seemed good at the time after that "Victim of Love" nightmare. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: MBE on June 14, 2012, 08:43:41 PM McCartney II is a good choice, has some good melodies.
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Jukka on June 18, 2012, 01:29:42 PM Stone Roses' Second Coming. One great, if flawed piece of work.
Pearl Jam's No Code. Seems like everyone's forgotten it, but it really is a great album, my fave! Come on, someone must agree? Van Halen's Fair Warning. Van Halen's finest and heaviest hour. Extreme's Waiting for the Punchline. Does anyone remember this? Their other albums are cheesy wannabe-Queen-metal, but this album is simply stunning. Suede's Dog Man Star. They completely lost it after this. A dark masterpiece. Chinese Democracy. It's not bad! Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Heysaboda on June 18, 2012, 02:04:31 PM When the Byrds released Byrdmaniax, it was considered to be a flop. People couldn't understand it because it contained 2 gospel songs, a show tune, some comedy music, a couple of acoustic numbers with orchestra, a bluegrass instrumental and even a Jackson Browne song "Jamaica Say You Will". (He was not well known at the time.)
But I liked it from the beginning, and I still play it, all of it, to this day. It's wacky and surprising, but the gospel numbers ARE gorgeous. And those acoustic numbers ARE lovely. This was McGuinn and the Byrds totally upending peoples' expectations and "mostpeople" couldn't handle it. So scroo mostpeople. The fact that they are missing out actually makes me glad. :p :hat Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Runaways on June 24, 2012, 04:53:42 AM the killers - sam's town
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: bluesno1fann on April 05, 2014, 11:52:54 PM SUNFLOWER!!!
....and most of the Beach Boys albums from the late 60's and early 70's. Agreed with some of the people here who included Pink Floyd's The Final Cut and the Stones's Satanic Majesties! Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Please delete my account on April 06, 2014, 05:02:19 AM Paul Simon- Hearts and Bones R.E.M.- Fables of the Reconstruction Pet Shop Boys- Elysium Boo Radleys- C'mon Kids The Cure- The Top Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Malc on April 06, 2014, 11:59:22 PM Tony Banks "A Curious Feeling", Mike Rutherfords "Smallcreeps Day" and Steve Hackets "Spectral Mornings"... all amazing albums but forever overshadowed by the solo success of the Phil Collins collection and the ongoing credibility of the Gabriel releases...
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: JK on April 07, 2014, 02:02:21 AM Well I know it's confusing how some albums are considered the worst but some still have gems and some people like them (not everybody have to agree) What album that is considered crap/flop do you actually like/enjoy? The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (Sgt. Peppers? psh my ass this was something totally different and way better.) I also consider it to be the great psychedelic album! My faves are See What Happens (!!!), 2000 Light Years From Home, She's a Rainbow, Gomper. Others I like as well. All in all, that was a very good attempt at making unconventional non-bluesy & non-r'n'b LP for The Rolling Stones. I'm assuming "huge flop" is meant comparatively. Comparatively huge flops i enjoy (and that have not been mentioned yet) include stuff from Gary Numan's middle period (eg Metal Rhythm), Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, The Beta Band's self-named debut (even they hated it!) and U2 's October. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Orange Crate Art on April 07, 2014, 07:14:12 AM Smiley Smile for sure. And most of the Velvet Underground, MC5, Blue Cheer and Stooges catalogs.
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 07, 2014, 10:01:11 AM Are we talking albums which were a commercial disaster, or those which were lambasted by the critics whilst selling truckloads ?
The former - The Story Of Simon Simopath (Nirvana, 1967)... The latter - Tales From Topographic Oceans (Yes, 1973). Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: bluesno1fann on April 07, 2014, 04:43:39 PM Are we talking albums which were a commercial disaster, or those which were lambasted by the critics whilst selling truckloads ? The former - The Story Of Simon Simopath (Nirvana, 1967)... The latter - Tales From Topographic Oceans (Yes, 1973). I think it's commercial disasters Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: jet without wings on April 07, 2014, 07:00:30 PM In no particular order
Souther Hillman Furay Band (1st album) Dave Mason Mariposa d' Oro Eric Clapton Back Home Jet without wings Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Moon Dawg on April 07, 2014, 08:20:01 PM REM - UP, first album without Bill Berry. They went in a new direction, I think the album is brilliant, most thought it was crap. Yes. Things trended DOWN for R.E.M. shortly thereafter, but UP was quite good. Also TRANS-Neil Young BE HERE NOW-Oasis FOOL-Elvis Presley THE BELLE ALBUM-Al Green HERE, MY DEAR-Marvin Gaye FOOL is an odd duck, even for an Elvis album. It was the follow up to the multimedia global spectacular ALOHA FROM HAWAII success yet only reached #52 on Billboard, a most dismal showing right on the heels of one of the King's greatest triumphs. RCA was antsy for a new studio album so they put out various odds and ends recorded 1971-72, somehow coming up with a tasteful, even subtle, melancholy folk pop album. The only thing it lacked was the "I'm Leavin" single from 1971, a situation easily remedied by modern technology. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Ron on April 07, 2014, 10:43:43 PM I really liked Be Here Now by Oasis. I was really excited when it came out and my friends and I had it on all the time everywhere we went.
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Ron on April 07, 2014, 10:46:34 PM Dammit I just realized I replied the same thing two years ago.
Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on April 07, 2014, 10:51:48 PM
Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: leggo of my ego on April 08, 2014, 06:49:30 AM Nazz - all three LPs: Nazz, Nazz Nazz & Nazz III
love em! Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: Loaf on April 08, 2014, 08:19:09 AM Kula Shaker, Peasants, Pigs and Astronauts.
Terrible title, great music. Title: Re: Albums That Were Considered Huge Flops That You Actually Enjoy... Post by: JK on April 08, 2014, 10:02:10 AM Well I know it's confusing how some albums are considered the worst but some still have gems and some people like them (not everybody have to agree) What album that is considered crap/flop do you actually like/enjoy? The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (Sgt. Peppers? psh my ass this was something totally different and way better.) I also consider it to be the great psychedelic album! My faves are See What Happens (!!!), 2000 Light Years From Home, She's a Rainbow, Gomper. Others I like as well. All in all, that was a very good attempt at making unconventional non-bluesy & non-r'n'b LP for The Rolling Stones. I'm assuming "huge flop" is meant comparatively. Comparatively huge flops i enjoy (and that have not been mentioned yet) include stuff from Gary Numan's middle period (eg Metal Rhythm), Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, The Beta Band's self-named debut (even they hated it!) and U2 's October. Speaking of U2, their "No Line on the Horizon" from 09 or something was received pretty poorly IIRC but I've always liked it. Breathe and Magnificent stick out in memory as being favourites. |