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Title: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: MBE on May 25, 2012, 12:22:27 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/14/DD5D1FP9H6.DTL


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: MBE on May 25, 2012, 01:43:59 AM
Oops I forgot this was discussed a few years ago sorry.


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: Jay on May 25, 2012, 02:09:56 AM
The "personality problems" quote from Carl sounds interesting. Does anybody know the story behind it?


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: ? on May 25, 2012, 02:17:46 AM
Oops I forgot this was discussed a few years ago sorry.

No need for apologies Mike, I welcome it.  This board has been sorely lacking in Dennis discussion lately.

Outside of this reporter, was Dennis ever considered ignored in his lifetime?  This goes against everything I've ever been led to believe.


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: hypehat on May 25, 2012, 02:55:32 AM
Oops I forgot this was discussed a few years ago sorry.

No need for apologies Mike, I welcome it.  This board has been sorely lacking in Dennis discussion lately.

Outside of this reporter, was Dennis ever considered ignored in his lifetime?  This goes against everything I've ever been led to believe.

I could understand musically ignored by the group - he threatened to go solo since the early 70's for a reason - but by fans? Never!


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: MBE on May 25, 2012, 03:04:08 AM
Oops I forgot this was discussed a few years ago sorry.

No need for apologies Mike, I welcome it.  This board has been sorely lacking in Dennis discussion lately.

Outside of this reporter, was Dennis ever considered ignored in his lifetime?  This goes against everything I've ever been led to believe.
Yeah Selvin is really off on that. Still there are a few interesting things in the article.


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: Rocker on May 25, 2012, 04:13:29 AM
The "personality problems" quote from Carl sounds interesting. Does anybody know the story behind it?


Well, I guess it's a diplomatic way to say he's drugged up


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: MBE on May 25, 2012, 04:25:34 AM
The "personality problems" quote from Carl sounds interesting. Does anybody know the story behind it?


Well, I guess it's a diplomatic way to say he's drugged up
It was.


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 25, 2012, 09:09:28 AM
I like some of Selvin's books but he was clueless about Dennis. "snubbed by fans"...guess he never saw the TAMI Show, or heard about the girls storming the stage and knocking the other band members aside to get to Dennis (just ask Brian), or the lines of fans outside his hotel room wherever they stayed. Selvin didn't do enough research to know that Dennis got more fan mail than all of the others combined. His whole premise is incredibly flawed. Read his Rick Nelson book, but ignore his take on the Beach Boys because he's miles off.


Title: Re: Dennis article by Joel Selvin
Post by: endofposts on May 25, 2012, 12:24:05 PM
I like some of Selvin's books but he was clueless about Dennis. "snubbed by fans"...guess he never saw the TAMI Show, or heard about the girls storming the stage and knocking the other band members aside to get to Dennis (just ask Brian), or the lines of fans outside his hotel room wherever they stayed. Selvin didn't do enough research to know that Dennis got more fan mail than all of the others combined. His whole premise is incredibly flawed. Read his Rick Nelson book, but ignore his take on the Beach Boys because he's miles off.

I' ve only read portions of the Rick Nelson book and am just a middling Nelson fan, but I know that a lot of his fans were not happy with Selvin's slightly tabloid approach to Nelson's life, including implying that his twin sons had an incestuous relationship.  As a resident of the Bay Area and years-long reader of the SF Chronicle, I have to say that Selvin has always seemed slightly out of touch.  He became a rock writer after dropping out of high school and writing about the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival.  He's always seemed stuck in that time and oriented towards the hippie Bay Area rock bands from that era.  His writing about Dennis and the Beach Boys may reflect the attitude of Northern Californians of that era.