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All the songs were his, some of them were very good. I can easily imagine he coulda done it like he did Gershwin, what an album that would be. Take the best cuts from Adult Child and a handful new compositions and then he would have a very solid album. Anyone else had this though or discussed it? Just thought people would find the idea interesting.

the difference here is that Adult Child is a fully completed album ... it's not unfinished.  All they need to do is release it as originally intended.  They probably don't want to because it's too weird.

it would be better than and outsell that average Disney album he did instead.

There was huge clamoring for years for SMiLE, and with many great reasons...can't see enough of that to justify special treatment for A/C.

I don't think the shelving of "Adult/Child" weighed heavily on Brian's mind as much as "SMiLE" did.

I am surprised, though, that with all the re-visiting and re-recording Brian did in his solo career, that he never touched "It's Over Now" or especially "Still I Dream Of It".

Although it wasn't rerecorded, remember that Still I Dream Of It was on the I Just Wasn't Made For These Times album.

He worked on Still I Dream of It with Gary Usher. They retitled it Still I Dream of You.

But, that's kind of what I was saying. They used a scratchy demo instead of recording a new version, which is what IJWMFTT was - an album of re-recordings. It didn't make sense.

I think it's sort of a depressing album for Brian to re-visit, considering his mental/physical health during that time, in an entirely different way than his health during the Smile-era. 

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Because the powers that be would probably rather invent a time machine and ensure Adult Child never happened than encourage Brian to finish it as they did with Smile.

I think they just should put all finished or half finished songs out.

and all quarter finished songs, and all songs with just a verse or just a chorus, and every scrap of a song, and, and

I guess because it's not as famous ? but maybe in the future.

I would pay to see this  ;D

I'm wondering if some of the lyrics embarass him

Yeah I know. Still anything pre 1975 or by Dennis that's more than a doodle would likely be pretty cool  BHOTR aside.....but even that is funny.

Shame because adult/child kicks MIU's butt .

he could remake them, many of the lyrics are fine and down to earth, the music is spectacular some of it. He coulda used all the music and retitled it, given new lyrics and there he would have a strong product.

 Also LA, KTSA, BB 85, SC, and SIP imo

They could have done so much with the Adult/Child album. I imagine a tv showcase (they were big in the 70s).

See "She Says That She Needs Me" versus "Sherry, She Needs Me". The former is fairly bland and non-descript, but I'm very much a fan of the latter. I can't help but think absolutely brilliant stuff like "Don't sit around on your ass smokin' grass - that stuff went out a long time ago!" would be "sanitized" for release by the folks who run the Brian show.

I'd also guess they view a lot of this material as too weird to begin with.

I may well be a minority of one on this issue -

I am pretty satisfied with what there is, what we know, and what we conjecture to have been the case with Adult Child. It is simply not an urgent topic for me, and I don't think conscious and orchestrated 'massive popular demand' would be a good idea at this moment in time.

Should 'it' materialize, however, I am afeard that the next step would be: a 5CD/2LP/2x45/casebound book/photo book/poster set of 'The Summer In Paradise Sessions'.

Perhaps it even will have a lightbulb in it. Or a stuffed baby shark.

I totally would be if more of this stuff saw official release. The bootlegs sound okay, glad to have them, but I'm sure the masters sound worlds better, and it kind of sucks that so much of this stuff is just rotting in the vaults.

what I mean was for all the material to be rerecorded as Brian rerecorded Smile for BWPS. It would sound cleaner and fit in with TLOS and Gershwin. The songs are unused and are most likely only going to appear in a boxset in their original form.

He just needs some new lyrics for some of the songs. A short note detailing the context of the original recording sessions and how it fits with Love You, could be pretty good.

Some more verse lyrics for Life For The Living, a complete rewriting of Tomboy with new title and lyrics. I don't know, it sounds very promising in my head.

Why should Brian go through a whole new writing period when he has such unreleased gems under his belt? As pointed our 'She Says That She Needs Me' is an example of my idea. Old composition rerecorded, new lyrics etc. = new good song!

While they're the band's songs to finish, my point with "She Says That She Needs Me" is I'm not really a fan of the new lyric. Can you imagine a "reworked" "Life Is For The Living" with the "Brian is an important person" people in charge? "Life... is for the living! Don't sit around on the couch, bein' a slouch!" or something equally boring would probably come into the equation. In fact, that line still sounds a bit too funny. Quick, someone dress it up in even more boring clothing.

The original recordings are finished and sound fine to me. As I said before, the originals exist in better quality than the bootlegs. Unless something possesses Brian to re-record them, I'd rather just see these songs in their original form on an archival release.

There is also the small matter of Adult Child not being very good. Let's break it down.

Life is for the Living: The converted can possibly appreciate this on a Brian-being-Brian level, but I'm sure that Mike Love expressed his noted view on the subject of Adult Child before the end of the eighth bar of its first song.

Hey Little Tomboy: Then again, Mike was apparently happy to sing on this, so who knows what goes on in his mind.

Deep Purple: Having front-loaded the quality, we now hit the filler.

H.E.L.P. Is On The Way: Doesn't count, and it's on the GV box set besides.

It's Over Now: Dick Reynolds' arrangements are tacky Vegas hackery at its worst, and Carl's vocal performances of this period are slightly depressing. As songwriting though, it's as good as everybody says. And it's on the GV box set.

Everybody Wants to Live: Now you're talking. However, we're very much in Love You territory here - sublime for the converted, "Jesus Christ, what is this sh*t?" for the other 99% of mankind.

Shortnin' Bread: Try harder, Brian.

Lines: For me, Adult Child is worth its weight for this alone. Like the best of Love You, it shows Brian's genius cracked but intact. But also like the best of Love You ... see Everybody Wants to Live.

On Broadway: I quite like this actually, in spite of myself. Who's with me?

Games Too Can Play: See H.E.L.P. Plus, not even a good song on its own terms.

It's Trying to Say: Sounds like something that was deservedly left off Love You.

Still I Dream of It: Same deal as It's Over Now. And I do wish someone of good judgement had at least been on hand to give Brian's lyrics a tweak here and there.

Pssshhh.

As far as releasing Adult Child..

If they sold 500 copies digitally for 10 bucks a pop, that would easily cover Mark's mixing fees + artwork design. The rest is profit.

And sh*t, Mark probably doesn't even need to remix it. Mastering, Artwork, and maybe the mixing of a few unbooted bonus tracks.