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in the top 3 of Billboard:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-beach-boys-set-for-highest-charting-1007279152.story#/news/the-beach-boys-set-for-highest-charting-1007279152.story

This is HUGE! Will be highest ranking since Endless Summer in 1974.

Great news, this will be their highest charting studio album since Summer Days (ASN!!)! Also the article clarifies that the QVC sales will count in the first weeks total.

The Beach Boys are back.... :thud

Well, this surely will encourage them to release more albums and keep Brian in the band.

they managed to sell 5k at last nights show, maybe that'll help  :-D

If they really did sell all 5K of those.... that may have put them over the top. 

I'm telling you guys.  It's VERY POSSIBLE that they debut at #1.  50% chance, at least. 

Nop.

Yop.

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That's amazing to hear, they deserve it.  It's really a great record.  I know Dylan had a 38 year gap between number one albums, but can't seem to find the record for a group.  That would be quite an achievement, but even top 5 is a huge success in my book.

Well their last album to be in the Billboard top was 15 Big Ones and it was just number 8 i believe (correct ?)
so yeah, if this actually goes IN the top 5, that would definitely blow their mind.

 :lol

Oh Ron you make me laugh.

Between Me pushing the album on the board, and Mike Love pushing the album (and slamming Adele) at the concerts, Positivity Alone is going to get them AT LEAST to #2. 

Wait wait wait, when did he slam Adele?

no slam; he just said "buy american" or something gentle and wry like that.

I"m joking... but yeah he mentioned her by name at the concert Saturday, and supposedly SOLD OUT 5,000 copies of the CD they had on hand because 50 of them were autographed. 

BTW, I love Adele, wish her all the best.  Next week.  Until Monday morning though, ... BUY AMERICAN!!!!

Those 5000 copies better be tallied!

They will be, Mike was specifically saying to buy them, so they'd count, so he could beat Adele!  It was awesome! 

were you there?

No, but your description was so good I felt like I was! 

I'd really like for that to happen, but I think that the 5k may not count toward this week's total.  As I understand the article, the chart week ended on Thursday?  I hope I'm wrong.

You're wrong, Eric, thankfully!  They have until midnight Sunday (today).  So they count!  

BTW the Thursday thing was when they last had numbers.  So the article is saying, they have the numbers for Monday through Thursday (but the full numbers include through Sunday night). 

Cool!  Thanks for clarifying!  I really hope they count the units sold at the shows!

Small but relevant nugget of info - The Beach Boys have never had a #1 studio album.

Really, huh, weird.

Well i guess that explains why they're always just about the hits now.

Okay....I'll be the guy who asks this: What's the deal with Adele? My God, that record's been out forever! Who the hell is still buying it? Yeah, I get it. Retro-blue-eyed-soul and all that...(yawn)...but still...


STEP AWAY FROM THE ADELE CD....NICE AND SLOW.....   

I'm going around to all of the old forums I haven't been on in years to plug this thing :lol

A nugget of info.....TWGMTR was at 13 in the midweek UK chart on 6th June. It could easily move either way before the final week's chart is published in 9 hours or so....but it is a fair indication that it will at least debut in the top 20.

Nice to see Paul Simon's Graceland have a re-entry at 10 in the midweek UK chart.

As far as UK chart performance goes TWGMTR could well be the best charting album (of new material) for the Beach Boys since Love You or conceivably Holland.

SMiLE Sessions spent one week at 25 in the UK. For comparison BWPS debuted at 7 and spent four weeks in the UK charts...and spawned two hit singles.

UK has really good taste.

One big mistake is delaying the vinyl. All the major record collectors of sixties music would have bought one or two this week myself included. A couple of thousand that potentially would have sold this week on record may not have meant anything 20 years ago but today it can make a HUGE difference.

So -

probably our beloved septuagenarians (metaphorically speaking) may have their first chart-topping LP/CD soon?

Long may they run.

I propose that for their next effort, they team up with the sweet Russian babooshkas that were so successful in the Euro Song Contest recently:

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Sales will soar, I tells ya.

I doubt they had much of a choice. There are few decent LP mastering houses around these days, and sadly one consequence is that vinyl editions of new releases tend to be delayed a couple of months compared to the CD.

The cynical among us might surmise that they want us to buy it twice, on CD and then on LP. But there is the very real issue of supply, demand and timescales with vinyl mastering.

I heard it's #16 in Germany. Knowing my country, I'd call that a success

i'm sure they plan on having a butt-load of cd's to sell today. get all the sales reported that they can before midnight today. and at only $5 a cd they should sale a lot of them.

They would have to sell them at Bonaroo though, is that possible/feasible?

oops...forgot about that. maybe not then.....just a hope/wish on my part for a chance at #1  :)

Yeah, I agree that would have helped a lot. 

They should have packaged the album with the tour like Madonna recently did. Helped give her big first week sales (and a huge plummet the week after). Basically, you send a copy to everyone's house for every ticket order for this concert tour. They'd probably have netted first week sales of 200K or so in the United States and could have simply tacked on an extra three bucks a ticket to make up for it.

Wait so if i just go buy another copy right now (at 8:43 PM on Sunday night) it would still count right? how do they determine that?

First week is traditionally 9 days.....Tuesday through the next Thursday. So yes, it should still count toward the first week total. Unless Billboard has modified things to make it the following Tuesday, the first week shouldn't end until Thursday the 14th. Regardless, if you buy now, it will add to the Soundscan total.

Basically, they have an advantage over Adele since her sales from Tuesday the 5th through Thursday the 7th were counted for last week's total, I believe.

Right on! And on today's charts, it's all about the first week, unless your name is Adele. Not trying to be pessimistic here (sorry, Mr. Love), but I expect a huge dropoff in second week sales. IIRC, TLOS had a first week debut of 25, and spent a grand total of 3 weeks in the Billboard 200. I hope TWGMTR has a longer chart run.

When I watched that show with a bunch of friends who know I'm a Beach Boys fan, I said: "Imagine! They are older than the Beach Boys! :-D"



I am cynical, and regret to say: It worked! I probably would have bought the vinyl only had it been released the same day.

Oh, and I think TWGMTR charts that high because mainly old folks want to hear that album who don't know how to illegally download for free or copy CDs, so they have to buy the physical CD! :wink

 :lol

...and justice is done. God not only made the radio, but revenges Himself sweetly and belatedly.

Here's Hits Daily Double's "Building Sales" chart.  Updated during the day today and tommorow, 54% in right now (whatever that means) and Beach Boys are in #3.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

It's kinda like election night.  

BTW, can't tell too much so far, for instance Neil Young is in 16th place, which is sure to change.  The Beach Boys have two 'big' things in their pocket, QVC sales of about 18,000 or so that haven't been added yet, and apparently they've sold thousands and thousands of albums at a few tour dates.  So it'll be interesting to see if they can sliiiiiide into second, or possibly even first. 

quite confusing, eh, with that 19,000 figure seeming so low; I bought that many myself. A weel at #1 on Amazon yields how many, I wonder.  Well, will the BB be happy to be #3 I wonder?Do we need that #1 to make history?

We can't know anything for sure until all the numbers are in, they may have only taken the numbers from... say... Itunes so far, where they were way behind, but haven't counted Amazon where they were way ahead.  Fun to watch develop, though. 

Mike has seemed slightly obsessed with getting a number one for this album.  So while everyone else will be quite pleased with # 3, I think Mike would be just slightly dissapointed by it.

I think he only started pushing the "let's make this number 1" thing once he realized this album had a real good chance of actually accomplishing that.  This has to be sort of a surprise to him, that's it's doing so well, wouldn't you think?

Go, Mike, go!

Ya gotta love the Lovester!!!

 :hat

10,000 albums... at 5 bucks a pop... costs 50,000.  So depending on how bad Mike wanted a #1... lol.... 

Arghh.

We have one more day to wait for the Billboard announcement!