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It's now 2wks after the recent article from Capitol on 25th April stating that more tour dates are to be announced for Europe and further afield, apart from a couple that was announced to be in Spain that's all we've heard, when oh when are we going to hear something?
  It's murder reading on here how good the boys are sounding and how great the concerts are without having to suffer the possibility of them not coming over to the UK.
  Has anyone got news on further dates, and if as said by some on here that the boys read this board, come on guys put us out of our misery please!

No, nothing

It said more tour dates would be announced for Europe.

More were. (The Spanish shows.)

I wouldn't expect anything else at this point.

I appreciate that they announced the Spanish shows, it actually said more European territories would be announced so I was hoping the UK would be one of them. Also I'm sure the fans in Australia, Hong Kong and Singapore are as eager as we are to hear something as they were mentioned too.

UK tour dates?


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i don't see any reason to think it'd happen. They said there'd be more European dates, and then they announced Spain. There's only a six-day space after the European dates, for them to fit in Australia and Hong Kong. Given that we've got no reason to think they'll announce any, my advice is to try to get to one of the continental shows.

Thanks for the ridicule of other fans who just want to see the boys celebrate their 50th anniversary, I hope the Beach Boys don't feel the same way as you! As I said they quoted European territories, plural! Really wanted to see them in the UK and hoped they would come and see their many fans here.

Singapore, August 22nd.

I imagine they might extend the tour to September and do a few shows in the UK/Ireland

That said, A UK tour might not happen at all

Bruce has said that they have to finish the tour by mid-August, on several occasions (though he's never said why).
Given that, I'd say it's an absolute certainty there won't be a UK tour. The only question is whether there'll be one UK show or no UK shows, and I strongly suspect it's the latter.

I still don't get his comment along the lines of 'they have locked us out' over a C50 UK tour. What was that about? The Olympics were announced 6 years and several BB lawsuits ago!

If it is to be no UK dates then it's a sad day for us all over here and a snub to a lot of there most ardent fans, let's hope it changes.
   Personally I can't see why the Olympics and Queens Jubilee would have much impact on them finding dates over here surely there are plenty of venues and promoters only to willing to put them on?

REALLY!!   I'm in Fremantle West Australia so that is a 3 hour (very cheap) flight away!!   I'm there .

I wouldn't consider it any kind of snub, just that they haven't been able to arrange anything. Given the well-known Anglophilia of some of the band, I'd assume it's not for want of trying.
The Olympics and Jubilee don't stop them playing the UK in themselves, of course, but they do make it more difficult in that many otherwise suitable venues will be in use and they will make it utterly impossible for the band to play London -- and while as a Northerner I hate the way London dominates the UK, it *is* the obvious place to play.

There's also the tax stuff AGD has alluded to, as well -- if they can't make enough money to make it worth their while here, they'll not do it.

And finally there's the type of venue they're playing on this tour -- they're playing stadia, at least in Europe. Other than gigs where they're not the sole attraction (the Epsom show last year where there was horse racing, the tour with Status Quo), neither Mike & Bruce's band nor Brian have been able to fill venues much larger than a largeish theatre in the UK. Without a big publicity push to let everyone know that this is different to either of those shows (and even possibly then) I don't see them doing much better in terms of venues. If the tour bookers want to get them in places like the MEN Arena, but the only places interested in booking them are the size of the Manchester Apollo, then it's not going to happen.

The thing that annoys me about this is the lack of information. If they just came out and said "unfortunately we won't be playing any UK/IRE shows" then we could make the decision to buy tickets for other EUR shows or not. But by keeping us waiting, we have no idea whether to fork out for another show or run the risk of paying for two plus flights and hotels. Just say "yes" or "no" and we can do what we want.

Personally I think it's a great shame and I have never seen the BBs in their entirety before. Looks like I never will......

Looking on the bright side, it may well be that they're not saying anything because they're still desperately trying to arrange something. And yes, it is a great shame. I'm very lucky in that I *can* afford to go to two foreign shows, through a combination of financial circumstances that have never happened to me before, and I'm aware of just how incredibly fortunate I am that this tour is happening now -- six months ago I couldn't have even considered it. The vast majority of people can't, and I wish there was some way of fixing that. But I'm not going to assume that a decision not to play the British isles is intended as any kind of slight to us.

I guess that's what I was trying to put over in my original post, it would be nice to know just one way or the other.
Looking at the schedule of the concerts there is a gap between 15 to 21 July unless that's for the guys to rest before coming over to Europe after the US concerts. There is also another gap between 7 to 16 August when they leave Europe to go to Japan.
Let's just hope we might get something added in there but like you say just let us know, PLEASE.
        It would also be interesting to know why as posted on here by someone that Bruce Johnston said that they have to have these concerts over by mid August?

I could have sworn the gap before the European shows was much shorter. Have some of the gigs been cancelled?

  I don't think so I took the dates from the official website so I guess unless they have added more and haven't put them up that is the time frame at the moment.

Why? Australia tour has been announced with dates to follow soon. Perth could be on the cards.

http://abcdigmusic.net.au/news/beach-boys-heading-to-oz

Thanks for that,  never seen it.  Will wait and see what happens.

I’m not sure that article constitutes a tour announcement being based solely on the Capitol Records press release of some 3 weeks ago.

Doubting Capitol Kiwi surfer?

Are you related to a certain P Cohen by any chance? ;D

Keep in mind they will be in Japan, Singapore (Hong Kong TBA?). Sure makes $ense to go a few extra hours south to Australia. The dollar is worth more than the $US at the moment. Why wouldn't they want a slice of that action?

Not according to the exchange rates I'm seeing. They're essentially at parity, with the US dollar just very slightly stronger.

But that's neither here nor there, because on the QVC special they just played, Mike specifically mentioned Australia when he rattled off a bunch of countries that they're going to play in.

Exactly. I was about to post this.  So it seems they will be heading to Australia, I mean, Mike would know.

On QVC Mike made a comment about how well the the new single TWGMTR is charting in England. Did anyone hear that? He didn't have to mention that.

I think U.K. dates will be added. How about a second leg of the tour? I don't think the BBs will forget you guys. Too much history with all the support given in the late 1960's and beyond.

And how well is it doing?

Yeah, I looked up the UK charts and while it seems to be getting some radio play I couldn't find it on the charts.

Mike's a seasoned hype man, he's just using psychology; if he makes you believe that everyone else is buying the song, then you'll be more likely to buy it so as to not feel left out.  :lol

I'm not doubting for a moment that they will hit Aussie and perhaps Kiwi shores late August.  My point was that a media report based on a press release is not definitive.

TWGMTR the single was number 2 for a while on Amazon UK's download list for rock. But it's not featured at all in the official UK top 100. I'd have bought it if they'd released a 45 or even a CD single. I'm simply not going to pay for an MP3.

I think the big problem with the UK is that we've got the ruddy Olympics in the summer and that means London is a no-go area for non-Olympic tourists (it's going to be gridlocked).

I hope they don't skip Perth Western Australia! I'd even take a performance akin to the one they gave when they were here 34 years ago!!! (Maybe even "take enthusiastically", Brian was definitely more... active and they were playing cuts off Love You!)

He said it was getting "A rotation", not that it was charting, as I recall. And it probably *is* getting heavy rotation on Radio 2 (the most popular radio station, but with a demographic who, if they buy music at all, only buy albums and never as MP3s).

The British charts go only off sales, while in the US radio play counts towards the charts as well, so it's unsurprising the single didn't chart over here.

It was Radio 2's "record of the week" last week. I didn't hear it but I don't listen to that much radio....maybe 25 minutes a day in the car. However, the car radio is usually locked into Radio 2 as it's the only thing the Mrs and I can agree is listenable! I bet Ken Bruce played it.

I think it might have charted had there been a physical release and some publicity. But with (as yet) no UK tour dates there's little point in putting money into the single here.

I think a "proper" promo video would/'ve contribute/d to pushing the song a bit further- the lyric vid doesn't quite cut it; a missed opportunity - in my old honest opinion

Good point. Even a video montage of them singing it I a studio--like that "sizzle reel"--would be better than that lyric video.

My boss was talking about that concert yesterday, she was there and she said they all seemed out of it and Dennis fell of the drums :)  She said, the  music itself was great but they were getting the lyrics wrong and missing words.  She thought it was pretty amusing and had a great time.

You know what happens to Brian when he straps on his bass in the land down under... :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1EPXBQV3yM

If not for the popularity in the UK from 1966-1974 the band would've disbanded. That I am certain of. There would not have been enough sales to keep them in the business. At least they wouldn't continued using the Beach Boys name.

Indeed. Overheard some of the band members talking about this and it appears attempts were made but it would have been a logistical nightmare. Rooms and venues were book years before this tour was ever imagined. Security concerns were also mentioned, in that the group would be required to obtain their own security services that would have to be cleared by the UK.

I completely agree.  I would've made plans to get tickets abroad if I knew from the start that they weren't coming to the UK.  It's too late now though as all the decent tickets will be gone, and in any case they still haven't said they're not coming to the UK, they've just said nothing!
I don't actually think they will be coming now, I was hanging on to hope that they would be but it's looking extremely doubtful .  I am feeling very disappointed to say the least, it doesn't seem like the UK fans will be rewarded for all the support we've given over the years.
All that said, I still love the boys and the music!

This is soooooo frustrating, as said above it's the not knowing that is frustrating.

I am keeping September free at the moment in case they add extra dates (would the Olympics be finished by then?) but it would be great if they announced one way or the other.

At the very least if someone could say that they are in negotiations/wanting to come over but hey ho.

It just seems such a glaring omission in a world tour :(

The Italian shows are arena shows without any reserved seating, and I believe there are still tickets for them.

Boo hoo hoo

Maybe they're not saying a flat "no" because they're bustin' their buns trying to turn it into a "yes". Maybe in this instance, no news is good news. Unless you subscribe to the Cohen Of Silence.

Quite.
I'm 99% sure we won't be seeing them in the UK, but I'd be very, very surprised if they weren't trying to book at least a handful of dates up to the very last possible moment.

I'm sorry?

I can imagine this is what's happening, fingers crossed they get something sorted!

So is Brenda Lee

What are you talking about and why are you being antagonistic?

People are peeved that The beach Boys may not tour in the UK and you post 'Boo hoo hoo'.....

Nice one.

They're not touring lots of places, so not doing the UK isn't that big a deal.
get used to it

Why cant the UK fans just relax. If UK dates are announced great. If not, constantly talking about it and posting in every thread is not going to have any influence on the band and where they decide to tour. America's Band...The Beach Boys!!! (I'm just kidding) but it's just so annoying.

We could ride the surf together............

It actually might..

This forum has a little bit of influence

I believe Mike keeps saying how well the single is doing in England so there is NO WAY they WON"T play in Britain in the future 8).

Don't take it personally… suspect Bgas has just failed his Counselling exams

Crikey, I get they may not tour here, just a bit surprised why someone would be such a tool to another forum member about it.

However......


Cheers John, thanks for redressing the 'normal people' balance :)

What's a Counselling exam?